Breaking Forza's Unwritten Rule

[@BLLACKSTTAR]

Imagine being a person who doesn't know about this unspoken rule, and you just like the GT40. You'd be so confused as to why you're getting bullied and rammed all the time.

[@b3nzee]

This is literally me. I practically only the Ford GT used in S1 races in both F4 and F5 so I didn't get rammed as much but I still had messages and some rams lol.

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

People don’t bother explaining themselves, and instead become emotional and aggressive to get a point across, even though it isn’t a positive or well communicated way of doing it. Makes me disappointed in people sometimes. We are better than this.

[@danilookovic7971]

That would be me if i played this. I ADORE the gt40

[@internetguy3971]

This would definitely be me lmao

[@kaffielekobold8695]

It's FM7. Chances are you'll get rammed regardless of what you're driving

[@kacpertron]

New person trying out the GT40 in S Class: This is a cool and fast car. Booooom 2012672: You gon' die

[@OldTires]

Lol

[@joe125ful]

More like:Wrong car buddy:)

[@Matt-wy4jp]

Wait he has 2012 in his name bro he is literally 11 years old

[@Scotty-vs4lf]

@@Matt-wy4jp its crazy to me that someone born in 2012 would be 11 now, i feel so old

[@mrjuice4385]

he might have created his acc in 2012

[@FluffyAngelUwU]

> Play Forza Motorsport 7 > Chooses the Ford GT 40 > The game transforms into Need For Speed Most Wanted 05

[@IshaanTS]

More like NFS Rivals with the insane ramming and fighting

[@NeetuSingh-gl1ue]

More like the public lobbies in hot pursuit remastered.

[@FluffyAngelUwU]

@@NeetuSingh-gl1ue Most wanted had more cops at the same time, while Hot pursuit has 4 extra hard cops so it depends on lobby

[@SylasG]

This is why I only race in the “Race Regulations” lobbies that penalize corner cutting and crashing..

[@OldTires]

That's a good call man. At least they try to keep it clean in those lobbies.

[@Nicegroundhog60]

​@@OldTiresFrom my experience, I haven't seen any semi-clean drivers in those lobbies. I more often find them in the Endurance GT lobbies.

[@curledone7947]

​@@Nicegroundhog60 have met some really chill in those lobbies myself but there are some bullies in there as there are in all the other lobbies

[@dom3827]

the fact that you need to find a way to play normal is alarming. What pathetic disgusting community has this game? If i wanna play a car, i wanna play it. Every kid who wont let me play it, will get his bill sooner or later. End of storry. Just seeing this unsportsman anti social behaviour makes me aggressive. Why dont people let you play what you want? In Germany we call them "Missgeburten" like "Birthdefects". I think that hits the nail on the head. What disgusting community.

[@darronpattel]

This is an outsider perspective cus i don't play this game but i think it'd actually take skill to drive the gt40 in that environment cus you couldn't just smash into ppl when going too fast and get away with it. (i don't play forza so I find it especially weird that the gt40 is so much better than some of these cars for acceleration because that isn't realistic at all)

[@r0b3rt_959]

Couldn't ever imagine nerds getting this angry about a videogame car.

[@OldTires]

Gotta love the Forza community 🙃

[@Guiltycircle486]

I changed this comment so it seems like people are arguing for no reason

[@egg0534]

​@@Guiltycircle486 I'm a car guy but I don't get the idea of "Let's get this guy because he has better car" thingy... I would understand If It was a thing in FH5 where you got Hot Wheels and other shit like that, since FH5 is way worse in terms of online racing...

[@StudentDriverBR]

​@@egg0534not it's not, i play both and races are better in Horizon, the anti collision and ghosted start fix most of the race, after the ghost ends most fast players will be in the front racing each other with the noobs and rammers in the back, if the rammers try to ram you they are ghosted, isn't a 100% solution but still great, only good races you can get in Motorsport are in the endurance lobby and the Leagues races

[@Clit_Yeastwood]

I don't behave like this but I can understand why people would, they want to recreate what they see from old racing series such as the GT3, GT2 and GT1 for example, balanced classes each car with pros and cons that are fair, I get it, I want it too, I'd rather get 5th place racing hard and clean with something I've built than just jump in some cringey leader board car with an op downloaded tune but that's me, it's my own style I've chosen for myself, I just want racing to be fun again and have these OP cars not be a factor because it's really not fun, no one like seeing Lewis win everything in F1 and the same is true with Max the last 2 years I just can't gather why theyed do that in a racing game but whatever its their choice at the end of the day. But yeah I understand why people get mad about it, but I don't condone taking action out of it, just race better or I dunno lobby to get certain cars in certain classes blacklisted or something lol anything but ramming like seriously.

