OLLANTAYAMBO (A stone masons commentary) Mike Haduck, road to Machu Picchu

[@RostislavLapshin]

Several methods of fabrication of the polygonal masonry using clay/gypsum replicas, a topography translator, and reduced clay models of the stone blocks along with a 3D-pantograph are described in the article “Fabrication methods of the polygonal masonry of large tightly-fitted stone blocks with curved surface interfaces in megalithic structures of Peru”. KZbin does not allow a direct link. Search by the article title.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi, it's only stone, any quarry guy or Carver could replicate it, not a big deal, thanks Mike

[@daeryram]

утомил уже со своим спамом

[@RostislavLapshin]

The 10th article edition (DOI: 10.20944/preprints202108.0087.v10) is posted. Search the article by DOI or by title.

[@MikeHaduck]

I know your wasting my time, but you got to send me a link, because I can't find what you want me to see, thanks mike

[@jzeerod]

i see. discussion is fine but show me and remove the woooooo once and for all. because i see these things and all i can think of is WOOOOOO. replicate these structures please, without steel or the wheel. also, what of the russian study that found 2% more silicates in the finished polygonal stones when compared to the quarry stones? could this possibly be geopolymer, that is a concrete accretion of granite which recrystalizes into solid granite. the slump would take care of the fifteen sided cuts and impossible curvatures, the slump could also have been sloughed off when dressing the stones to eliminate any evidence of it every being doughlike. who knows perhaps they ran electricity through it to recrystalize the granite. the 2% extra sylicate the finished stones contain must be explained. there is a paper out there peer reviewed i think. if you look you will find it.

[@matt910077]

Speaking as a GC that survived a liberal arts degree in art history with a focus on gothic cathedrals, this work you are doing, is perhaps the most important you have undertaken for instructing over educated hacks that think books know more than callouses.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Matt, I appreciate hearing that from a pro, Thanks, mike

[@kenneththomas2032]

Especially the lesson on space and time. We could live forever if not for the darn Sun and Moon

[@jakesaari7652]

Hey Mike - great video. Thanks for the granite demonstration. I think these videos are very well made, and your narrative is on point.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Jake I appreciate that, Mike

[@kylertencha9122]

"Don't cha know you need aliens to help ya?" That cracked me right up lol

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Kyler, mike

[@HighlanderNorth1]

☑️ Darn right! It's silly to think that aliens helped build these walls! Unless they brought special stone-cutting lasers with them....... Well, there you go, I've convinced myself that it WAS aliens who formed these stones! 😁

[@cv507]

@@HighlanderNorth1 lasers cut aluminümm´´ -.- and steel. they mite wörk on stone... maybe pläzmeh xD well shört we cant buiLD möst wöndairce tvdäe v v let alöän align them xD

[@campsitez2355]

Conspiracy theories completely disproven with a little free masonry !

[@UnbeltedSundew]

If they didn't have hard metals like bronze or iron then how do you suppose they made the saws? To me the mark look like it came from a string saw sort of thing (8:50 the marks at the bottom looks like it broke or they ran into trouble and they pulled it through), is that feasible? Maybe copper impregnated with crushed granite?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi unbelted

[@MikeHaduck]

I have seen a demonstration with those string saws or wire saws on a old video but can’t remember where, thanks, mike

[@rb8049]

Copper and sand and water

[@68Mie]

They didnt have the wheel, but did they have round pillars? Stones have saw marks and bore holes, what do you think they used as tools? Whats missing is a latheing tool, like in the middle eastern, all 3 is present.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Mie, I have a video called carving stone with ancient technology, Mike haduck ,and in my kafare,,Egypt I show how they moved them making their own wheel, thanks Mike

[@fixbertha]

So it took about 1/2 hour to move about 1/2 cup of stone. How long would it take to shape so perfectly the stones starting at 1:10 in the video? And how did the "stone movers" move those stones weighing tons from the quarry (which is across the valley up a mountain, so it's a down and back up trip of hundreds of feet)? And if the knobs and protrusions were used to move the stones why are they so random, and so many stones don't have them at all? I have no doubt that it's possible to shape stones by hand, but look at the vast number, the extreme sizes, and the precision of the fits. Note also that there are different styles of stonework that each exhibit extreme size and precision fit. The size of the site of Ollantaytambo is immense. You have to go there and to other megalithic sites to appreciate their scale. The videos just don't do it justice.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi fixbertha, I guess you would have to work with stone like anything else to understand it, there’s lots of sites on KZbin of guys moving huge heavy stones, and I remember guys who worked for the wpa that did some amazing things, you have to be in the business to understand it, There’s lots of bedroom archeologists out there that believe what all the other bedroom archeologists is telling them, with respect, Thanks mike

[@fixbertha]

@@MikeHaduck I have been involved in many heavy moves in my career in engineering. Moving a 200 ton anything a couple hundred feet down a mountain, then across an unimproved valley, and then back up a couple hundred feet would be a task taking months with modern equipment (assuming you could get equipment like that to the site). Intermediate stages would have to be constructed on both the descent and the ascent to site the equipment. Multiple heavy lift cranes would be involved. And note the location of those largest stones. They had to have been moved before the rest of the existing construction existed. Look at the resources available to the people anthropologists tell us were there. And there are stones like that all over the world, many even bigger. As for shaping stone, look up Kailash temple. That one-piece solid basalt temple should interest you.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi fixbertha, they quarried it and moved it, I don’t know what you want me to prove to you?

