Old World Utica NY

The origins of insanity...complete with asylums for orphans, homes for boys and the elderly.
links can all be found on wikipedia..

[@mamawolfmemories]

I live about 40 minutes from Utica what a treat thank you! I’ve been wanting to do an old world tour of the city now you made it easier to do can look a lot of these places up! Thanks again!

[@oldworldex]

Thanks for watching!

[@cathychilders5109]

The size of the Insane Asylum was massive. IMO, thats where they put all the adults who wouldn’t comply and put the children in the orphanage. Lots of impressive buildings in this episode.

[@hawaiiguykailua6928]

Orphans were the trap, that's how they figured out how to keep us here. My guess, people were like F you I'm not cleaning this mud out and paying rent for a building you found. Controllers had to give people a reason for staying in this new prison, so they made us humunculous babies and we're still digging out that friggin mud today.

[@dergutehut3961]

Thats where they put all the adults with whatever was diagnozed as mental problems. That has nothing to do with compliance. We have WAY more people sitting in psychatric hospitals today..and for some odd reason nobody thinks that they are there becaue they remember a "reset". And why are the buildings so massive? Because they are the only ones of their kind..duh! If you have a mental instituion in almost every city...(like today) you don't NEED that gigantic buildings. But if one mental institution has to cover for 100 000 of people because it is the only one in a large area...than obviously you buit them bigger. A town I lived in had about 10 000 people but a hospital for special head injuries that was massive. Why? Well..because this kind of treatment is only possible there and people from all over the country if not the world come here. And that was the case for Asylums in the 19th century. Also...a lot more conditions where diagnozed as insanity or treated by locking people away.

[@telemachus7732]

I like your thoughtful presentation. You don’t hurry us through.

[@Kat.Evangeline]

Soothing voice & music with amazing photos ❤

[@crossthreading8157]

You could do 5-6 videos from that part of New York and finger lakes area. There’s plenty of old world from that area. Watkins glen with the waterfalls and the stone stairs in the gorge.

[@JaeKidd101]

As a native, I can tell you I was blown away by how amazing the structures USED to be. A common confusion is the Cornell college thing... that's in ITHACA, NY, not Utica lol

[@Em-vp2ot]

I grew up in Utica NY and about 7 years ago some of my buddies and I went to the insane asylum at night time, it’s massive and we were just roaming around, we came across a lot of creepy things and we believe still that we had encountered a demon and some spirits that night.

[@CH-so8tn]

I am both amazed and sickened by this world. The constant lying about our history is something I just can't comprehend.

[@SybilKibble]

agreed, and I live in Utica.

[@jennoor3105]

These companies were just coming up. The money they have today wasn't anywhere near what it took to build these buildings. By the early 1900's these buildings were destroyed? After all the "work" it would take to build them Really?

[@jennoor3105]

Math doesn't math on any of this?

[@jasondoe6079]

lying about literally everything.

[@graciemaemarie11jones16]

amazing food from utica....tomato pie....half moons....pusties....greens....

[@carlwalker9635]

Your doing great work, and are making a valuable contribution to the recovery of our memories. May I suggest a possible video? Have you considered making a video on the old world Secret Societies buildings in America? Meaning, in many of your videos, you have pointed out buildings of the Scottish Rite, Odd Fellows, Elks club, Eagles club, etc. Hence, a video concentrating on these organization's old, repurposed building's would open a door of the memory.

[@oldworldex]

Good idea..will start a file.

[@NewWestReset]

Excellent job as always. Happy Canada Day! Cheers!

[@curvebuster]

Some types of buildings across the Flat Plane, even here in NZ. 😮

[@barkeater9606]

My grandmother was from Utica, NY. She worked at the Savage Arms factory during WW2. She made the Thompson sub machine guns. I was also in the National Guard HHC 2/108th Infantry in Utica. I always thought that building was out of place. There is a indoor rifle range on the second floor, but we never used it.

[@snakeeateerrrrr]

they recently destroyed the Savage arms factory right?

