Old World Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

[@MegaTriumph1]

Chris at the end the lionhead and the Griffin. As a child I had allergies and needed to be tested in Seattle early 60's. I noticed this all granite building with fancy elevators and decorations it was just beautiful its where I had to go get tested. I remember it gave me a since of security that if they could build this building they could definitely figure out my allergies. So what I'm saying is these buildings, they did have an effect on my psychology at an early age.

[@kde5fan737]

I agree about the psychological effect of these magnificent old buildings as I still remember the first time I saw the PA state capitol & the class tour I took in elementary school. I remember being in awe while walking through the Capital building and thought the people who built this must have been "gods" or at least absolute masters of their craft, meaning very few if anyone was better at designing or actual construction (masonry). I think it also gives a sense of intimidation & shows the power of the state & government, especially when it's being introduced to a young child.

[@WorthyistheLambRev1]

These buildings were from the millennial reign of Christ. They tried to destroy them all after Satan was loosed again (statue of liberty) to deceive for a short season. Rev 20. Which is where we are!

[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

Way before this Old World or "Tartaria" stuff I was having dreams of being or climbing over the ruins of this other Victorian buildings - really spooky feeling of older stuff - I later deduced that my Dad had gone down in the 1960's in Cleveland's millionaire Houses (stolen by 'tycoons') and they were being torn down and I bet I was just 3 or 4 and was taken down there - sitting in the car as he took out heavy stones (we have) and heavy old wooden beams - I ride my bike down in Cleveland and now 'with eye's that see' - I see tons of Old World stuff and there are chuck holes revealing (I think) the whole city was brick roads and must have looked like the Wizard of Oz world - I think all the cities had brick roads

[@cathybroughton66]

All of these gorgeous old world buildings and yet we didn’t have the technology to get out of our own way. Thank you Chris for this awesome video.

[@drumstick74]

It's like time and money was no object for the builders in the past. Magnificence!

[@MrMoparbob498]

Right on , outstanding assortment of "Old World Architecture" that stuff NEVER gets old, X stone mason here.... Uhhh, no way are those build dates feasible... the craftsmanship is amazing & probably tells a tale that WE can't decipher , read - etc... Thanks for taking the time to create this.

[@oldworldex]

Thanks for watching and adding to the story..

[@earlyburg]

I remember 50 years ago in Steelton things looked much different. From Harrisburg to Highspire was one big Steel Mill. One of my first childhood memories was driving down Front Street in Steelton with my Mom at night right around Christmas. Going towards E-town (the long way) I would look out the car window and see mile after mile of mill sheds, glowing smelters and coke furnaces and stacks and stacks of I-beams waiting to be loaded onto rail cars. I remember the electrical and utility poles in the area because they were made from steel, and not wood telephone poles. To me as a boy it looked very exciting and busy and bustling and modern. That was when America still made things. Bridges? Harrisburg made steel for the entire US and abroad at one time. That's all gone now but I remember... You could go to a diner and have eggs, scrapple and some hash browns with white Wonderbread toast and black Maxwell House brewed coffee. I would get a hamburger and a Coke. Everyone smoked cigarettes indoors. Everybody worked. When you went to the gas station, there was an attendent who pumped your gas, cleaned your windshield and checked your oil, usually an old war veteran, because it was a pretty easy goiing job back then. If you used the elevator, there would be an attendent who would ask you "what floor please Ma'am" and push the buttons for you.

[@drumstick74]

To combat stress, your videos is a good resource - learning about history with chilled out music and rare pictures,-thanks!

[@oldworldex]

Thank you I appreciate this feedback.

[@jonathanbutler3833]

This research is like digging carrots, it never gets old, each new one you dig up looks different and the same but you’re always happy to see them. The past was a blast yall

[@scottpike9009]

Let’s do it again! 😀

[@richard1849]

12.25, ceiling mural vs wall mural... NICE CATCH!

