Old vs New Tesla Model 3 Highway Range Test! Huge Improvement For Refresh - Long Range AWD

[@BrianK04]

I watched it all anyway but props for putting results up front.

[@keitha.1888]

Absolutely. Every KZbin always says, watch Till The End so annoying.

[@SAgnish]

this! it honestly made me subscribe

[@gameover-uh9fz]

@@SAgnish Good idea! Now i'm subscribed too, and also wrote a comment just in case... :)

[@iambenmitchell]

I love these “drive until shuts off” videos, love them from Bjorn and love them from you guys, always interesting to see what different EVs do when the guessometer hits zero

[@KyleConner]

I agree! Every car behaves differently so it’s great to see what happens

[@vlad2838]

“Like that shit?” 😜

[@chiss4181]

You should swap the tires between the cars and see how much the new tires affect the range.

[@KyleConner]

I’m sure much of the gain comes from wheel / tire! I’d love to swap the new wheel / tire package on the old car to see the improvement. Maybe 40% can be attributed to that?

[@joel89039]

It would be wild to gain 25 miles of range with wheels and tires! Plus the new ones look better imo ​@@KyleConner

[@gregdavis3723]

Also, how much of the difference would be in the tires versus the wheels. I'd be surprised if there's much difference in the wheels, but it would be interesting to know for sure.

[@J.B.Cyprus]

​@@KyleConner This would be a great test! Please do it. Tesla recommends upgrading to the new Hankook Ventus S1 AS or Michelin Primacy A/S when replacing all four wheels. (Service manual estimates a 10 and 20 mile range improvement respectively.)

[@jeremyrom]

Im pretty sure Tesla transitioned to Harpin motors in late 2021 to 2022. Those motors are more efficient than the previous winding tech.

[@ABrider-f1c]

Man I love this channel. No non-sense, no BS. Just keep going guys! You rock

[@xfuture3762]

You should range test the Long Range rwd!

[@teggy95se]

And the new performance lol

[@albieYT]

@@teggy95se The performance has the same battery so all they need is the same aero wheels and tires and you get the exact same range

[@jambez]

I don't think there would be much, if any difference at all between LRAWD and LRRWD. A german channel tested this with the MY, the difference on highways was 0. It'll likely be more efficient in city driving

[@zmarko]

You KNOW what has to be done next, Kyle. You gotta put the Highland wheel/tire setup on the '21 LR and repeat the test and see just how much difference there is.

[@777Outrigger]

Tires make account for 3-5% of the range increase and maybe new aerodynamics another 3-5%, but this was a 21% range increase. Tesla's done something else, or so it seems. But I agree it would be interesting to swap the tires.

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@777Outrigger Cd on old car is .225 versus .219 on the new car. Difference is 2.7%, not 3-5%.

[@777Outrigger]

@@KP-xi4bj I was being generous since I didn't know the exact number. That means more of the incredible range increase in the new MY is unexplained.

[@KP-xi4bj]

@@777Outrigger There was a MY in this video??

[@777Outrigger]

@@KP-xi4bj Sorry I was in a hurry when I posted. I own 2 MYs so my brain defaulted in my rush. 😂

[@Alpiner251]

Just took my 2018 Model 3 RWD on a 2000 mile road trip from Minneapolis to Bozeman and back. It did great but this comparison is really tempting me to make the switch. 114k miles on my model 3 now.

[@noyoutube22]

The new 3 is so sweet and not too expensive to upgrade.

[@Alpiner251]

@@noyoutube22 Agreed! The problem is I can't justify it as my 3 has had only 1-2 issues and it was all before 50k miles. It's a great vehicle and I easily get 5 miles/kwh on my daily commutes during the summer. It's also paid off haha!

[@noyoutube22]

@@Alpiner251 yeah I hear you. I’ve got an older Model X and until it breaks or gets totaled, it will be hard to part with. It’s also paid off and. Maybe if Tesla does an end of year promotion.

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

@@Alpiner251 Same boat. My 2019 AWD is doing a great job. My leather steering wheel feels fine, I don't need any star wars noise when I'm driving slowly and having a pair of frunk hooks, has always been better than not having a pair of frunk hooks. There is also no FSD transfer in Europe 😡

[@daedricmode6427]

​@Alpiner251 if I were you just hold onto it until the wheels fall off :) there will always be a better model 3, who knows what technology will break thru a few years from now than the current best one of 2024 if it's paid off even better congrats! 🎉 your still saving money with "old" model 3 compared to conventional cars just my opinion stay safe out there!

