Olds 455 Build Part-8 Timing Cover and Oil Pan Install!! 1987 Olds 442: Video 71

[@g3garage]

Definitely learned something on this video. You just answered the question to why my brand new stainless steel bolt seized on one of my engine brackets. Duh... no anti-seize! Thanks Hutch!

[@hutchhiperf]

The best lessons are learned the hard way (I should know). And watch yourself with that anti-seize! You open it up and it's on your neighbors shoes 🙂

[@charlesm7589]

Nice video! Helpful too because I'm in the process of putting my '65 425 back together after a cam and heads swap. I absolutely cracked up when you talked about how anti seize gets everywhere! I also have the same problem with RTV, no matter how little I use, it gets on my gloves, then I touch something, then I grab the roll of towels and the ratchet... 😄

[@hutchhiperf]

Thank you. I agree on the RTV too. If you get some under a fingernail and it sets, it's murder getting it out.

[@bobdimartino6738]

they sell it in a tube like cheese wiz the only bad thing is it cost 35 dollars but it doesn't get everywhere and you can turn a valve to turn it off o the whole thing doesn't harden up

[@Bigislandguy]

I have a 88 with the roller lifters. I forgot to replace my cam spring and didn’t realize how hard it was to get into the timing cover with the motor in the car. I’m really considering just leaving it alone.

[@jasonhumphry5836]

The best oil pan gasket to use for a oldsmobile V8 is the one for a 350 oldsmobile diesel it is a metal cork design and far superior peace and much respect oldsmobilers 1978- 1985 diesel 350 oldsmobile V8

[@jasonhumphry5836]

Made by fel pro and Victor Reinz

[@hutchhiperf]

You jogged my memory. I actually have a set of 350 D gaskets in my pile of parts. Next time!

[@jasonhumphry5836]

FEL-PRO # OS 30471 C

[@jasonhumphry5836]

@@hutchhiperf I'm posting part # now for you and other oldsmobilers

[@jasonhumphry5836]

Mahle # OS 350 34 TC

[@David-ck8wj]

try a stud kit next time, helps with gasket alignment and a better seal on the pan gasket.

[@krazykozey2259]

I'm glad I'm not the only ocd 🍆 head out there, lol. I saw your response to the comment about the pink gasket and instantly wondered if I finally found my long-lost father 😂😂. First video for me. I'm building 2 455s for my 69 Cutlass because I'm running hard down here in Florida and must have a backup. I can tell already I'm going to learn a few things from you. Appreciate you taking the time to go into detail. Bob

[@hutchhiperf]

🤣🤣🤣

[@soulfultenor]

Bob, where are you in FL

[@krazykozey2259]

@@soulfultenor I'm in Aripeka by Springhill.

[@TruckThisGarage]

Why is the gasket pink? Is it soaked in the anaerobic sealant?

[@hutchhiperf]

Permatex High Tack man!! Didn't you see the video from the beginning??

[@TruckThisGarage]

@@hutchhiperf ya I just didn’t know what it was called. I could t find that at the parts store just now. All they had was Permatex Shellac or Permatex gasket maker stuff

[@hutchhiperf]

@@TruckThisGarage Had the same problem. I talked about it on the video before that one. I had to order it and have it delivered. Frustrating!

[@TruckThisGarage]

@@hutchhiperf Ah bummer well I’m tired of waiting on parts. I’m gonna use a thin film of black Permatex on each side and hope for the best 🤫

[@hutchhiperf]

@@TruckThisGarage That should be fine. It's all a matter of preference half the time anyway.

[@bobdimartino6738]

is the timing mark at 12 on both or 12 and 6?

[@hutchhiperf]

For the Double Roller I used, the Cam sprocket dot is at 6 o'clock and the Crank sprocket is at 12 o'clock. You line the two dots up. I installed the timing chain here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2ebhpisbKesack It's at the 14 minute mark.

[@bobdimartino6738]

@@hutchhiperf i seen the video thanks but i put mine together last night my chilton book tells you to do it your way on the 350 motor but on the 400 it tells you 12 and 12. i set my 425 at 12 on crank and 12 on cam but both valves are closed. if i rotate the engine a full rotation then mine would be like yours but my valves would be open my question is are your valves in the open position on number one would i need to pull the cover to correct mine?

[@hutchhiperf]

@@bobdimartino6738 Think of it this way. 1 full rotation of the crank takes the #1 piston from TDC to TDC. One is compression and one is exhaust (based off the cam). The cam is doing the same in it's 1 rotation. 1 valve open, both valves closed, the other valve open. The crank and cam work together but have different jobs. On one rotation, #1 is at TDC and the cam says "both valves closed", on the next TDC, "exhaust valve open". If you put the cam and crank gear marks both at 12 o'clock, then one rotation of the crank will have them at 6 and 12 (the crank turns twice for every one turn of the cam). It only matters when the Distributor goes in. If you just go by the balancer mark and not check that it's on the compression stroke at TDC then you can be 180 off. The practice of putting the chain on "dot to dot" is just to be more accurate because they're so close together. It's less possible to be one tooth off than at 12 to 12. You're fine

[@soulfultenor]

What cam are you using, lift and duration?? I'm pretty much doing the same thing, but with a 71 350 with 68#5 heads

[@hutchhiperf]

Here it is: www.howardscams.com/hydraulic-roller-47-swap-camshaft-1967-1990-oldsmobile-260-455-1800-5600-howards-cams-514825-10

[@ben68442]

Hutch, what pistons are in your 455. I'm also building a 455 and will be changing pistons to up the compression from 9 to 10.5: 1 Those look like a relatively shallow dish. Do you know off hand the cc.

[@hutchhiperf]

They are the Speed-Pro Forged Pistons L-2323F 60 and they're 18cc dished

[@ben68442]

@@hutchhiperf Thanks, not sure what cc I'll need just yet. mine is bored 30 over.

[@hutchhiperf]

@@ben68442 Here's a good tool that can give you a rough estimate if you have all the necessary info www.summitracing.com/newsandevents/calcsandtools/compression-calculator

[@ben68442]

@@hutchhiperf yup I have seen that. will do.

[@ben68442]

Hey Hutch, is the front cover seal part of a whole rebuild gasket kit or is it a ford 460 seal? or are they the same? I've seen on the CO forum reference to the ford 460 seal.....

[@hutchhiperf]

The 460 seal is for the rear main seal, replacing the antiquated rope seal. The front cover seal and rear pan seal are from the usual 455 gasket kit. I talk about the 460 seal at minute 24:49 here kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYPdmnR4bL6Hn5Y

[@ben68442]

@@hutchhiperf Got it, thanks once again