[@kde5fan737]

The Harrisburg Capital Complex is amazingly large and is absolutely beautiful. I have a very difficult time believing that they built this complex for a STATE when it would & does put many countries capitol complexes to shame. Why did they need this at that time! How much extra time & $$ did they have floating around to do this? If you told me that this was built to be the nation's capitol (instead of DC), I would completely believe it and I would still think it was opulent (excessive) even when representing the entire NATION! I remember tours of this in elementary school (maybe 4th - 6th grade??) and back then I was stunned & in disbelief as I thought I was standing in some kind of royal castle from England or France. I do remember the tour guide telling us that the Capitol Building ALONE was "priceless" and IIRC, she said that we were incapable of replicating it, even at the current time & with current tech (mid 1980's).

[@rzella8022]

I was in the city briefly once in 2001, but so sadly not to that building; to a wedding just south of Harrisburg. Everyone talked of 911 that had just happened. Oh well.

[@goose33]

Check the wilkes barre courthouse Insane

[@tracylett5355]

The state building is breathtaking! 😚 Well done as always! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@kde5fan737]

I was told that fancy "moulding" is carved wood with gold leaf overlaying it as I remember being told there was a fair amount of gold used in the actual construction of the building (gold doesn't tarnish or corrode).

[@hawaiiguykailua6928]

The more I look at random little towns on cardcow the more it looks like these old buildings were built to be in water. Maybe we've looked at it all backwards as to mudflood maybe it was all Waterworld and the great drain?

[@YarnaholicAnonymous]

Love your work. Even though I watch a lot on these topics, the fabulous structures make me weepy. So fantastical and luxurious. I remember some from my youth here in my little city in kansas. I gotta buy a camera!

[@Restitutor_Orbis_214]

Great job Brother OWE, especially at 12:15. I cannot stand it when they throw up that new stuff.

[@patriciamartin19]

Where did all the large blocks come from?? ( for the Rockville bridge)

[@sickntired2059]

Yes, common sense tells you that the narrative is ridiculous. What a world it must have been. Great video.

[@earlyburg]

Whos narritive? Yours?

[@waynebailey212]

I live in Maryland but will be right outside Harrisburg this weekend.

[@corkygoss7403]

My questions for decades have revolved around ARCHIVED BLUEPRINTS/ENGINEERING DRAWINGS. Can you possibly do a show on oldest and best blueprints, for ANY of the architectural feats we are seeing? They must be archived somewhere,and show GREAT DETAIL. I can tell you know exactly what I a referring to. Missing drawings and the role of drawing in architecture is simply not widely understood. Thanks a million!

[@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st]

I agree - were they that good at removing that type of evidence ? and wouldn't workers find documents lost or left in areas behind walls ? I'm sure SOMEONE or some group does have lots and lots of evidence - but can WE figure it out without all that ? like somehow carbon dating ? or some such thing

[@michaeltreacy6356]

I believe the "Statue of Liberty" here is actually the goddess Sequana, patronness of the Susquehanna.

[@kde5fan737]

That statue of Liberty is just a couple miles south of Halifax & Halifax is about 15-20 miles north of Harrisburg. From what I remember, the statue was donated by some artist back in the 60's or 70's.

[@DocJones0429]

A lawyer put it up

[@DocJones0429]

In the 80s or 90s and was later refurbished

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

I remember going to the YMCA Barber shop for a haircut in downtown Erie , Pa. Access was outside down basement window entrance stairs same as old world photos. Maybe these basement areas were designed for a one stop shopping center area for HVAC , food , clothing , medical and servant living quarter areas that was designed as a possible caste type social system similarly in India's history ?

[@earlyburg]

In 1953 my Mother graduated from Marietta HS. Her family was PA German and my Grandpa told her that she would be going to Nursing school. My Mother could not handle the sight of blood and had to quit nursing school. My Grandfather then told her that she would become a teacher and so she went to College and became a teacher at Milton Hershey School for Boys. That is the way it was in PA German families back then. The male was in charge and told the women what to do and they obeyed. I remember getting sick in Church one time and my Mom letting me throw up in her purse, snapping it shut and then kneeling down to finish the prayer.

