Old VS New Schrade 858 Lumberjack Stockman Knife

[@BigRedEDC]

Very cool comparison of old and new KD! Thanks for sharing!!

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks partner!

[@WilliamsKnifeLife]

You did a great job bringing back the brown look on the covers. That show side was really bleached out before. Nice comparison between the two. With all those Stockman knives, now you need some livestock. 🐎🐂🐏🐖

[@KnifeDetector]

Ha, Ha, maybe I can practice on cats :)

[@felinebline7154]

@@KnifeDetector lots of cat lovers here

[@davidkurle5418]

It was neat to see the two of these side by side. This stockman series is a joy to watch! Cheers, buddy.

[@KnifeDetector]

Thank you!

[@johndagostino2451]

Knife detector looks like both of them are stockman knives very well done comparing the two 👍🇬🇧🐾🦊🇮🇹

[@KnifeDetector]

Thank you!!

[@ianrankin1293]

I like the old guy,he has a lot of character to him!

[@KnifeDetector]

I think so too!

[@_Mi-Mo_]

Great job pointing out the positives and negatives between each model. Have a great weekend buddy!👋

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks amigo! You too!

[@dwangreen3651]

Enjoyed with my 1970’s 858 in hand. Just something about three time proven blades on your belt. Great video.

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks buddy, I do that too sometimes when my friends make videos on knives I already own, I pull that knife out, it’s like I’m checking out the knife along side them :)

[@Rancherinaz]

The Old Timer USA line actually were 1095 carbon steel bladed with the exception of the lockbacks like the 6ot and the 7ot . Even some of those were carbon steel but most you'll see with the Schrade+ tang stamp designating stainless which was most likely a 440a or 420hc . Those 858ot knives are a bit hard to track down . Somewhat rare as I don't think they made that model for any more than about 3 years . Great stockman though . It's the largest stockman Schrade ever produced and that frame only showed up in the Old Timer line . No open stock Schrade or Uncle Henry ever had a stockman that large . Great find for 25 bucks on a hard to find model . 👍👍

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks buddy, I had been hoping to find one those in the wild :)

[@jeremyspaulding7735]

Love the comparison. So cool to see the similarly and difference in them. Great video 👍

[@KnifeDetector]

Thank you!

[@RJsKnives]

The difference is interesting in both knives. I think you can’t go wrong with either. It’s funny, I have another stockman on the way in the mail also! Great minds think alike!

[@KnifeDetector]

I really like this pattern :)

[@daninmi1648]

The Stockman is my favorite pattern to carry. An 858OT is too big for me (for legal reasons), but I've had an American-made 34OT in my pocket for a while now. The American Old Timers are also favorites of mine, whatever pattern they happen to be. Thanks for a great video!

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks partner, I love Old Timer knives!

[@mynamesjustbill1583]

The color difference (sun fade?) front to back on the old one is pretty cool. Certainly makes it a unique piece. Thanks for the comparison.

[@KnifeDetector]

Thank you!

[@mikecurtis2585]

Nice looking knives. I like the older one. Thanks 😊🙏

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks me too :)

[@tonyrome655]

Nice comparison. When it comes to stockmans, I really prefer the ones with the more squared off bolsters vs the rounded. In any case they are just a great edc knife.

[@KnifeDetector]

Yes they are! Thanks!

[@fossilimprint2954]

Top notch comparison, thank you.

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks amigo!

[@JamesKing-kk8qs]

Have an older one and really enjoy it. Just discovered your site and really like it. Will let my brother know about it. He is an enthusiast as well. JD King

[@KnifeDetector]

Welcome aboard! Thanks for spreading the word👍

[@johnelder4273]

Thanks for the comparison. I have a few old USA made Schrade and Uncle Henry knives and a couple of the newer made in China Schrade knives. The older knives are better made, period. The steel is superior as are the nickel silver bolsters. But, the new Schrade knives are very good quality and are better built than any of the other China manufactured knives like Rough Rider, Marbles, etc... Buck seems to be getting their act together now on their USA made traditional knives. It is nice to have USA made options that are more affordable and sturdier than the Case and GEC knives which are so pricey and highly polished you hate to use them and spoil their looks.

