Oliver Bullough - Russian Money in London Permeated its Service Sector & Secured Political Influence

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@piseag458
@piseag458 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Panama papers, that would make for a fascinating talk with Oliver too.
@philgee7249
@philgee7249 Жыл бұрын
We haven't heard a lot about them lately....
@piseag458
@piseag458 Жыл бұрын
@@philgee7249 am a bit amazed we heard anything about them at all in the first place..
@stephensuddick1896
@stephensuddick1896 Жыл бұрын
It is the seemingly immutable human failing of greed that will be the end of us all.
@davidmiles-hanschell
@davidmiles-hanschell Жыл бұрын
Spot on;the future is more grim than ever.
@18_rabbit
@18_rabbit Жыл бұрын
@@davidmiles-hanschell erm, big NOPE, if we simply continue to greatly improve the integrity of financial systems, rules, laws, courts, AND have a military coalition of the willing, e.g. JEF, the ten nation group within Nato, that likely WILL at some pt be forced to finish this war up in full form.
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday Жыл бұрын
​@@18_rabbit Good, but first we must look to our own personal integrity.
@jamesleonard2870
@jamesleonard2870 Жыл бұрын
In 1984 I spent the year in London with sone of my friends from Northern California. I talked to one of them that stayed on about a year later and he called it Londongrad. We were motorcycle messengers and could see it happening!
@gregsutton2400
@gregsutton2400 Жыл бұрын
Great interview of a fine guest
@dukenukem8381
@dukenukem8381 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is like a breath of fresh air!
@albertlevert2988
@albertlevert2988 Жыл бұрын
Now that I’ve gone to the end of the interview I can confirm that this is a very powerful message that was delivered by both of you. Having worked in the financial services industry (not in the UK) I know quite a lot in this field. The fight against the abuse of the financial system by corrupt and/or criminal actors has to be global. It is a bit like the fight against global warming. If you are the only one to do it you’ll never be as effective as if there is a coordinated global effort. For this we need a global governance. Unfortunately we are quite far from it.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
The insights are mostly Oliver’s - but when I heard him speak at an event last year, I knew he had a critically important message.
@albertlevert2988
@albertlevert2988 Жыл бұрын
@@SiliconCurtain you are doing a fantastic job! Thank you.
@piseag458
@piseag458 Жыл бұрын
Well said,if true it's a thought that brexit came about partly to do with the EU finding and closing tax loopholes
@mrnobody3161
@mrnobody3161 Жыл бұрын
​​@@piseag458 If its true? Truth does not need our acknowledgment of it for it to exist. It most certainly does not need your acknowledgment for Truth to exist. Brexit was most certainly a Psychological Warfare Program perpetrated by ruZZian propaganda, misinformation, disinformation and malinformation. Most Brexiteers who voted for Brexit are either wilfully ignorant, in denial or too prideful to admit they were duped.
@piseag458
@piseag458 Жыл бұрын
@@mrnobody3161 yes I'm being diplomatic because I'm a bit wearied arguing rampant Brexiters over that notion that they were either willingly or accidentally deceived by the most wonderful prospect of Brexit.. we're still waiting for that wonderfulness and what it looks like.. most people don't appreciate what they had until they haven't got it anymore
@markb8468
@markb8468 Жыл бұрын
Yet another Illuminating and insightful interview Jonathan! Thank you once again.
@annakaczor5031
@annakaczor5031 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I hope UK will put a lid on this.
@neilclay5835
@neilclay5835 Жыл бұрын
Ahh you have the venerable Mr Bulllough, fantastic.
@wingedpearloyster
@wingedpearloyster Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to learn about how the oligarch system arose in Russia and Britain's role in that chapter of history. Brilliant show, thanks very much!
@dlmsarge8329
@dlmsarge8329 Жыл бұрын
Jonathan! Another terrific interview, along with a cup of strong coffee was the perfect start to a cold Sunday morning here in Ontario, Canada 🍁. Your guests always enlighten and sometimes sadden us but your efforts always impress! Many thanks!
