Oldskool Amiga Rave Walkthrough Part 2 of 2 - OctaMED

Editing the samples from the last video and using them to make some riffs.
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[@commandercortez]

Production ASMR

[@mdood9299]

Fascinating to see the operation. Sadly, I was a bit young in the heyday of the Amiga and was oblivious to all of this. Ended up finding myself in front of fruity loops though. 😂

[@rdubb77]

There was no feeling like when you got your multiple breakbeats on the right part of the 64 steps and the speed fine tuned right. A room of MIDI instruments was better but some of us couldn't afford that because we were so young, and I think this was actually faster than MIDI workflow.

[@erolbrown]

Same here. 90% of the time it sounded shit but then you'd get two breaks that just fit perfectly and it was sublime.

[@Rekoyl116]

I have no idea what’s going on but I love it

[@gettingpast4391]

This was great. I had to back up and rewatch sections multiple times but this was the best in depth octamed tutorial I've seen even though none of it was explained. I got most of it thru watching closely. It really shows just how great Octamed 4 really is.

[@mcjdubpower]

I want my Amiga back 🥺

[@ASH-ou4cg]

Damn! This was incredible! So weak compared to todays standards of DAW, yet you accomplished so much more and with the authentic grit and crunch too! This reminds me of 95, when I used to fool around on Scream/Impulse tracker, after school! I really love the aliasing present on that sine wave bass, when you transpose it in pitch. That whine it makes it so genuine! This is the best video from you yet and I hope you do more like this!

[@RaveyStabs]

Thanks Andrew, appreciate your support!

[@HaveYouTriedGuillotines]

As much as I appreciate seeing how this stuff was done in ye olde days, I think I'll stick to my DAW, on-SSD stack of rave/techno samples (and Rave Generator 2), and wide assortment of VAs, DX7 FM clones and x0x knockoff VSTs. :P

[@HaveYouTriedGuillotines]

@Intuition It also limits creativity. I don't know if you noticed, but it's implied by _the word you just used._

[@6581punk]

Weak? efficient more like. I've got Cubase and I've used Logic in the past, they're bloated and inefficient, all this moving between mouse, computer keyboard and MIDI keyboard. Was struggling with creativity until I decided to focus on learning the tracker Renoise, can do pretty much everything with the computer keyboard, it's much easier, no wading through 10 huge menus. I've got a vast array of external gear, too many synths to remember. But at the end of the day it's no use if you can't motivate yourself to sit down and use it all to the max.

[@westerncivilization]

Fantastic video. Thank you very much for preserving and sharing a really important slice of culture.

[@BarryEuphorik]

Great video, a trip down memory lane for me. How I used to write music back in the 90's.

[@RaveTracks]

Oh the nostalgia is strong my friend. Exactly the kind of stuff I was doing. Fantastic upload! ❤

[@RaveyStabs]

Have you still got your Amiga RaveTracks? Time those pink mittens got on one?!

[@RaveTracks]

@@RaveyStabs I'm afraid I don't. However a friend of mine who's a retro computer collector recently reminded me that he has all my old disk with my samples and mods on. Revisiting those old tunes and sound from back in the day could make a good video. Hmm.

[@RaveyStabs]

You know what to do ;)

[@CJWarlock]

Cool. Nice to see OctaMed workflow on A1200 after the years. :)

[@Instrumentals4Sale]

Takes me back, makes me wish I hadn't gave away the Atari. Love the channel!

[@maffro20]

Banger mate. Never did anything like this with my Amiga

[@farben_]

4 track Amiga mastery right here, amazing demo.

[@mcjdubpower]

Wut they sed 💯🔥

[@jc_beats_]

Amazed. I'm actually amazed. That's it 👏👏

[@mcjdubpower]

Take me back now, now goddamit now ❤🎉😊

[@RuffneckBizniz]

Great video even better with commentary keep'em coming love it.

[@ASH-ou4cg]

Absolutely love the tricks on creating those staccato stab notes and even the mock echo! Sounds great and you didn't need any actual effects to do that!

[@ASH-ou4cg]

@Jon Goat Great!

[@techtinkerin]

Takes me back to the great old days of cover disks and late nights with the Atari, brilliant m8❤️😁

[@AmigaJunglism]

Your work flow on OctaMED is very similar to mine mate.

[@jediknight2350]

octamed how many years did i waste making music on this lol love it you make me want an amiga again hell im going to buy one and remake some old songs .

