OLD WORLD BIRMINGHAM ALABAMA

[@Von_YT23]

There is absolutely no reason to decorate buildings when establishing a new city with minimal infrastructure and lack of housing available for a booming population. Common sense dictates that all available hands would be constantly building practical structures to keep up with a raising tide of people looking to establish themselves in a new location.

[@oldworldex]

precisely...

[@jimhardy665]

If it had been native Alabamians building up this city from scratch, they wouldn't have done that. This was by the northern mineowners and investors to attract more investors, businesses and basically brag to their northern friends what they'd done from where, during the Civil War, it was basically a patch of small communities. The overkill was not to impress nor even for the vast majority of local Alabamians. Compare these photos to Lower Alabama cities.

[@utubewatcher806]

@@jimhardy665 Exactly! The "hunch" being played on in this video fails because it lacks analysis of the effect of "The Magic City" boom time due to iron and steel industry. Buildings to match the auspicious grandeur of major cities would attract investors and business, and cookie-cutter appearances derive from using common top architects of those times. Birmingham was intended to be the next "Atlanta", or to replace Atlanta.

[@BananaPuddingNow]

@@utubewatcher806 was Atlanta even "Atlanta" at this time?

[@Von_YT23]

Investors don't invest in buildings, they invest in land where profits exist, the quality of the buildings is irrelevant, many beautiful buildings sitting around even today, totally abandoned, when it comes to making profit, things don't change. i agree to disagree

[@roberthouse4228]

I'm from Birmingham Alabama, and I still live here, and I travel down town Birmingham every day, and I've taken many pictures and video of all the building there especially the ones with 1900 on them, I've always questioned how were they built and by who, I've asked this question now over 30 years, and I'm so happy to see that more people are waking up because something isn't quite right at all with what's been told. I have the property owners names of old Birmingham that was given to me by a Birmingham news journalist and I'll look over it tomorrow when I get to my office and look at the dates and names. Manynkf the buildings and churches you posted here are still in use today, even a few castles that I question as to why are they here. Great job!

[@tinathetruthseeker156]

Bama girl here. I'm glad you did this. We've got a lot of this all over the state. When your eyes are open you'll see it everywhere.

[@jackoneill559]

@tinathetruthseeker156 I've lived in Birmingham Alabama for 55 years my eyes were opened up to all of this about 10 years ago... an absolutely fascinating subject indeed.. let's get it...

[@gumpyproductions365]

just absolute gold. i always watch JonLevi every sunday. But this is hands down on par with his videos if not better. The way you present the information and proofs is absolutely flawless. Make sure to back up for videos on a protected external hard drive this is so important...

[@wealthyfuture999]

finally something on alabama 🔥 i search youtube all day for old world alabama videos🤣

[@OldWorldMissouri-wi9it]

Old world springs invites you to watch Tuscumbia al and Huntsville al hope you enjoy mind blowing.

[@noahhm24]

Same here. Always wanted to know more about my city!

[@sino8r499]

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not?

[@steveneighner7543]

@@noahhm24 notice he didn't mention the steel industry and made it sound like Birmingham just appeared from another dimension lol. They couldn't do this or that he kept saying and called things trickery when trying to understand how they could build the buildings or that there were so few people when many of the people who worked in Birmingham lived in outlier communities and cities who came in to work or shop. I was really waiting for him to say space aliens built the city.

[@lindsnmacb]

Bama here too, we live about 40 miles from there, thanks for including us!

[@jamescook2115]

I was born in Bham in 1977 and have traveled a little. Something about the Bham area as apposed to other cities is for some reason "the city of Birmingham" didn't annex the surrounding towns. You have Fultondale, Hoover, Roebuck, Center Point, Homewood, Bessemer and many more surrounding Birmingham. So the "population" of downtown Birmingham probably was small but the population of the area around it was quite vast. Plenty of jobs. Sloss Furnace, US Steel, Acipco, and there were thousands of miners on red mountain. As far as the dates on those buildings.......you got me? I had no idea some of those buildings ever existed. I enjoyed the video and FYI Alabama had one of the biggest marble mines around. Look up Alabama marble. Its very unique and multi colored.

[@htank01]

The marble quarry in Sylacauga is still open

[@coolvisions4999]

I was born in Birmingham in 1977 as well. This is an accurate assessment

[@DarkTerritory71]

For the sake of arguing with your narrative, and as a Birmingham boy, who studies the industrial history. ( i love it! ) i can see Birmingham having those structures. There were 4 -8 different steel producers, coal, iron, and limestone mines everywhere. One couldn't throw a rock without hitting a miner in the head and people who lived in the outskirt cities, that were booming at the time would go to birmingham on the train, stay overninght (sometimes) and catch the train and go back to their town where they had a job working the coke ovens in Brookside or mining the coal just down the tracks in Cardiff, where i live. Nobody traveled by car, i had family members who would go to the train station, ride into Bham, shop all day, catch a movie, and come home late that evening. The small towns around Bham were boom towns also. Birmingham had 2 train stations, one was for the main center of the city, where all of the RRs would come in from Montgomery, to the South, Tuscaloosa to the West, and Gadsden Atlanta and Chattanooga from the East. The North station serviced The L&N and Great Southern RRs where the towns from the north and north west were dropped into Bham. Big money was everywhere. The Bankheads, Peabodys, Carnage, Sloss owners. The Enslys were a big money family. All that money, we had philanthropists were everywhere, the Boutwells were building theaters and art gallories. There was alot of money to be made by the wealthy. Remeber. After the Civil war carpet baggers and money out of the northern states came down to steal and scam everything that could. That was 1865 to 1900 thats not but 45years. Dont take me wrong, i love what youre doing! Theres an industrial history channel thats all about Biirmingham and the surrounding industries on the late 1800s to the mid 1900. "Mr Tropics" and "glosswork films" that guy is incredible and what he shows and talks about on his channel. He goes to the library and get photos nobody has seen in a long time, and gives the story behind them.

[@shivshaktidas108]

Et cet endroit possédait également un grand nombre d'architectes de talents, d'ingénieurs formidables et d'innombrables ouvriers hyper qualifiés formés par de grandes écoles de constructions très réputées qui avaient hérité leur savoir de plusieurs générations ???

[@DarkTerritory71]

@shivshaktidas108 i dont have a translate button. Sorry

[@shivshaktidas108]

@@DarkTerritory71 And this place also had a large number of talented architects, formidable engineers and countless highly skilled workers trained by great and highly reputable construction schools who had inherited their knowledge from several generations??? Have a good and happy day !