[@MikeHaduck]

www.designboom.com/architecture/mit-matter-design-walking-assembly-brandon-clifford-ted-04-17-2019/

[@fixbertha]

@@MikeHaduck Nothing, and I have no answers. But the notion that people with stone pounders could accomplish the fine fitting of rectangular and/or polygonal blocks found all over the world is dubious at best. I don't think we know, and at this point I don't think we will ever know how it was done. And it's obvious that enormous stones were moved, shaped and placed with human-hair tolerance, but we can't duplicate those feats today. It's all a mystery.

[@kenneththomas2032]

Have you been to Baalbek? Would love to see you go to the site and talk about it , also the black granite boxes of the serrapium in Egypt. Check spelling

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Kenneth, I got stuff still coming, mike

[@veronicianyveronica5290]

How do you lift all the big stones into place? Facing stones is easy. They used crane to lift four thousand years ago?

[@MikeHaduck]

No big deal , thanks mike

[@pawoodsman1737]

Took half hour to remove a piece the size of my thumb. So how many people and how long to cut and shape one of those megalithic size stones with that method?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi pa, send the money for the workers and we will find out, thanks, mike

[@RickMannoia-o1b]

Love the way you do your video. I like the beating rock on rock.It worked. In Machu Picchu they started building terraces on the bottom of the mountain so it wouldn't slide down, and then cut there way back to reach the top. The terraces prevented the slopes from eroding. THEN they built the city. I've been there and many pl;aces. Hard work, brilliant engineering NOT Martins. Thank you.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks user, Mike

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

The ending commentary was epic. Thanks Mike. Love your stuff. Keep it up.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Wayward, mike

[@nitramretep]

Your commentary is really intresting and, with your professional credentials , well informed. I like your plain spoken technical comments, they make a lot more sense than the numerous archeological narrations of these sites.Good video, thanks.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Peter, mike

[@Nanology101]

I've watched a lot of Graham Hancock and other people that bring alternative hypothesis to the table, some of it is interesting. There is one thing I find that doesn't make sense (to me), is the huge black granite tomb inside one of the pyramids. I'm guessing it was cut from one piece and hollowed out at a very high quality, but then you look at the inscription markings on it and they're very sloppy, basic lines carved or drawn on it aren't even close to being straight, which suggests these were done by different people at different times?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Nanology, could very well be, I been there, thanks, Mike

[@graemepeters5717]

So how do you move stone blocks that weigh 800 - 1000 tons? how do you stand a 1000 ton stone columb on end?

[@MikeHaduck]

Graeme, I am not a mover but there are lots of things on the Internet how the ancients did it, thanks, mike

[@stephenphillips4984]

@@MikeHaduck But none of them are realistic methods of transportation for mountainous localities like Ollantayambo. You suggest the infamous knobs om stone blocks were to assist their transport. But many don't have them, and those that do have single or pairs of knobs that are so shallow that any rope wound around them would easily slide off. Your suggestion is ridiculous. Your attempt to trivialize the mystery of sites like Ollantayambo is unconvincing.

[@MikeHaduck]

@stephenphillips4984 hi Stephen, even in todays stonework they remove the knobs after the stone is placed and many times the stones are not fully carved until after the stone is in place, you can see it in st John's cathedral in NYC, I have 2 videos "carving stones with ancient technology " part 1 & 2, talks all about carving and moving, thanks Mike

[@jockyi]

​@@stephenphillips4984 look into how the old timers got the big trees out of the mountains in the US. Don't underestimate determination.

[@spanko208]

Absolutely love this Mike!!! I always said, "what else did they have to do all day?" They had nothing but time to make things perfect and they believed in whatever they were doing and wanted to make it perfect. Obviously whomever did most of this work around the world truly had their heart and soul in to it, it shows from their craftsmanship. I think I was married to an alien once...

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Steven, I appreciate it, mike

[@15past2]

@@MikeHaduck Before you two go around patting yourselves on the back for your half baked and incomprehensive ideas read my comment made 1 hr ago! Or are you so into yourselves that you know it all????