[@RaveyStabs]

Do it, music has never been quite as fun to make since :)

[@respobabs]

excellent work

[@bazildonboi]

Loving this, thanks for the inspiration

[@GalvanicGearAkaPicao666]

Good music

[@MOOTANT1]

100% Authentic Mr Stabbs :)

[@TheTamandtone]

Best vid I've seen in ages, please accept my subscription.

[@undergroundbass946fm]

Absobloodlylootly fantastic mate

[@mcjdubpower]

This is feckin grait ❤

[@MeineVideokasetten]

#GreenApplRadio [memories]. Yass. My kind of music. Great video, dude. Keep up the good work.

[@TimCant]

Fantastic video, I can’t remember even looking at the synth page back in the day which is probably for the beet as it looks terrifying even now 😂

[@RaveyStabs]

Thanks Tim, yes I have to admit I didn't get much past the sine wave!

[@TimCant]

RaveyStabs that’s all you need 😉😉

[@joshb9657]

This is fantastic!!!!

[@Digiphex]

Is there someplace to get the original sample pack that came with the Octamed disk?

[@ndrinks5550]

God this makes me miss spending hours in front of Fast Tracker 2.

[@RaveyStabs]

That was my next sequencer after OctaMED and what an amazing progression it was. IMO though no one quite got the “sample list” part as good as OctaMED did, not even Renoise.

[@ndrinks5550]

@@RaveyStabs I moved on to Renoise after FT2, it's amazingly versatile but just didn't feel as fast to do the basic stuff at first (plus no Nibbles button!). I recently installed the Windows 10 port of FT2 and while it instantly felt familiar it still took me longer than it should to work out how to even open a file :-) Did you ever try Scream Tracker? I don't know what it was about it but I just couldn't get on with any version, I remember it still having that feeling of an internal demo group tool rather than something for public release if that makes sense.

[@RaveyStabs]

@@ndrinks5550 I did try Scream briefly (had a mate into it) but couldn't get into it, but it did have resonance filter if I remember. Another cool tracker was Skale Tracker (based on FT2 with VST support but abandoned pretty quickly) but I still use it and FT2 I have working under DOSbox. I've not totally got into Renoise either. If you keep an eye on the channel though I'm hoping to release a VST/AU plugin that is somewhat tracker based, just solving some final bugs.

[@Jaspa42]

Damn, need to fire up Ocatmed after 30 years ;)

[@kixxalot]

Awesome! I've never owned an Amiga, my setup was always just MIDI. I absolutely love the hard crunchy sound of the Amiga though, and I'm thinking of getting one. But a question: this seems to be as much as you can squeeze out of 4 tracks - any reason why you are not using the 8 tracks that seem to be available in Octamed? Does this degrade the sound too much? I know that I could just use Renoise on a PC for loads of tracks, but I'd miss the crunchy Amiga sound then.

[@RaveyStabs]

Yes i would say it degrades too much, but past 4 midi channels you can branch into MIDI channels, and up to 64 in OctaMED ss

[@kixxalot]

@@RaveyStabs OK. Did you ever try running 2 Amigas in sync using a null cable?

[@ButeSound]

Was predicting your track mutes & unmutes - I'd record that kind of thing onto cassette ;)

[@RaveyStabs]

yes, it's a great way of chiseling out a track and I still do similar on a Mackie MCU today. Basically record a 20-30 minute take of mutes/solos/fades, listen back and pick out the best bits, condensing that down into a shorter 5 to 7 minute track and adding a bit more to transitions. It's a way out of arrangement block and you feel the performance rather than try to pre-script it, which has become the norm.

[@tobinakatarx]

Thanks so much ,what do we need to get started ?

[@RaveyStabs]

If you don't have an Amiga, I'd recommend trying out UAE (emulator) or even Renoise (modern tracker).

[@VTOLKits]

You are very fast, you don't forgot how to work with the program...!

[@way2muchNFO]

wow memiries.. started oib MEDline? i think back in '89

[@deejaychainwallet]

whats breakbeat2? its the josh B hardcore junglist break ive been looking for it lmao, saw part one and its in that video but j wanted the name

[@h.hholmes3118]

Dett Demon Boyz

[@Gamerz3ee]

Prodigy

[@AngryBulldogg]

Hahaha. Dis Sir.... some bangin shit! Fillin irie

[@Prosmotren]

It's fantastic, is there an mp3?