@tabascopronto
@tabascopronto Жыл бұрын
Thanks, very enlightening discussion. Kudos to Oliver for acknowledging what we've been saying for years: journalists based in Moscow bureaus could not understand Ukraine and just saw it through Russian eyes - as a smaller Russia (with a funny language). Same goes for most scholars and 'experts', with very rare exceptions. Hopefully this trend has ended now.
@user-gf7kc5fc5m
@user-gf7kc5fc5m Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jonathan and Oliver, for this terrific conversation about topics which are rarely spoken of in the USA.
@albertlevert2988
@albertlevert2988 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Thank you for bringing it. At minute 31’15 he mentions that western countries have now stopped the flow of Russian money to their financial places, but that UAE and Turkey have replaced them. UAE also seems to play a role as sanctions buster for Iran. Why is the UK and US still protecting the UAE? For its oil?
@Northcountry1926
@Northcountry1926 Жыл бұрын
Thank You very much for your Videos - Respect from across the Pond 🇨🇦
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
👍
@ternerito
@ternerito Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great discussion. follow the money 💰
@joezanella8949
@joezanella8949 Жыл бұрын
As the EU started to crack down this became the real reason for Brexit.
@bron-sconcess.10
@bron-sconcess.10 Жыл бұрын
With much thanks to Jonathan. The whole thing was illuminating, educationally. Oliver Bullough's overarching knowledge and explanation was powerful.
@lynnmcquillan2338
@lynnmcquillan2338 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful interview.. Thankyou! I feel less ignorant & confirmed my natural instincts.. Thankyou both for your great work. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦💛💙✌️
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
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@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
Heroyam Slava! 🇺🇦
Жыл бұрын
Amazing interview! Thanks again for bringing more information about the oligarchs and Russia.
@h.e.hazelhorst9838
@h.e.hazelhorst9838 Жыл бұрын
It’s not only about Russia, if you listen carefully.
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet Жыл бұрын
Isn't greed and prestige wonderful? London, the UK were almost incessantly advertising how much monetary power was central to the city, country and all those off-shore tax havens. If the Russian ultra-wealthy took advantage of the laxity of the laws, government bragging about propaganda, it's not a surprise to anyone. The registries of land titles, beneficial person's, and the ability to use the LEGAL system, the lawyers, accountants, investment advisors all equally gained both prestige and money. I don't live in the UK, or the USA and I kept wondering WHY the British government was so happy to blinker their own views so corrupt people, corruption of the funds was perfectly reasonable. I don't see ANYONE in the British Parliament, House of Lords doing anything, not now, not in the past, nor in the future. Prestige, money, both drive politics in the UK and USA. Certainly it's active in Europe too. Who pays? EVERY citizen of all those countries.
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet Жыл бұрын
So those in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates have moved in to launder and use the money from the world's ultra-wealthy for their power and prestige. Britain taught countries to enable apartheid systems, put pride, money and property above all human and ecological values using amoral means. My ancestors were British, I am still paying for the behaviour of the people of Britain who imposed their own ideas, however immoral or cold.
@heater5979
@heater5979 Жыл бұрын
I might agree with most of what you have said there but what do you mean "Who pays? EVERY citizen of all those countries."? Clearly lot's of money was sloshing around London, if London profited from that then so did the country. The citizens of the country benefited also.
@terryhand
@terryhand Жыл бұрын
I'm sure a historian could trace the behaviour of the City of London to the 19th century, but there were more immediate causes. We have outsourced most of our manufacturing (and polution) to low wage countries and the City (i.e. the financial centre) became a huge source of income, when many industries were failing. By the same token, it was a wonderful thing when university education became available to so many more people, but the government could not possibly afford to fund this from taxes and there was a limit to how much they could charge our own students in tuition fees. Consequently, the universities have put themselves in a position where they can't survive without the income from foreign students. There is a lot of concern in some quarters about the influence the CCP might have in the financing of our universities. Personally, I find the part the City has played in laudering dirty money trully shameful, but I think it is going to be very difficult to extricate ourselves from this. Politicians, unfortunately tend to think in the short term.
@philgee7249
@philgee7249 Жыл бұрын
And there's a Russian oligarch in the house of Lords.