[@michaelschmitter8725]

Back in forza 4 they had a game mode called cat and mouse. The group I play with changed up the rules a little, and we called it shepherd. A bunch of c class cars, those are the ones actually racing each other. With a couple s class in the mix. The s class cars are supposed to keep the group of c class all together. The s class could only hit the lead car to keep the group tight. It was actually some of the best racing I ever had.

[@OldTires]

That's awesome dude. Private match lobbies back on 3 and 4 were great times. Loved car soccer/football myself.

[@Kronos0999]

Sounds truly stupid

[@KeineStrande]

that sounds so fun cause it forces constant battles

[@AlphaHumphrey]

Last man standing was my jam in FM4. Sooooo much fun!

[@toyotadaiju4908]

those game modes in fm4 and fh1 were pretty fun to play

[@Benjamin-hi1ni]

I got a kicker out of this one. I always find this kind of stuff funny. But I do appreciate how gamers can have unwritten rules for these kinds of things where a character or car or whatever must neither be named or used due to being overpowered or overly-annoying.

[@OldTires]

You're totally right. There are unwritten rules in a ton of games.

[@Dung30n]

If it's in the game, I'm going to use it. I don't care how OP or ridiculous it is. I don't care if it's a noob tube, an AWP, or the GT40. the Devs puts it there, I paid for it, Im going to use it - just DON'T ABUSE IT.

[@ICEM4N6]

True, is kinda like uploading you winning a fight in Tekken 7 with Akuma. The amount of hate you'll get is insane 🙏

[@siralfredofhorsiii]

@@Dung30nTbf the awp rule hasn't been a thing for a long time that I've seen

[@Dung30n]

@@siralfredofhorsiii I agree it wasnt the best example, i was struggling to remember things, but i think it serves to get my point across.

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

I mean, I get it, but same time, what if you just like that car? I casually play all sorts of games, and I only seriously simrace and flight sim. I would hop onto a race for once in six months in this game and have absolutely no idea what I did wrong.

[@OldTires]

Yep. It's a silly thing.

[@guffingtonreal]

I do like this car and didn't know about this

[@Zankaroo]

You would not have done anything wrong, they are just cunts. I'm gonna drive what ever car I feel like, after a race of me easily winning or a few races (that won't happen anyways) they can ask me to not use that car again. And then I can ignore them I paid to play the game just like they did and I'm using what I want or switch because they were nice. If people are gonna ram because they don't like your car choice they need to be perma banned.

[@doggofv]

I do somewhat understand this unwritten rule as if your trying to have a fair competetion and one person has a far superior car it isnt really fun. Its to the point where everyone would have to use that car and you wouldnt be able to use other cars you like if you wanna win. Imagine entering a marathon and some dude brings a bicycle. Or probably a better analogy you enter a bike race and some guy brings an e-bike Youd be pissed

[@Galaticat117]

Yeah, like the gt 40 is my absolute favorite car in fm4

[@ImJustToddy]

As much as I like sim racing, I can’t imagine being that mad about a car in game lmao 🤣

[@OldTires]

Yeah this guy was not a happy camper

[@nordvestgaming1238]

Yea I could maybe see just ramming him once, but doing it over and over and across multiple races was a little excessive...

[@nordvestgaming1238]

Yea I could maybe see just ramming him once, but doing it over and over and across multiple races was a little excessive...

[@vrcshortys152]

forza isnt a sim

[@hiimnifty3625]

​@@vrcshortys152Forza Horizon is an arcade, Motorsport is a sim

[@Donutking17000]

Imagine if Boom 2012672 spent his time making his life better instead of showing hatred on an old racing game.

[@XenoghostTV]

How the fuck are you folks so soft that you may consider ramming on someone's car in a videogame "showing hatred"?

[@leoarevalo6786]

Bro had character development throughout the video

[@costa-w3k]

He was protecting others from an unfairly overpowered car 🫡 Real soldier.

[@AlexanderVonish]

@@costa-w3kreal soldiers don’t care what a car has, but instead bring that up with the developers.

[@deltazero3796]

Get a doc.

[@Mrwrenchifi]

"If they could fix these player ratings that would be nice" dude literally makes contact on nearly every overtake.

[@D1G1T4L1NF3RN0]

My thoughts exactly. People aren't ramming him because he's in the gt40 they are ramming him because he drives like an ass.

[@lanceuppercut6168]

Yeah and the whole 'rubbing is racing' is generally used as an excuse by non clean racers xD

[@comradeshaq7467]

@MaybeShimo"cutting off" in a racing game???

[@ethanrandall3005]

You're applying real racing rules to Forza. Forza isn't sim racing. He's following the rules of Forza.

[@TyrinsClips]

​@@ethanrandall3005That's a pitiful excuse.