[@merlin2627]

The Mrs looked thrilled to be part of this test! Loved the vid!

[@egs2169]

Are they married?

[@RagnarinVa]

Great video. My first EV was a 2024 Model 3 LR "Highland" -- As a new EV owner, I have been tracking efficiency -- After 1500 miles I have averaged 211Whrs per mile. The efficiency on this car has been amazing I charge it every 9-10 days (from 25%-65%) using it as my day to day car. I have been very happy with the car and its energy efficiency.

[@Duder0n]

My efficiency on a 2019 Model 3 LR AWD after 60k miles is 230Wh/mi. That's with fairly efficient driving. Looks like the Highland is at least about 10% more efficient than the first Model 3s.

[@Andrew-ft8lk]

Same car, I'm getting around 200 Wh/Mi. A lot of my driving is in the 40-60 MPH range, but I was shocked at how efficient it is!

[@777Outrigger]

Best channel for range tests. No one else is close. Kyle and Jordan are entertaining, articulate, and present an excellent amount of information.

[@fakamada]

Bjorn Nyland is miles ahead, sorry to inform you.

[@777Outrigger]

@@fakamada Whatever you say. Not as good in my opinion, but not that bad.

[@fakamada]

@@777Outrigger I don't think it is about opinions. It is about the depth in reviews and the coverage of the features that manufacturers put in their products. Preference plays a tiny role here.

[@777Outrigger]

@@fakamada A lot of minutiae soon forgotten. I retain almost all of the excellent information of Out of Spec videos.

[@NextGenEvs]

Can’t wait for the Model Y refresh!! Similar efficiency improvements would be fantastic!!

[@cccp9703]

Maybe you could do a quick test with the old Model 3, but swap the wheels from the new one? Would be amazing to see what difference the tires really make.

[@777Outrigger]

Dang! 370 miles. And without piling on a BIG battery pack. God job Tesla!

[@NextGenEvs]

Just imagine if they gave us a big battery pack too!!

[@EngineersFear]

Yeah but that would be brute force not high tech 🤔

[@noseonscent1935]

@@EngineersFear I think he is implying one could get to 500 miles range with larger pack. However both semi-solid and solid state are here now technically and they are both major technological breakthroughs that should in theory allow for 600 mile ranges with large packs and up to 1000 miles for super packs like commercial vehicles (Tesla Semi, RVs, etc.) Exciting times. 370 on a mid size pack with slightly older tech is simply stunning.

[@marklefler4007]

I think the better comparison is how many watt-hours per mile, since it removes the effects of battery degredation.

[@gregdavis3723]

At 4:58, I Kyle misspoke when he said 19" wheels. The new Model 3 aero wheels, called Photon, are still 18".

[@idk-vp5iw]

no they re 19

[@idk-vp5iw]

only in canada tho

[@gregdavis3723]

At one point in the video, you can even read the size on the tire sidewall, and they are 18". Also, I just checked Tesla's Canadian website, and the website shows that the Model 3 Long Range AWD comes standard with 18" Photon wheels. The 19" wheels don't have aero covers and look very different.

[@marius883]

Amazing efficiency! Would love to see this test done on the 2024 RWD LFP as well!

[@4literv6]

They did already it got over 260+miles hwy at 70mph. Its rated for 258 miles hwy only. 👍🏻😎

[@Kgknipp]

something delightfully ominous about Kyle talking to us with the yellow light flash illuminating his face at the end

[@NextGenEvs]

Props to Tesla. Be set vehicles on Earth!

[@Bb-br3xg]

the new model 3 is an amazing vehicle. beyond happy with our purchase and have gotten friends to buy one too

[@iamnid]

Correction for 5:00 -- those are 18" wheels. The model Y comes with 19" in base spec, the model 3 comes with 18". You can actually see the R18 if you look closely at 5:05

[@loriallen67]

Great video Jordan! Nice editing. Fun to see the banter between the two of you. Good play back and forth. Really kept the pace going nicely. 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Valencia_Media]

Now I'm thinking of going with the long range. Thanks!

[@robertlmoon]

I've been looking forward to this test!