[@MrBlueSky1978]

In the Jon Levi video on Tacoma there is a replica of the Old City Hall as shown here at 16 minutes and 25 seconds in 🙂

[@panatypical]

When I took up the piano later in life, I realized the limitations my hands had as a result of working at hard labor for a number of years. I also appreciated how hand and finger size contributed to playing ability. One of the things that gave me pause was when I read about Mozart playing with accomplishment from the age of six. Not even with hands that were larger than most six-year-olds. No way. Just a clumsy lie to be able to assign more of the output to fewer people and conceal the actual composers of the old world culture.

[@jthepickle7]

Maybe, but I've seen some tiny piano proteges who just knock your socks off! - even with their little hands. But you're right; so much is assigned to so few.

[@dergutehut3961]

Mozart started playing the Piano when he was 4...so you can expect him to be good at it. He played a Hammerflügel from Walter. This Piano is relatively easy to play because you don't need that much force to push the keys. The downside of that is that those old Piaonos are way more quiet..but that wasn't a problem since you had smaller concert halls in general and most music was palyed inside Salons or peoples living rooms. So...no...Mozart is not a lie..and we have no reason to doubt that he wrote his own songs (even if his Dad might have helped a bit with his very early work). His main JOB was composing..so he had a lot of time to do that. I don't know why you think he should have a significantly smaller output. Even today we have plenty of muscicians who wrote 1000 of songs. Most of Mozarts output did not happen when he was a kid but when he was an adult anyway...when he was a kid...most of what he played where well known stuff from other artists. He wasn't even famous as composer but as a master piaono player. And since we still have Wonder Kids who can play the Piaono today...I don't know why you think any of his story is a lie.

[@Kat.Evangeline]

Agreed 👍 I took 6 years of piano & the only good thing going for me is that my hands are large & can reach 1 octave plus 1 key - but - no talent !

[@jameskernan4848]

The house of the Good Shepherd I believe started out as an orphanage but later, was another boys home then it served both boys and girls and is still operating to this day but don't quote me on this. Great video, I'm from the Utica area.

[@Chertoff88]

I grew up in Utica. It's a desolate drug and poverty addled wasteland. 60% of the city pays no taxes because they are either on welfare or elderly. Those who go to college leave as soon as they get their degrees because the few jobs that exist pay terrible. I should have left long before I did but am so thankful i made it out.

[@joesmith6524]

U forgot the word NOW in your comment!

[@pyrexmaniac]

It must have been because you are evidently a wise, compassionate, empathetic, forgiving, clear-eyed, non-judgemental realist humanitarian, right?

[@davidmarks5400]

I grew up in Utica in the 60's and 70's. I left on the usual dismal gray day Utica is famous for in 78. By then, most of the industry had already departed for more tax friendly states. I remember the "State Hospital" as it was called back in the day. Marcy,as I recall,was also known for its mental institutions.

[@voniich4826]

I really love your views on things listening to you talk and your opinions they make so much sense. It all does have a sinister feeling like you say.

[@jackmichael6860]

This is awesome ! I live in Ilion which is 20 mins away and home to Remington Arms Corp it would be so cool to see a video on Ilion

[@FredMcIntyre]

When I look these structures, with the exception of anything industrial or religious, I see pretty much just two different types of living structures, the apartment type of building (individual/small family living) and the mansions, schools, hotels, & hospitals being the other type of building (communal/large multigenerational family living) I would think that prior to the reset, without all of the ways they poison us today that we generally lived longer, and that many more families stayed together, running and operating family businesses as opposed to the corporations of today. Once the reset happened, a small group of families (let's just say about 13 of them) conspired to control the world, and wiped out the remaining large multigenerational families in order to not only start the reduction in family size and then the eventual destruction of the nuclear family, but their businesses as well, in order to create the corporate/slave system which we have now.

[@dergutehut3961]

There was no reset. We can literally see the development to larger stores and companies and can explain all of it with industrialization. And no...we did not live longer in the past. What created the "slave system" is not some hoodded evil-doers in their secret orders..but the social change that came with technological progress. Its all about machines. IF machines can produce things more effectively than craftsman than obviously only those who can afford big machines can create succesful production buisnesses.