[@davidmarks500]

Great research as per usual. Have you looked into Pittsburg PA? Check out the Allegheny courthouse supposedly built by Henry Hobson Richardson, lots of interesting pictures of them digging it out. Also, there’s the removal of Grants Hill up to 30 feet of mud.

[@pinkiesue849]

They dug out the courthouse...wow

[@daveweiss5647]

What am amazing and beautiful history we used to have... an absolute tragedy what happened to us...

[@earlyburg]

I'm from Lancaster PA. The ruined bridge supports shown @8:10 were an old wooden bridge that the Union Army burned during the Civil war to prevent the Confederate army from crossing the Susquehanna river. The river bed is trecherous because there is a lot of limestone in the area, which makes sinkholes, unpredictable currents and rips. Everyone in the area knows to Do Not Swim in the Susquehanna River or you might drown. It's no joke. The river is for the most part pretty shallow, so it was quite easy to build the bridge out of cut stone blocks. These bridges are all over the place in PA and MD, due to the prolific amount of sandstone conglomerate rocks, which are easy to shape and do not degrade easily. No conspiricy just a bunch of hardworking stoic German immagrants doing what they do best, work and eat chow chow lol. I love me some Shoo Fly Pie as well. My Mother was from Columbia PA and my Father from Pittsburg area. A lot of people don't know that there is a centuries-old rivalry between Harrisburg, and neighboring York PA, right across the river... This area was one of the first in the Colonies to be settled. If you want to learn about true darkness in the Harrisburg area, you need to research Simon Girty. He was a local guy... See you at Dutch Wonderland. By the way, your take on masonry is dead wrong. The picture @5:48 is legit. The arches are constructed first. If you had ever seen it done you would know. It's the KEYSTONE State.

[@oldworldex]

'No conspiricy just a bunch of hardworking stoic German immagrants' my favourite line in this comment. If I had a penny for every time I heard this one...thanks for watching.

[@earlyburg]

@@oldworldex Well, since you are speaking about my ancestors, some of who fought at Bunker Hill and were at Valley Forge with General Washington, and who happened to be rather unwashed but hardworking German immigrants from this general area, if it was not for hard work and stoicism, what was the major factor in your estimation to enable this bridge to be built? Keep in mind that I have worked as a stonemasons apprentice... Thanks for posting. You go down in the County and ask around for Stoners, Lentzes, Lights, Yoders, and Burgesses and you will meet my big German hardworking family. Are you saying my ancestors are a myth? If that is true how am I here writing this? The thing that you may wish to take into consideration is that there are a lot of gaps in the history records. You can go down to the Lebanon Historical Society and read a book there written by my Mother, Rita Stoner Burgess. She spent 40 years helping historians piece together land records through geaneological birth records in Dauphin, Lancaster and Lebanon counties. I really don't sense the same level of effort or factfinding in this presentation. My ancestors signed their name with an X because the English census taker refused to admit that Germans were smart enough to write. That's how their name changed from Steiner to Stoner. Regardless of this insult, they stoicly remained in Dauphin County for the next 300 years or so.

[@hendo337]

In a village called Minetto, NY, there ruins of an old bridge across the Oswego River, right next to the new bridge and the canal locks.

[@erinevans9113]

In the picture of Lincoln's funeral train (20:47), anyone else notice dirigibles in the sky?

[@pinkiesue849]

All I can say is Wow

[@earlyburg]

Place names in French German and English in an old world context. Wm Penn was a rich idealist who subscribed to the philosophies of Decarte and Thomas Locke. He created his own chunk of territory that a foreign king gave him, and proceeded to advertise that you could have religious freedom in "Penn' Woods". Everyone who came there hated the opressive monarchies they came from. A lot of Catholics and Lutherans came there because they were being persecuted in Germany and England at the time. In Europe, the towns a burroughs already had names. In PA they could give things any darn name they wanted to, and they did. Doubtless they took immense joy in naming towns "Mount Joy", "Blue Ball" or "Lancaster" after a failed English bloodline. They were saying F**k Y** to Europe and the old world. It was the new world. No Kings or Queens to rule over them and take their money. Despite the ideals that inspired its formation as a "Commonwealth" instead of a regular State, racism was rampant in the Colonial Era. I have read that English immagrants looked down on German settlers as poor and dirty; -- "Always destitute and not even having enough copper for buttons on their coats."