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi @@15past2 take a trip to the coral castle in Florida, when I was there they are telling me about anto gravety, and all this crazy stuff and then a few years back they find the film of him actually moving these 16 ton stones himself, it’s not a big deal to see the simplicity when you actually work in the trades, with respect, mike

[@15past2]

@@MikeHaduck Mike the coral castle stones are microscopic compared to these stones in Baalbek and are not that accurately placed. I am not a scientist because I can't work out how to move a 16 ton stone. That is easily accomplished. Try something 100 times larger. The material you can use on a 16 ton stone does not come close to work on a 1600 ton stone. Again why pile a 1750 ton stone on top of another similar one in a quarry where it is expected to be moved shortly and how? At some point, you need to say that there is something here unexplained.

[@MikeHaduck]

There is lots of stuff on the Internet of old ways of moving stone, I would ask them, no need for me to prove it, thanks, mike

[@cgindustrial1859]

Mike can you give an opinion...What to use to resurface 150' 2-step restaurant entrance. 1 1/2" thick

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi CG, I did some videos called concrete step repair, where I used different techniques in different places, unless you redo the steps completely it will always be a patch, and patches are usually a yearly fix no matter what you use, I hope it helps thanks, mike

[@cgindustrial1859]

@@MikeHaduck Hey Mike, I didn't expect a reply but I am eternally grateful!...I will search for that video...Thank Buddy! You are the greatest!

[@cgindustrial1859]

@@MikeHaduck I'm in Canadian North so I know the deal with concrete and the weather, thanks again sir, long time sub, first time comment!

[@lancehobbs8012]

Can you please show us how to horizontally separate and split the granite from bedrock ? That seems harder than splitting it vertically with drilling, or is it? Even with iron tools , from there I want to set my mind on how to achieve it without iron tools. Also what are your thoughts on those scallop (as they get referred to) workongs on the great unfinished obelisk of Aswan?Thanks Mike love your work

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Lance, when I was at the obelisk, they had a sample of dolrite there that crushes granite, lots of time and manpower , but they had the wheel I can't see why then didn't fashion a primitive saw, just look at the siege machines the ancients put together, the more things change the more they stay the same. Thanks Mike

[@lancehobbs8012]

@@MikeHaduck Hi Mike my dad the geologist suggested exactly that straight off the bat as a means for shaping the already quarried granite blocks( dolorite hammers as you suggest), but again we are now talking about how to split granite blocks (quarry) them from the bedrock in the first place. Are you suggesting a saw fabricated of dolorite? I happen to be a construction estimator so I can do some feasibility on it, please let me know this is a hot topic

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Lance, one of these months or maybe years I plan to visit the granite quarries up in Vermont, although I worked with a lot of granite and it is mostly predictable, I would like to check out some things for myself, thanks mike

[@lancehobbs8012]

@@MikeHaduck awesome cant wait, thanks Mike, and have a happy new year! You should sell Tshirts with " it's no big deal" love your attitude!😀

[@dylnthmsn420]

How do you drag 100 tons of granite up a 6 slope?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Dylan, everybody wants me to show them how but nobody wants to send me start up money for that project, thanks, mike

[@stevenmetz8642]

@@MikeHaduck Such a professional rock banger as yourself should have no trouble demonstrating how mildly educated indigenous people were capable of modifying and moving megalithic stone without "start up money" . Nobody wants you to show them how to perform the physically impossible, they just want you to make a video of the attempt. How much do you need for that? Gimme a number.

[@yewsuck5537]

This has been proven so many times how easy it is. Have you even looked? The info is out there.

[@neoclassic09]

So why do a lot of the stones in these walls have melted/vitrified outer surfaces?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi neo,,, I didnt see any evidence of that, we used thermo facing today all the time. Thanks, mike

[@neoclassic09]

@@MikeHaduck Check the vids Matt at Ancient Architects did a month ago about Sacsayhuaman and Tiwanaku/Puma Punku. He looks at it in detail, particularly the softening of the stone. Also, you point out saw marks in some places like Ollantaytambo. Do you know what type of saw that would be? They had some, but did they have something that could make such a thin cut through all that granite?

[@roccobierman4985]

This is an excellent video. Always love your videos Mike. Cheers bud.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Rocco, cheers also, mike

[@rudysdream]

The extraordinary mystery at the Serapeum at Saqqara with those granite boxes. Mike would you imagine it would be possible to make one of those from one piece? As, it has been said that we can not. As you may know there are 2 dozen of them & made out of one piece weighing nearly 100 tons w smooth inside cornering! I hope to find a answer. Cheers! Your videos are great.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Rudy, I haven’t seen anything that can’t be done with stone if you got the man power and time, mike

[@harrowgateguy]

So the protrusions on one side of some of the stones but not all including some of the largest and heaviest were for lifting the stones and they were not removed for some unknown reason?