[@Kat.Evangeline]

​@dergutehut3961 the Reset occurred before we - humans - of our height - arrived. The civilization who built this type of architecture must have been a lot taller & are unknown.

[@pyrexmaniac]

​@@Kat.Evangelinereally? Look at the few pictures that have people in them......they certainly weren't taller back then. Maybe, the height of these structures had more to do with the sytems for heating and ventilation were different than we have today.....or that lighting back then was either daylight or gaslight (there was no electricity back when most of these structures were built.) The height was to provide a lot of room for air circulation before electric fans and air conditioning were invented. The high windows meant more "daylight" because gaslight was not suitable for illuminating interior spaces.

[@Justarandomytmemechannel]

I mean, As a person who lives night next to Utica. I never though how the Stanley theater survived the Great Depression, I mean it was built one year before the 1929 stock market crash, I have never though how…

[@FloridaManRacer]

My great aunt was president of the Utica Bank. A lot of us just know it as the Gold Dome Bank. She passed away this last year at 93 years old. She was president of the bank in the 60's and 70's. And that's pretty special when you consider women didn't have the same status in the workforce back then...

[@nikkikrohl6]

I really enjoy the frequency of the music 🎶 playing

[@ghostcircuitry]

Now utica main attractions are Grand Canyon sized pot holes throughout the city.

[@jameskernan4848]

I worked at the library, man you have to see the inside; Majestic.

[@joyful_tanya]

I wonder if the parents were put in the insane asylums and they had to find care for the infants and children? Also the elderly because the younger "workers generation" were ⚰️ or locked up? Just asking questions. I think people who didn't want to "go along with it" were labeled insane. Kinda like today...

[@allenschmitz9644]

Thoroughly Moden Mille

[@dergutehut3961]

Orphans are a thing not because so many adults were put in asylums but because t here was war, poverty (and in some countries) mass immigration of extremely poor people. Urbanisation and the change of social structures also palyed a role.

[@josephsoto8294]

They were the truth-tellers of the day, the people that didn't buy or sell the okie doke.

[@joyful_tanya]

@@josephsoto8294 exactly. I agree with you. The people who said, "I am not going along with this garbage!"

[@joyful_tanya]

@@dergutehut3961 ok, what war? The civil war? Because we are talking about the 1800s. And how do we know the "history" about every single war is accurate? History is written by the winners, after all, and they can say whatever they want because the opponents are ⚰️. I am asking a lot of questions about what we've all been taught. Because from my reading and study, there was another reset right around the "civil war". Quite possibly it was the uprising against it.

[@wesmann65]

With pics of these old towns we don’t know which came first. This could be the first Utica.

[@JamtracksCreator-lq1nq]

It's on the Erie canal route. But the Mohawk river was why it was founded where it was. Genesee St is an old Indian trail.

[@M3TaGh0sStT]

All these places are all along I-88 as well, and to me one of those most beautiful and picturesque parts of NY/New England, esp in the fall.

[@brianwebber6996_ROADHUNTER]

Food, water, shelter, oxygen, sunshine...The Most High provides it all...with a little bit of elbow grease and community and we could all be living the dream!!

[@jennoor3105]

Yet the Pyramid is always in question as to who and how it was built? In the book Pillars of the Earth it took decades to build cathedrals. Are we to now believe it only took a few years to build stone buildings and complete these elaborate interiors? Absolutely not!!

[@SheilaTaylor-ok1lk]

I read that book. Yeah, it took decades to build. 😮

[@Echo-xf8op]

Very nice , i got here in 1999 and it's improving little

[@bluevireo425]

So many insane asylums.....there is also one in the Nearby city of Rome NY...Why? I used to be terrified by it as my Mother would always point it out as we traveled to the Mountains in the Summer. Why so many Asylums?

[@SybilKibble]

It may have been the State School. It's where NYS sent the special needs kids to school before integrating them. My grandmother was a supervisor there

[@josephsoto8294]

For the people that were the truth-tellers of the day, the people that didn't buy or sell the okie doke.

