Forza Motorsport: Starting From the Back is NUTS

So, I did a few races starting from the back this week. Was it a good idea? Yes, for the giggles. No, for my sanity.
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Forza Motorsport 7 Gameplay on Xbox Series X|S in 2023.
Outro Song: • Pixel Car Racer Theme ...
0:00 Laguna Seca - BMW M3 Spec
4:57 Mid-Ohio - BMW M3 Spec
8:37 Indianapolis - Forza GT
14:47 Mugello - Forza GT

[@dakotasden4982]

That yellow Ferrari was in assisted/auto drive mode. It’s the AI trying to get on the suggested line ASAP 😂

[@OldTires]

That is some genius programming haha

[@dakotasden4982]

6 years & built from the ground up 😌👌👌

[@JedGames]

@@dakotasden4982I am so tired of them saying it’s built from the ground up. It’s clearly not🤣

[@r32marcus]

"The down force of Lizzo" I'm crying 🤣

[@OldTires]

We're all about tasteful commentary here on the channel haha

[@VietnamG]

Nothing better than another classic by Joey

[@OldTires]

😄

[@sevanii_v8059]

"While you thought COVID was the biggest threat going around , stupid is also going round and everybody is catching it" - old tires 2023 More accurate words have never been spoken especially this year.😅

[@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious]

I unintentionally read the comment right as he was saying it in the video

[@andenthal1952]

6:57 "Thinks he's in the Matrix dodging bullets, didn't dodge me" 🤣

[@OldTires]

It's not every day you get to race Keanu Reeves lol

[@bassface8580]

That's some hilarious commentary haha. The rammer with the sweaty thumb. Love it

[@OldTires]

Ive gotta admit... my thumbs get sweaty too haha

[@Veneno2911]

Gotta love some nice clean racing. Got 20 smth second penalty from someone ramming me through the last couple of corners at le mans and forced me to cut the corner

[@OldTires]

The Forza penalty system is all knowing and we must submit to it's terrible decisions 🤣

[@parttimeconstruction2933]

You deserve more viewers big dawg

[@OldTires]

Thanks dude appreciate ya!

[@omgitspylot4411]

The best part about starting from the back is you don’t get sucked into that turn one mayhem

[@OldTires]

Right on! It's a blessing and a curse.

[@keeithvaz]

“I don’t have a lot of knowledge, but what I have I will give” - T-shirt material right there

[@combatking9985]

Did not think I’d see something as chaotic as the crew motorfest’s Grand races, but those first turns go crazy

[@pkrskinkaphant4612]

the downforce of lizzo is crazy 😭

[@oppos727]

Love how you pushed 2 guys wide in the first lap

[@OldTires]

No the road clearly turned into me...

[@nk54woibu40]

Fun fact, drafting on someone makes them lose down force somehow

[@user-qd1co6wj2p]

Saw the video you are talking about! Another reason this game is so amazing..

[@OldTires]

Interesting! I guess they're going for a dirty air effect.

[@Thijs-Visch]

​​@@OldTiresYeah, but somehow reversed

[@nk54woibu40]

@@OldTires it's like a reverse dirty air effect where the car in front loses downforce!

[@wyland_6247]

@@user-qd1co6wj2pcan’t lie I’ve been doing that in stock ladder matches, you’re driving slow? Say less 🤣

[@guilhermereichardt916]

Your videos allways crack me up, dude! Very nice work ^^

[@OldTires]

Glad you like them!

[@EyePatchGuy88]

"Don't you guys just feel so bad for him?.... Eat shit." Laughed my tongue out.

[@wyland_6247]

I personally love starting in the rear and trying to work my way through the sea of fish, seeing ^23 is wild 🤣

[@OldTires]

In Forza 7, there was an achievement for going from 24 to 1. Not sure if it's in the new one but I'm going for it either way!

[@wyland_6247]

@@OldTires yeah just got the climb 12 positions, the ford puma for D class was the only thing keeping up with the meta Miata’s

[@GK_Squid]

I always start at the back. I dont feel safe starting at the front of the pack because classic forza first turn shenanigans. Its fun putting pressure on players and fighting my way up the grid

[@OldTires]

Couldn't agree more! Working through the pack is always good fun. Disastrous for the ratings but good fun lol

[@stevo8825]

I've been binging your videos since I found your channel today. They are SO entertaining and hilarious. I died laughing at all of the lawn mower jokes hahaha. Keep up the good work!

[@OldTires]

Hey! Welcome to the channel man. Plenty more lawn mower jokes coming 😄

[@JedGames]

This video is literally the definition of Nikita mazepins driving. Keep up the great work! Can’t wait for the next one

[@OldTires]

You're right on Jed!