[@MikeHaduck]

I know from working in quarries and on the job we would leave notches for moving, some walls they left them there , nobody cared, and if they want to move them again they could, thanks mike

[@wcsd9577]

Thank you Mike, it's great to get a hands-on perspective from someone like you who has spent decades doing masonry with a wide variety of techniques and tools, both old-world as well as modern. I believe there is a great unknown gap in the way which we understand historical technology that is evident in sites around the globe such as Giza, Baalbek, Karnak, Puma Punku and others, by how such massive stones were quarried, others cut with such precision, and transported and arranged in a manner which is seemingly logistically impossible, at least with the technology available that we believe was used at the time that we believe these sites were built.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks WCSD, I appreciate it, mike

[@georgemckenzie2525]

I would be interested in your ideas on why there are aquaducts (roman?) In pre-columbian Mexico

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi George, I don’t know much about that but necessity is the mother of invention, thanks mike

[@tonybrook4519]

"Boss I've cracked one of the big ones! (spends the rest of his natural life making shims)

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Thon, mike

[@vincent3658]

"Water and sand, water and sand..." A hundred years later, "Grandpa got a good start, why are we doing this, again!?"

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Vincent, I dont know?, mike

[@ronwells5720]

Thank you for such a down to Earth logical expression of your understanding such simple basics .....your video coupled with two other KZbin videos on massive stone movements being achieved with blocks of wood and smaller peble shaped stones and rock plitting techniques using a few strategically placed chisels certainly is food for thought in any ones brain .....but their will always be people who chase The Fairies ...look for the complicated and exotic...but a blind to the simple path Thanks for spending your time in sharing this knowledge .

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Ron, I appreciate it, Mike

[@ct9737]

Mike,I have a cobblestone porch with concrete sills,the concrete sills are almost 100 years old and have become permeable and I believe letting water seep in,hom do I fix this issue ,thanks,love your channel !

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Craig, maybe form new ones and relay them , or patch them up, eveyonewill say different, thanks, mike

[@ramseydieter]

Ive learned so much from your videos. Im a mason as well. Ive visited most of the ancient sites in Peru. Although I agree that stone can be shaped with other stone I think theres a huge piece of this puzzle (no pun intended) that isnt adressed; SCRIBING. In order to fit irregular/organic megaliths together would require constant and continual moving of the stones back and forth, slowly chiseling a bit away then fitting, a bit more, then fitting, etc. Without the use of a computer system or sheer mathematical clairvoyance the amount of times these megaliths would have to be moved back and forth simply in the shaping process alone would make the question of 'how did they even get these stones to this site?' seem like a trite consideration in contrast. Sites like Sasquwaman really exemplify the seeming impossibility of 'sympathizing' these mamoth stones together, by hand, and so exquisitely at that. Love watching all of your videos...look forward to seeing more!

[@MikeHaduck]

thanks Ramsey,, mike

[@leighsayers2628]

So how do they cut the back of the stone from the quarries

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi leigh,, go underneight,, remember that stone is usually softer when first quarried, and hardens if it sits in the weather over time, thanks Mike

[@edwatson1991]

Playing around with stone on my property, I have realized some of what you have said. Any thoughts on how they would move them?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Ed, lots of examples on youtube, I will address it on my next video on peru. thanks mike

[@itslooke74]

Does this work on thermolite blocks? My boss says my cuts are dreadfull :(

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi looke, good question I never tried, lol mike

[@steves2074]

i am so glad i watched until the end. Made my day. Where can i sign up for the class action suit?

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Steve, lol, Mike

[@timurnurgaliyev4533]

Could they somehow acquire molten rock, pour it flat on the ground and then reassemble on a wall?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Timur, they had no cement till the Spanish came, no this is just old school stone work. Thanks Mike

[@eastudio-K]

wondering is a steady surface not optimal?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi, I don't know what you mean, thanks Mike

[@eastudio-K]

@@MikeHaduck was wondering the table you are using, thank you for all your videos!

[@davidwootton683]

Hi Mike, Thanks again for a very interesting video. I cut and polish gemstones. One thing I noticed when polishing Amethyst. That it polished faster if you have micro particles of Amethyst imbedded in the tin disc. In other words like polishes like. If you take a woven mat and saturate it with rock flour, it will cut, polish, and round the edges. The same applies to animal skins. The Chinese used soft copper/bronze wire to cut through rock. The wire was pulled back and forth with rock flour, and water. It would be very interesting to try this out. Jade carving is very old and lots of the technics that would work with larger stones. Kind regards and greetings from Africa.

[@15past2]

Utter nonsense!!!! You need the polishing agents of today to have a smooth surface. They had no known or noted method of segregating or screening the polishing agents. How would you get the perfectly square edges? The Chinese carved a very soft stone called Jade not granite which is considerably harder and would not be even slightly scratched by copper. How would you get the perfectly straight edges on the underneath of the rock in some cases the size of a large building Read my comment made an hour ago.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks David, I heard that about the wire before,as a gem cutter you know about rocks better than me, I appreciate hearing that from a professional, thanks you, mike

[@davidwootton683]

You have a reply!

[@davidwootton683]

Thanks Mike, and I have replied to 12past2.

