Oldest Trails, Newest Tech | GMBN Rides The AMFLOW PL

[@gmbn]

What do you think of the AMFLOW PL?

[@rusty2222]

I think a £9000 mountain bike is a problem.

[@wm05eb]

I think £5999 for the base model is more than fair…. Placed my order already 😂💪🏻💪🏻

[@rip.tear.]

@@rusty2222 dude they have a £5999 bike too, the top of the range of anything is not designed to be good value. Luxury goods are usually not good value, god knows how much a top-of-the-range Rolex would cost in their most expensive version.

[@bigshnitzeljesse]

@gmbn loses its luster with a Chinese government owned company making it

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

It's nice. I really hate the name tho 😂

[@KevinT3141]

Beautiful trail system, thanks for showing it to us!

[@gmbn]

Thank you for watching! What did you think of the Amflow?

[@KevinT3141]

@@gmbn Looks nice, feature packed, but I'd be a little nervous about how new and unproven DJI is in this space.

[@gmbn]

That is an interesting point, only time will tell!

[@pauliepunk_1]

Its nice to see constructive comments instead of gatekeeper negativity. If you hate on emtbs because you don't like them its not really a good look.

[@stevendavis5746]

15.26 your glasses popped off yea head, I can’t believe the same thing happened to me on Saturday ! Good old Rapha 🔨

[@Nomads_Rowing]

Wow, you guys are really flogging the AMFlow having had three videos, so far, on EMBN with Mr Jones and now GMBN going full guns with an equally polished video although Neil was sent to an excellent old school trail centre in Wales, Steve took a crew and more drones to sing its praises in Europe. As I have pointed out in the comments on EMBN, a bit of transparency wouldn’t go amiss considering the input put in with AMFlow pre-production never gets mentioned since …….. 🙄

[@vincentgauci6775]

Sams bikes and rob rides ebikes amongst others also doing the same, they have all had the bike for some time before the launch I imagine

[@tomjoyce6365]

I think that it’s just the case that a company from outside the industry was far more technologically advanced due to them having to concentrate on power and weight in drone design and manufacturing and that you can copy geometry.

[@lucamuller6729]

Good to see alternatives to bosch and shimano systems!

[@Rustyfox46]

Not interested in the bike. But the trails at CYB are one of the best in the UK. We need to support the centre and the surroundings 👊🏻

[@TrailRevel]

My comments with a link to article about issues currently facing CyB trails (and otheres managed by NRW) keep getting removed No links allowed? Go to Singletrackworld and search Coed Y Brenin to find out more.

[@TC-hl1ws]

How are the plastic gears going to hold up over time? Please, revisit the durability of this motor 6 months from now.

[@AL-sd5cs]

@@TC-hl1ws just pull it apart and slide new ones in, looks pretty compact so don’t think it will be an issue

[@TC-hl1ws]

@@AL-sd5cs If the parts are readily available and it's that easy, I'll be impressed. Can the motor be purchased separately?

[@lucamuller6729]

Bosch systems use plastic gears as well. Also to note they use them only as first stage, where torque is low and weight is key to allow fast reaction time.

[@TC-hl1ws]

@@lucamuller6729 Good to know.

[@1179mikd]

Nearly every video on KZbin is an advertisement. TV has been doing it for decades. I don't understand why some of you are getting so butt hurt over the fact that it's an E-bike. I personally do not have one but they are amazing to ride for a good time. So are dirt bikes. Plus, the title describes old trails and new tech. Guess what, E-bikes are part of that new tech. @gmbn , I love your content. Keep it up.

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Because embn

[@mattknowles4169]

5:26 in. Hope someone picked up your riding glasses Neil 🤓 😂😅😂😅

[@IIChristisKingII]

How did you spot that. 😅

[@erichbachman7363]

Thought I saw something aswell and wanted to rewind, but I was too lazy xD. So glasses it was!

[@ChampyOnPC]

Now this is the future I want mountainbikes to go, that said there is no way i will ever buy a bike for 9k 😂

[@robhaskins3068]

Despite the high cost of living it remains popular. E=mtb²

[@andymoss4285]

What about £6k? 😂

[@jimmythe5906]

This was the first place I went mountain biking 😂

[@gmbn]

Amazing! Have you returned since?

[@jimmythe5906]

@@gmbnmany times sick place to ride

[@scottwhyte2772]

I wanna ride there. So cool. Nice bike. But we need belt drive. Down with derailers. Cheers😂

[@aleszverca]

That battery consumption is pretty weak. I have a trail I do regularly. It's 1000m altitude gain with a 9%(Average) Incline, and cca 11km long climb. I weigh 90kg and my ebike is 26kg with the 800Wh battery. In Turbo mode I finish the ride with 40% battery left. So as said the consumption of the Avinox is pretty high or let's say appropriate to the power.