[@johnfree2833]

B.s

[@chuckleberryfinn1992]

@shivshaktidas108 and there's no possible way that the poors and blacks survived without the welfare State, either, right.. "Learn to code" eh ? Well, looking back 5 or 6 generations, not everybody has that in their DNa. If 2024 illiteracy is due to it being illegal to teach enslaved persons to read, ( at least according to the Rev. Al Sharpton , among others) because it's an inherited trait , just the same. Realize that what most people did for a living up to that point , was not die. So maybe share cropping wasn't your thing, there was mining and iron furnace jobs. ( which undoubtedly came about from 👽, too? ...given it couldn't have come from "local" knowledge, like, the Indians didn't even have the wheel, so.. ) No doubt, they could have learned to code, () if only their heritage had provided them such an opportunity The _Pittsburgh of the South_ prolly had little, if any, connection to Pittsburgh. And even if it did, the folks of Pittsburgh, the likes of Andrew Carnagie &c. , they wouldn't know anybody who knew anything about engineering, architecture , and such. The most amazing thing is how any mention of this Magical City was scrubbed from every report and accounting of the Civil War, despite it's centuries old existence. Huntsville, Cahawba, Tuscaloosa, and Montgomery were all capitals of Alabama, yet Birmingham was never mentioned as a possibility before the 20th century. Like Leeds and Sheffield, Birmingham was just another random name dimwitted Bammers just came up with. Even ol' New York was once New Amsterdam. ... and making it the New Barbary Coast would be really giving the finger to those evil colonizers , eh ?

[@ourmeltedreality8731]

Of course I couldn’t delay watching this one. I have a small folder of the area I’ve never really showcased. That train station 1909 supposed build then destroyed in the 50’s. At the end, that antenna on top you mentioned, is supposed to be the last one like that in the world left. It’s still there. So much has been destroyed in the Birmingham area (buildings) and are still leveling old world buildings there today. Putting up trash in their place of course. Enjoyed to hear you talk about Birmingham Chris. Great job. Cheers

[@oldworldex]

Figured it was time to do one in your neck of the woods. Would have been better with your accent but oh well...

[@ourmeltedreality8731]

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[@ChrisW-n4y]

Dirigible mooring mast on TJ building.

[@stevethepirate2875]

I'm a brick mason. I've worked in downtown for 23 years doing restoration on a great many of these very buildings. All of them are lime putty mortar. They all show extensive deterioration of that mortar. I worked on that church on the highland. The mortar in the bell tower was the consistency of stale corn bread. The brick pavers are still under the asphalt paving. Look up Quinlan Castle and look up the Swan-Colman House. Spent 2 years at Pizits, and a half year at the Lyric. Beautiful buildings.

[@LH-ot5rk]

Swan House is definitely worth looking into.

[@ChrisW-n4y]

@@stevethepirate2875 mudflood windows too. Continental Gin complex is mud flooded like pepper place

[@sueturner7217]

I'm from BIRMINGHAM and was fascinated with Quinlan Castle since early childhood. I rented an apartment there in 1968...didn't stay a week. Creepy scary place.

[@dumdiversaspapalbull1452]

Some of them probably shouldn’t still be in operation, but we couldn’t afford to replace them in this era. I’m a plumber. I was in the crawl space of one last week thinking about people walking around above me.

[@brickmason7301]

Brick mason all my life in the Birmingham area. My teacher was born around 1915 and worked on many of these buildings. Every time we went through the city, he had a story to tell about the ones he worked on. The detail of these masonry buildings is amazing.

[@onewomanandsomesongs]

I graduated from Woodlawn High School in 1973. Thanks for showing it. Great video.

[@teller1290]

My mom graduated from there in 1950. Mom's high school annual has Bobby Bowden in it and he's shown in photo on the football team. I wish someone would publish photo of the WWII memorial on Woodlawn campus to the grads who died in the war. I recall it totaling 110 guys, though I find that hard to believe now.

[@Bo-whiskey]

💚💛

[@DarkTerritory71]

I know that i have already spoken once. But i got almost through the video. You were mentioning the streetcar thing. My mother was raised mostly in East Thomas out near Republic steel west of Birmingham. She said "we'd catch the streetcar and go to the movies, and go to Birmingham to shop. All of the departments store were multied floored. Me and momma, and when i got older me and my girlfriends would ride into bham together " Now as for the architecture: i have worked out of the Birmingham iron workers local 92, back before modern times the tradesmen were more than skilled at what they were paid to do the iron werker didn't just do high steel structures, but crafts like rought-iron work, mat tying, rigging and statue placement, the brick masons carpenters, boilermakers ect unions were very skilled too. Most of the crafts secrets have been lost to time due to the automation and modernization of all construction. Nobody wants to pay for hand made nothing anymore. Presently, I work at US steel in Fairfield Al, just west of Bham, and they had electrical rooms in the steel mills of all places, that had polished stone walls and floors, with oramental iron swirling out of those smooth stone walls with white globes on the top of them that had US STEEL melted into the glass of the globe, ive seen that myself. That is/was inside the steel mill. The front of those electrical rooms has/had big steps and round columns as on a terrace with a red brick fane and capstones on the top. Why would they spend the money for that in a mill? I think it was 1, the way they duid that at the time, then 2, the materials they chose to use for beautifcation. The place was so big and so busy, they had tunnels under the ground so workers didnt have to walk through the mill to get to their work areas they walked under. The St Vincent hospital is a much bigger hospital today, created/started by the catholic church and funded through family companieslike what was Brunos Groceries. The names of these places, like the hospitals, and these little towns around Bham, being the same, thats the way they done things or named them. For instance. The town of Sayre just west of cardiff and Lynns Crossin going out hyway 78 towards Jasper. It is pronounced SAY-REE if youre from around here. But up north, there were many places with the same name "Sayre" in PA. Or NY they prononced it Sayer, with the R sharp "SayR". The people who settled these places all came from the same places across the pond and named them from the old countrys familiar places. Oh yeah. As for the fountain in Birmingham and the water and plumbing. There is/was a swim clumb in east birmingham called "cascade plunge" it was owned by the Elks lodge, and the water for that big-ass- HUGE swimming pool, was supplied by a natural cold spring in the ground. Of course the city and state stopped them from using the free water and treating it for peoples swimming, the pool had sand in the bottom that came up from the spring. There are all types of natural springs under b'ham. If you go look at the Jefferson Co Courthouse in Bham today, it is absolutely beautiful with its old marble walls and floors. People took pride in what they built back then, and they had to have a true skill/trade to build it. Just an opinion? After the 60s, and all of the upheavels and civil unrest in these cities over civil rights, or the hippie movement, and things like that? I believe we ALL gave up and lost faith in the nation we were actually building when there was room for everyone, all shold have been welcome, "for the people and by the people." We just stopped! And now you look around at all the new construction? It's dead! Like a prison cell! Sure! They light up the bottom of an overpass with multicolored lights, but theyre not light anything unique, just a faceless common bridge in front of the city projects and they all look the same! To me? Thats by design! We basically killed out architecture and beauty ourselves. ( didnt mean to be depressing) love the channel!