[@c_hunting]

Again enjoy your presentation and your calming audio. I wonder about the financial history going in and out of these buildings. It would be nice to attach that information for the archive reconstruction 😊

[@Yareyareda_ze]

From the area and my son and I are finding old world all over PA- even in the smallest towns

[@rockinrobfarber2626]

Another great video!

[@marcb6863]

Another Pennsylvania!!!!! Thank you Chris! Sorry for the whacky email about the flatiron construction the other day (looked at it more closely and realized my initial thoughts were off)

[@oldworldex]

All good. There's a lot of wacky when peering into our past..

[@mattgould8592]

Great video and commentary.

[@seandelfin]

i want to see an expose on all of the architects that LOST the architect competitions

[@oldworldex]

Maybe they were forced to take up the tools...could be an explanation for the buildings. Many of the builders were architects who's plans weren't chosen. That and stoic Germans.

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

Rockville , Pa. Stone bridge would be an impossible feat to build today even if the best builders were forced to duplicate it with today's technology.

[@dn744]

At 10:30 point, the stone looks old. This is likely dismantle, not build. Often using the pics to claim its others being constructed. 😊

[@angela-ti1np]

Dismantle?? That is the North or South Office Building, They are twins built one right after another around 1920. They're both still there.

[@damnyankeesdaughter5427]

Scranton has some old and beautiful architecture that’s out of sync with the buildings around it. I live nearby, I would use the word decay to describe it here

[@goose33]

Yes and I got a dark feeling when I came there but absolutely weird imagery in downtown

[@damnyankeesdaughter5427]

@@goose33 you get about a 50/50 mix here of the predator/prey species if you know what I mean. But there are many good people

[@JustMe-te8cz]

Wood that is gilded often cracks because of different expansion rates. Soft copper gilds best.

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

1902 is right. Im from marysville. I love my towns history. Rockville replaced a old covered bridge that the mini statue of liberty proudly sits on a pillar now.. marysville was planned to be a huge city.. railroad really screwed marysville, which used to me named Haley, pa

[@michaeltreacy6356]

Buildings that are built at the height of a civilization rather than its establishment.

[@cjtrickstar6060]

Ask and you shall receive! Born and raised in hbg and you showed me some sites I never knew were here. Good video and thx for taking my request 😊

[@oldworldex]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@cjtrickstar6060]

@@oldworldex fyi, Dauphin is pronounced just like the fish around here.

[@cjtrickstar6060]

@oldworldex if you are looking for more ideas Lancaster city would fit. Older than Hbg with plenty of history. I think it was the capital of the US for a short time.

[@WorthyistheLambRev1]

Millennial Reign of Christ before Satan was loosed again to deceive, and the Controllers tore or burned them down. Rev 20: 7. Which is where we are!

[@daydreamersailing4143]

Father Malachi Martin, author of 16 NY Times Best selling Books, said, in a 1992 interview that according to church documents, Christ's Millennial Rein already happened it ended between the 17th and 18th century and these buildings are remants of it. Please refer to the 10 minute mark of the 1992 interview... kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5fJiGuodrhonMk God Bless you and those who seek truth!

[@PossibleCinema]

God bless you for finding this little gem.@@daydreamersailing4143

[@heidiesterholm2938]

Thank you.

[@JustMe-te8cz]

Abe Lincoln died on April 15, 1865.

[@johnbarnas879]

The PA State Archive Building might be a landing pad for starships.

[@Kevin-ho7wp]

Dig the intrO 🦾💥〽️🚀

[@JustMe-te8cz]

US population in 1850 was approximately 25 million. Population who were slaves was approximately 3.5 million. Population of asylums was approximately 11 million. Population in prisons was reported as less than 7000. About half of the Population were possibly not confined in some way ...