[@bluevireo425]

@@josephsoto8294 Thanks, maybe you could elaborate on what the 'Okey Doke" is sometimes I'm a little thick headed. :)

[@josephsoto8294]

@@bluevireo425 I suppose you could say it's just a colloquial way of saying, "to accept a BS story, by going along with it, or even repeating it as truth".

[@josephsoto8294]

@@bluevireo425 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWWTdmWKls6Cg5I

[@shendricks4060]

Recently discovered that my great-grandmother died in an insane asylum at the North Dakota State Hospital in Jamestown, ND. Could not find much history prior since Omemee, ND is a ghost town. I wonder about the Bottineau Co area of ND. Would love to see a ND episode.

[@BostonFreakFlag]

In New England , Tradesman call the roof cones "witches hats" . I don't know if that's worth anything . Love the content bud .

[@bluevireo425]

Well, my comment was removed by KZbin for whatever reason! Going to try to write it again. I used to live in Utica some 30 years ago and recognize the Graveyard entrance at 11:00...I spent a lot of time there observing the monuments and walking around it as it has incredible artwork...and landscaping. I often took the train and was astounded by the beauty of train station...always wondering and pondering the interior that did not make sense and the wood ticket booths added as an afterthought to the design...not fitting the scale of the building at all and built half covering some of the huge windows. I also did a small amount of research into this building and there are almost no pictures of its construction. There are some in the early 1900 with scaffolding with the building already constructed. The picture of the men at the top in front of the circular clock opening is suspect because when you look at the rest of the building it is very old with staining and wear and tear. The windows looking broken out and blackened. This actual eagle edifice was refurbished and changed slightly from the photo before they put the clock in and looks better today than it did in the photograph some hundred years ago! Weirdly they spent Millions in the so called construction of this building only to build it accidentally facing the wrong way (huh?)...and it was supposed to be the railroad central hub for the "EMPIRE STATE" hmmmmmm but, they changed their mind and made it NYC. (This is their story). The image at 24:46 reveals the beautiful Elm Trees that used to line the streets of both Utica and Syracuse. They were wiped out in the 70's by Dutch Elm Disease.

[@jennoor3105]

In the book Pillars of the Earth, it took decades to build Cathedrals. You can't build the buildings in these clips in 3 or 4 years!!!!

[@jumpingship3001]

What you said about Mozart knocked me over. I never questioned that. Damm

[@oldworldex]

It needs a deep dive..

[@shazoz77]

Music changed with the reset. Devils trichord appeared. Reset was a consciousness reset as the electromagnetic fields of information changed polarity. Or something...

[@oldworldex]

@@shazoz77 You're definitely onto something..

[@grantrodgers2470]

Just buildings before The Great Flood.Dont make a mountain out of a mole hill.

[@marksnyder7314]

Montrose, Colorado Thank You.

[@Gold_gyrl]

Wonderful!

[@gulfy09]

Very nice thanks

[@nomadclan3604]

Thank you for this. I live about an hour and a half away in Harpursville, NY another town named by Mr Harpur. Check out the NY State Inebriate Asylum in Binghamton, NY, definitely old world.

[@jennoor3105]

We questioned the building of the Pyramid how about what you are showing? Good work!!

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

old world tuning switched from 432Hz to 440Hz.

[@pierremchughes9917]

Really? .....unsubbed

[@hereiam2942]

Can you explain what you mean, please.

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

Music guitar tuning

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

@@hereiam2942 string instruments Tuning pitch was changed to current Hertz 440 which is not original frequency for music.

[@hereiam2942]

@@scottbaker-ScottyB Thanks for the response.

[@tabbycatt6076]

Born here !!

[@EP...]

So funny how they dated buildings around this era........we don't do it anymore....and they never did it in ancient times either. Janus and his wicked ways ( j900's )

[@ourmeltedreality8731]

Great stuff man. The “truth” we are given is actually “fiction”. Everything seems to be inverted and opposite from reality.