[@brianhester6406]

Go back and look for a common thread in all those things you mentioned happening in the 60s. Leaders of those groups, where they began, who started and funded them, you'll find that The 60s were a culmination of years of work behind the scenes. It's funny how the "winners" of the 2nd world war soon found themselves looking very much like conquered lands.

[@nickzobel9922]

Wow, that Birmingham building is just breathtaking. Wow, it's unbelievable how it's designed for the whole block to fill in perfectly around it, building to building.

[@dougmcdougal8226]

As always outstanding work

[@hughjanus1540]

Thanks for including Alabama. Lots of looked over history here.

[@linnhudson4908]

I'm from Birmingham, I for the longest time had not put together the time line. But since waking up I've seen many of these old buildings , recently a castle was torn down. Thanks for the video.

[@alanlewis0829]

The main thing you missed is the booming iron industry. For nearly 100 years, Birmingham was a large producer of iron and iron ore. This was the impetus for the rapid growth during the latter part of the 19th Century. It seemed like a small town by modern standards, however, Birmingham was indeed a boomtown.

[@chuckleberryfinn1992]

I really have my doubts that the Civil War took place without anybody noticing the existence of an Old World city. The tremendous structures on top of the ground came about from what was extracted, in tremendous amounts from underground in. That cannot be overstated. What took place underground Birmingham is no less awesome. What limited industrialization there was in the South was decimated in the war. What greater opportunity is there for investors than post war devastation .? Investors, barons of mining, steel, railroad and timber moved in as the industrial revolution was coming into being. Paying jobs were found where the money was. At that point in history, what a vast majority of the population did for a living was *not die*. Does western Pennsylvania share any "Old World" similarities with the _Pittsburg of the South ,_ Birmingham , AL ? Interestingly, a 'New World' feature they share is found in the national past time, baseball. America's oldest active professional baseball stadium, Rickwood Field, (built 1910) bears quite a resemblance to Pittsburgh's Forbes Field . (along with some features of Philadelphia's Shribe Park, too.) Even ol' New York was once New Amsterdam... "new" places named after "old" places- like Birmingham, Leeds, Sheffield &c., is pretty common. Many the streets in Birmingham original layout were named after major European cities; (Oporto-Madrid Blvd. is one that remains today)

[@brianrichey7269]

Birmingham’s growth from 1880-90 was 700% a lot of cut throat big money in Birmingham at that time. The Elyton Land Company, the Sloss Family, the Ensley Family, the Deberadeleben Family. It was a huge competition to be the biggest and best. Bringing the Cahaba River Pumping Station on line in 1887 was the thing that made Birmingham able to grow. It could move 5 million gallons of water a day! They began building furnaces swiftly at that point. I’m in construction in the Birmingham area. I have helped renovate a lot of the homes and buildings from that era. Really amazing history. Look up some of the mausoleum’s of the family names I mentioned. I love to share the history I have learned from my elders, and studies. Thanks for the video!

[@AlphaFlight]

In Kansas City mo. Their bringing back the street car in the exact same locations of the old world ones. Just find it funny. And in front of my work place in kansas, You can see brick road, and next to it the old rail track starting to show back up

[@determination0072]

Wow…so interesting! Thanks for sharing…I got chills!

[@karencontestabile6064]

They're, not their

[@Presshna]

Gonna enjoy this!!! Thank you for all the hard work! You and LA are the best!

[@jasonlamberth414]

Amazing video. Thank you! In the spirit of open community, here goes…this has to bring up huge questions on the dark narrative we’ve been taught about this place. “I had a dream” Birmingham was a thriving, inclusive, welcoming city back in the old world! Hard to imagine any marches other than happy ones in that magnificent city then!

[@wdgbirmingham2]

Omg!!!! 😳 It's my city!!! I'm so excited (and honored!!) to watch this!!!!! 😃😃😃

[@angelosanti]

I don’t comment often but I want you to know I’ve been appreciating your content for a while. Thank you!

[@oldworldex]

Appreciate the support!

[@Von_YT23]

Angelo you are amazing at what you do brother 🎸

[@wadet73]

East Lake was once a beautiful neighborhood in the hills, block style layout with mostly 20s-40s homes build in craftsman style

[@wdgbirmingham2]

I really enjoyed that. I live here and have never even heard of the Caldwell Hotel (amazed by its grandeur!) or the Morris Ave Hotel with the curved balconies like in Spain. I'm glad you showed the Thomas Jefferson Hotel because that tower on top? That's a Zeppelin mooring station!! It really is!! The train station here that they tore down was apparently palatial. Not a criticism of you by any means, but a simple Google search yields color postcards of this building. It was built in the Byzantine style and had two massive towers. It looked like something VERY old world. The Ridgely Apartments are now known simply as the Tutweiler Hotel. That post office is indeed questionable. What? It's gorgeous, but you're telling me they tore it down when it was only 30 years old? I, too, call bs; that post office was way too nice to simply tear down. The population explosion is because of the steel industry - we got our nickname "The Magic City" because our city (according to the narrative) became a city virtually overnight when they discovered we had limestone, iron ore and coal, the 3 ingredients needed for steel manufacturing. We became known as the Pittsburgh of the South. The photo you showed of the sheds and outhouses? I'll bet money that's at Sloss Furnace. It's actually a pretty sad story - the conditions of working at the furnace were HORRIFIC. Most of their laborors lived on site, and had a grocery store on site. It's like Sloss simply owned your soul, you had to live on site, spend your wages on site, just misery. Two things I wish you'd mentioned, one is Five Points South. It is where five streets converge. It had a drug store and a movie theater, etc at the turn of the century. Was serviced by streetcars. Present day there is a VERY creepy fountain there, Satanic I'd say, where the five streets converge (Pentagram). A man with the head of a ram reads a book. Nothing to see here, folks! It stands before a Spanish style Methodist church and personally I've always thought that creepy fountain with that creepy church behind it looks like the gateway to Hell. The other thing is our statue of Vulcan it was (is) the largest iron statue in the world (woohoo!) it was made for the 1903 World's Fair in Saint Louis to "advertise" Birmingham and our industrial might. He stood at the St Louis Palace of Mines and Metallurgy. Now he stands on a pedastal overlooking Birmingam. It's fun to to ride the elevator up to the observation deck by his feet.