[@KnifeDetector]

True on all counts buddy! Vintage is better, but some modern knives are pretty good too :)

[@NorthStarKnifeReviews]

Nice comparison. Thanks.

[@KnifeDetector]

Thank you!

[@puzzlering1]

Hi KD, thank you for a very comprehensive comparison video, very well explained and presented. I have an old timer Stockman, it is similar to yours only smaller and the bolsters are a different shape; squared off, it is stamped Schrade USA 340T, I have had it a long time and to be honest I can’t remember exactly when, so thanks for clearing up the date stamp query. Thank you again Take care Sam

[@Rancherinaz]

@sam milligan The Old Timer 34ot was Schrades all time best selling knife . They produced it longer consecutively than any other knife and sold more of them than any other knife they produced .

[@puzzlering1]

@@Rancherinaz Thank you very much, for that. Cheers👍

[@KnifeDetector]

Yup, the 34OT is a great size that is appealing to a lot of people. I gave one as well, and I use it when I want to be discreet :)

[@raulob72]

thanks for sharing these videos!!

[@raulob72]

Just got me one 880 USA made , because of your videos , cool knife and great example of Americana”

[@jgbullen]

Funny, I don't have an 858, but there are so many I could look at mine all afternoon. Save your Bucks.

[@wderoker]

Great review as usual. I really enjoy your reviews. I have many USA Old Timers. I would love to see you do a steel comparison test on these knives. Would the carbon steel out cut the Chinese stainless? Thanks again and keep up the great work!

[@MesserHQ]

Hey bud, great comparison 👍. I personally prefer the US made Old Timers , but I've had a couple of the newer production and they are also decent enough knives.

[@KnifeDetector]

I feel the same way amigo!!

[@rustyknifelover4463]

I like both.

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks buddy, me too!

[@paddyspotatopeelers2154]

Great job on the old one,looks rejuvenated.im going for the old for no other reason than its entitled to retirement with someone you.great show.atb paddy 👍

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks Paddy, now I plan to use the new one until it looks like the old one :)

[@baxtrom]

Nice video! Need to get myself one or two Schrade traditional folders, guess they come in around the same price range as rough rider.

[@KnifeDetector]

Yes, most of the time they do :)

[@gizmocarr3093]

Have to say the old USA model is my choice. It lasted the test of time.🧐👏✨

[@KnifeDetector]

Yes it did , and it’s my favorite too :)

[@philipstephan5451]

Plus the thicker bolsters add a little bit of weight also on the vintage knife.😊

[@KnifeDetector]

Absolutely👍

[@timberwolf3417]

Nice looking Old Timer Lumberjack stockmans I got the one in genuine bone and it's the same with the uncle henry LB5 Lockback Knives I have two made in the USA two in China the American made ones are slightly longer than the China. Made 😊👍

[@KnifeDetector]

Thanks for that info partner!!

[@timberwolf3417]

You're welcome! 👍

[@jimmyj4811]

Funny thing, the Stockman pattern is one of my least favorites, but I have 27 of them at last count.

[@KnifeDetector]

Lol!! Yeah, I noticed the same thing a while back, and then as I started to use them more (since I had so many of them) I really started to like them.

[@devatwell334]

The new one is damn good looking knife for a Chinese knife. Only difference is those thicknesses and the USA tang stamp

[@KnifeDetector]

Yup!!! I like them both!!

[@johnshropshire3399]

👍👍👏

[@michaelbeams9553]

Miss that U.S.A. tang stamp .

[@KnifeDetector]

Yup!

[@cs1992]

I refuse to buy CCP knives

[@garydhartley]

I honestly don't even know how one can compare any vintage Schrade knife made in the U.S.A. ( or any other U.S. knife brand for that matter ) to the inferior and undesirable products being manufactured from recycled materials by child slave labor and imported into our country from COMMUNIST China. The half ounce weight difference should tell you something is lacking in the lighter knife. What is it you might ask? The answer is simple, It's Quality. You can find 40 50 even 60 year old Old Timer knives online every day. Good luck keeping your inferior COMMUNIST Chinese imports for decades unless,of course you vacuum seal them and store them in air tight containers. I'll take a preowned, even a half used up AMERICAN made Old Timer over the new garbage made today every time. Just one mans opinion. your mileage may vary