[@kilacoust8875]

This is why I can't wait for the new game and it's driver rating system lol Also will be interesting to see if power builds are still competitive with the new tyre system

[@OldTires]

Driver ratings are gonna be awesome. And yeah I'm so pumped to start building some new cars.

[@Arnechk]

There will be a meta that someone will figure out within a month. As per the usual.

[@UncleVenz]

tire*

[@Arnechk]

Gr8b8m8. @@UncleVenz

[@anti-tryhard]

@@Arnechk I dont think they will, im calling right now there won't be any OP cars, and no cars that are clearly better than other cars in the same class in the new Forza Motorsport

[@jerichostevens2711]

people really are like dogs. the guy has been conditioned to attack that car on sight, and that's exactly what he is doing. self-control/control of emotions is key.

[@TheFurryMemelord]

Okay Gandhi

[@DarkKatzy013]

Or they could just fucking not and let the mfer play the game and not be a baby about it.

[@w花b]

​@BIGBigBoiNICKReducing everything to "just pixels" is a weird thing to say. Otherwise no one would care about hacking a bank account because it's just a bunch of numbers on a screen. Just say that it's just a game but trying to describe things in this way just make you look like you don't know what you're talking about.

[@emma6648]

@@w花bwhat an idiotic comment by you, bank account is different than a game

[@XenoghostTV]

@BIGBigBoiNICK You're much more embarassing than him for being so mad at someone slamming against someone's car in a videogame. So soft, totally pathetic.

[@whotf888]

To Boom2012 sum'n: you have 2 brain cells and both are fighting for 3rd place.

[@DeskFanandPizza]

Bros comment was too perfect for anyone to comment

[@alrecks619]

the boom guy must've been traumatized by THE GT40 in Rome course.

[@wildracing6112]

He really didn't like the gt40

[@OldTires]

No sir he did not lol

[@Blurgamer17]

Must've played Gran Turismo 2 far too often.

[@KamikazeCash123]

@@Blurgamer17he’s there

[@alrecks619]

@@Blurgamer17 or rooted for Ferrari in 1966 24 hours of le mans

[@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL]

@@alrecks619nah i voted for the NASCAR’s

[@BelowParGamer]

I really hope the driver rating ends some of the multiplayer toxicity in the new game. On of the reasons I stopped racing fm7 was because of the online bumper cars lol. Great content as always my man

[@OldTires]

It really is bumper car simulator sometimes lol thanks BPG!

[@jerichostevens2711]

GT7 has a driver rating system... and even in the higher driver rating races, it's still a demolition derby... it really sucks for people who are trying to race seriously... I'm hoping forza motorsport 8 will have a solution for it... because the safety rating system might as well not even exist in gt7...

[@TheA53ford]

Trust me I doubt it'll help as much as I want it to. GT7 still has people that don't know how to drive. Ran into some last night in a slow daily race.

[@dom3827]

The developers could just program a penalty. If you ram someone 3 times in a minute, instant ban for 1 hour. Again? Ban for 24 hours? Again? A week Ban. Again? Perm ban + hardware ID ban. Simple as that. Glad i dont play this game, i would try to Hack the accounts of those unsportsman players. Would not be good for me, could give me legal problems. But i would try if they push me too hard.

[@spankyjeffro5320]

@@dom3827 Nope. First time should result in a perm ban. You know the rules, follow them or else.

[@oneevilchef]

This reminds me of the time I ended the win streaks of a lobby of Ferrari Enzo's while driving a Bentley Continental GT in Forza 3. Every racing game after that was won using the single rule I learned from those races: if you're fast and can't turn well, HOG THE ROAD. Bentley Continental GT's are quick but turn like a Mercedes Sprinter (think GMC Vandura or Box Truck), but what they lack in handling... they make up for it in weight. Good luck forcing one off the road in your lightweight/carbonfiber super car.

[@X_Weight_Reduction]

1:58 imagine just hearing this with no context

[@pawnix4122]

11:45 as a game developer, running split-screen has the same performance impact as running VR. Splitscreen means the computer or console has to render the game and game logic twice per frame for you and your friend. VR is the exact same, where your PC to console has to render the game twice per frame, one for your right eye and another for your left eye. Split-screen was easier to handle back in the day when games weren't graphically intense, but as games, today are so incredibly realistic most of the time, most people's computers simply wouldn't be able to render split-screen at ultra settings. You'd have to essentially take your current FPS on a single monitor, and half that. That's roughly what split-screen does.

[@OldTires]

Good to know! Thanks for the insight.