@pynn1000
@pynn1000 Жыл бұрын
@@philgee7249 Alexander, Lord Lebedev's daddy, has "lost" a great deal of wealth. Luxury resorts in Crimea lacking visitors? Gifts to son? Who knows?
@chloemaxwell2628
@chloemaxwell2628 Жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@edmurth
@edmurth Жыл бұрын
Excellent guest!
@christophervaughan2637
@christophervaughan2637 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure how Oliver can argue the UK elite have not been complicit with Russian autocracy when he also argues that the UK is the butler of the world and has been “amoral”. I mean a butler who works for a corrupt overlord is in a position to know exactly what their overlord is doing. If you know people are robbing their nations of wealth and you actually help them rob this wealth how on earth can you argue that is not being complicit. There is absolutely no way the UK elite didn’t know what they were doing. How can you civilise a thief when you help that thief steal? And it’s exactly why Putin has been able to invade Georgia and Crimea. He knew that the UK elite was on his side. The only reason the UK elite have changed their tune is that the Ukrainians decided to fight to the death and so the UK elite are unable to excuse their support of Putin. They were simply afraid of looking too shameful And it’s the same regarding colonialism. Remember in 2012/3 when a freedom of information request suddenly revealed that when the UK decolonised in the Sixties they destroyed or put into secret storage documents which filled warehouses that recorded the atrocities against colonial peoples, precisely because they were afraid of destroying the UK’s reputation as a civilised group of countries. This is entirely deliberate behaviour based on a cultural belief in being a “superior” people, who imagine they civilised the world, and a lust for the comforts of wealth and power. What is even more disturbing is that the people of the UK, a democracy, remember, have also been largely complicit with all this because they also “benefit” from the wealth and power that their countries have “enjoyed” I am so outraged my punctuation has gone to pot
@piseag458
@piseag458 Жыл бұрын
hear,hear ..its the hypocrisy
@davidmiles-hanschell
@davidmiles-hanschell Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@pynn1000
@pynn1000 Жыл бұрын
I understood the comments differently. There was no special relationship with Russian money, the system accepted anyone's money. Much more damning.
@christophervaughan2637
@christophervaughan2637 Жыл бұрын
@@pynn1000 yeah he did make that point. I think he probably just said it wasn’t complicit in that particular moment of the conversation because in reality everything he said seemed to prove complicity. I guess he wanted to emphasise the profit motive and that it wasn’t an ideological decision to support Russian kleptocracy or all other kleptocracies. However, it’s inconceivable those in the UK accepting the money did not know the source of it. They were complicit in the sense of knowing they personally would profit from theft. But you know you don’t have to agree with another’s ideology in order to take their side. They took the side of kleptocracies by helping them to exist, even if they didn’t agree with what they were doing. I bet you those doing the deals would be the first to complain if anyone stole their money or assets
@aurelia5614
@aurelia5614 Жыл бұрын
​@@christophervaughan2637I do agree wholeheartedly with your comment. Thank you.
@Asptuber
@Asptuber Жыл бұрын
Really good conversation, with a nice back-and-forth. Maybe have him back? A whole hour on his observations of Russian attitudes to Ukraine as seen from Moscow (that he touched on just a bit here) would be really interesting.
@mathieu8641
@mathieu8641 Жыл бұрын
Excellent episode! I learnt quite valuable historical facts and perspectives! Many thanx !
@RolfStones
@RolfStones Жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands we have an old political saying: "we shouldn't let the pastor go before the tradesman." Meaning we shouldn't let (our own) morals interfere with trade/profit. Which is a good thing when we talk about minor things. But it is a bad thing when we're talking about trade with inscrupulous and authoritarian oligarchs.
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 Жыл бұрын
That would explain the VOC.
@RolfStones
@RolfStones Жыл бұрын
@@nerdyali4154 indeed, if I remember correctly this is also the reason why the Dutch had the monopoly for trading with Japan for some time!
@RegCostello
@RegCostello Жыл бұрын
I must remember this guy's name. I was absolutely sickened by the lack of an enquiry into Litvinenko's death at the time and I guessed it was because of not wanting to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs.