[@pyrexmaniac]

Good grief.

[@TheMightycfc]

Is it not strange the older buildings are twice as beautiful as the new that gold dome bank

[@badboyspats4778]

Possibly the asylums also served as a form of welfare for people, (for whatever reason), who were unable to support themselves.

[@1939Don]

What is the authors point or message he is trying to convey in this video presentation?? Does not make any sense. As a former resident of Utica Area (New York Mills and Burrstone Road area 1950s) reccognize many of the buildings shown.

[@oldworldex]

I am he. Check out more of my stuff if you want more context...if not, that's fine too. I appreciate you watching..

[@oldworldex]

@@larrywaynehoughton3890 That's a big question. Construction timelines, material availability at the time, technology at the time, population at the time(skilled hands available). These are just some of the factors that cast doubt on the official narrative. I think we're looking at a completely falsified historical timeline that paints the powers that should not be in a more favourable light. There is a lot to get into, check out more if you're interesting, and thanks for watching

[@oldworldex]

@@larrywaynehoughton3890 It's the documentation I don't trust.

[@pyrexmaniac]

Double eye-roll. Please, oh wise one, explain pre-colonial times, or, perhaps explain what alternatives might be viable if history is, as Henry Ford (supposedly) once proclaimed, "is bunk."

[@ThatBoiDurrr]

Dude gets all his info from Wikipedia and wonders why there's missing details

[@jasontorres7756]

Perhaps the Knights Templars were coming before Columbus and were building some of these structures, apparently Prince Henry Sinclair led two expeditions to the Northeast of America from what I recall, the second one had many ships and settlers. They may have built the Newport Tower in Rhode Island.

[@dergutehut3961]

The Templars did not come to America before Columbus and they didn't built like that.

[@jasontorres7756]

@@dergutehut3961 You're wrong, they did, Prince Henry Sinclair came in the late 1300's to the Nova Scotia area and beyond perhaps. In Rosslyn Chapel in Scotland there are depictions of flora/fruits from the Americas. The Templars are known for their impressive edifices

[@dergutehut3961]

@@jasontorres7756 I wouldn't say it is impossible that some Scotsman discovered Nova Scotia...but it is not very likely Henry did it. There are no contemporary sources about that (which is always a red flag)...the earliest mentioning of a sea traveler I was able to find was in the 16th century..when the Americas were already known. And even that source doesn't talk about the Commander of the Templar but about some guy..who was just identifed as Henry later. But even if we assume that Henry did disover the Americas...that still doesn't help with the claim that any of the buildings we see here was built by him or his decendents. IF a Templar from the 1300s would go to America he would obviously built in the style and with the technology of the 1300s and not 1900s. NONE of that stuff in the video looks like it was built by Templars. Also..the chapel in question was not built by Templars..and we don't even know if the plants depicted are supposed to be Corn. Also..we don't need Templars to explain any of the buildings in North America, plus there were no Templar settelemnts or buildings when Columbus arrived about 100 years later..or at least no records of any European finding them. And the idea that the Templars just discovered a new continent and didn't used it is very questionable. Again...we have no records about such a discovery or Templars bringing home treasures or introducing new fruits or corps. And one could assume that the locals in America would remember people with Horses or Shining armor. So again..we know for a fact that Europeans before Columbus been to the Americas..but that was at a time when the technological gap between both continents were much smaller. I'd say that Indians and Vikings were relatively equally matched when it cames to warfare but the Templars should have had no problem to subjugate the local Natives with their weapons and armor. So after losing most of their posessions in Europe we could expect them to trying to conquer the Americas if they were known..but we don't see any attempts of that. Neither the Templar nor the Indians remember such events and neither metalurgy nor horses were known to the locals nor any European customs. And we DO find seettlements and even genetic traces from the much earlier Viking contacts, even if that was far longer ago than the supposed templar journey. But regardless of the question wether or not Templars discovered America before Columbus...we have no reason to assume that the Templars would be responsible for 18 and 19th century builidngs in N.Y. state

[@TheMightycfc]

We got a town under a lake up here too

[@oldworldex]

interesting

[@jjvigilante]

All of these buildings and set up of these settlements evoke negative gloomy depressing feelings in me for some unknown reasons.