[@ShadowViperGaming43]

"Flying d*ldo" absolutely killed me for some reason, I left a like just for that XD

[@cjscarsandcrap1749]

Dang, the little antennae on the Bimmer made me think there was a speck of lint on my screen for the longest time. Im high, good night.

[@zross3357]

Glad i found this channel, feel like there will be 100k+ subscribers very soon. I also feel like you would make hilarious gta race content. Keep up the great work, your killin it

[@OldTires]

Welcome to the channel! I might have to make some GTA 6 racing videos in the future 😉

[@scotthutchings]

My fave new word is when you say SHENANIGANS 👍👍.

[@MrAsus4870]

Damn, that intro killed me XD i don't even play this game, but love your videos, this channel is gonna be huge soon

[@OldTires]

Appreciate it man! Glad you're enjoying the videos 😄

[@Zanooz]

First video ive seen of yours, the commentary was on point 😂

[@OldTires]

Welcome to the channel!

[@manidontknow]

17:03 that was crazy

[@zey2k]

Agreed, its a chaos, but maaaan... You contributed a little bit 🤣

[@OldTires]

Yes I did for sure 🤣

[@bent4526]

very entertaining video, keep it up. ❤

[@OldTires]

Will do! Thanks for watching 😄

[@CR3W072]

8:40 I KNEW it was a bad sign when I saw the Ferrari 🫡

[@OldTires]

Haha ikr

[@The_Gamerverse]

that wing gives you the "the downforce of lizzo"🤣🤣🤣

[@NegerKim]

Damn, I wanna race with you, you are experiencing the EXACT same things in Forza Motorsport that I do, haha! My thirst for revenge (while powering through the field, err, the field on track that is) is bigger though! :D c",)

[@OldTires]

I'll be doing some open lobbies so we can racing soon 😄 just gotta figure out the internet. Internet guy has come out to install some faster stuff and we'll it ain't working yet lol

[@RageRaccoon]

"the road turned into me" is a line i am 100% gonna steal

[@nicolasmeister2170]

man never misses

[@anthonyt219]

Thanks for reminding me never to race online lol

[@justinburton918]

😂 most of the time I let the corner blasters go and pass em when they miss the next corner...... rinse ..... repeat... a few laps and you're up front

[@OldTires]

It's amazing what you can achieve in Forza when you plan on the other drivers screwing up lol

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

That penalty system looks like an unfiltered rage generator. What on Earth were they thinking with this game? The just gave us all the finger, and then decided to rub it in with this penalty system.

[@OldTires]

They gave us the double bird for sure 🤣

[@SiCaRiI_DaGgEr]

My good man you won me at the slight of hand Covid jab @1m ...lol That shit was classic and your commentary reminds me of "Honey Badger" 🤣

[@MetalGamer666]

I like how Monkey Matrix didn't get a penalty for flipping your car.

[@OldTires]

Par.for the course in Forza lol

[@forzatube06]

nice bro

[@lukedanielgalon1596]

Lovin the commentary

[@OldTires]

Thanks! Glad to hear it 😄

[@swarmsurge3906]

I love starting from the back makes it more fun

[@OldTires]

Agreed! It's fun navigating the chaos

[@oseisasu826]

OT is back with another atrocious driving I love it

[@OldTires]

Oh yes the disgraceful driving returns!

[@fpvtrucker129]

I think you have to race at the right times of the day when kids are in school and at night when the drunks are ready to pass out . I was in a race in the GT class on forza and I started 23 and by the time we hit the end of the first strait there was so many crashes I went into the first turn and was in 6th place but that did not get me out of that turn someone took me out. So almost three fourths of the cars had been taken out on the first strait.

[@OldTires]

I think you're right! Timing is everything.

[@edgarandresgarayospina207]

What game can I play that has a similar matchmaking or multiplayer system but that has way better gameplay? I play assetto corsa but it is so hard to set up and find races. Is there anything like that?

[@tylerwinterrowd8212]

The commentary was absolutely hilarious

[@OldTires]

Glad you liked it man!

[@JohnBollocks-qo2kh]

Your commentary is godly 😂😂

[@OldTires]

Thanks man!

[@ethanlynch8761]

I’ve been starting from the rear on purpose so I can avoid the T1 shenanigans. Whenever I qualify high on the grid, I get punted into the shadow realm. But starting from the back you just get to pass all the idiots that are bashing each other

[@OldTires]

Probably for the best haha T1 is always an adventure.

[@GHGxJonnyxGHG]

13:00 You're right, when we pit, it's to refuel ourselves

[@OldTires]

Darn right!

[@cameron7187]

You did that black BMW DIRTY

[@OldTires]

It wasn't my finest moment...