[@robertlmoon]

Now I'm really excited and curious how much range I can get out of my new M3 LR RWD. I've got a touch over 550 miles on it (delivered with 4 miles) and with mostly city and brief highway hops (and 70 mile drive from the delivery center to home) it's showing 202 Wh/mi (4.95 mi/kWh). I have the Panasonic battery and Michelin Primacy tires on 18" Photon wheels.

[@OutofSpecDetailing]

Jordan needs a Highland Performance. 😎

[@elborro444]

Wow I love that y’all were willing to share the results up front. I’m still gonna watch the rest of the vidya because y’all always make great and entertaining content

[@JakeRichardsong]

Huge range, very impressive.

[@raulsuazo5015]

I own a model 3 2020 awd. And the new Highland awd . Same wheels. So far all i notice is that the new one the battery drain slower driving the same distance. Havent gone long distance in the new one. Thanks for this video

[@slickjolly]

Maybe you guys can do a quick video on what Scan My Teslas is and how it works?

[@nettlesoup]

Bjørn Nyland did exactly this a couple of years back, so I think they'd just refer you to his excellent video. Should be quite easy to search for here on YT.

[@LearningFast]

4:55 Kyle says the Highland Model 3 LR has 19" wheels. However, you can clearly see that these are 18" wheels and tires in the video. 19" wheels would not have efficient tires and wouldn't come anywhere close to the same range.

[@rvboondocker2559]

I am thinking that the hardware has quite a bit to do with efficiency as well. Thanks for taking a day to do this! Even though it’s just a sample size of one, it’s great to see.

[@LearningFast]

It would be cool to see if the old car would have the same range if it had the ultra efficient Hankook iON EVO AS tires. I did 315 miles and had 8% SOC left with my 2024 Model 3 Performance with 235/45/18 Hankook iON EVO AS tires.

[@jim_7234]

I'd like to see this with a M3P but using the same tires/wheels as the LR used in this test. It would be an apples to apples comparison between the range of the P and LR.

[@JustDoinFlorida]

Still hoping for the Long Range RWD range test soon. Can’t imagine it’ll be a huge difference, maybe 20ish miles more is my guess

[@ProXcaliber]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see it go a bit over 400 miles, seeing as it is much less weight without that extra motor and the obvious lack of the additional power draw.

[@deaconstjohn8643]

Watched the whole thing, love seeing how far they can go..

[@JesseCarpenter1979]

I like the "recap" before the video. Still watched the video as well.

[@adamchoi8136]

Nice and Jordan should totally get a new model 3! Push it to over 400!

[@tesla-spectre]

I have now 72000km on my 2021 Model 3 LR with the 78.8kWh LG. Average consumption 158Wh/km overall. And that includes about 60-65% highway travelling in Europe with aimed-for average speed 110-130kmh on highways. Insanely efficient car!

[@Fanaleds-software]

So what do you get for range on average? I'm thinking to buy an EV next year. Tesla 3's are coming out of lease and are getting cheaper.

[@tesla-spectre]

@@Fanaleds-software at 110kmh (your 70mi/h) with now about 8% degradation (I am at roughly 72.5kWh gross and about 70 kWh net) I can do 450km (287mi) without going into the buffer. on long trips, I usually do a first stint of around 400km (250mi) and then around 350km (215-220mi) on the next.

[@Fanaleds-software]

@@tesla-spectre Thanks! I'm also using km's so that sounds good. I'm looking around to see if that would be a fit for us as a main car. We don't ride much (mostly small bits) but we also go on vacation every year, with around 5-6000km every time to.

[@tesla-spectre]

@@Fanaleds-software then i think the better choice for you is the Model 3 SR ... totally enough for every day and works well wnough for long distance

[@Fanaleds-software]

@@tesla-spectre isn't the LR a safer choice? We are also thinking about pulling a small trailer. And certainly are using a bike rack on the rear.

[@sydneyg007]

That was very impressive. Please buy a long range rwd and do the same test for the sake of humanity Jordan!

[@desmoheli]

You know you have to test the old M3 now with the Hankook tyres ;)

[@brk1705]

I really like these videos!! Always appreciate these test!!

[@ryanevans2655]

Was going to get a used one, but just placed an order for a new LR RWD based on this video. I roadtrip to & across West Texas and western Oklahoma frequently, so I knew I’d be kicking myself for not getting this nearly 100 miles of extra range (for the LR RWD). First new car I’ve ever bought, truck I took to college years ago has a quarter million miles on it, so it’s time!