[@joesmith6524]

Its a state asylum,so people from all over went there it wasnt just Utica residents!

[@user-wp9jd4me3i]

Statue name of ? Does anyone knows i always wanted to know especially im born from uitca but i never knew the name if that statue

[@NatureBoy711]

totally unrelated.... so , what do you think of titan sub? do you know why i am asking you this question?

[@oldworldex]

haven't followed...you have a theory?

[@NatureBoy711]

@@oldworldex yt is deleting my comments.... tsk,

[@NatureBoy711]

its fake... !

[@NatureBoy711]

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[@NatureBoy711]

be sure to read all the comments. you will realize the real truth..... they have edited our histories . roman empire never existed.... they have this power .... to lockdown the whole world !

[@stevewhite7426]

Take a look at the “flatiron” in little Watkins Glen, NY!

[@tossr4716]

Great stuff brother

[@craighandzel6936]

Did you google “Utica” and present this video ? Ever been there ? Try a pastry

[@fionaodowney6116]

re: the Olbiston: I suspect you are wrong about the demolition, re: the Gold Dome Bank: do your research: These types of domes were popular during that time period. Re: the Kan a tenah: again do your research. The building burned in 1994.

[@oldworldex]

you seem offended....no need to be.

[@pyrexmaniac]

​@@oldworldexthere is reason to be offended if one is well-versed in any of the topics that this channel seems to present in a sort of "justified disbelief," the only justification being the ignorance of it's producer.

[@doubblej1]

Just the name of the banks is enough. (Citizen Trust). Come on man. We have trusted too long.

[@peteosco]

House of the Good Shepard was an orphanage.

[@chrisbrommer275]

Have you noticed the "number 1" at the beginning of the date carved for the completion of the structure? That isn't a 1. It is more like an I or j.... But not a 1. If you compare w one dated w an actual 1, there will be the I or j looking symbol and 3 numbers. Face it... Something horrible happened and we don't even know what the date is. Wishing I knew......

[@welcomehomeme5799]

Drop a 13 Colonies - Pre 1776 and Post if you can

[@TheMightycfc]

Inside the stanley theater very ornate check it out

[@ccffire6666]

experts historians Scholars people that love the history of Utica New York they all know the answers from Studies books true information of people that witnessed and lived at the time that wrote these books what is been written in the books is from Facts of people who lived and witnessed everything in history of Utica New York that is all facts on those books written by people that were there that witness that are long gone for more information on this for people that want to know just contact Joe Kelly

[@Tzmla]

I live near utica

[@auntlinda7132]

⭐👍

[@davedamien735]

The reason we had so many mentally insane back then... no different then today. They are just out in pubic and not in asylums. That is my guess.

[@fionaodowney6116]

I am from Utica and your comments are just bizarre. My family has been here since 1845. What planet do you live on anyhow? The House of the Dead Shepard???? That's the House of the Good Shepard. I think you should fine another line of work, historical videos are not your forte.

[@oldworldex]

This isn't my line of work....just shedding light on some dark corners. Thanks for watching, I encourage you to check out a couple other locations.

[@pyrexmaniac]

​@@oldworldextell us all about these dark corners.....Im on the edge of my seat.....

[@TheMightycfc]

I can see 1 of those out my window

[@TheMightycfc]

There been putting obelstein back together but the new spires look stupid

[@SheilaTaylor-ok1lk]

Ever one of these structures have a Roman touch

[@bilcoferentine3567]

The parents were put in the wards.

[@jasondoe6079]

Cornell is in Ithaca, NY not Utica. Wow lot of structures noone ever paid/gave any attention to even in history classes. Something is very much wrong about our history narrative. Dont forget Munson WIlliams Art museum. Almost makes me want to go back and do some hometown investigation. Almost.

[@allenschmitz9644]

Guns, screws, and lets make standards?