[@nyquil762]

Wow, thank you for your local perspective. It seems that nearly every city's history has been hidden in plain sight.

[@cstover8454]

If they didn't tear it down where is it

[@wdgbirmingham2]

​@@cstover8454No, I didn't mean they didn't tear it down. They definitely did. I meant it was way too nice to tear down, as in what a shame 😔

[@wdgbirmingham2]

​@@nyquil762Thanks for thanking me 🙂 and you're welcome. Of all the buildings in this video the one that sets off the most red flags is the train station. Red flags as in it looked sooooo old world. This palatial, beautiful, enormous Byzantine looking structure looks so out of place for a steel town that popped up supposedly overnight. There is an episode of Westworld where they take a town and bury it under dirt. Delores, the protagonist "Host" (AI) has flashback memories of it. I kind of get that feeling from all these Old World Narrative videos. It's eye opening to live here and to see photos of this palatial train station and palatial hotel I've never heard of. Downright unnerving... 😬

[@cstover8454]

@wdgbirmingham2 cool with some people you never know that's why I had to ask

[@anthonywilliams6947]

Would love to see a segment on Mobile, Alabama

[@P9rkour90]

What about GREENBOW ALABAMA??! Lol

[@dianayoung2107]

I was 3 y o in 1958 when we moved to Birmingham, Ala. We were there until '62. Funny you mention LBJ. I remember the look on my father's face in 1960 when he said ,"he's a snake-in-the-grass." I asked him, "what's a snake-in-the-grass, Daddy?" Also not to be missed is the statue of Vulcan, which we climbed up into the top. Memorable for a small child such as myself. And my mom would take me downtown every Christmas to walk along the storefronts to view the mechanized children in Christmas scenes. A fascinating spectacle.

[@loujones5388]

I had forgotten about the windows at Christmas. I think the displays were mainly at Loveman’s Department Store and Pizitiz. They were always a great treat to go see them as a child. I wish they were still around. I don’t think new buildings have the charm or excellent workmanship of the old.

[@robertharsch8131]

Great Job as Always Chris!! What a Beautiful city. ❤❤❤

[@lindsnmacb]

Can you do Montgomery Alabama?

[@paulchannel8868]

Thank you. 🙏

[@abc1234939]

While it was interesting seeing old photographs of my city's buildings, i don't understand the whole "old world" theory. Alabama is a relatively young state. Its statehood was enshrined only in 1819, though settlement preceded that by a few years as you need to have a population before you can earn statehood. For 2 generations after that, during the antebellum period the planter elite would not allow a major industrial metropolis to develop within their midst. But after the war, when a railroad was being planned to go through the Jones Valley, the Elyton Land Company incorporated and bought 4150 acres for $200,000 split into 2000 shares, so each share was worth $100 in 1871 ($100 dollars in 1871 is worth about $2587 today; so the entire investment is worth $5,174,000 in 2024 dollars, which makes sense because it was undeveloped land). The reason the population exploded and Birmingham became known as the "magic city" is that the Jones Valley where it was built might be the only place on earth where all of the raw materials to make steel and iron exist in a single location and the location of a railroad network around and through the city made it easy to exploit these natural resources. Another thing i dont understand is that is he trying to say that Southerners in the early 20th century when the population of the city in 1900 was 38,415 couldn't have built 10-story buildings? Is that an insult that Southerners are stupid and that only more established cities like New York or Chicago could build tall buildings? He must realize that while the population of the city itself may have only been 38,415 in 1900 there were still people living and working in the city who lived on its outskirts and would not have been counted in the census for Birmingham. Also Birmingham was a major transportation and industrial hub for the entire region, so it makes total sense for their to be large impressive hotels in a city of that caliber. Next to Atlanta, Birmingham was the center of "New South boosterism" which was a phenomenon after the Civil War where wealthy Southerners and Northern investors sought to take advantage of new developments in infrastructure and industry to make money through capitalism and Birmingham could scarely have been a better candidate for it. If not for Birmingham's more fiery racist reputation, then Birmingham might have developed into what Atlanta became. It had the potential with transportation networks running through it, and the economic prosperity from its steel industry. But racism ruined that potential. Unfortunately, by the 1940s Birmingham became known as "Bombingham" for a series of bombings to prevent African American people from moving into white neighborhoods. From the 1950s until about 1963, Birmingham was ruled by officials that cowtowed to racist mobs. When the SCLC held their demonstrations in the city from April to May '63, Fred Shuttelsworth and MLK Jr forced the city fathers to negotiate an end to the conflict that desegregated the town. Unfortunately, the KKK had a different idea and bombed the 16th street Baptist Church (the homebase for the children's marches the previous spring) that September, but that was a wakeup call. After that point, the city fathers got together and decided that racism was destroying the reputation and ruining the economic potential of the city. In the last six decades, while the steel industry has declined, the city incorporated UAB and its teaching hospital that implanted two new economic engines within the city. Since the mid'60s, Birmingham hasnt been perfect in its race relations as the buildup of UAB campus and hospital used eminent domain to destroy "blighted" neighborhoods which usually ended up targeting African American parts of the city. But reforms to the police forces and other changes really eliminated the de jure forms of discrimination Birmingham was known for in the mid20th century. But since 1963, Birmingham has fared better than some cities of the North or West that had simmering frustrations over police brutality like LA in '92 or Ferguson, MO in 2014, or Minneapolis in 2020. I grew up in Irondale, where the setting of the film "Fried Green Tomatoes (1991)" was based. It depicts the area of my hometown, in the early 1900s as a very small town with few buildings which is pretty accurate to what would have been there at that time. I am forty years old, my elementary school in 1989, had to rely on a few trailers as the school building did not finish construction until the following year. Fortunately, i was born into a generation where my schooling was integrated from the get go. I never experienced busing because my neighborhood and the surrounding community were and are integrated. My high school graduating class was a little over 200 (my high school has had about 1200 students/year over the last 20 plus years), sixty percent white and forty percent nonwhite (between 35 and 39 of that forty percent being African American). The houses i have lived in were built in the 50s and the 70s. It is entirely possible for major changes to happen within a single generation. Hoover, a Birmingham metro suburb, went from a very small town to a thriving city within a generation or two. In 1970 their population was 688; by 1980 it was 19,000; today its 92,000. The urban area population today is 774,000 and the suburban metro area population is 1.3 million. It is entirely possible for an area with explosive economic growth to explode in population in such a short time frame. Is the author saying that Birmingham is much older than 1871 when it was founded? Why would the historical records indicate that it was then? To doubt that implies a major conspiracy that people would want to conceal the origins of the city. But how would that benefit those investing capital in the city? Surely, if Birmingham was more established wouldn't that have encouraged more investment because it would have been safer to invest in a more established location? In other words, if they could have legitimately claimed that Birmingham had been established for generations before the 1870s then they would have for rational reasons based on economic factors that more established areas are better for investing money in. But they couldn't because it wasn't. For those interested in the actual early history of Birmingham, Alabama, See: John West Battle Cheney's Master's thesis entitled, "Birmingham's Infrastructure Pioneers:The Elyton Land Company and its Waterworks, 1871 to 1899," is available for free online at JSU Digital Commons. Bhamhistory(dot)com has a transcript of the charter that incorporated the land in 1871 and is also available online for viewing for free. Glenn Eskew's "But for Birmingham: The Local and National Movements in the Civil Rights Struggle" is the best volume to read about the mid-20th century history of the city and delves into the civil rights struggle that desegregated the city.