[@fastestmonkey6259]

"built from the ground up"💀 How do the devs get away with this lol Ive heard though the next update is supposed to have alot of bug fixes whicu i can only hope will fix the horribel state that forza motorsport online is in lol. Nice video joey ❤

[@OldTires]

Another wild Forza launch 🤣 yeah I watched the Forza Monthly stream and the devs they had on kept saying how PROUD they are of the fixes in the next update. I think it would have been better to be PROUD of putting a game out without the bugs in the first place. Forza logic.

[@dnboii4404]

Yellow Ferrari is using the auto turning and acceleration assist. I experienced what he did once while using all assists to coast a rating lol

[@OldTires]

Gotcha. Gotta love the new and improved AI lol

[@falcongamer5867]

Is it just me or do the cars in front lose some grip as soon as you get close to them? Edit: also at 11:29 you lost grip as soon as the car behind you got close

[@Akatsuki92Itachi]

Skill rating seems like a complete lie or not working, in my experience the quality of the races and opponents went down when going from low 4k to high 4k sr

[@OldTires]

Yeah the ratings seem to be a non-factor at the back of the pack rn.

[@lesanjisan2989]

This is so funny

[@Hakeraiden]

Just imagine if the collision was as crew motorfest instead of half the time ghosts

[@OldTires]

It would be a mess haha

[@hellbent650]

"From the ground up."

[@tylery7881]

Starting at the front is worse. At least when you start at the back of the grid you can avoid all of the chaos easier. From the front you catch all of it going into the first turn.

[@aadipai]

I like how he gets no penalty for flipping your car. Fair.

[@OldTires]

The penalty system is all knowing. I wouldn't dare go against it 🤣

[@terrible1fi]

There is no radar feature. Because of that online races are like bumper cars

[@fluxsiarski]

7:23 no penalty for him Fair

[@OldTires]

The Forza gods said no penalty so it must be true haha

[@DrkNeoX]

That 488 was still in auto/assisted lol

[@OldTires]

Lol makes sense. Hell of a move from the auto drive.

[@un-trackable5705]

I live at the back. I'm never fast, so the mistakes of others is my gain. Much love

[@eg6nate]

Are you recording on OBS or narrating over replays?

[@OldTires]

I record the gameplay I'm OBS and narrate over the recordings.

[@nuyoricanc3]

8:38 That car cut over exactly how it does if you set all the assists on for ai to drive for you. Wouldn’t surprise me if some folks just turn the assists on and just leave the game to do something else.

[@xXcajunblazeXx]

I did that to see if full assists would work in multiplayer and it does work lmao

[@Manan_K]

Classic Forza Motorsport lobbies are back. (inner peace) 😌

[@OldTires]

Oh yes they are back lol

[@alexandergardner2640]

You should try a vid with hypercar lobbys, they get hectic here is Australia

[@OldTires]

I'll give it a shot! I foresee a lot of spinning out in my future 😂

[@nothingleft99]

downforce of lizzo is crazyyy

[@pker51]

Starting from the back is better than starting in the middle

[@jayjayp9618]

In that collision maybe the guy was playing on a wheel coz it can be hella hard to catch the car after the slightest bump

[@OldTires]

Definitely could have been the case

[@Sentinel-Music]

that yellow corvette was playing with full assists active, your car only does that if you start a track with them on he is afk probably farming cxp

[@OldTires]

Nothing makes me happier than getting cut off by AI lol

[@Josie238]

Starting from the back is actually the best spot to be. I’ll probably never get first but atleast I’m not getting sent to the moon and avoiding game pad kids with no sense of track awareness is difficult on wheel😂

[@OldTires]

That's true it does eliminate the turn one chaos... Most of the time 😂

[@Felix-hv6gj]

Maybe they implement safety rating later on

[@jaylowkeyeezy3618]

Ashy WHAT 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jakkor1106]

This is why i play gt7 and asseto corsa more never really get into forza for this exact reason

[@ultramk9459]

Need some more motorfest

[@spaz468]

The other day I was playing forza horizon 5 online and usually it’s not bad but I got 5 lobbies in a row with ramtards who couldn’t even beat the ai

[@cjskater2006]

Devon did a video trying to get the lowest rating possible and he still got matched with a player that had 4900. He apparently asked him after that player won the race. I think the ratings are just a number and it just matches first come first served in your region or something.

[@OldTires]

That makes sense. Can't see anyway it's actually matchmaking based on ratings at this point.