[@johanalcantara8263]

I have a 2023 model 3 lfp rwd and i got 315 mile of one charge 173 wh/mile. I a have picture and a video. I work as a taxi driver (Lyft) in New York and is a mix 0f highway and city driving so i think that very good.

[@leocheung2547]

Pretty interesting to see that the '24 reverted back to the "old" software v11 parked vehicle model (characterized by the higher camera perspective and narrow width) as it died at 1:03:06 and 1:03:27 , but when Kyle plugged it in at 1:04:15 , the v12 vehicle model (lower camera angle, vehicle color halo, spanning the whole width of the display) popped back on along with the ambient lighting. Tesla goes pretty far to conserve energy at absolute 0%, including shutting off more GPU intensive renders in favor of older ones.

[@ericgregori]

Your wife is hilarious! The looks she gives you are similar to looks my wife gives me when I bring her on my shenanigans.

[@egs2169]

Are they married?

[@Under9Kadventures]

That’s how you do a test. Every data point is consistent down to the white interior and white exterior.

[@PsyTechnical]

Thank you kindly for letting us know the range at the beginning! Great stuff ya'll!!

[@michalfaraday8135]

Many thanks for the comparrison. I hope you also try the long range RWD version of Highland, should do slightly better than the AWD.

[@SAgnish]

Got my 2024 LR AWD Highland recently with Nova wheels/ Continental all season tires, it gets me around at least 30-35 miles less range based on your tests but I also have only drove it from 100% - 2% (not until dead) twice on a few longer trips the PNW without supercharging. Positively surprised with its range performance especially with my driving habits! (spirited)

[@jmkikkawa]

Very thought provoking and I'm sure this video will make a splash. Great job, as always.

[@hal3137]

Just WOW brilliant engineering.

[@jessesea77]

When I watch I commit, especially if it’s 1 hour plus. (Even if it takes me a whole day haha)

[@chriscox7579]

You know your next assignment right? Do this test with a 2024 Long Range RWD Model 3.

[@rockerdan]

Rare to see Kyle get any info wrong but this was a rather important part of this test. The wheels on both these cars are the base 18" wheels(not 19" as Kyle stated) that come stock. They both have the stock hubcaps(as we used to call them). My guess is the tires in particular are the biggest reason for the significant range difference in these two M3's. Hankook Ion Evo may even yield higher results. You guys need to swap the wheel/tires setup from the '24 over to the '21 M3 and I bet the results end up much closer. I really enjoyed this test as many others Im sure do too, since the M3 is the king of EVs at this price point IMO.

[@keytoarson]

Both ranges are absolutely amazing. I can barely get 200 even on a perfect day on the highway, on my 19M3LR. I know it's a smaller battery, so def tempted to upgrade!

[@esedman157]

I have a highland 2024 rwd and I did a recent road trip. I was getting 201 wh/mile which is amazing over 228 miles.

[@JRCarReviews]

Hi, I have the same 2021 LR Panasonic bat. You need to put on new tires and rerun the test. I replaced the OT Michelin Pilot Sport 4 for Hankook iON EV which is a difference in less noise and lower power consumption. Conversely, I am interested in what Tesla did to make Highland more efficient. It can't be just less drag. I feel like they are hiding something as I want the same on mine haha. What you could to is at least swap the wheels and run the test again to see the results! If the new wheels are lighter I would definitely buy them!!!

[@jimbogas6538]

Love your videos ! I plan on my next brand new car being a Tesla thanks to educating me on EVs!

[@jameshetfield5894]

Haha, I say "I just got off the horn with so-and-so" It's not just you Jordan😁

[@CondoreComputing]

Love my 24 LR 3. I was able to eke out 180 wh/m with autopilot set to 65mph flat ground drafting a semi from a safe distance in my last trip. Even going up and down mountain passes with my speed ranging from 70 to 75 I was doing around 235wh/m average on a 380 mile trip. I’m using about 4-6% of the battery for my daily commute so I can keep my SOC at 40-50% for daily driving so looking at minimal battery degradation overtime for my use case. I could have gotten away with even an old leaf for my daily drives but the ability to go in a weekend road trip whenever I want was important to me. My only regret is jumping on the car when only the LG pack was available, that being said the LG pack degradation seems to be marginally slower than the Panasonic packs, and they actually seem to increase in capacity in the first 5k miles or so if you maintain a 50% median SOC.