[@mrs.aaaartanitaambrister5084]

I have watched Jon Levi for years, it was great to see exploration close to my home. I live just a few miles from Birmingham.

[@kennethhart3904]

Why such large post offices for so few people?

[@ElvisPressCompany]

Old World Amazon

[@wdgbirmingham2]

@@ElvisPressCompany 😂😂😂 excellent answer!

[@lindsnmacb]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@bigbambeno_2058]

Before becoming iron city the masonry industry was huge here in Birmingham. The past here is amazing people from all over North America come here to work and learn these skills.

[@Captain_Ken]

To this day, I think the population numbers are a bit deceiving. The majority of the population lives in the surrounding County area and not in the city proper. Birmingham is the County seat of Jefferson County the population of Jefferson county is more indicative of the actual of the area. Typically Jefferson County is 2.5X to 3X the population of the City of Birmingham. Not to mention the area was growing VERY fast until the 1960's.

[@ralphbryant8178]

Born and raised here in Birmingham Alabama. They don’t change much of old buildings. They only change what’s needed and make sure it’s structural sound. So most of the original buildings still remain. Just needed changes

[@coolvisions4999]

The city was dubbed "The Magic City" because of how quickly it grew. Steel mills and coal mining operations fueled the early economy and rapid growth. I was born and raised here. Some of those old buildings still stand today (2024). Some of those workers row houses still stand in areas like Ishkooda and Muscoda. My mother told me about the terminal station. It was still around in the early 1960's. She said it was a grand building with marble floors. Red Mountain expressway viaduct goes over its former location.

[@shivshaktidas108]

Et oui, en ce lieu comme tant d'autre, vivaient un grand nombre d'architectes de talents, d'ingénieurs formidables et d'innombrables ouvriers hyper qualifiés formés par de grandes écoles de constructions très réputées et mondialement connues, qui avaient hérité leur savoir de plusieurs générations. Malheureusement aucun des plans de constructions de ces milliers de constructions monumentales et juste magnifiques n'ont été retrouvés. Et c'est à peu près la même chose concernant les photographies des chantiers en cours de construction de ces merveilles : on ne sait pas ou elles sont ...

[@tinathene]

Amazing. I thought Chicago was extreme in having torn down perfectly robust looking buildings to build anew. As a tour guide learning layers of history…never understanding why it wasn’t simply maintained instead of completely torn down. The past few years have really opened my eyes. Thank you for your quality content.

[@createa.googleaccount713]

I admire your AMAZING WORKS!!! SUPER THANK YOU!❤

[@oldworldex]

Much appreciated..

[@sino8r499]

I work in downtown B'ham and walk by two of these buildings daily. I'm amazed by the construction & art deco style. The history of the 1800s has definitely been covered up here and elsewhere

[@roberthouse4228]

And Morris Ave , I'm down town everyday as well and have been taking pictures of those buildings for years, asking who and by who were they built. I'm retired Jefferson deputy, and I've had the opportunity to go in manybof the buildings and churches down town and I was simply put, in awe when I saw the craftsmanship.

[@dankoston2904]

I took all types of drafting classes starting in high school. Then again, in the old school drafting tables after the navy. I changed majors after taking. Architectural drafting and decided to take electronics drafting and classes instead. I was a tree trimmer during the day and going to college at night. Then I was injured at work, breaking my neck on the job. Since I could no longer build circuit boards or operate testing equipment.I was forced to go back to drafting, where I completed my associates degree for the second time drafting on computers. No one builds buildings like these without plans. I say it would take at least a couple of years to design just one of these buildings before construction even begins. There is no possible way they could complete these buildings in the time they claim, especially with the limited number of skilled workers. In addition to drafting, I was an experienced electrician both in the Navy and afterwards in both residential and commercial buildings. The last construction photos is a joke. Thet would never construct multiple stories above without putting in flooring to stand on as they built upwards.

[@bad2mx]

Imagine how long it would take to hand dig the basement, compact the soil if not hitting bedrock, haul away all that dug out material with wagons and to where, how far away. And as far as advanced planning goes now days it took months just to get an architect to draw me up a custom deck plan to submit to the city for a building permit.

[@HANZELVANDERLAAY]

​@@bad2mxwhy are we being misled?? Confusing.. What is the benefit??

[@HANZELVANDERLAAY]

@bentheredonethat-lx6nh I'm Buddhist...so not sure that applies

[@HANZELVANDERLAAY]

@bentheredonethat-lx6nh Buddhists are into.. nature .. they're not really into books.. but thank you..peace

[@HANZELVANDERLAAY]

@bentheredonethat-lx6nh btw... Buddhists worship water..it cleanses ya know

[@vaman33]

Thank you, great work !!