[@Em-vp2ot]

I was so sad to hear that that apartment building located on Genesee Street will be getting bulldozed, it brings so much history to the area the same with everything else but the county used that poor building for a long time as a place for crackheads to live and it’s severely damaged and infested with bugs and roaches

[@pyrexmaniac]

History? What's that? This channel tells us to doubt history.

[@scottbaker-ScottyB]

Wanted : Brick maker for the world. No experience needed !

[@allenschmitz9644]

Dont forgit a ton of brick layers..not a fun job.

[@maggiemae7539]

People will absolutely believe anything! Brick making has been going on for 1000s of years!

[@aarongerwig2050]

Newspaper clipping and ,,,,, if you happen to dig something up in your mom's back yard,,,. Call the Smithsonian, were rich!

[@pyrexmaniac]

Why does Amariah Brigham strike one as "curious and suspicious"??? Why is it curious? What's suspicious about it? The denunciation of documented history....with some parts undocumented (mostly details and unimportant minutiae) makes no sense when one offers no alternative information/explanation. What are you suggesting by referencing "the old world?" Of course, the architecture of the early colonies up until the early 20th century, there really was no alternative to old world European architecture in the Americas. I sense that the narrator, referring to "old world" is hinting at something other than what written history instructs us. 100-150 years was not that long ago. I was born in the 1960s and my paternal grandmother was born in 1887. "Our memory has been erased"...????? Why am i listening to this claptrap bs? It's evident why Utica's psyche hospital was so massive......to fill with folks divorced from reality. "We all know we cant trust what the media says because the hidtory have is through a bunch of old newspaper clippings...."???? SMH. I give up. Has the narrator never heard of or used a library? It's a big place with books on things like history. I assume that this production was created by somebody who never learned the basicsxof research or theology. Saying that "these small cities..." in reference to the number of theaters, etc...is utter lunacy. These were not "small" cities, by any means. The population of the US in the 1890 was only 62 million....a mere sixth of the current population. These suggestions to "question everything" is why Education is so highly valued, as the cost of no education is ignorance, both willful and unintended.

[@oldworldex]

Yes I am hinting at something other than what written history instructs us. Your panic here tells me more than any picture could. With recorded history the question to ask is: who is doing the recording and through what lens? To question everything is to think critically. I would argue that as the information age proceeds, a formal education becomes less valuable and in fact only provides a narrow perspective riddled with ego traps.

[@Terrysteele401]

It’s all Greek. The native Americans spoke Greek.

[@pyrexmaniac]

Latin, actually.

[@dergutehut3961]

If you DO look on the population charts, and except them as more or less accurate , than every idea of some "reset" is off the table..since we see steadily growing numbers of people. Unless of course you think that reset happened in the 1970ties..but not even you are THAT crazy...right? Also...have you ever considered. that your expectations about what should and shouldn't exist in what time period are just very very wrong? The size of building we do see DOES match the time and place perfectly. Seeing big commerce or bureau buildings is pretty much what (norma) people would expect of a fast growing town with over 50 000 people in it..an the style is typical for that time. And high buidings serve a simple purpose (beside looking impressive) You don't have to buy that much land. So if you want to have a lot of space in a inner city without buying much land (because of high prizes, because of the whole "fast growing thing" ) you can just built higher houses. HIgher houses were also seen as novelty at that time and symbolized the USAs rise to an industrial juggernaut..so a city who wanted to add prestige tried t o built this type of buildings. And why doesnt it make "sense for its purpose". Banks want to showcase wealth (since if your bank goes broke thats bad for you.)..and in case you haven't seen any modern banks...that is STILL the case. Turns out investors are less likely to put their money in a bank that operates from some sad looking dumb. And why don't you take the birds eye view and look for those 1900s buildings that you think existed for ages. Let me guess we WON'T see them on the map or any other map..which brings us back to the point that assuming a building is older without having ANY records of it before its building date isn't that bright.

[@oldworldex]

Hey Der I love it when you pop in...I may be dumb and crazy....but the good kind of dumb and crazy...