[@15past2]

@@MikeHaduck The reason I watch your channel is because i am building a house; my fifth. This one is a cordwood house. I have mixed three skids of Portland(with sand and lime) so far or about 350 machine mixes on this one house. I have tested different amounts of lime and sawdust and straight cement and sand in different areas and have come to a conclusion to what is best for my area. I have built 100's of feet of stone retaining walls with my father before he passed away 18 years ago and learned the old world methods of using stone. He took me to Belgium and the other places before he passed away and showed me his work, his roads, his walls etc... and explained in detail everything about building with stone. It isn't just piling up a bunch of rocks and calling it a retaining wall or building. There is much tech to laying and positioning and shaping stones. I watch your channel for hints or things that i may have missed or anything interesting. What I am trying to say here is I am not an Ivory tower scientists. I am long ago retired and much older than you. I have a backhoe and bobcat and sawmill to help. Everything is done by hand!

[@robertcross2846]

can you do an internal angle with your rock?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Robert , I don’t see why not, thanks mike

[@kennawiech2345]

Awesome Mike. Thanks for sharing your adventures of travel with us. I'm still learning from You, your a great teacher ! Kenna from Canada

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Kenna, Mike

[@penzman]

Is it possible that by mechanical means, they were sometimes able to rock a neolithic or smaller block back and forth over another even if it was only a half centimeter each time, either to make flat surfaces for the outside or to make two blocks match perfectly? You may bend time, but you won't bend rock. :)

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi I got a video called" carving stones with ancient technology " and a whole playlist on, " rockfacing and shaping stone" not as big a deal as they make it out to be, thanks mike

[@alex-650]

If you have seen the saw marks, then you must presume they had a saw. If they had a saw, why wouldn't they also have a grinder to shave down bumps? There would be no need for pounding rocks together.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Alex, when I see saw marks ,,, I get suspicious on when, but I know the ancients had rope and wire saws, thanks mike

[@niefel]

I have high hopes from this video, but as always, your "result" is not even close to 1:17. Considering the 1:17 wall is already eroded for centuries(at least, could be for millenia). Imagine how it looked like brand new? You don't even show the finished result? what happened? About wall at 2:00: Cut them, move them, place them.. How? Have you ever in your life, cut, move and place stone with that size up to the mountain? I was a skeptic just like you, I'm not convinced by "lost ancient civilization" hypothesis overnight. About aliens made this, no I also don't believe it. What I believe is another civilization older than inca made it. A little bit out of topic: The oldest modern human fossil dated about 300 thousand years ago, some stone tools are even older than that. Only took about 10 thousand years for human to rebuild civilization from stone age to right now. So how about another 290 thousand years? Thanks.

[@jimc4731]

Your way might be true, but it is not humorous. JIM

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Tape, it just stone that are shaped and moved, no big deal in my view, I appreciate the comment, thanks, mike

[@anthonyw9129]

He says its no big deal..him being a mason id love to see him replicate these fittings using only stone tools .. not even to scale just a few to prove his point... Will never happen

[@niefel]

@@anthonyw9129 He said he has about 20 videos not yet uploaded, I bet in all those videos he can NEVER actually replicate the megalithic wall. Maybe he just smack tiny rocks with poor precision and rough surface in all those 20 videos and comment not a big deal everytime.

[@anthonyw9129]

@@niefel he's a simple man and to him his theory makes perfect sense...he doesn't know anything about the mathematics involved...as he stated he just puts them in place... Its like a logger trying to explain the finer points of architectural woodworking

[@drumcircler]

Very informative, with humor. You explained well how the stones could be relentlessly worked. More mysterious to me are the methods of the other contractors, the quarrymen and the movers. They excavated and delivered heavy ass loads of gargantuan jigsaw puzzle pieces up and around very steep slopes. The man-hours are terrifying.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Uncle Bob, I agree, thanks, Mike

[@lundsweden]

I guess the Eygptians (and others) had hundreds of thousands of slaves whose only purpose in life was building fancy tombstones for the @sshole Pharoh of the time!

[@cromBumny]

Why arn5 there chizzle marks on any if the stones?

[@MikeHaduck]

I did a video called " carving stones with ancient technology " Mike hadick, check it out, Mike

[@judyparker8459]

I was right there, 10 years ago. The Sacred Valley is appropriately named, so beautiful and enclosing, you feel safe and at peace. I'd go back in a second. These videos bring up the memories, the whole lovely adventure. It's a pleasure seeing it all over again. I'm glad you got to see it too, Mike. As for physics/theology stuff: give it time, give it space, in the end it doesn't matter. :) Just enjoy.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Judy, I appreciate that, Mike

[@lazarevic95]

Nice video mike, I really enjoyed your talk at the end.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Knucklehead, I appreciate it, mike

[@jcfractal]

Regarding the shims, why would they put them between all the stones, when only 1 of them had the crack. And also how do we know that crack didn't happen after it was built, since those rocks could be 1000's of years old. Another issue is that the knobs on the stones, are seen in some really small stones, in the temple of the Sun for example, in stones that don't weigh very much. Also these knobs are found in Egypt and many other places, suggesting a world wide civilization that historians don't recognize as a thing. I personally think its a style, a way to show their skill at molding stone, since it implies that the whole surface had to be shaven off. And in Sacsayhuaman I think that's still a mystery, how would such large stones be put into place, molded and vitrified!? And then of course is all the vitrified stone work found all over Peru and the strange scooped rock formations that seem to suggest the stone was soften some how like play doh. You certainly showed that stone can be pounded into shape, and indeed some of the polygonal walls in Peru show clear signs of having been pounded into shape; yet other examples don't show these signs. There are just so many questions. Thank you for this video, great work!