[@nutsosix7930]

EFFECT COMMANDS --------------- Effect commands on ProTracker should be compatible with all other trackers. 0 - None/Arpeggio 8 - * NOT USED * 1 - Pitch Slide Up 9 - Sample Offset 2 - Pitch Slide Down A - Volume Slide 3 - Tone Portamento B - Position Jump 4 - Vibrato C - Set Volume 5 - Tone Porta + VolSlide D - Pattern Break 6 - Vibrato + VolSlide E - Misc. Cmds 7 - Tremolo F - Set Speed E - COMMANDS ------------ The E command has been altered to contain more commands than one. E0- LED Filter On/Off E8- Karplus-Strong E1- Fine Pitch Slide Up E9- Note Retrig E2- Fine Pitch Slide Down EA- Fine Volume Slide Up E3- Glissando Control EB- Fine Volume Slide Down E4- Set Vibrato Waveform EC- Note Cut E5- Set Finetune ED- Note Delay E6- Pattern Loop EE- Pattern Delay E7- Set Tremolo Waveform EF- Invert Loop

[@Synthesis1979]

Why is octaMED not playing the rest of the sample when you loaded it up? It only played a bit of the sample and it went silent even though there was audio data there? 0:32

[@RaveyStabs]

Too long/memory, I think it tails off at a certain point even when you have a lot of memory (relatively speaking!), and so when the sample is over a certain size it only plays the first bit. Likewise you'll also notice out of memory issues when I tried to trim a long sample from the front.

[@abstracttim7428]

Cool vid.. only watched 6 mins so far but why use SPD and not BPM?

[@RaveyStabs]

Good question. I started off just using SPD (the default) and when setting tempo it was always adjusted to make the pitched breakbeat fit/loop correctly, as was often the case even with hardware samplers. Also, perhaps people weren't as BPM obsessed then as they are now, and I didn't think about it much, just setting the tempo to what felt right for the track and got used to the numbering!

[@daxxravebusters]

I ever hated the limitation of 4 channel on my Amiga. Sad that i never heard about Symphonoie Pro 3.2 on Amiga before. Listen to Thunder's 'Mod' there. Really great. :)

[@RaveyStabs]

Yeah was a real shame. There was that amiga tracker that could bounce down and mix channels together into a single sample which helped, maybe you used that too?

[@daxxravebusters]

@@RaveyStabs No, I only used Protracker. I calculated my beats myself with every element like hihats, kicks, claps in milliseconds (depending on the BPM) and mixed them together. Bouncing all channels into a loop would have helped me a lot. :D

[@RaveyStabs]

@@daxxravebusters That sounds complex! Soundtracker Pro 2 had a "Mix Tracks" function in the sample editor

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

im all out of love 1:27 =)

[@Sephirothxxxxxxxxxxx]

Caught that myself. The break will never leave my mind

[@wiggyboy24]

@@Sephirothxxxxxxxxxxx What is the name of the break?

[@Sephirothxxxxxxxxxxx]

@@wiggyboy24 idk the source but it's instantly recognizable from all out of love

[@wiggyboy24]

@@Sephirothxxxxxxxxxxx imma need the track ID too bro cause I've been looking for like an hour now and I can't find a song titled that with that break in it.

[@Sephirothxxxxxxxxxxx]

@@wiggyboy24 Love Child - All Out of Love (DJ Weirdo and DJ Sim mix)

[@dedr4m]

Welp, that naff-ness monster I made in SchismTracker (Impulse-Tracker clone) maybe not so naff afterall.... Also, I guess there are other people whom can't get anything that isn't outright noise from a modern DAW (LMMS, Magix, FruitLoops, etc) and yet can get something listenable out of a tracker DAW (Impulse/Schism, Renoise, Protracker/pt2, etc)?

[@RaveyStabs]

Whatever works! For me I keep on coming back to trackers because they just seem to flow better & are quicker to get ideas down with, which generally leads to better musical ideas/combinations that can get detailed quite quickly. I usually finish up in a DAW for adding more detailed effects, eq, mastering, often arranging parts, but have started to use Renoise more for arranging now too, which is a brilliant piece of software once you get into it/customise.

[@jasonb_]

1000th subscriber here :D !!!!

[@RaveyStabs]

Thanks, you da man!

[@h.hholmes3118]

I have a question about the Akai sampler. If I use an Akai s950 to chop an amen, does that mean I can only slice it 8 times. Also, when my amen drums are cut up, can i use different sound on a different midi channel on the same sampler or is it only 8 samples and that's it

[@ludwikoleksiewicz163]

amiga 500 1,5 mb---- plus octamed profesional ?