[@pawnix4122]

@OldTires this is not to say that technology isn't keeping up on the hardware side. This is merely just a rule of thumb to measure performance. A lot of time has to go into developing a splitscreen model, which may take time as well. I assume most developers chose not to bother with the interest in developing other areas more. (RTX 2080 and above can probably run split screen in most games if it was an option)

[@fordgtguy]

​@@OldTires It partly has to do with modern gaming technologies. Most games nowadays can thank their performance, especially on console, to techniques that help lower CPU/GPU demand. Split-screen is even worse than VR for this; at least with VR you are rendering two views in the same general FOV. Split-screen requires the hardware to render any two things that either person looks at. Even worse if a game allows you to separate from one another, as now the CPU might have to double its load. When it comes down to it, you can either maximize what can be offered without split-screen or you can limit the game in order to offer a playable split-screen experience. This is generally why modern split-screen in games is pretty bad; both looks terrible and generally performs poorly. Considering less than 1% of the forza-community plays split-screen, I think the former option is better.

[@costa-w3k]

This is true

[@pawnix4122]

@@costa-w3k We know, that's why we mentioned it, silly pilly

[@AloneRacecar]

Interesting video. I’ve never known that there was an “unwritten rule” in all my time playing Forza 7.

[@itskoder]

some of the funniest forza content i’ve ever seen. the way you just juke him out every time is absolutely hilarious.

[@OldTires]

Glad you got a laugh out of it 😁

[@oneevilchef]

Beach day barbie literally pulled a golfer's "Yasser Arafat:" a play that leaves you in the sand looking ugly.

[@Eutimias]

"I've been rammed in the behind by another man twice now" nice

[@merafirewing6591]

The minute you drive the GT40, you immediately become a target just like Speed Racer.

[@Beans-uj1jk]

Some people on forza don’t realize that it does not really matter if you have a good car, all that matters is that they have a good driver

[@xninja2369]

​@@Beans-uj1jkit does really matter specially on some track

[@Beans-uj1jk]

@@xninja2369 lmao I don’t even though wtf I was saying when I typed that

[@xninja2369]

@@Beans-uj1jk It might not matter if track has both balanced straight and good corners but some track tend to have long straight and tidious corner ..

[@drtarran678]

I used to play the GT40 and i never knew why i kept getting rammed, since i never rammed anyone else... now i know why LOL

[@Krush902]

Congrats on 2k subs man! I've only recently come in but seeing someone grow this quickly with genuine quality content is amazing

[@OldTires]

Thanks!! Appreciate it a ton and glad to have you here.

[@iruleharderthanyou12]

With the splitscreen thing. Normally you're only rendering one POV, and the things outside of your POV arent being rendered to help with performance. Thats why forza doesnt let you increase FOV on console. With splitscreen, your console has to render almost twice as much, and because forza is really just a graphics showcase game they'd rather focus on how good the game looks than optimise for a gamemode most peole dont even use nowadays. I dont care either way, I use performance mode every time.

[@OldTires]

Good know! Thanks man that makes sense.

[@GRIMEYtheFATMAN]

More specifically, they likely couldn't get it working specifically on Series S, like Baldur's Gate III. But because it's a first-party title, they're likely mandated to maintain feature parity on all versions, so rather than just cut it from the Series S version, like Baldur's Gate, it's not on any version...

[@paulyauley5593]

The dude didn't even buy you a drink first! 😂

[@OldTires]

Ikr! What's the deal with that?

[@negan2714]

I've ran the GT40 and didn't get this reaction from people. I genuinely love the car. The 488 Pizza and GT40 are 2 of my favorite cars ever made. Never knew there was an unspoken rule of not using the car till now.

[@NeymarSilvaJr11]

488 pizza lol😂

[@archonthaaproducer]

bro was driving like complete ass and then complaining that he was getting rammed talking about some unwritten rule and getting targeted

[@k-boi-501]

i love the random ass VW Bug there that's just off the side, far enough you don't notice him immediately, but just within view enough that when you do notice him, you burst out laughing because you weren't expecting him

[@Nicolas_lim15751]

I was readin this comment 6 seconds before the VW bettle showed up and i choked on water cause it did catch me off guard lol

[@garrysmodaddict3306]

I noticed that too, I'm watching Boom try to violate this guy then I just see this little beach bug poke out

[@geometryjosh21]

cant wait for the revolutionary Forza 8 to be no different than this 😁

[@OldTires]

Haha yeah I've still got my fingers crossed it will be good for better or worse

[@geometryjosh21]

@@OldTires im just happy it's coming to steam.

[@gamechip06]

I have bad news

[@AlexanderVonish]

@@gamechip06uh oh

[@YGsarah09]

It was built from the ground up and back down again

[@missedmurphy]

So many great moments in this video. Was fun to watch from beginning to end

[@OldTires]

Glad you liked it man!