[@MrBudderTacoMBT]

Top 4 positions of every lobby are racing gods while every other position is made up of people using a controller for the first time

[@44MagnumNA]

10:28 you current or former military? It's not everyday one hears the term SITREP being thrown out casually lol

[@GalactusTheDestroyer]

No matter your skill rating or safety rating, not qualifying is the worst thing you can do or not do rather. I've been doing the starting from the back and over 80% of the time my race is ruined by rammers. Also I HATE you have to drive 3 laps to qualify. In GT7, you only need one! 3 is just overkill. Let us do it in 1 but if we want to keep going, we can!

[@hdsandtoes5211]

You only need to set 1 lap time to qualify out of the 3 laps, you don’t need to do all 3 qualification laps. Just go back into practice after doing qualification if there’s extra time left.

[@GalactusTheDestroyer]

@@hdsandtoes5211 ah didn't know that. Thanks!

[@colinmack2566]

2:02 dude's out here complaining about other drivers, meanwhile he's murdering enough people to get his own Netflix documentary

[@LilWatercup]

In my experience, the skill rating only helps at the upper end. I'm S safety rating at just over 4800 skill rating and the races are pretty damn clean. I jumped on my dad's account to help him with some achievments. He barely touched multiplayer so I was racing at S safety rating and around 2500-3500 skill rating. The races were an absolute nightmare, especially for those achievements. Who the hell knows. For me, it seems like safety rating has almost no impact on opponents, and it's all based on skill rating. Although, I would imagine your skill rating is pretty damn up there as well.

[@OldTires]

First of all, epic profile pic! Second, yeah I've seen much the same thing. I've done some races with buddies at lower skill ratings but S tier safety and its like the world is ending every race.

[@LilWatercup]

​@OldTires Haha, thanks. Gotta love Owen Wilson and his trademark "wow". Such a wholesome dude

[@DenHviteBaldr]

The whole system is a big BS. Im at 4950 right now with A rating (i have the 10 races' achivement with S rating), but all of my lobbies are full of rammers and incompetent fellows, it seems the rating system means literary nothing.

[@LilWatercup]

@DenHviteBaldr Damn that sucks. I must just be getting lucky then. System definitely needs work.

[@LilWatercup]

@DenHviteBaldr I'm curious: which series are you mostly doing? I've been doing the Touring Car and M3 Spec series' and finding cleaner races. I've found Forza GT to be the most chaotic, so far.

[@esdrasmanrique6457]

You a funny guy

[@OldTires]

Thanks dude!

[@brucetrathen8011]

“…..the downforce of Lizzo……..” ! Had me shitting my pants……now they the color of Lizzo with a Forza racing stripe! Always make me laugh and I thank you for that.

[@RileyVanAlstyne]

New to the channel, is this Motorsport 8?

[@OldTires]

Welcome! Yep it's the new motorsport.

[@peekay120]

How the hell MonkeyMatrix didnt get a penalty for fully pit manourving you and then literally burger flipping you is absolutely beyond me, a move like that irl would probably be a lifetime ban

[@OldTires]

The Forza penalty system is flawless 😂

[@adamjugasek6098]

“The downforce of Lizzo” 😂😂😂💀

[@Cookiemaster98_98]

daddy in a bavarian baddie

[@SC-cb3vq]

My sweet sweet summer child it is pronounced “ouddie”, not “awddie” love you and thanks for the entertaining videos

[@randomfacts2001]

i love motorsport yeah, but wheres the motorfest man its so funny imo

[@gaetanl-blain2829]

I hope they will put a damage system like GT7 have already and with fixing all forza

[@Kevin-ch9ch]

LOL Flippin

[@tertiasnyman9093]

30 seconds, damn

[@blackdynomite3892]

People think they’re gonna get from 12th to first in one lap, unwilling to be patient and just race the people around you, it ls usually unlikely your gonna move up to 1st from 10th, also not ALL corners are passing opportunities..

[@lcrowe2011]

Yeah, longer races and damage would go a long way to chill the aggression and weed out the casuals right away.

[@dstedy]

I don't think skill or safety rating ends up meaning anything with the 'reverse dirty air' effect in the game to impersonate close racing. Everyone smashes at the back because you lose downforce when someone is close behind you, causing everyone to lose control as the cars become inconsistent.

[@TheTrollTrollyYeti]

The funny part is the AI duplicates this same behavior. Trying to start from the back with constant break checking and agro AI on level 6 and all assist off is a blast 😐

[@OldTires]

So true 🤣 Gotta love it

[@ChimaeraCarnage]

F in the chat for yellow Ferrari yeaayouu 😔😔😔😔😔

[@shfd3832]

playing with controller or steering wheel?

[@OldTires]

Controller

[@shfd3832]

@@OldTires controller settings

[@laserfoxpro]

“the downforce of lizzo” old tires -2023

[@OldTires]

It was an interesting way to explain it but I think it got the point across lol