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks jc, I think they over blow everything, a style for sure, but it is not as impressive as they want everyone to believe, I appreciate it, Mike

[@peterrathbone179]

I like watching your videos, this one was the most entertaining yet for me.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks peter, Mike

[@tomthumb1671]

Hi mike , "I love the hate crime against humanity" , to be honest when you see Egypt and see the tools in the museum , the old skills lost is a shame as they knew how to harden copper pitching tools and chisels for working limestone which when quarried is like soap stone , but carbonates and becomes harder with the environment , some stone looks cast insitu in a composition , but granite cut obelisks cut instu in ground ,then prized out ready to be delivered to site is a total mystery as we don't have a crane that could lift one?." >>> we need a time machine to combat hate crime against humanity to no for sure how it was made.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Tom, mike

[@tomasmucha2133]

Sir, been to Machu Picchu first time in 1973 and again in 2006. Incas did practice " engineering" . Mr Kenneth Wright wrote a great book title...Machu Picchu: A Civil Engineering Marvel. The hydraulic aspect is missed by most tourists. I like your take and comments. I too practiced a trade for 36 years. As tradesmen we look at things in a more practical way. Thanks for your videos.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Tomas, mike

[@energyexecs]

"Ain't no big deal"! High falutin! Thank you Mike - We say that in the deep California rural areas below the Sierra mountains and foothills of the Central San Joaquin Valley. "Ain't no big deal" ! My mason buddies would say the same! No biggie. It's called hard work! Keep up the great work.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks energyexecs,,, Mike

[@meetoobaa]

At 1:18 you mention the protutions and what they were used for.. but never say what they were used for.

[@MikeHaduck]

I would assume for lifting and then maybe a lot of them were removed later on, but it’s s assumption, thanks, Mike

[@zachh2776]

Mike, i love watching your videos bud, but id love to pose a challenge to you. I dont think that aliens had anything to do with these incredible megalithic structures that we find all over the world. I do believe though that there is an ancient technique of working the stone (and moving them) that i think is lost to us. We are so distracted by technology, something that ancient people had not the benefit of. Here is a link to a youtube video of the Roqa wall, in Peru. I do believe you hsd seen this. I would love to hear your thoughts on how this was accomplished. Each block is unique and it seems like it was burned, melted. I dont know! How can these be so polished. I know you say it was sand. . Would you be able to demonstrate this with two blocks of the same material. Its almost, glass-like. I look forward to watching your egypt videos. I am curious to see what you think of the hand carved granite vases, or the polished statues. Iam from PA as well. Are you a Steelers or Eagles fan? Here is the link..... its a great little video. Un-produceable, without modern tools!! m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ-oaoZoaq6Vfq8

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Zack, it's just time and manpower, impressive but primitive, thanks mike

[@TheCount1111]

I'd love to see you or anyone make something like this wall at Sacsayhuaman - just one little part like this, with 1 ton or larger stones, using only stone or copper tools, then estimate how many people and how much time it would take to build all of the walls like this near Cusco: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2qtkJysgtyHrsU (if the link doesn't show up, it's "The Living Stones of Sacsayhuaman" by Ombio Productions, at 5:30 in). I'm not a mason, but trained in geology, and I'm just very puzzled by these tightly fitted, multi-stone curves and angles, and chipping away at a small block of granite just doesn't seem to get it. Maybe less with the limestone, but these blocks are huge and you'd have to keep moving them together and apart again, and chipping and grinding, and ending up with a fit that you can't slip a piece of paper into anywhere. Heck, if you can't do that, go ahead and use modern tools. The wall would look great on your property or for a wealthy client. If there aren't any wealthy clients in Wilkes-Barre, haul them on down to Philly or into NYC. It's not that far for a few hundred tons of stone. Incas and Egyptians tossed these around, right? :-) (Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you doing this video, and it was both informative and amusing ;-) )

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi TheCount, I can’t see what the big deal is in Cusco, I was at the Great Wall of China 1300 miles long, far more impressive, coral castle was done by a 90 pound man, I guess you got to work with stone to understand, thanks for the comment, mike

[@TheCount1111]