[@aaronred345]

The graphics being too good for split screen actually makes sense. The game will have to render each frame twice, once for each player, and they're going to be different since each player sees something different. It's not like they can just "copy/paste" one player's scene to another

[@fireblow44]

Having never played this game in my life and not knowing if the cars are raced stock or modified here, I can't really judge the situation. But you explained the situation pretty well at the start of the video. Seeing as Boom only seems to target you because of your car choice I think his behaviour might be rectified

[@OldTires]

Yeah he's all good. He was just upholding the law 😀

[@fireblow44]

@@OldTires tbh as a fh5 player I'm not the fastest one on the track and I just try to have fun with some fun cars. I see meta builds all the time and besides not beeing fast enough to even try to ram them off course I also won't get any value out of it. So in my books that guy is pretty savage for his persistence in upholding "the rule"

[@SkylineLofe]

@@fireblow44 the difference is, you're comparing a game targeting kids to a game targeting those who actually like proper racing. The FM7 community is super chill, but the unwritten rules are something we follow because absolutely no one likes someone getting a free win just for using a meta car. The FH5 community couldn't care less because half of them can't drive, and the other half sweat online for some reason. There's really only a few players who care about vibing in FH5

[@noncog1]

Tbf he hit boom first anyway

[@oblied]

@@OldTiresi think he was just mad at u for pushing him at the start of the vid

[@samprentice1178]

4:35 "couple of guys that were edging.." 👀

[@Rrek]

This is the first video i've seen by this man and this is genuinely more interesting than actual F1 races and their narrating.

[@OldTires]

Thanks! It's tough to beat Crofty's F1 commentary but I try lol

[@Time2WatchUK]

Bro this was one of the funniest videos I've seen! They really didn't like you using that car! You kept your cool I would of been dashing the controller at the TV 😅😅

[@OldTires]

Lol If he was actually hitting me the controller probably would have been in the TV.

[@tsoppas]

I actually really like this game. I have both Xbox and PS5 and have also played GT7 but I gotta say there is just something different about trying to avoid all the rammers I actually enjoy it and I find it funny

[@D8OfficialMusic]

14:25 As a GO-KART driver, I almost punched the screen when I heard this

[@AmauryChihuahua]

11:40 In splitscreen you gotta render the scene twice which is more taxing even if its the same amount of pixels, that being said its easy to just reduce the graphics a bit

[@inisolationtvr9932]

Nice to see some quality content on this game. Great video man

[@OldTires]

Thank you thank you 👍

[@UltLolly]

Your videos actually got me back into this game and im enjoying it more than horizon

[@OldTires]

That's awesome to hear man! I'm sure I'll see you online.

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

It’s pretty simple to understand the split screen thing. Because it’s such an extremely high fidelity game, it’s very difficult to render twice at the same time effectively. You can’t just run the game twice at the same time with no consequence

[@kev2034]

You only have to render what's in view of the players, everything else can be at a lower detail or nixed entirely.

[@fordgtguy]

@@kev2034 You have to render what's in both players views, that is literally up to double depending on each players FOV. You also have to calculate full physics for both players cars at the same time. Option 1: Make the game worse for less than .1% of player base that uses split-screen. Option 2: Make the game as best as possible and sacrifice split-screen.

[@kev2034]

@@fordgtguy It does typically cost more to develop you're not wrong there and it isn't as popular as it used to be (although I think that largely comes down to it being cut out of games) but I think the fact online play has gotten more popular and stable is kinda what helped developers justify the switch too. You can make more money from players if they have to buy a copy to play with friends, plus the increasing popularity of microtransactions definitely cemented the nixing of the feature and sticking with online only multiplayer. I hope UE5 might help to bring it back though since Nanite could actually help with optimizing for a splitscreen game, but that might just be wishful thinking.

[@isthisagoodname6279]

I love how there ramming you for having the gt40 on the Nurburgring. Which is known to be a track that caters to good handling cars not cars with high top speed.

[@flakeylynx149]

This car is good at handling as well

[@Sscorpyo]

As a gran turismo player, it surprises me how I’ve seen more ramming in this video than I’ve seen in my whole life

[@OldTires]

It's calmed down quite a bit now that the game has been out for so long but it still happens every once in a while 😉

[@Skrotobagins]

S Class is notoriously bad in forza. Just a mixture of people who can't control their car and others that want to ram. The lower classes tend to be much better. C Class is best for really close competitive racing in my opinion.

[@CheersMateStuff]

Bro, if I saw anyone driving this fire around, I'd act as a meat shield. The GT40 is the greatest American car of all time.

[@real_terminalgt]

historic car championship rome circuit moment

[@Onyx-The-Synth]

He played too much GT2

[@OldTires]

I had to look it up haha yeah that GT reference went right over my head.