[@urbanbwax]

Interesting how is the sizing, the seat tube seems very high up, so may be if someone is between size should consider the smaller one? Is it possible to put in reach adjustment caps? What is the head tube standard?

[@dolofangeorge]

Your video is in the wrong channel! But...I like it!

[@CMZPICTURES]

Coed y Brenin is amazing. Hopefully they can figure out a way to keep the visitor center open. I rented a turbo levo at the bike shop there last month and had a blast!

[@massimogelio7324]

It would be interesting to do a range test vs Orbea Rise in RS+ mode to understand which of the two bikes is more efficient

[@TrailtoTrailTom]

What size bottle did you fit on the bike? Looks like it just fits.

[@jimbobsadler]

Absolutely love Coed y Brenin, I remember it being built, being an older MTBer it holds a special place in my ❤ I hope it manages to survive the NRW challenges

[@RichieTee]

I've been riding Coed y Brenin more or less since it opened and I love it (long may it stay open - incidentally the original funding for the centre also came from EU regional funds). Sharing narrow single track with eBikes is annoying. I'm getting on a bit but still pedal myself around. I see guys 20-30 years younger than me on eBikes...why? I guess eBikes are OK if you have a note from your doctor explaining why you need one...

[@8o8ertmtb]

Hoping to tick Coed Y Benin off my list soon, recently did Gwydir Mawr (Marin) and that was superb. Penmachno on the list as well.

[@timmayers4965]

You don’t need medical justification to ride one pal 👍

[@8o8ertmtb]

@@timmayers4965 I've found it's not as simple as that, you have a few different sets of people on e-bikes, those that were already riding but can now ride faster and keep up with their fitter mates, those that just want to ride further and it be easier, then you have the new to the sport and getting into trouble some of these are even on illegal bikes, I think it's those that cause the anger with some people. Personally not a single e-bike made yet ticks the boxes I want a bike to be I'm all for them though especially as the previous poster pointed out it means in the future as I age I'll be able to carry on the sport I love for longer.

[@hallstewart]

CYB still rocks and the heavily armoured trail surface will outlast all of us. I might visit this week ... on my hardtail \o/!

[@onemanandhisdog9]

Faster bikes like this are going to cause trail rage at these mtb centres!!

[@Mtb9r]

Reminds me of a wonderful trail center with some free camping That has about 100 miles of trails in the Colorado Mountains. ❤

[@bertfranqui7096]

nice Intend will like that you choice there music at the start

[@philsmoker8418]

Isn't 250W the maximum power output for pedal-assist eBikes here in the UK? This has 1000W, so doesn't that mean registration / licences etc are required to actually use it? I haven't heard this being mentioned in any of the *MBN videos thus far?

[@timmayers4965]

I think it was upped to 1000kw quite recently

[@JP1THUG]

Neil, what a great video man. Really enjoyed that. Would love to visit this location. Bike looks sweeet as

[@gmbn]

You should visit it soon, it's a great spot!

[@stewartjackson1821]

Nice to see a bike review by a quality rider, so it has a motor don't most folk go with a motor if they can, having it endorsed by gmbn as a good enduro bike is what to hear

[@russellborn515]

Nice video, but I had to keep adjusting the volume, the music's too damn loud compared to your voice. Pro tip: Not everybody loves the same music you do, so in a video about bikes, maybe tone down the music.

[@vincentgauci6775]

I wonder how long Amflow have exclusivity on the motor, cant wait to see this system on other brands/different bikes

[@mtber65]

My understanding is they pitched the motor to other brands at major bike show and nobody wanted it, so they started out on their own.

[@junka1975]

Despite the bike being an E bike, it looked great on the trails and the scenery looked fantastic. A bike like that with a rider like Neil at the controls with trails like that, it would naturally result in a great video.

[@JeffMTBinVA]

Those are some beautiful trails. Guess 160/150 is because it's a trail ebike and the extra weight? That was/is considered enduro range travel. Neil, how did running the Maxxis tires feel compared to your usual Vittorias?

[@gmbn]

We've got a soft spot for Coed-Y-Brenin for sure. We think the 150/160 combined with this bikes geo definitely puts it more in trail bike territory. The Maxxis were good yeah. We don't tend to get a chance to switch out for out other partner brands when we're dealing with a press bike for a branded piece such as this

[@aaronchyea]

Looks like a nice bike, but I am personally avoiding anything DJI atm. Too much data harvesting, and are a pain to service as soon as it decides there is a problem. (even if there is no actual problem)

[@leonschatzl1711]

Would be nice to have a separate channel for those e mopeds...