[@pinkiesue849]

Weird statistics

[@cheryl8572-e4j]

@@pinkiesue849Very!

[@pennychandler3059]

Where are the lost or hidden writings/diaries of the people incarcerated in the asylums or those who managed to remain undetected for a time? A strange thought, but it keeps arising.

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

Check out " Who and When Invented Sash Windows " , another old world civilization mystery topic maybe ?

[@brianfreeman5208]

As a native of East Pennsboro Township, Cumberland County, home of the Enola Railroad Yards…I can assure you that the Rockville bridge WAS built in 1902. And the construction photo IS real. There are many more photos showing the construction. The Pennsylvania Railroad were master builders. As for the State of Liberty, or Miss Liberty, in the Susquehanna, she was originally made of long glass door window blinds. By the way, some of your old photos of PA’s capital builder were prior to the fire that destroyed the Capitol building. As for overall design and architecture, you seem to forget that Central Pennsylvania was populated by immigrants from Germans and Welsh. Master builders and architects.

[@oldworldex]

same old story...doesn't matter where...same story. CAPSLOCK isn't enough to stop me from questioning the narrative...but thanks for watching.

[@brianfreeman5208]

@@oldworldex with all due respect sir, at no point in my message to you did I use cap locks. I was offering additional information that maybe you don’t know coming from a native who grew up next to the railroad and went to school with kids whose parents worked on the railroad. I’m sorry that you missed, took that I used Caplock and obviously came at me direct. I was helping I thought, but apparently in your view I’m not. Obviously you’re not from Enola Pennsylvania

[@brianfreeman5208]

@@oldworldexass hole

[@oldworldex]

WAS ......capslock. Read your first message again.@@brianfreeman5208

[@pauljohnstone8989]

Love the only way ❤❤❤

[@expiringplanet]

If you look South Africa it is even a worse coverup. Look at City Hall in Pietermaritzburg in Kwa-zulu Natal, then check the net info. To built this and all the standard bank buildings with similar styles and bricks all over the show with horses and ox wagons, the Brits must have landed here with high-tech stuff to do this so quick!

[@pinkiesue849]

You mean the Dutch

[@expiringplanet]

The city Hall was designed by a Brit, R. STREET-WILSON and completed in 1893 after the British took control in 1843. The Dutch people were not much involved in Natal. British military involvement in Natal began in December 1838, but was sporadic and confined to the coast until 1842.@@pinkiesue849

[@kentkearney6623]

16:14 Garp

[@amegorica8902]

The PA state capitol WOW

[@tbone5658]

I would love to learn more about the asylums and the narrative behind them. Maybe a whole video dedicated to that alone?

[@jonathanbutler3833]

I recommend seeing what you can find on your own first. Some of it is better to process alone and in silence… heres a lead, many people woke up after a night of drinking in an asylum, seems to have been incentive for law enforcement to take them to the asylum instead of jail, also scour comment sections on asylum videos, thats where people share their individual family stories that were never documented/censored

[@rzella8022]

@@jonathanbutler3833 So are you saying they were much like the USSR Communist gulags they sent dissidents to by the millions?

[@cheryl8572-e4j]

Very good ideas!

[@goose33]

Its crazy bc if you go in this building then the wilkes barre courthouse its almost a carbon copy Just crazy

[@wapartist]

Fun fact. The glam band Poison is from here. Not Hollywood haha

[@JamieCrain5349]

That has to be the fanciest YMCA😮!!!!

[@drewduncan3436]

👍👍😊👋

[@lechatleblanc]

❤❤❤❤❤😊.

[@pascalschacher6971]

I believe in the Bible and in Jesus Christ. And I thinck we can't build these kind of wonderfull Buildings cause we are a Godless Society ruled by Godless People serving satan. Its impossible without having love, to make this. And the only one that can make a Human able to truly love is Jesus Christ. We need Jesus Christ, he is the Way to the Vather. We don't care for Anything but Ourselfs these Days. The People of this Old World cared for each other. And they put Soul in the Things they did, build Houses not just for the next Paycheck, but with Inspiration that came from their strong Bound to God. I don't know how it got to the Point that it was destroyed but i can imagine they were falling away from serving the Lord and worrshiped themselfs as we do today, so the Lord let them and the Old World fall into the Hands of Evil People. And they managed to somehow destroy everything. Or God himself did it like he did with Sodom and Gomorrah, or like in the Days of Noah, Babylon. Thats wath i thinck about all this. Or wath i imagine happend.