[@danieltaylor9877]

Stunning Review Gents

[@vinotauro]

I've had this car for two months, averaging 219 wh/M. Very efficient car

[@BitNBoltBreakthroughs]

You get a thumbs up and watch for putting the results at the begining

[@chrisak49]

Tesla really did make a perfect EV sedan with this redesign. All of the weaknesses (interior quality, build quality, road noise, suspension tuning) have been fixed and they increased the range! The closest competitor (Hyundai Ioniq6) can't match this range with AWD nor the tech inside.

[@sprockkets]

Hyundai ioniq 6 has 5kwh less battery capacity for starters and much bigger tires, but cannot match the AWD range. Still, it has a better coefficient of drag, and when they increase the battery to 84kwh, will still have more range than the RWD version. And the N version will outperform the M3P too.

[@gvran71]

What’s years suffered from poor build quality, road noise, etc? Were they corrected by the 2020 model year?

[@chrisak49]

@@gvran71 For Model 3, if you are concerned about build quality and road noise/ride comfort, I would go with the 2024 Highland refreshed models. For the Model Y, they started getting better build quality in 2023 and Tesla put in comfort suspensions on the Model Y starting in 2023. If I was in the market, I would go with those years and newer for both models.

[@sprockkets]

@@chrisak49 The jury is out on that - everyone is basing build quality on the ones built in China. Meanwhile, Tesla can't even make a properly working cybertr**k.

[@noseonscent1935]

@@chrisak49 Please wait for Model Y Juniper if getting a Y. Differences will be monumental. Also not to disparage Hyundai Ioniq 5 N If driven at 70 mph or more I think real world range drops to like 220 miles or so so definitely nowhere near the same real world range as nearly any of the Teslas excepting the short range standard version. It also costs a fair pence more than even a performance Model Y is likely to cost especially if Federal Tax incentives still exist. Don't get me wrong, Model N is super fun if that's your thing but I think these have very different audiences in general. Each to their own. I do think Lucid's new wagon, shooting brake thingy is quite nice and surprisingly affordable if you can purchase between $70 and 80k. Cheers. Its a great time for EVs!

[@Ultravore]

Melissa always looks a little bit annoyed but this time she looked especially annoyed and tired. Is there anything to it or am I making this up?

[@zmarko]

Wow, those CT tires are friggin' MEATY!

[@dyemanoz]

I just got a new M3 SR (China made, 18 inch wheels). Previously had a 2021 model LR (late 2020 build from Freemont) with 19 inch wheels. The Highland is way more efficient relative to the car's rated range - much the same actual range as the old car and even more given you can charge to 100% if needed without worrying about hurting the battery.

[@GridConnections]

Awesome work! Would love to see a range test of a new Performance Model 3 on the 18" wheels since I'd probably swap them out onto the 18s for road tripping. Looking at either getting a Long range AWD Model 3 or a perf. Model 3. If the wheels is the majority of the range hit then I'd definitely go with the perf to have the power day to day, and still be able to road trip.

[@antoniodelgado91]

Hey guys. Love the channel. Could you talk a bit more on the 2 different possible batteries in a new M3 Long Range?

[@eastmanwebb5477]

Thanks for doing this test. The only thing I would change is the new Model 3 should have had the ambient lighting strip turned off during the test since the old Model 3 doesn’t have that feature.

[@GadgetFiend]

Can't wait until I see what range you have for the M3 RWD long range. I just took mine (got a week ago) from Vegas to Orange County CA. Normally 270 miles. Drove most of the way @ 70mph. At destination still had 140 projected miles left. No wind, elevation decreased from 2000' to 0, so that would have helped range a bit.

[@supergeek02468]

Makes me so excited for the refreshed Y. If we extrapolate the same 19.3% range improvement the Y LR should jump from 286 to 341 miles in the real world at 70mph.

[@alexanderkenway]

Insane efficiency

[@AbbenHung]

370 vs 297 miles is a big difference! very impressed with the refreshed model 3 LR :O

[@OOa007]

Thank you for this!

[@JiangBee]

I would really like to see a 0 to 60 and a range test that compares a 2024 Model 3 long range awd with a panasonic battery vs a LG battery.