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday Жыл бұрын
We all knew who had done it even before he actually died. The police could not treat it as a murder until he did die. After that newspapers could not publish 'evidence' that might prejudice a coming trial. But they were clean away.
@KG-1
@KG-1 Жыл бұрын
Very good.
@nicolaebulgaru
@nicolaebulgaru Жыл бұрын
These converations make me more of an anglofile that i already am. As a note the model for postcomunist privatisation was, at least in romania, the Thatcher government model. For romania it was in retrospect quite successful. In russia it was a catastrophe.
@jezalb2710
@jezalb2710 Жыл бұрын
Finally the channel can be watched in higher quality. Thanks.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
Yes, all those with higher quality webcams will be processed in 1080 HD now!
@dougwedel9484
@dougwedel9484 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like if so much Russian wealth is outside of Russia, the idea of returning some of it after the Ukraine war could be used as a bargaining chip for restoring the Russian economy.
@romany8125
@romany8125 Жыл бұрын
That would be a negative. All that russian wealth is already claimed by a number of states looking for reparations.
@realRainz
@realRainz Жыл бұрын
Excellent conversation.
@rockmusicman21
@rockmusicman21 Жыл бұрын
Just learned that you have a Patreon! I don't support many people because I'm a working class individual, however you and Vlad Vexler are now on my list of people to support in the near future. Keep up the amazing work.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
Such a supportive comment- thank you!
@Isgonesomewhere
@Isgonesomewhere Жыл бұрын
I remember talking to my friend about this very topic, thank you and great work Oliver and Jonathan.
@ridethecurve55
@ridethecurve55 Жыл бұрын
Being a willing State party to money laundering is a criminal offence. So, to learn that the City of London has been doing this for, well, ever, is shocking to me. My admiration for the UK has just gone down 10 noches. It is now at 0, and has turned to disdain. This will inevitably come back to bite the UK in ways that the PM and MPs never imagined. Karma has a way of doing these things, and I say, "So be it". One cannot claim the high moral ground at the same time as acting amoral. This is very saddening to find out, and I condemn it in all its forms.
@KeithRiley-sz8qt
@KeithRiley-sz8qt Жыл бұрын
I always thought that Johnson felt a bit guilty hence his support for Ukraine (as well as his wannabe Churchill persona).
@philgee7249
@philgee7249 Жыл бұрын
And I thought it was just me. 👍👍👍
@bobjohnbowles
@bobjohnbowles Жыл бұрын
'... a degree of complacency bordering on complicity.'
@andrewfarrington2193
@andrewfarrington2193 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. The talk threw an enormous amount of light on something of vast long term importance, about which I , perhaps like most people, was only very vaguely aware of. Thanks again.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
I learned a lot too. I’d definitely like to arrange a part II!
@andrewfarrington2193
@andrewfarrington2193 Жыл бұрын
@@SiliconCurtain Please do. I'd certainly listen.
@nattuglaHK
@nattuglaHK Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another enlightening episode! Making sense of big difficult issues
@nikbear
@nikbear Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic and thought provoking interview, I'm hoping that Oliver is invited back in the not to distant future, I could listen to him talk about this fascinating subject all day 👍 As for Boris and his cosplay antics in Ukraine, I don't think he cares a jot what happens to the people of Ukraine, it's all just a backdrop for him, to play out his sudo churchill fantasies, as always, it's got to be about HIM! 😒🤥 As we have seen during the pandemic, "let it rip" was the cry in number 10, his attitude to the average person in the UK has always bordered on the sociopathic, I dare say he feels pretty much the same for the average Ukrainian!
@jezalb2710
@jezalb2710 Жыл бұрын
Grad - it means/meant a town/city in Russian. The word: gorod is the modern one. A Slavic word.
@monikahammaren8509
@monikahammaren8509 Жыл бұрын
Grad, gorod has the same old indoeuropean origin as eng guard, german Garten, swedish/norwegian gård meaning place with fence around or town with wall.
@tombouie
@tombouie Жыл бұрын
Enlightening
@jackbolder5734
@jackbolder5734 Жыл бұрын
Incredible, thanks for the insight.