[@ashleynicholls9526]

Oh wait they already do…😂

[@bearjewmtb4827]

Curious to see if this will come available in America given the issues with dji here now. Wood love to have this bike. Meanwhile I’ll settle for its little brother. The giant trance x adv elite. Same bike essentially just slightly smaller battery.

[@brickstar123]

love this trail centre really is a great day out hope they never close it, must agree its great going around on an e bike

[@gmbn]

What bike do you have?

[@brickstar123]

@@gmbn I’m lucky enough to have a 2023 Orbea wild team ltd and a trek fuel exe. Both give me different days out

[@gmbn]

Amazing bikes!

[@CncObsession]

DJI must sure have a promo budget.

[@rug212]

Hope your sunnies survived that drop! 😎 5:27

[@onemanandhisdog9]

@rug212 good spot, I still had to watch twice even with you pointing it out 😂😂

[@GarthFlint-nc2vj]

Is this bike even in production? Will it ever be in production? Is there an Amflow factory or are they just making preproduction models for advertising? There seems to be a lot of hype for a bike that may never be available.

[@neilrobertson1345]

Yes no word of it being for sale in New Zealand yet heard zero

[@erichbachman7363]

37 mins of riding and 64% battery left? This was the 800wh option bike as well. Yeah, sure going all turbo spamming, I guess with 1000wh it draws more power. Technically you could do so for an hour with a 1000wh battery. Just curious as to how much riding time you get if you spend time in the higher assist mode. Wasn't the turbo suppose to give 850wh of effect? So that would mean less than 1 hr on a 800wh battery? I just got an eMtb finally, Orbea Wild with 750wh battery. I'm a 240lb fatass, but still get around 30km going full boost, wonder what fuill assist on bosch cx4 puts out in terms of wattage. Its supposedly 85nm, which is lower compared to Amflows 105/120nm. Also wonder what assist mode you have to be in to get the sweet spot of assist and range for the Amflow bike.

[@ashleynicholls9526]

Jeez. Less EBike content on EMBN than on here now….

[@hughjanus7354]

Only noticed it because of your comment, ridiculous, eh. I thought this was an EMTBN produkkshyon.

[@jamesherd9132]

Thanks Neil Do you have a Discount Code ?

[@nigelhorwood3583]

Please can you say how the bike actually rides aside from the motor !.... suspension and geometry etc is also important !

[@markroberts7866]

Emtb’s turn trails you found torturous on an analog into pump track style riding fun and that’s my experience on a trek exe so that thing must be ridiculously fun, I’m not rushing out and buying one though I want to see them in bike shops and what other manufacturers do in response..

[@robhaskins3068]

I always end my comments with E=mtb² ...but maybe the amflow is E=mtb³. But a silent bike with goodbye derailleur would be better.

[@hughjanus7354]

Yes, perfect ebike would have no derailleurs and no chains. And a sealed motor. I.e. minimal maintenance.

[@robhaskins3068]

@hughjanus7354 I've updated my 2018 super silent, smooth and powerful 1.3 Brose Levo with a Rohloff manual change hub,170 mm Fox 38's 150mm cranks, 9piont8 steering head slacker kit + fox DPX2 shock. The silence is golden and goodbye derailleurs for me. A brand new spare sealed, updated motor and two 500wh batteries are the go for me.Going backwards with updates gives me what I want until they can come up with something as silent , smooth and reliable. E=mtb² . But is the Amflow E=mtb³ ????

[@jamiehall5021]

Great vid we done tawr du 3 days ago Y Slab section is excellent big up CYB Trail crew I is still a fantastic place to ride ...

[@ubaydullahrassack509]

Jurassic park building 🗣

[@EpicCinematicAdventures]

Man! You have an amazing content. Have a good evening! Please safe us from those ruthless woman’s

[@theowl6253]

Nice Intro

[@rule3036]

Can't beat Vivaldi ☺️

[@pjortmaszyna]

not a word about kinematics or have I missed it in this commercial?

[@8o8ertmtb]

They have such good presenters, wasting their time doing almost nothing but adverts. I'd hoped when they went it alone they'd just do honest reviews and adventures but it doesn't seem like much has changed.

[@Shane_has_a_muddy_bike-rx2dv]

Still a heavy bike for hike n bike into the wild.

[@joehoeper4648]

The riding music was very strange...🤔

[@snowdosker]

Why there is no any info about the geometry, no info about suspension works. Only about motor and touch screen with app. I don't need all this stuff ') I just want pedal assist to climbing

[@Tom-15]

So should he read of the geometry chart for you? Just go to the homepage and look it up.