[@JamesMoore-xd1tz]

60 miles east is Anniston Alabama. They also have a lyrics square which they say was to have been a theater and also a peerless saloon. It's stated as the oldest saloon in Alabama.

[@waltrogersmusic]

Some SERIOUS bangers in Birmingham. Wow!

[@tmccully127]

I grew up in and around Birmingham Al. until we moved out as I started high school. I later moved back and lived and worked in Birmingham for several more years. I actually worked in the scaffold construction industry for a few years and was lucky enough to have been inside several of these old churches, and several other old buildings. I always wondered why so much design and detail was put into these old buildings, but not much creative artwork is put into newer buildings? I'm sure the real history will never be known as nobody is alive from the 1800s.

[@howdiedoodie8587]

Morris Ave in Birmingham is a cobblestone road. I was told the pavers are granite and were hand cut from Stone Mountain in Ga. In the community of Wylam, the curbs are large slabs of the same granite from Stone Mountain. I would love to know when they were cut and by whom. I do know Morris Ave was built for carriages and there was plenty of parking in the area for the carriages back in the day.

[@shivshaktidas108]

And this place also had a large number of talented architects, formidable engineers and countless highly skilled workers trained by great and highly reputable construction schools who had inherited their knowledge from several generations??? Have a good and peaceful day everyone !

[@joymelton-bollen6383]

I'm in Birmingham AL, I love history, all all things old, old cemeteries, I've always noticed dates on gravestones, embedded in certain streets downtown, on buildings..DO NOT MATCH the academic narrative. Also look at books published BEFORE the 70's of maps of AL. My generational grandfather was John Melton, who Moulton AL was once Melton's Springs and Melton's Bluff AL, my Grandfather was a sympathizer,married to a cherokee , his home and town was part of the underground railroad , slaves and natives found refuge there, our family records do nit match what we know academically. My maternal family is Cherokee. My parents met in 1964. I think it's fascinating my family intertwined during the Trail of Tears at Melton's Bluff, then again in the 1960's...Melton's Bluff and Springs was confiscated by Andrew Jackson, and he burnt my grandfathers town. He is also the one who slaughtered my maternal family...so guess what I did?? I married Andrew Jackson's generational grandson in 1992 and didn't even know I was marrying into the very bloodline that destroyed parts of BOTH of my bloodlines...but we got Jackson back...my oldest son is one of the few who went in and destroyed Isis...so I like to think those two destroyed bloodlines over came the one that destroyed them when my son made world wide changes for the better when destroying Isis! I'm just now seeing this channel, I'm glad I came across this! OH...and Jackson's personal family records DO NOT match what we know academically either!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@steveneighner7543]

First it's Birming-ham not Biming-um in how we pronounce it in the US so I don't know where you're from but most Americans know this lol. Birmingham was the heart of the steel industry of the South and many people who were in the city actually lived outside the city but worked inside the city so the actual population was much higher than the official population statistics of who actually lived in the city. So, you're going about all of this focusing on the population who lived in the city when it was like many cities where the working population could double or triple the population who are in the city but who don't actually live there. In Alabama, at that time, there were few big cities as it's always been a mostly rural state where your large population centers were spread out over a larger area but who came to the city to get what they wanted. The steel mills made the difference and you barely touched on this at all. Birmingham had a lot of wealth from the beginning and wealthy people wanted to show their wealth and opulance even in the South. You'll find similar things for Atlanta and many other cities that early wealth led people to build magnificent things especially when they were trying to live up to a reputation. And the reason you're seeing a carbon copy of things is this was an industrial city, a booming steel industry with numerous manufacturers and you didn't focus on this most important thing about Birmingham which is why you don't seem to understand anything about the city and make it sound like you're one of these ghost hunting mystery buffs. Question... would you respond like this about Pittsburgh? Like Pittsburgh, Birmingham was a city built by the steel industry. I hate to say this but you sound totally ignorant not to be mentioning the steel industry angle that everyone who does any research on the city finds out first. Basically you can't research anything about Birmingham without learning it was a steel city and that much of it's population lived outside the city. There are several smaller cities around Birmingham that sprang up because of this as they lived in these cities but most worked in Birmingham. It was interesting to see you address the old city but the way you address it like the city is from an alternate dimension that just appeared is rather ridiculous and your choice of music makes it sound like you're saying it's all a supernatural mystery lol. Is this like a part one or two as you don't mention the steel industry at all which answers all of your questions. You really should redo this and mention the steel industry as you sound like you're from an alien planet here not knowing the one thing that explains all the mystery where you say there's no way this or that existed and we're being tricked and stuff.

[@wadet73]

I have lived in and around Birmingham Alabama all my life. The old Alabama power building and many more in downtown Birmingham I think are previous civilization structures. Look I to the old presbyterian church. The recently renovated Jefferson Tower in Birmingham Alabama actually included restoration of the mooring mast at the top of the building. And there are known areas of downtown to have completely sunken and still furnished first floors

[@wadet73]

Oh and The Tutwiler hotel

[@wadet73]

You found the church! That's the presbyterian church I mentioned. I was in a wedding there and it's a huge, tall sanctuary (catode-dral)

[@wadet73]

St Vincent hospital just sold its entire campus to the university of Alabama at Birmingham

[@loujones5388]

I hate that University of Alabama Hospital bought St. Vincent’s Hospital. My family always used St. Vincent’s and my oldest daughter was born there. My mother worked in the old University Hospital in the emergency room as a social worker. Now that was a tough job!

[@jfrancis6191]

I can never get over how much better the craftsmanship is in older buildings, not to mention the creativity that goes into the designs. Modernism really degraded our cities to a depressing degree. So much 20th century architecture seemed to have been conceived with the express purpose of dulling the human spirit. And now we see it in everything from music to cars to fashion. Everything is bland. I hate it! Thank you for the work you put into this channel. I especially like the side-by-side comparisons; the contrast is shocking!

[@williamjones7604]

Great work as always...

[@scootertrash911]

Birmingham was surrounded by smaller cities in years past cofusing census numbers. I am pretty sure that North Birmingham was a city, as was Ensley. Pratt City and maybe other surrounding towns that were later annexed to make population figures confusing. Coal and iron ore were both practically laying on top of the ground and the number of mines, scattered all over Jefferson County was incredible, so there was money around the Birmingham area from the very beginning, steel mills were pretty numerous and scattered throughout Jefferson and Shelby Counties. Mine maps of the area show most of the area being undermined. A fella could do pretty good in the Birmingham area working in the mines and growing his groceries in a garden, way back in the 1880's.