[@real_terminalgt]

@@Onyx-The-Synth i only beat it once and i didnt encounter the gt40 at the historical car champion ship

[@abdulhameedal-sikafi8944]

Forza fans are actually fun to talk to and cruise with, but other than that they will really hate on you during races, even if it’s not just the 40 lol

[@blakenowling]

your outtro song flooded my head with memories. thank you.

[@OldTires]

You got it! 😀

[@TopSecretName]

I never knew about this. The GT40 is my favorite car of all time. Guess it’s a good thing I never played a Forza Motorsport title lmao

[@levievil9220]

2:32 respect to the guy driving herbie in a race against lambos and faster cars

[@josephj807]

Fr

[@flamisfire]

This makes so much sense now… the gt40 is my dream car irl and so manny ppl bullied me for no reason. I’m glad I saw this

[@mbgmadbull1141]

I can only imagine how many people were cussing you out something fierce bud. also iirc the best overall S class car was a toss up between the nobel M600 and the Lotus elise GT1/Lambo Diablo GT1 as they were on par with one another.

[@OldTires]

Lol yeah some expletives were I'm sure thrown in my direction. The M600 is a beast.

[@virtuousevent]

I have not been into Forza for so long and your video made me watch Forza content again! You have earned a sub!

[@OldTires]

That's so awesome to hear dude! Welcome 😁

[@predi2137]

we hate boom random sequence of numbers

[@mehdihere2222]

Wow, first time on this channel cuz this vid got recommended. Half way through I pull back to see if this video is old cuz FM7, and I'm surprised. I Look at your subscriber count and I'm surprised again. Cuz the commentary over the gameplay is v.good and its relaxing. Not too much and not too little. I thought you might have at least 100k subs but no. So I'm subscribing. .

[@OldTires]

Thanks dude! Glad to have you here 👍. I'm relatively new to YT but will be posting plenty more!

[@rocker1052]

I've seen this so many times lol Although I get a lot of bumps after doing nothing most of the time, as I usually drive a heavily tuned crown vic oops

[@OldTires]

Haha yeah for some reason those crown vics become magnets for bumps

[@doggofv]

I do somewhat understand this unwritten rule as if your trying to have a fair competetion and one person has a far superior car it isnt really fun. Its to the point where everyone would have to use that car and you wouldnt be able to use other cars you like if you wanna win. Imagine entering a marathon and some dude brings a bicycle. Or probably a better analogy you enter a bike race and some guy brings an e-bike Youd be pissed at them

[@jaxon0_0]

Sucks cause I genuinely just love the gt40 as a car not even cause it’s broken so this shit would confuse me sm if some dude did this shit to me😂

[@KeineStrande]

that battle for 1st around 9min was extremely entertaining. great stuff

[@itskyansaro]

Imagine having such a fragile ego that it bothers you which car someone else uses. If it's so much better use it yourself.

[@PaperBanjo64]

Damn straight! This kinda shit is why I only play Mario Kart online,have no desire to hear a bunch of kids yelling and verbally abusing everyone or possibly pissing somebody off for accidental contact.

[@ultrawaveyt5582]

11:31 visual fidelity is high which means a lot of performance goes into rendering what you see onscreen. splitscreen would require double the performance because everything is rendered twice.

[@matheusgomes4100]

if its not written it is not a rule

[@Wyte_Knight]

About the splitscreen part, it's a well known problem nowadays. You just can't keep up this framerate at this resolution on consoles. Yes, you can ship with the game lowest quality textures to be used when splitscreen is on, adding to the game size. You can also reduce by various means, like the FPS themselves, some various things, but in the end people will dislike it. Either it will be too ugly for them, or FPS won't be stable and they will cry about it. Better to dodge the bullet. For the record, Call of Duty had those kind of issues and is notorious for being more ideous in splitscreen then in solo, and it's not only because the render itself is less large, it's also because the overall resolution is greatly reduced.

[@surkey5055]

Imagine if ferrari just started ramming the Gt40s when they started loosing

[@OldTires]

Ford vs. Ferrari but Forza edition. The rivalry reborn!

[@bapoTV]

About that splitscreen implementation you were talking about, it actually makes sense. Basically, the game itself renders a high fidelity 3d environnement in real time as you know but in split screen it has to render 2 3d environnements at the same time, which is possible with lower graphics since the GPU will have to render less but 2 times. So you will not be able to render 2 times a high fidelity environnement, and they probably thought that since less people use splitscreen in games anyway, they wouldn't bother making it so they don't need to create new presets of graphics etc... And I'm pretty sure in older Forza Motorsports they halved the FPS in order to get 2 environnements at 30 fps instead of one at 60 fps. I hope you understand my gibberish.

[@OldTires]

Good to know! Thanks dude.