[@TheAldoGShow]

Neil, what did you think of the rattle from the motor? Awesome vid GMBN and that bike looks superb!

[@riggedupgaming]

this is the earliest ive ever been to one of these videos lol

[@yengsabio5315]

This video is more EMBN than GMBN, if you ask me.

[@endurancegoliath4569]

+ the first few minutes felt more like an add for that ebike he's riding, then an actual video about an old ( well ridden by the looks of it) trail

[@mipko]

But EMBN doesn't have as many viewers and this video is an ad.

[@rustychain9518]

Yup, I don’t watch any of the e-bike content. As soon as I saw the e-bike I paused the video and browsed the comments.

[@45graham45]

​@JamesGoddard-i7sSo what is EMBN for then? This channel is now for the lazy people who need a motor to ride a trail.

[@MattSB2588]

​@@45graham45For people who want to have more fun. Three laps for your one. No brainer.

[@chrisbilsborrow9329]

If they make a Kenevo sl copy not a Levo I’d be all over it.

[@brianculver433]

When are you guys going to test and review the Priority 600HXT ? Definitely new tech with the Pinion Smart-Shift and Gates belt drive..

[@frankharradence732]

Excellent test with appropriate bike and trail info. The bike should I buy an ebike will be my first choice....owing to its lack of weight, the advanced motor/electronics, the way it rides with the Fox items back and front. All in all a great combination of design and function.

[@drahoslavhorvath]

Where did you carry charger? You have no backpack...😂 I am ebike rider... but I was never carry charger during riding.

[@dougiegraham662]

Camera crew had it or left it in the car

[@darrenwall5439]

More advertising.... You Need a New Bike!!... Na....

[@KevinT3141]

Will you be paying them to show us these beautiful trails then?

[@lucafrica74]

is possible to read the tork of the cyclist and on right leg and left?

[@MrShaneSunshine]

Im glad inhave a mechanical bike with no electrical doodahs! Enjoyed the tragically hip riff though!

[@ChampyOnPC]

I see you guys tqking inspiration from the gold standard video from Norco 😂

[@gmbn]

It's a great song!

[@ChampyOnPC]

@@gmbn it really is an epic video with great music

[@Edwordless]

Sounds like some bikers here are still living in an analog world. A bike is a bike, whether it’s downhill, trail, or electric: you’re still pedaling like crazy and ripping it up on the trails! I’ve got an analog 27.5, an electric mullet, a lightweight e-bike for commuting, a gas dirt bike, and a couple street motorcycles. It’s all 2 wheels to me and all for different use cases. The more flexible your mindset is, the more fun you’ll have and he more you’ll be out their riding all year long!

[@hughjanus7354]

Well they posted this on an MTB channel instead of the EMTB one - obviously here you'll find riders who prefer their bikes over the ebikes. PS At least you didn't use the word "acoustic".

[@118pickle]

Oh look more from embn

[@keithwestwood4640]

Just hit 666 on the likes😢...amflow demon trail slayer, wow look how far we've come great info and great ride thanks Neil.

[@matusmatok1860]

whats that on Neils right wrist

[@IIChristisKingII]

Looks like a wrist brace, probably has an injury.

[@JeffMTBinVA]

It is a brace. He mentioned it in a video a while back.

[@neildonoghueMTB]

Yeah it's a brace from Mobius, I have some ligament damage that makes it difficult to ride without it

[@matusmatok1860]

@@neildonoghueMTB thanks! Heal quick! I was juggling the idea of it being an "bike throtle".. bending wrist is what you do when throtle twisting on a motobike, so it could be a sensor influencing the motor torque. Even for the amflow I am too futuristic I guess.

[@lewissmith933]

Haven't you got a channel called EMBN for them bikes with motors

[@UrbanElectricalContracting]

love the video's but I think if it was in 4k it would really level them up

[@jkkmobile]

Posted on the wrong channel?

[@robhaskins3068]

They are simply for Fun Fun Fun. Not for racing. The magic of Emtbs is that they turn us into gleeful kids again and multiply the joy of one of mans greatest gravity cheating inventions the bicycle. They are a Time Machine. "Downhill both ways" E=mtb²

[@KDog2264]

If I wanted to watch an episode about E bikes I would watch EMBN.

[@gmbn]

We've got you covered 👍 Here's Steve putting this bike to the test in some Italian mountains 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5ekm62rd9l2hNk

[@alcosamwel]

Newest tech hahah what about blakes wireless brakes 🤔

[@jmendez73]

Another video with Neil selling EMTB, sad he used to be one of my favourite presenters…I pass sorry!