@margareturquhart5641
@margareturquhart5641 Жыл бұрын
Every British person should hear this discussion.
@shaun906
@shaun906 Жыл бұрын
dont worry, the bulk of the country a very aware of Russian money in our cities and politics, i'm including Chinese property investors too. ironically the majority of benefits have gone to the conservative party (communism/ socialism/ capitalism), although there were accusations put to new labour, specifically Peter Mandelson. The previous labour leader and his chancellor were anti NATO, anti interventionists and pro peace no matter the victim.
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday Жыл бұрын
​@@shaun906 Mandelson? I had hoped he had gone back into the woodwork.
@geoffhaylock6848
@geoffhaylock6848 Жыл бұрын
Evert Rubel spent on expensive western houses, expensive cars and even more expensive super yachts, is less money spent on T72's, S300/S400 systems, artillery, guns, bombs and bullets. It's a shame other European countries gave so much money to ruSSia in the first place.
@davidmiles-hanschell
@davidmiles-hanschell Жыл бұрын
Are there any, in the corridors of Whitehall and the City of London who have known all along, and will listen to what Oliver Bullough has spelled out in such lucid and truthful language here, and recent books, who have sufficient moral integrity and courage to begin to dismantle the legal and financial system that is responsible for Ukraine today sending its best to defend and unnecessarily for their country?
@djblairsmith6
@djblairsmith6 Жыл бұрын
Dear Mr Fink You have a great talent of curating fascinating and informed guest speakers. In this case the theme of "Follow The Money" All roads lead to The City of London Corporation A City State independent within London.and the UK and all her Parliamentary Laws. A rogue entity that goes all the way back to William the Conqueror.. Talking of rogue enclaves The Russian Exclave of Kaliningrad would be a fascinating topic for discussion on your great channel. Nobody ever talks about this obvious Trojan Horse. What is it, what is its history and why is it so deep behind current NATO frontlines? I would love to be informed by yet another brilliant guest of yours. Be well and Slava Ukraine.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
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@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
That’s victory… not a swear word!
@20chocsaday
@20chocsaday Жыл бұрын
I remember my father, when he was alive, mentioning how trade with the USSR was done by Barter. I am not sure why he said that, possibly he had heard on the grapevine that the company was trying to sell them spray painting equipment. It was amusing. Someone later said that the Rouble was worth 1p. In other words 240R = £1.
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, if often depressing, but ultimately hopeful? I had no idea about the centrality of London's role in rehabilitating Soviet, then Russian, funds. If the same old faces were involved, then perhaps it shouldn't be a surprise that former apparatchiks and KGB men would choose to "go with what you know" in their new roles as oligarchs & fixers in the 1990s. Olivers' point about making London less of a one-stop shop for the corrupt is a great idea, but one can imagine the resistance any changes will face: not only will parts of the financial sector object, but so will estate agents, private education, luxury goods brands, antiques dealers, etc. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@mistasomen
@mistasomen Жыл бұрын
This series is highly underappreciated. 3rd video I watched and I subbed.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
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@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Жыл бұрын
Oliver’s book _Moneyland_ is a must read for anyone who wants to understand why the middle classes are getting poorer and poorer, how kleptocracy undermines democracy and institutions not just where the money is being stolen from but all countries and learning how kleptocracy and tax evasion (legal and illegal) works. Its subject is not the war in 🇺🇦 , but the subject matter is highly relevant).
@terryhand
@terryhand Жыл бұрын
Once again an issue that really needed to be addressed.
@toi_techno
@toi_techno Жыл бұрын
The Uk is at 72nd in the world for inequality Ruzzia is 81st (for comparison Ireland is 29th)
@stevenovetsky3274
@stevenovetsky3274 Жыл бұрын
Edifying!
@randallsmith5631
@randallsmith5631 Жыл бұрын
London-Grad. Russia's oligarchs.
@annjuurinen6553
@annjuurinen6553 29 күн бұрын
Russia's Kleptocrats.
@j.obrien4990
@j.obrien4990 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that Hugh Grant doubled as a reporter.