[@oldworldex]

I agree that these were built with love. Every aspect was cared about and mattered.

[@daydreamersailing4143]

Father Malachi Martin, author of 16 NY Times Best selling Books, said, in a 1992 interview that according to church documents, Christ's Millennial Rein already happened it ended between the 17th and 18th century and these buildings and old world structures are remants of it. Please refer to the 10 minute mark of the 1992 interview... kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5fJiGuodrhonMk God Bless you and those who seek truth!

[@DocJones0429]

Maybe the Polish style architecture at the end is due to the large amount of Polish who emigrated to Pennsylvania…

[@angela-ti1np]

Why are those photos of the North or South Office Buildings being built suspicious to you? They are twin buildings that were built one right after the other around 1920 so I don't know exactly which one that is but I don't get what is concerning you.

[@DocJones0429]

I work at the Harrisburg Capitol. This is a very bad explanation of its construction … but interesting theory!

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

So when do you think it was built, and by who? Just curious as to why the need for a created narrative

[@Pokemoncountry151]

The whole questioning the narrative thing is a bit strange to me. All of these buildings have detailed information available about who built them and when. The Tartarian theory is laughably stupid. I'm not suggesting you believe in that BTW. I'm just interested to know your opinion on questioning the narrative. This style of architecture was popular at the time. Beautiful architecture at that.

[@MyDarren13]

You build it then. With the same resources - horse carts Tools Lifting equipment Try getting a quote from a builder today

[@oldworldex]

You think it's strange to question the narrative? I do know a lot of people who approach life with that same attitude...but all it gets you in the end is blind faith in authority and contempt for anyone that dares to ask why. The eyes are useless when the mind is blind.

[@Pokemoncountry151]

@oldworldex yes, questioning this particular narrative is strange. These buildings are all documented with plenty of information to confirm their construction by who and when. I suppose you think the Singer building was also not built by US? Or perhaps the Hungarian parliament, both more elaborate and ornate than anything in this video. No, it was the Moors, no definitely Tartaria, lol. Cmon.

[@oldworldex]

You've looked into all 'these buildings' then? Lol. Cmon.@@Pokemoncountry151

[@Pokemoncountry151]

@oldworldex so you ignore my question. Yes, I've looked into historical records of Harrisburg and others. You can do the same. You can even get the names of the companies, the owners and some of the workers who constructed these buildings. Go for it. Or you can buy the bs that "they were already here", or "it was the moors", or even dumber, "the Tartarian empire". Greco-Roman architecture was the build of the day, not some conspiracy.

[@bugman7579]

not basement windows mud flooded

[@brianmac8260]

3D Printed by an advanced A.I.

[@jessemorehead8617]

At 10:20 that building is the forum part of the Capitol complex

[@OctavianXCII]

Bruh, some smooth brained takes.. But enjoy the pictures

[@oldworldex]

I'd rather be smooth than bumpy..

[@chendo627]

we didnt build those

[@ryanopfer6845]

scratch the music dude. this is not like a magical moment or anything. your commentary is adequate.

[@oldworldex]

I had that thought. I like a little background music though. Ambience. Maybe I should take a poll?

[@SimonHaestoe]

Agreed. Makes it feel less credible somehow, and also it takes from the magic of the buildings. Feels a bit manipulative (even though that wasn't the intention, I'm sure).

[@cheryl8572-e4j]

@@oldworldexI like it :)

[@jacksiscavage6265]

Propergation centers

[@angela-ti1np]

You just keep babbling about the 'narrative' and 'asking questions'. What narrative? What questions?

[@wailwoader1873]

Deface.