[@roberthouse4228]

What years were Ensley , Pratt City, Homewood, Mountain Brook listed as cities? None of them were before 1890

[@Bo-whiskey]

Ensley, Pratt, Avondale, East Lake, Southside (5 Points South) and Woodlawn were all individual cities prior to 1910.

[@CHILLknowsfootball]

There were neighborhoods already established in Birmingham in the 1840s. Wherever you got that detail about the first house being built in 1869 was wrong.

[@CHILLknowsfootball]

Woodlawn can trace its roots all the way back to 1815, when a group of farming families-led by Obadiah Washington Wood-settled in the area

[@willyp3285]

We still stand in awe of what our competent ancestors in what was still a high trust society were capable of. How far we’ve fallen.

[@brianhester6406]

It wasn't anything innocent like a fall, we have been pushed down 1000x times

[@willyp3285]

@ perhaps never so insidiously in such a short amount of time. People are taking notice. Hubris always precedes the downfall.

[@RiverOvKnives90]

You have been one of my absolute favorites for awhile now and this was another banger! I would love to see some videos on Hawaii and or Alaska.

[@johntalley6028]

Keep in mind Birmingham was a steel city, so while the population was one level, the workforce that commuted in and out was huge and the amount of commerce that took place was great as well.

[@ralphbryant8178]

Lastly in Woodlawn. There’s was a old church they say was built in 16 or 17th century that burn down

[@OldWorldMissouri-wi9it]

Great show Old World Springs invites you to watch Huntsville Alabama and its ancient springs.

[@teller1290]

Whatever happened to the Ardon Hotel in downtown Birmingham? My granddad managed it in the '50's.

[@kpinsnpanda8296]

The Arden hotel is/was located in Birmingham, England.

[@teller1290]

@kpinsnpanda8296 There was one in Bham, AL, as well. I acquired a matchbook from there off of eBay several years ago and my grandpop managed it long ago.

[@craigjackson5345]

I am from Birmingham and live right out side of it now, this city has always chosen to tear down and rebuild. A lot of bad decisions have been made in the architectural of this city.

[@sgrowe56]

Lake Purdy is where Birmingham gets it's water supply today.

[@kpinsnpanda8296]

Yes ..and the photo he shows of the dam is The B’ham Waterworks.

[@linnhudson4908]

I worked on the Southside Baptist church, it has underground floors. The interior walls were a type of block , I think it was full of a powder, we tested the powder to make sure it wasn't hazardous. Very intricate building with many rooms and stages for plays.

[@kennethhart3904]

I think pre 1900's hurricane Galveston would be a good one but I'm not sure how many photos exist?

[@oldworldex]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZzWd5qhntGEp8k

[@rageagainstthemachine7434]

HERE IN BIRMINGHAM , ALABAMA.... 💥💥💥💫💥💫💫💫💥💥💫💥💥💥

[@Bama_Law]

12:08 is looking right at Red Mountain and is South. Now the Vulcan stands there and separates Vestavia Hills, and B'ham.

[@Bo-whiskey]

Vulcan separates Birmingham and Homewood.. not Vestavia.

[@Jaybo79]

Great job.

[@noahhm24]

I’ve been looking for old world Bham AL content for so long. Thank you so much for this video on my city :)

[@oldworldex]

You're welcome, enjoy!

[@kpinsnpanda8296]

Much of it is way off on the timeline.

[@jessbutv]

Amazing work!

[@Tgill2236]

I don’t mean to take away the allure, but many of those captivating cornices and ornamental details are just made from dropped hammered sheet metal. These pieces are nailed to wood blocking that are simply mortared into the brickwork. The company W.F. Norman Corp. continues to produce these using the same equipment they've had starting from 1890.

[@williamjones7604]

Today die and punch would be modeled using solid modeling software, programmed with CAM software, made out of tool steel, machined on a CNC milling machine, heat treated , polished and then run in a hydraulic stamping press. CC

[@harrybloom9213]

Brilliant! As always +100000

[@oldworldex]

Cheers...

[@greggibbs5288]

The bells were for healing, the Tutwiler hotel had its own water source!

[@alanmatthews9260]

What am I missing? I don’t understand what your angle is because you talk in ways that sound like you don’t believe something. And I’m not sure what that something is. For example, you show statues on top of the building or a roof line or something and you say phrases like “give me a break.” I don’t get it

[@shawnybee77]

Great video Chris... You just keep bringing the heat every week

[@johnallen8248]

As many have stated, Birmingham city proper is very small. It mainly consists of the downtown area, where many people work, but few live. Today, the population is around 200k, but the metro area is well north of a million. More than likely, the large jump in population at the turn of the century was a change in city boarder to include surrounding residential areas that were not previously included.

[@aedington68]

First of all, love this channel, great videos and I love the "question everything" mentality, we need more of that! One thing I am thinking watching these videos and considering the modern landscape; from kind of an Occam's Razor perspective: What if the explanation just is that you could get wayyyyy more done in a much shorter amount of time in the past due to drastically reduced or non-existent regulations. The amount of self-imposed limitations we've allowed to be thrust on society has held us back drastically IMO.

[@oldworldex]

the problem with that is in order to reconcile this statement, we have to throw out all the technological advancements we've made since then. Advancements made specifically to expedite and ease the process of construction. Electric power tools, hydraulic power for lifting and force multiplication, building product advancements, etc. In this way, occam's razor doesn't apply, and one is forced to seek out alternative explanations. That's what I'm doing here on this channel. Appreciate the comment.

[@RTR15Glenn]

@@oldworldexhey so this is the first time I’ve seen this channel. What’s your main theory about the timelines and population numbers being wrong? Have you written about it anywhere or laid it all out in another video? Thanks

[@oldworldex]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q16knJiHhJ1ogaM try this one. It's my attempt to sum it up. I appreciate you being here..

[@Cjohn31]

Im a 30 plus year experience carpenter. I really enjoy historical restoration. I can definitely say our craft has lost so much its unbiased. As far as the old structure they hide from us i personally believe electricity was once free and unlimited and thats what the old tops was for

[@tmmanville]

The Lake Purdy dam is still standing. There are plans to start renovations this year.