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
😂
@PlanetFrosty
@PlanetFrosty Жыл бұрын
Private property rights are the basis of FREEDOM and essential to the US Constitution. This along with Self Sovereign Individual is almost an anarchist ideology. However, these immutable rights were established in law, the US Constitution. Where ignored the US freedom has been weakened. These personal rights were established as Natural Rights immutable “God given” to human kind. The political ideology and understanding evolved from previous European and British political philosophers. The roots of the understanding self sovereignty go all the way back to The Reformation in part. The Royal capture of the religious and human rights foundation of reformation resulted in a “half” renewal of personal freedom. Since the KGB controlled the Russian Orthodox Church, the moral component and personal responsibility of freedom were under developed. Russian Oligarchs I would suggest that the incomplete Reformation in England set the stage for moral weakness in the British Empire. This weakness created was incomplete understanding of human natural rights. With incompleteness created a corrupted legal system. This fostered oligarchy and the “royalty” of “new money” Russian or otherwise. I would posit it’s not underfunding of Law Enforcement. It is the problem of the understanding of Natural and God given rights of all mankind. This moral component which has been weakened in the US over the recent decades is critical. Setting people truly free from class and limits of achievement was only partially imposed in much of the West. We have to address these partial limits. It creates wealth disparity on a wider scale. This “new money” class thus thrives in much of Europe and especially in London.
@alisonc297
@alisonc297 Жыл бұрын
Well researched and well said! We certainly need to look at our part in this....and demand changes via out politicians whose hands are not tainted by corruption. Look at the dangers of a unregulated capitalist agenda still being pursued for the sake of money.
@romany8125
@romany8125 Жыл бұрын
Would you be kind enough to provide evidence of presence of this "capitalist agenda". All I see is the oligarchs from failing socialist state vulturing their own country with the aid of the corrupt politicians.
@arikahn3907
@arikahn3907 Жыл бұрын
Disagree with “a problem that we caused.” We might have provided services to oligarchs but we did NOT cause the problem, we did not create Putin or the Oligarchs! We should not create a convoluted argument to take responsibility for others failures. Self-reflection is fine, but be careful not to even create the appearance of taking the blame away from the criminal.
@christophervaughan2637
@christophervaughan2637 Жыл бұрын
I am not so sure you are right. The Russian people feel threatened by the West and it’s a fact that the West has knowingly taken huge amounts of wealth stolen from the Russian, and many other, peoples. Sure I agree with you that we are certainly not the sole cause, perhaps not even the primary cause, but we are definitely part of the cause. You are saying the Russian oligarchs are criminals and you are right but if our institutions knowingly take this stolen money from these criminals to enrich our Western economies and we know this is money that should have enriched the Russian people, who are a lot poorer than us, we are very much part of the cause of the problem. We have done something the Russian people can very definitely blame us for. This doesn’t absolve them of their crimes, such as invading other countries, but we aren’t innocent either.
@arikahn3907
@arikahn3907 Жыл бұрын
@@christophervaughan2637 had Russia not gone over the top in the last few years, the West refusing to do business with their “elite” would have been called xenophobic. In hindsight we could have done better, but who could have foreseen this. Sure, let’s reflect on what we can do better, but let’s be very careful about too much self-criticism as it not only reduces the culpability of the criminal but it also feeds Russia’s propaganda machine.
@christophervaughan2637
@christophervaughan2637 Жыл бұрын
@@arikahn3907 this was very foreseeable and the way that Putin and Russia has been allowed to act is utterly shameful. But if you launder the money for the thief how are you going to put him behind bars? They allowed Chechnya, Georgia and Crimea, it is only because Ukraine has put up a fight that suddenly the UK has to side with Ukraine instead of Russia because it really would damage their international reputation to continue financially helping a government as genocidal as Putin’s
@arikahn3907
@arikahn3907 Жыл бұрын
@@christophervaughan2637 I 100% agree with these points. We should have stood up earlier and only when we saw Ukraine winning did our politicians have the guts to take a stand - this is totally the case. My earlier point is just about letting them off the hook and taking undue blame, but you are right and we have to stand up for what is right including not enabling money laundering and of course not closing our eyes to such invasions.