[@TheScramble8]

Looks fantastic.

[@benlukkie]

You uploaded to the wrong channel mate.

[@mahennaiker5072]

It's a complete game changer 🙌 👏

[@nicolapellegrino1072]

There's nothing game changing in this bike... e-Mtb must have a gearbox transmission aluminum frame and removable battery, these are the main characteristics that make difference.

[@45graham45]

What??? I remember the days when this was an mtb channal. Sadly it's now gone the ebike route. R.I.P gmbn.

[@gmbn]

eMTBs are still mountain bikes, we try and show a variety of bikes on this channel 🤙

[@chaotictattoo]

Sad to see how many people are riding e-bikes on trails.

[@Edwordless]

Same thing the hikers say about MTBs on the trails.

[@tonyyates2012]

The trails belong to everyone, sad that you're so territorial.

[@dennispikephotography]

Wrong channel for this video. Belongs on EMBN. Ebikes are fine, i guess, but i do not want to hear about them on this channel when you have a dedicated ebike channel. 👎👎

[@rustychain9518]

I couldn’t agree more…e-bikers will see your comment and call you a hater when in reality we just don’t care about e-bikes at all.

[@UnderWarranty]

It is a paid add for both channels, they will put it on anything

[@wonderwatch2239]

@@UnderWarrantyas they should to survive

[@wonderwatch2239]

I don’t love e-bikes, but I hate negative comments, that don’t see the whole picture, of collecting funds, to stay in the business 🤷‍♂️

[@PhilipSharp-om7jy]

Doooo0om

[@TCK71]

Awesome looking bike.

[@northernjimbo]

Does that shock hit the water bottle on every jump? Looks close to me

[@gmbn]

It doesn't 👍 The shock moves up and away from the water bottle when compressed

[@northernjimbo]

Slight brain fade from me, looking at those pivots I was sure it went down not up…🤣

[@pjewk]

Me want!

[@Bubblekeai]

Hi, we have a 4-star shop in Ali international station, representing the whole series of DJI products, we also have this bike in stock. Can we talk?

[@Leo-tr7sc]

you know, double tapping the power mode button should switch the buttons to a throttle, so the rider could ride up certain sections uphill without pedaling

[@gmbn]

The laws in a lot of countries prevent companies from adding throttles to their eBikes!

[@Leo-tr7sc]

@@gmbn maybe just a programable button that delivers a set amount of power for 10-15s without pedaling - repeat if re-pressed. I thought of this when steve was going through this crazy section and I thought he would appreciate not having to pedal for that particular bit.

[@taylorchinner2935]

E-bikes again….😑

[@SimonBold16]

This is a partnership video, that’s part of doing business on KZbin, channel gets partners/advertisers to come through, it’s not the end of the world chat, chill..

[@winklertribe5268]

I have a thumbs up because I enjoy seeing new and different trails, but the E- bike infomercial content belongs on EMBN! 😠

[@olafbarthodzie862]

If you want German viewers to understand what you are saying, please speak clearly, not coolly. Please do not swallow individual endings of words or whole letters. It is completely uncool to try to speak casually and too quickly. Then it will no longer be understood. Global is global, and the world is not Great Britain, but the whole world. Otherwise, I understand you about as well as Joe Biden. But if Kamala Harris becomes president, then I will understand everything. So please make sure you speak clear English and not cool British. That just sounds like the honorable Mr. Joe Biden.

[@testdirver]

expensive ebike with cheap noisy rotors, wtf

[@garycockbain6506]

I wonder how many of the ebike haters on here are english😂😂😂😂😂

[@billskolnik4908]

There's nothing like touching your screen while you're riding. This bike isn't even available for sale and the bullshit is already getting spewed through the pay-to-play machine. Disgusting.

[@garycockbain6506]

Love how gmbn are moving with the times with ebikes unlike the dinosaurs who still love the old fashioned analogue bikes and detest ebikes because they're not old enough to ride one😂😂😂😂😂

[@hughjanus7354]

Garry Cock, what a fitting name.

[@bigshnitzeljesse]

Great! Another commie bike

[@frankfazio]

Great! Another propagandist's comment.

[@bigshnitzeljesse]

@frankfazio Chinese government owns part of DJI. Whats not communist about it?

[@bigshnitzeljesse]

@frankfazio I'll gladly sling propaganda at a communist government-owned company. DJI hasn't kept that a secret. Sucks because they make enticing products.

[@MTBMark47]

Stop with the kph/kilometers...we are in the uk..it's miles ffs 😂 Great bike though👍

[@gmbn]

It is such a cool bike! We use KPH as it's more globally recognised 🌎