[@Marco-ce8kr]

I need to know what the 2024 model 3 rwd Long range can do

[@joshuarosen465]

I just did a trip to NYC from MA in my new 2024. I averaged 209Wh/mile. My 2019 averaged 239Wh/mile over it's five year life so it pretty much got its EPA range but there is no doubt the new one is more efficient.

[@8berkes]

Just did NY to MA and back last weekend with a 2024 aero wheel set on my 2022, and averaged 212Wh/mi!

[@Ian_Woods]

Just got back from our last trip, about 6,000 klm, 3 adults and 2 children with boot and frunk filled to brim, Valencia, Spain, France, Uk, Scotland, Wales, France and back to Valencia in my model 3 Highland RWD (now done 20,000klm) going at speed limits ie, france 130kph (81mph) my car showed for the trip 136 wh/km (7.35 km/Kwh) (4.6 M/Kwh) I am super impressed with it.

[@Yormsane]

Wow, what an amazing range improvement with the Highland model! Now we need a range test of the current Model S Long Range, to see if it can even match those numbers, and justify the extra $27,500 cost.

[@JP-sw5ho]

Looking forward to the model y version

[@barryw9473]

Jordan, if Kyle is paying, why the reluctance? GET THE MODEL 3!!!!

[@advandermeer740]

Efficiency is a variable in charging speed. If all things equal, a more efficient car recharges more mi/hr.

[@darinbrazil5496]

Interesting, wonder how much the tires and wheels caused the difference in efficiency. Maybe put the 2024 tires and wheels on the 2021 and check the efficiency. that would be interesting to know, might put those tires on my 2022 model 3 dual long range when it needs new tires.

[@masoudyazdanian6158]

It would be really interesting to switch out the car's tires and run the test again!

[@christophemadeline9753]

Thanks a lot, as usual.

[@jimmyers4890]

Thanks for the great comparison. I don't know if it's a trick or an illusion of the photograph but the old model 3 looks to be a couple inches taller than the refreshed model. Is there a difference?

[@areitu]

The styling changes on the new one probably reduced the "visual height" of how the car looks, with thinner headlights and a more pinched-looking front end. They're both the same size and shape as far as I can tell

[@Ramerez11]

I have a 2023 Model 3 and find I'm almost always the fastest at superchargers and find the road tripping is impressive. However this is incredible and would love it for long trips! Of course charging should be better but this helps offset that so much

[@richardmorin4518]

Wow awesome.. Ya need to test the long range rear drive M3

[@Robin-es3os]

Jordan, get the model 3!

[@Karl-Benny]

it might seem like its windy but it`s not its the wind causing it

[@lakefiftyseven]

Nice with two cars and two drivers and comparing...

[@Swapnil638]

4K video pls thx

[@gidmorson668]

Wow that’s impressive. M3 best car your so right amazing range.

[@Fishingtheotherside]

I have a new LR and I did 192wh for 380 miles and it still showed 26 miles of range left. So maybe 430 miles to true 0?

[@azorglub]

Very impressive

[@KristopherReed]

Damn, I thought you were going to do the Long Range RWD versions.

[@Radium3D]

It just comes down to the new EPA rating system is much better, possibly a little *too good* lol. People will be extremely happy about their winter driving range now with the new rating tests.

[@GameOver556]

We have both the 21 and the 24. Our experience is there is absolute zero difference in range between the two. So the result is a bit strange to me.

[@anton_grahn]

Did you get the LG or the Panasonic pack?

[@pepstein]

18” or 19” wheels?

[@GameOver556]

@@anton_grahn LG

[@GameOver556]

@@pepstein 18” on both. Michelin cross climate 2

[@anton_grahn]

@@GameOver556 That is likely the main reason why, only around 77kWh in the LG pack, 82kWh in the Panasonic

[@snoogmzsnoogmz4435]

I think these cars need a minimum of about 115kw of battery when new. My reasoning is that you would always have access to 85kw real world useable energy well past 100k miles. That way you can pretty much always get 250 miles of range regardless of temperature

[@chapines121]

How would one know which battery the car has, when buying used in the future? LG or Panasonic

[@promagnuman]

Automobiles are one of a family's biggest expenses. Tesla 3 start off at 30k not bad for a low end car. 300 miles is typically all I will drive in a day max. How far will it go in cold climates? What is the insurance cost? Typically these type cars are totaled during an accident because of the way they are built and that has considerably increased everyone's insurance rates. How many miles do you get out of those new tires?