[@Erpm4n01]

Does anyone know what that first break is? Is it a pitched down "Think" break?

[@bunnybuckypops]

I need you to come to my house for a personal tutorial!

[@kikencorp]

You should join us on the PT-1210 Discord server! where all the cool Amiga rave nuts hang ;)

[@RaveyStabs]

Online chat scares me!

[@kikencorp]

@@RaveyStabs we're all friendly, rave stab, breakbeat loving Amiga and sampler nerds :P Anyway we really like your channel!

[@kikencorp]

@@RaveyStabs I wish YT allowed DMs again.... anyway, I was off during the weekend, did I see you join and be scared off by some childish behaviour? If so, I regret that, and hope you can ignore that and come back! If not, I understand.

[@RaveyStabs]

@@kikencorp checked out a few channels, it's like IRC, sorry just not my thing virtual chat/friends and all that, too few hours in the day as is!

[@kikencorp]

@@RaveyStabs Fair enough mate! Just wanted to be sure you were not put off by some moron being stupid.

[@hannuthyvonen]

minun musiikkia Löytyy Facebookista.

[@wordofmouthpress3724]

Hi mate how is your mixer connected to this and once I have sequenced a whole tune how do I mix it on the mixer and then send stems and full track to my daw please help

[@RaveyStabs]

Here I just recorded the main stereo outs, which gives you two channels (2 of the tracks in one, 2 in the other), then I narrow the Amiga's wide stereo but didn't completely mono it to keep some and I didn't do any processing (other than video software limiting). If I was going to mix properly I would record each channel in isolation by muting the others or depending on the track layout (with only 4 channels you generally re-use with different instruments at different song sections) you might stem record pieces and reconstruct the arrangement in the DAW. Or you might get away with just mastering the stereo 2 track depending on how it sounds. Filt/boost in OctaMED's sample editor can give you a primitive eq (I used it to brighten the stab a bit in the vid).

[@wordofmouthpress3724]

@@RaveyStabs BRILLIANT MATE THANK YOU SO HAVE I GOT THIS RIGHT I WOULD SAMPLE INTO MY S950 AND RUN THAT FROM MIDI INTO A MIDI BOX ON THE AMIGA AND RECORD THEN SEND THE AUDIO OUT THE S950 OUTPUTS INTO THE MIXERS INPUTS THEN MY MONITORS FROM THE MIXER TO A AUDIO INTERFACE INS? AND RECORD THE STEMS THAT WAY ? OR IF NOT HOW DO I MAKE A CHAIN BY SAMPLING FROM THE AKAI INTO THE AMIGA SEQUENCE IN OCTAMED MIX ON ANALOGUE MIXED AND SEND STEMS INTO MY DAW? APPRECIATE THE HELP

[@RaveyStabs]

@@wordofmouthpress3724 Ah you've got a S950, plot thickens. If you want to multitrack you're probably best putting all your samples into the S950 and using the Amiga to sequence it via MIDI, then the multi-outputs from it either into a mixer (if oldschool mixing with eq/aux sends then mixer outs to DAW) or connect all those outputs directly into a multi-input audio interface for direct to DAW recording all individual tracks at once. I do the latter and don't work with mixers anymore.

[@C20XEMini]

was it possible to get 8 stereo tracks out of an A1200?

[@RaveyStabs]

OctaMED could do 8 tracks of audio where it did software mixing, but the quality reduced drastically, so I tended to never use.

[@XnazxulX]

Has anyone got any of the amiga emulators to work with midi, is it even possible?

[@RaveyStabs]

I tried using WinUAE but the MIDI timing was very poor/jittery, which made it unusable. Maybe Mac or raspberry pi would be better.

[@mosesdavis3388]

where do you download octamed ?

[@RaveyStabs]

@@mosesdavis3388 Aminet, if you browse mus/edit

[@mosesdavis3388]

@@RaveyStabs witch link do i click

[@RaveyStabs]

@@mosesdavis3388 aminet.net/search?f=2&path=mus/edit&start=150 - OctaMEDv4.lha I'm on in this video

[@alexnimus5339]

а есть у кого скачать OctaMED 5 на виндовс

[@bassrover5925]

Ин да хаус

[@jnkmal9519]

Accidentally came across this vid again. Great every time!