[@dergutehut3961]

@@oldworldex Even If I might have said it (infact I just said it a minute ago) I don't think you are dumb or crazy. I just think you are criminally uniformed about the topic you make videos about...and for some reason allergic to simple answers to the questions you ask.

[@ThatBoiDurrr]

@@dergutehut3961 This dude gets his info from Wikipedia. He clearly has a lack of research skills and common sense

[@dergutehut3961]

@@ThatBoiDurrr So what research debunks the points I made? Because...for some reason ..the people who do professional research are the people whose opninion people like you love to dismiss the fastet. And to be clear...watching the vidoes of people who have very obvioullsy done no research themselves (which is why they can't even answer the simple question how we got so many orphans at that time and place) does NOT count as research.

[@anonsforever_]

Walmart destroyed our city. So did criminals and bad ideas from our leaders. Why ever get rid of the Erie canal, just that alone was absurd to me. 😢

[@jimdep6542]

Agree...........look how much better and safer Utica was as a whole back when Bagg's Square was going strong. Canal boats were going through the downtown instead of the thug gangs they've got now.

[@pyrexmaniac]

The Erie Canal still exists in it's entirety, fyi.

[@anonsforever_]

@@pyrexmaniac Actually you are wrong. There are photos of the Erie canal going right through the city of Utica NY. Only a small section of the canal was saved in Rome NY. It has become a reenactment grounds. People go there to learn about the canal and also watch actors pretend to be living in the past. It is a fun time for the family.

[@anonsforever_]

@@pyrexmaniac It's okay you are wrong though, most people are about everything. They believe in their God or Allah so that's why they never research anything. They smoke meth at the churches that's why. Has nothing to do with your age at all. I bet you are 40 something years old. Grow up.

[@allanrecknall119]

Dude you really need to do the homework on lots of the information you offer. The house of good sheperd is for kids at risk. From crummy homes abused and ignored. They offer normal life to the kids. City hall was designed by a famous arctitect . no changes were made. Do your work right bud

[@timebong8366]

Them insane asylums were for people like you and me

[@oldworldex]

Truth.

[@dergutehut3961]

@@oldworldex That as true.

[@SheilaTaylor-ok1lk]

Hey, there were a lot of them. Barely any today compared to back then. 🤔

[@dergutehut3961]

​@@SheilaTaylor-ok1lk Its the other way around. Today we have WAY WAY WAY more places for people we want to lock away for mental reasons. Right now my country has up to 150 different clinics. Now guess what happens if you only have 1-3 per country. Wouldn't it be reasonable to make those much larger if they had to cover for so many people? The treatment is more decentralized...so there are small flats where people with disabilites live with room-mates and care takers. We also can take care of more case ambulant, because we have psychatrists and psychologists all over the place. Both wasn't the case in the 19th century where this was still a rare profession, and the entire science was in its infant shoes. Today we have a varierty of therapies...back in the days...locking people up was pretty much the only solution. Plus there were far more instances of cases that were labled serious enough to require such treatment. For example: hysteria..which was basically if the husband decided that his women was bitching to much. Or homosexuality or depression, or any form of mental disability, eating isorders, halliciunation, or trauma and loads of stuff we would never treat by isolating the patient and putting them in a giant hospital with other people. So with less people being treated and more hosptials and alternative methods available..it only makes sense why our "Asylums" are n ot giant complexes. One thing CAN and MUST be said about the early psychologist..in lack of other therpaies they DID remember a core principle about human moods..we do feel better if we are surrounded by beatiful and relaxing views...something like a romantic castle or a nice park..and thats why those early Asylsums were mostly built in the (already prominent and often otherwise used style) of historicism or something that makes those hospitals look presentable. Keep in mind that administrative buildings used to be way more representative...or to put it simpler..governmetns and other builders spent a lot more money to make their buildigns look nice..or at least were a lot more sucesful in doing that. If you wanna know why that stopped, check out the modernist revolution.

[@timebong8366]

@@SheilaTaylor-ok1lk if you start seeing them building them again watch out lol