@@MikeHaduck - the big deal isn't really the size or amount of stones, or how far they had to be moved. When you have basically unlimited slave labor, sure you can accomplish a lot. What I'm saying is, I don't think anyone today could build walls like the non-linear cut ones at Sacsayhuaman using modern tools in a "reasonable" amount of time or with a "reasonable" amount of labor. So thousands of years ago, how could they have done this even with thousands of slaves and using rock or copper tools... or maybe the bigger question is "why?" Why would they put all those resources into making "puzzle piece" block walls instead of just cutting rectangular blocks, which I'm sure you'd agree is much easier? I still believe they had some method of lost technology (not saying it was aliens ;-) ). There are things like this in many other places like Puma Punku that experienced stonecutters like you have examined and said "we couldn't do this even now..." (yeah, I know about coral castle - not so impressive...). Just looking for honest, open-minded discussion about this oddity. Thanks for the reply!

[@markrubin7059]

You make a lot of sense, Mike. Your insight as a stone mason was helpful regarding Ollantayambo! Regarding the stones being chiseled by other stone, check out Thor Hyerdahl's book Aku-Aku about Rapa Nui (Easter Island). The locals proved that the moai were carved by hand stone chisels using a denser stone than the carved material. It takes time, but the Incans would have had how many laborers to undertake their project. Also, regarding a saw to cut stone, I agree. The incas did metallurgy and could have made saws. King Herod's temple in Jerusalem had megalithic stones quarried and cut with metal saws for the foundation of the temple (see Leen Rittmeyer's book Secret's of Jerusalem's Temple Mount). Sorry to the aliens that they were not helpful nor needed for Incan construction.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Mark, I agree, Mike

[@LeeKennedy-cc6il]

So the uap move the stones,

[@MikeHaduck]

I don't know what that is, thanks, Mike

[@TheCount1111]

Could they have actually "made" these stones? These scientific studies were from Tiahuanaco and Puma Punku, but maybe apply to other sites also? What do you think? www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/tiahuanaco-monuments-tiwanaku-pumapunku-bolivia/

[@MikeHaduck]

hi Count, I don't see it. they are all natural stones as far as I am concerned, they all have distinct characteristics of natural stone, I could quickly tell the difference between something man made and natural almost with my eyes closed, thanks mike

[@giggitygoo3945]

Excellent video mike...cheers

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks giggity, mike

[@getblasted5052]

Great video especially the ending. I enjoy your knowledge I’m a guppy in this field and in actually learning it for more knowledge. I’ve seen many on this platform and your videos are great. I hope you return email convo requests. Your insight is amazing. As far as the ending I can show you something on that tip. Not to change once belief in creation at all. I agree with time statements, and your point. Yet I can show what you asked to see. It’s and amazing blue water filled rock we spin on, in a beautiful solar system, spiraling in a perfect universe. Creation and chaos all composing a mesmerizing musical masterpiece. I’m a Georgia native yet my second home is Santa Rosa and Destin …. Like you I have seen many marvels. So I agree humans don’t give our ancestors enough credit.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks getblaster, I appreciate it,, Mike

[@spriggsgone]

Conveniently forgot to mention that those stones were quarried on the other side of that valley over by that "face"... How in the Hell did "They" move, Lift and Place them 100 ton Stones???

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi spring, I find lots of stuff on the Internet, so no use me explaining, thanks, mike

[@stevenmetz8642]

@@MikeHaduck None of which explains the transportation of megalithic stones to the top of an Andean peak, if so , you would be able to cite date, time and ip address. Your selective blindness to the obvious is very telling.

[@pistonmeyers]

Mike Haduck A word of advise. Your information on stone working is very informative. Such a good job explaining and demonstrating. Stick to what you know. Your conversation of scientists, Einstein, theology, and time is confused. Most scientist refute intelligent design. Intelligent design has been proposed by some theologians. Than there is Einstein's theory of spacetime as the 4th dimension. Having been down this rabbit hole many times I still struggle to understand it. I can tell you it is not what you think it is though. This advice is based on the concept of Dunning Kruger effect.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Paul, I guess you can say it is a side interest of mine ,on my web page I got a bible commentary called creation, thanks mike

[@MikeHaduck]

mikehaduck.com/creation/ here is the link, let me know what you think,

[@BredanKirby-oc8gg]

Ok hero what about the temples in India did they bash rocks to produce those intricate temples?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi, I did videos, "carving stones with ancient technology (part 1 & 2) no big deal, thanks Mike

[@crazyking50]

Mr Haduck has single handedly uprooted established theories of how all of these structures were built .