[@harryswinburne9288]

This is why i play in lobbies with collision off

[@OldTires]

That's a high IQ decision. I am not that smart...

[@S1NT0VA]

This reminds me of payback so much where people got mad at anyone who was fast using a runner spec car in speedlist despite the fact runner spec tend to have low stats compared to the race spec

[@Setuaro]

I've actually never really given a damn about "unwritten rules" in any game unless it's overly obviously scummy. I play what I just find to be a lot of fun, simple as. But yeah, that Boooom guy was really bad at ramming lmao

[@niklas2650]

Can’t wait to join some FM8 online races…

[@OldTires]

I'm looking forward to it man!

[@dummmonke4269]

"Man I really like this car that goes vroom vroom and goes really fast!" Random S Class nerd: "Nah we can't have that today."

[@Unverified32]

3:43 bro thought he was shingo

[@OldTires]

Had to look up who Shingo was lol is it anime? I'll have to give it a watch.

[@wildsword6856]

​​@@OldTiresinitial d you're welcome

[@IamJay02]

Your narration is really good and entertaining lmao

[@OldTires]

Hey thanks dude! Yeah I miss Super GTs videos. Basically the whole reason I'm doing this haha

[@IamJay02]

@@OldTires I love super gt been watching him for years

[@458DESTRO]

Depending on what kind of day the guy was having you running into him while on a straightaway could have been enough to make him want to mess with you until you or him quit. Unless you weren’t paying attention to your own game play you did hit the guy on a straight where there isn’t really an excuse for doing so.

[@calcinho]

Damn a 10/10 channel, this style of video is just amazing

[@ESVGriffin]

I can’t even lie, seeing someone driving a GT40 in a public lobby getting rammed makes me happy But really, I almost never have a problem with people’s car choice. But every time I see someone in a GT40, or a car of equal OP status, they drive like a melon. Cutting the track, hitting others, while in the best car. That’s why people get annoyed with people who choose these cars in my experience

[@OldTires]

It brings a smile to my face too man 😀 I recognize your name from the leaderboards btw wicked fast lap times dude. Happy racing!

[@2SmokeyGuru]

Forza Motorsport 2 used to have a specific glitch with the GT40 and tuning, tuned in a specific way would make it so 250mph in reverse 😂

[@firedell1031]

Idk what all happened before you started recording, but I can almost guarantee you that Boom only rammed you because you hit him on a straight. Actually, the only people that seemed to ram you on purpose were the people you hit first. Like, I don't think anybody touched you *because* of the GT40 pick.

[@roadtrain_]

Agreed and disagreed, boom was very much going for him for more than 1 reason but most other drivers seemed to exact revenge because from what I've seen this guy ain't really that clean of a racer either.

[@lanceuppercut6168]

I was thinking the same. Cutting corners, sideswiping others, and just generally not clean racing. Looking back constantly made it even worse.

[@claudetheclaudeqc6600]

@@roadtrain_ look at 0:40 someone stated that the creator of the video did try to make him run out of a straight into terrain that isn't like asphalt or concrete

[@RoyxlPFX]

The Pixel Car Racer music at the end is just golden.

[@OldTires]

It's just such a good song

[@RoyxlPFX]

@@OldTires You telling me, mate? I remember kicking ass in my M5. Deleted it awhile ago, at Lvl. 42 but I plan to download it back soon.

[@Dice-Head]

I applaud Boooom random number sequence, when game companies dont take action against poor game design/balance, players gotta do it themselves

[@Naniss1965]

Dude i freaking love your video! The Ford GT40 is honestly the most badass American race car ever!🇺🇲🏁 I can see how some people online were probably jealous of how fast the ford "OP40" was...😂

[@OldTires]

OP40 is right! 😁

[@therealncast]

0:40 - Not even 30 seconds into the race, tries to push Booooooom off the road on a straight 0:49 - "And what do you know - not even 30 seconds into the race, I'm poll-vaulting 30 ft into the air." You're right, it's the car. Because *you're* driving it 😂

[@cubondemais]