@dougwedel9484
@dougwedel9484 Жыл бұрын
It's ironic that crooks depend on honest institutions which focus on just policy. When I ride my bicycle, I notice drivers who pass close to me are depending on me being predictable, that I will not suddenly steer into their path, even the slightest. What I do to prevent them from doing this is, when they are still a safe distance away, I will do a sudden wiggle, as if I suddenly notice broken glass and quickly steer around it. Then I keep going straight and reliable as they pass me. EVERY time someone passes close to me, I note that I forgot to do that wiggle. And every time I DO the wiggle, they give more space when they pass and often change lanes instead of just giving me a metre space or so. I don't know how that could be applied to Russia's corruption, but thought it may relate somehow.
@mrnobody3161
@mrnobody3161 Жыл бұрын
Corruption of empathy and self awareness perhaps.
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't mention what is probably the main reason that Russian privatisation went awry, which is that the people in a position to take advantage were predominantly Party officials, KGB officers and gangsters. They were in a position to corrupt the rule of law right from the start. I don't see that you can blame Britain for creating lawlessness in Russia since in principle there is nothing stopping the elite of any other nation from moving their money offshore. It obviously enables the problem and exacerbates corruption in vulnerable countries though.
@dominicrooney5638
@dominicrooney5638 Жыл бұрын
The metaphor of the doctor rescuing the patient they have run over in the first place is brilliant, no wonder the UK is described as 'Perfidious Albion' in some quarters and no wonder the global south countries wryly shrug at UKs insistence on censuring and sanctioning Russia at this point!
@18_rabbit
@18_rabbit Жыл бұрын
pathetic jab/try at trying to demolish not just facts/truth but the epistemology of truth, like mutha' Russia has tried to do?!
@typxxilps
@typxxilps Жыл бұрын
here the russians got no citizenship at all but in the UK which had allowed them to travel like EU citizens till they realized that BREXIT would hurt them cause now they are russians again at any border here, especially at the airport where they first had tried to get into the Schengen queques
@davidmiles-hanschell
@davidmiles-hanschell Жыл бұрын
Well done Jonathan to have invited Oliver Bullough.
@yrmanja
@yrmanja Жыл бұрын
I wonder if on the Pyramid of Corruption stand people that are involved in different kinds of trafficking (drugs, humans, weapons...)? Perhaps it is possible to control dirty money channels, but controling them means dealing with the money of criminals. It is a very difficult job and most people want to stay away from it. At least on the personal level everyone should be responsible for own do's.
@h.e.hazelhorst9838
@h.e.hazelhorst9838 Жыл бұрын
@39 mins: Don’t forget that the western half of Ukraine has been a part of Austro-Hungary until 1918. I’ve never been there, but I guess there’s a big difference between Lviv and Kharkiv.
@michaelmazowiecki9195
@michaelmazowiecki9195 Жыл бұрын
Only for the previous 123 years. Ukraine was an integral part of the kingdom of Poland from 1569 to the late 18th century and before that a part of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania from the end of Mongol rule in the early 14th century.
@PlanetFrosty
@PlanetFrosty Жыл бұрын
Very good presentation. I would posit it is the restriction of self sovereign individual which limits wealth being spread far and wide for a broader society outlook on freedom and responsibility.
@dougwedel9484
@dougwedel9484 Жыл бұрын
The 2014 annexation of Crimea is an interesting point. What I saw was countless times Ukraine provoked Russia and specifically Mr. Putin into invading Ukraine. If they didn't then getting Crimea back would have been massively more difficult. But the invasion of Ukraine in 22 gave Ukraine moral permission to take back not just the Donbas but Crimea as well.
@romany8125
@romany8125 Жыл бұрын
Provoked? Russian-chinese troll spotted.
@Laguna2013
@Laguna2013 Жыл бұрын
Who knew Hugh Grant had this sideline writing talent
@SiliconCurtain
@SiliconCurtain Жыл бұрын
😂
@joezanella8949
@joezanella8949 Жыл бұрын
Greed rules.
@DavyJonesSimRacing
@DavyJonesSimRacing Жыл бұрын
Well done Jonathan for also addressing the corruption that had also taken over the UK
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