[@sheilafort2193]

These old structures are older than the narratives/dates that are projected. Some of the structures have been torn down to hide the real truth. Of who the original designers were and where they came from in history Before the founders and settlers came into America. This is the main reasons why they had to alter the dates of the actual constructions. Most settlers did not come into America until the 17th/1800s.These structures are hundreds of years older which dates back during much... Earlier times. Thank you, greatly appreciate your channel in presenting these older structures.

[@karencontestabile6064]

The Dutch came to NYS in the 1600s. The Spaniards came to Cali in the 1500s.

[@ralphbryant8178]

13:01 every hour there’s a bell that rings from this church.

[@RyscoNation]

I'm from Birmingham and live in a suburb 15 minutes away from downtown where I work close to the Pizitz, The Lyric, and Alabama Theatre. I went to a wedding recently at the Thomas Jefferson Hotel Building and I often go fishing at Lake Purdy with my Dad. Apparently my house is built with salvaged bricks from a downtown hotel - built in the early 50's. Love my Magic City. I think you'd be surprised the money Birmingham generated from the raw material Steel production with Rail and their Bankers and ability to finance. Coming from the son of a life long coal miner. But I agree - hard to fathom.

[@Unique_Monk]

Excellent eye opener The temple - in Jerusalem took them circa 45+ yrs to build yet in Birmingham they put them up and took them down in 50 yrs - yep, it doesn’t make sense

[@bad2mx]

At 29:36, in all these old construction photos they always seem to complete the exterior finish masonry as the building is going up floor by floor without any exterior scaffolding, makes no sense at all.

[@gulfy09]

Where were the steel mills that built train tracks and street cars.

[@jilljohnson9310]

I grew up there and have done some research on the area later on. I have seen some and been in some of the structures. It was not unusual for that era. The reason Birmingham was called 'The Magic City' is due to the phenomenal growth of the area in a short period of time. This was due to the discovery of the coal and iron ore discovered there. Yes, it was sparsely populated before the Civil War, but there was a plantation nearby; I can't recall the name at the moment. Look up Elyton, AL. 1820. Later, it became part of downtown Birmingham. Many buildings were built like what you picture, but it seems to be a common practice of that time. I've been in some of them, ones that were standing after the 50's. As far as I know, the original entrance to UAB Hospital still exists, but a catwalk was built above it. When I went to school there, I would walk through that entrance to do my rotations. I understand your questions; some are vague. Some things I admit I don't know about. If they weren't connected to my personal and family history, I would be skeptical too.

[@williamjones7604]

I would be skeptical too if my last name was Johnson.

[@wdgbirmingham2]

@@jilljohnson9310 the Plantation you're remembering is called Arlington. It's now called "Arlington Home and Gardens" but it was a Plantation built before the War Between the States. I didn't mention it before because the opening shot of this video was a shack labeled "first home in Birmingham" - I don't think a Plantation outside of the city limits at the time counts! However, it's definitely within the city limits today. They have weddings and events there. It's lovely. You mentioned Elyton, the photo in the video of the building with the female face in the crescent moon jutting out? That building is currently the Elyton Hotel. Lastly, yes, the original hospital still stands. Did you go to Medical School here? UAB Dental School is about a block from there, on 7th Ave South between 20th and 19th streets, I just had an appointment there last Monday. UAB is just growing and growing.

[@zacagewa6205]

The tower at the top of TJ is a blimp docking station

[@russellh24680]

Really amazed at the amount of building in one location in that time period. Well presented and great research. Following from Tasmania.

[@HANZELVANDERLAAY]

Tasmania... WOW..how cool..never been there..cheers brethren

[@ceeswift9241]

Tartarian architecture..💪🏾

[@truckinggettingit9660]

Can you do social circle GA

[@TheBuilder1974]

thanks

[@dougg1075]

How do you propose they pulled this off?

[@kpinsnpanda8296]

What exactly is it that they pulled off. All of these buildings most certainly existed. Many still do exist.

[@scottcousins9038]

Bham had steel, 3 elements needed to make it. Most of the high end lived over the mountain where the smoke was not as bad. Not in bham proper.

[@Jworld22]

Once lived in an apartment supposedly built 1903 south side super nice

[@nocensors]

Atheneum : A building or room in which books, periodicals, and newspapers are kept for use.

[@rexthornton6512]

Why can't we construct buildings today as nice as they did back then. Seems like our knowledge has went backwards. They were smarter back then than we are today. Now that's sad. Thank you for the video. I don't live too far from bham. I really enjoyed your video. God bless you, brother. 🙏

[@karencontestabile6064]

Has gone, not has went

[@rexthornton6512]

@karencontestabile6064 Listen, I know I sometimes I make mistakes when I'm writing. I also know that spell check sometimes changes words that were right. English was never my best subject. I also read and see others writing incorrectly. But you know what I never ever do? I never correct them because it's not my job. I also know people make mistakes. So please, when you see something I have written, don't correct me. I believe people are smart enough to know what I mean. I promise you if I ever want a teacher to teach me English you will be the first one I don't call. Thank you for staying out of my business.

[@fredsilvers1427]

I have knowledge of what has been referred to as the vril or aether that they utilized in certain ways then. Scalar manipulation is involved. It's the energy of the fallen (the fallen incorporated within matter). The building materials, shape, placement, alignment, order, relative positioning among other structures, color, decor, extravagant architectural features (holes, arches, symbols, statues, etc), landscaping (especially round water features), building materials and much more are all meticulously crafted in complex detail to accomplish desired effect. It's still done today but in different ways using altogether different technologies. I've worked in construction engineering for nearly 26 years and see things with knowledge they don't realize I have. I have all but given up on finding someone who genuinely wants to subject their self to the process of leaning even part of what I know.

[@tartarianexplorer]

🔥 wow I’m going to post some instagram stories on some of these building just incredible they were demolished!! Doing great work brother

[@oldworldex]

Cheers!

[@TBGODMOM]

The pic you skipped was of the 16th street Baptist church Bombing. You could have spoke more on that. it's still here so is the high school you showed. It's called Ramsey High. You didn't cover any of the westen area where a lot of steel plants were. I'm quite sure they were there

[@Mr53gil]

What you did not have the temple of Vesta or the castles in or near Birmingham. What about the civil war irons works that was found across from the old train station and we can not over Vulcan that over looks the city. All in all a very good video.

[@keithferrante6915]

Love that street shot clear photo rail cars seems like 2 timelines existed at the same time in the late 1800s