About the split screen: For every car on the screen they need a camera and a completely separate rendering of the game with less pixels. For example: for 2 cars we need to render twice half of the screen pixels instead of once all the pixels of the screen. For 4 we need to render a quarter of the screen's pixels 4 times. In the end we render the same amount of pixels, but we have to do the whole process of rendering 4 times. There are 3 problems with that: 1. For each render there's base performance cost. Some calculations that have to be done for each camera. That could help consume performance of the GPU. 2. The renders cannot happen at the same time (as far as I know). Since having one camera or 4 cameras we only have the same amount of frame time (for 60 fps that would be 16ms) to render all cameras, we might not be able to fit sequentially rendering all player views in a 16ms timeframe (specially if a single camera takes most of the frametime normally). 3. For each render we need to load all the things/assets that are being shown. If we have one camera, that uses a certain amount of VRAM. If we have 4 cameras, that uses 4 times the amount of VRAM, or we load assets 4 times, which will take a lot longer. That is worst case, maybe some assets are shared, specially if you're right behind each other, but we must be prepared for worst cases. What would be the solution for this? Either lowering FPS and/or visual fidelity, or optimizing, or forcing consoles/PCs to have better hardware (this last one is impossible, since the hardware is already determined by the released consoles). They could totally lower the visual experience to allow for split screen or spend time optimizing, but that could cost even more money and take a hit at their reputation for graphical fidelity. But I think the deal breaker for them is: having split screen probably lowers the number of copies sold and money made, since people don't expect split screen that much anymore and each split screen player is one less copy sold. Friends will just accept and have 2 consoles and 2 copies, as they grow up and perceive that as the normal thing.

[@PeteBaldwin]

6:49 - "this was the best overall race of the week - no smashing, no crashing" Proceeds to crash into someone at turn 2, turn 3 and turn 4. Then hits the wall on the exit of 4, gets through turn 5 clean and crashes into someone at turn 6. Turn 7 is uneventful but then goes off the track at turn 8 and almost spins in turn 9 before the camera cuts. Brilliant.

[@joshua-kramer]

There wasn't a single clean line in this video, even when bro was racing himself. Simcade games let people think they have skill.

[@danielyakeemovich9091]

I've used the GT40 plenty of times in A class and never encountered people ramming me at every moment they can i just get lobies where people dont care what car you run seeing as thats the point of Forza to have the freedom of using the cars you want

[@sebastiang3886]

It's funny that people get mad over a few pixels on the screen. I mean none of us are professional race car drivers... so what's the point of getting mad over said pixels on the screen

[@OldTires]

Exactly! I think it's silly.

[@BluClair]

Sucks to see one of my favourite supercars being hated just because it's good in a specific racing game.

[@Beencheeling]

Jim was a real chad he was all on **defending** and he allmost won what a epic race

[@helloScuffed]

Imagine how exciting it is to race the same cars over and over again. Oh boy, I can't wait for the next race in the Ford GT40 Cup series. Since no one used a car other than the Ford GT40 in the A and S classes, there was no point in competing in them. So people stopped using the Ford GT40 in these classes.

[@SolarFarer]

This is your best motorsport video yet!🤣 boom is a certified hater! and then gets an instant redemption arch😂

[@OldTires]

Thanks! Lol yeah he got what was coming for him 😁

[@goose93000]

8:45 that was so satisfying watching the defense of the other guy

[@Dr_Monitor]

As a devout Forza player (though these days I mostly play FH5), I say to hell with the sweaty Motorsport players. Play the “banned” cars. Make the tryhards have an aneurysm and BE THE PROBLEM.

[@OldTires]

Haha I love it

[@clonetrooper576]

God bless you for not throwing your controller playing Forza 7. I always get rammed so much and I get unconsciously angry. So to have fun, i usually just wait 30 secs and stay at the back

[@holdenivy4481]

I'm a programmer and it seems easy for them to add split screen

[@Saturdaynightz]

binging your channel's videos rn they are so good and fun

[@deadmilkman121]

The gt40 is the reason boom(random sequence of numbers) is now and forever an ultra turbo virgin.

[@SanchezS1998]

I remember always using the GT40 in Forza Horizon 4 just because I loved everything about it in that game and especially with the setup I had going. One of the few cars I made work with a personal tune.

[@skyline5220]

Nah I respect Boom, enforcing the rule

[@OldTires]

Fair enough... 😀

[@egg0534]

There's no "rule", It's just bunch of nerds trying to get a better car banned because the don't like It

[@skyline5220]

@@egg0534 Do you really want a lobby of comp filled with the same car? Bro, you seem like the type to use a Oppressor Mk2 in gta

[@zoltangt07]

@@skyline5220man definitely uses godmode in gta, powerbuilds in fh5, riot shields in COD, etc 😭

[@skyline5220]

@@zoltangt07 Exactly, losing isn’t fun and if players across a server are leveling a playing field that’s good, developers need things for a reason

[@agitatedtofu2511]

while I do think in cases where a car, or character is just op and generally disliked if used, in the case of sim racing and racing games, ramming a car into oblivion is infuriating if youre just trying to race clean, especially in sims, just a scummy thing to do, more so than using an op car or whatever imo

[@GarageHaruo]

What I do in the crew 2 is if I'm using a good car and someone isn't. I race my normal race until I get to the end and then I wait for everyone to finish and then I finish after. And I only use meta if someone spams meta first.

[@OldTires]

👍

[@FritzAkamiri]

a good man, i see