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi crazy, check out my videos, carving stones with ancient technology, part 1&2 thanks Mike

[@RayWilliamJohansen]

I have a hard time believing in your theory. For one it would take a long time to smooth out all those rocks using your technique and to this day we do not for sure, no one does. To carry all those rocks up a mountain is quite remarkable. The best cranes and machines we have would not be able to carry some of these rocks up a mountain, not to mention that the logistics/practicality behind it would be quite difficult.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Ray, I worked with a guy who moved houses and I watched old timers use wedges instead of Jack's to raise them, and worked with stone all my life, I am still putting pyramid videos out, it's all make believe what they they say, thanks Mike

[@RayWilliamJohansen]

@@MikeHaduck There is a big difference between moving a house and rocks that weight several dozen tons up a steep slope. I think the best theory out there is that the pyramids were poured in. Here is a good documentary that goes over it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX6kpZ6grsSMgZY&t

[@MikeHaduck]

I been working stone all my life and was egypt 3 times, that's the biggest lie in the world, 95% of those stones are not that big, thanks moke

[@RayWilliamJohansen]

@@MikeHaduck but you can't actually prove it, no need to get offended.

[@MikeHaduck]

I dont have to prove it , they do, why would someone grind the stone to dust then get all the firewood to heat it and burn off the hydrogen then thransport it and then reset it when all you have to do is move the original stone,?

[@bogieviews]

Mike, great to see someone apply common sense and work to these structures. Given enough time and trial-and-error, problems get solved. Still, though, there are those saw cuts... Maybe they solved that also. I watched a video where this regular hard working guy using his electrical and mechanical knowledge completely solved the Choral Castle construction. Keep going, very interesting and entertaining.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks big, I appreciate it, mike

[@bogieviews]

@@MikeHaduck Cool, my handle came about because I posted videos of my smart parrot Bogie. Looking forward to more of your videos.

[@UnbeltedSundew]

I love all your field trip and historical videos exploring masonry. Thanks for the video.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Unbelted, mike

[@astolatpere11]

Can you please do a video on that guy who built the coral castle in Florida in the '20s.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Nick, I did do one before they found the film of him moving the stones, someday I will have to do it over, thanks mike

[@holdmybeer]

thanks for the demonstration and professional knowledge.

[@MikeHaduck]

thanks holdmybeer, mike

[@cin8-films]

Nice video Mike!

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Mando, Mike

[@wayneisanamerican]

I am so happy to hear from someone who doesn't think everything was done by aliens. I am wondering, though, if you have any theories about how they moved 100 plus ton stones especially those at Balback? I suspect that those knobs are points for attachment of some kind of rope and they used a variation of a wooden siege engine.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi wayneisan, I will eventually get to some more videos on Peru when I get time, but already you are thinking like me, thanks, mike

[@brandinojam24]

Those "shims" are looking like a stylistoc choice and not put in because because of a crack. Where are the cracks by the other shims?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi branding, I did a video,"carving stone with ancient technology " part 1 & 2, Mike haduck,, it's all there, thanks Mike

[@nobodythatyouknow241]

Went there in 2018. Fantastic place. Cusco, Ollantaytambo, Machu Picchu.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks, yep, a great trip, Mike

[@buckhorncortez]

I live in New Mexico and we have aliens...now if we could get the aliens to build a wall...we'd be all set.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Buckhorn, you got to pay them, lol, mike

[@sniffulsquack5608]

i loved you for your masonry videos, i jad no idea youv visited all legendary arcitecture spots.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks , I been around, lol, mike

[@anacalderon4128]

Que espectacular!! Gracias Mike

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Ana, mike

[@jmcc1976]

Your videos are excellent! ... Thank you so much! ... you said that you will talk about the cattaclism that dispersed those megalithic stones in Ollantaytambo at the end of the clip but you didn't ... Peruvian author and mysticist Daniel Ruzo (1900-1990) said a great disaster happened 9,000 years ago and that the megalithic structures in Ollantaytambo were proof of that ... So those structures were built by another civilization, never by the Incas ... The small megalithic wall at the top, which is made with six big stones whose weight may reach up to 80-90 tons (the bigger one) acording to Ruzo, was part of a planed temple that was not finished due to that cattaclism or maybe was finished but destroyed in that event ... On one of those stones you can find the "scalonated sign", a symbol from that civilization ...

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Jorge, I can't say what happened or when, but I haven't seen anything that can't be duplicated today, i appreciate it, Mike

[@ybeev3409]

Hi Mike, Great video! I love the simple explanation of these fantastic sites. I do like to watch any video's of ancient sites as I find the stone work fascinating especially the so called "polygonal" walls. I have never felt comfortable with the Alien's, fairy dust or sonic screwdriver explanations. I think some folks look for the most unlikely solution for the hard to explain. They cannot see that this was just skilled craftsmen with a problem to solve and a job to do. Its a shame though that stone work is difficult to date it would be great to know just have far back in history some of these sites go.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Ybe, I agree, mike

[@jetheridge3798]

Who knows maybe they made a wooden jig like with lots of slide sticks to match one side to the other .thats what those bumps were for to put the jig back in the exact same place .or the humps were made to walk the stone ..?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi J, whatever, but it was all trial and error, Mike

[@moviebuffbabe5651]

nice video :D those funny looking sheep are used as pack animals and raised for their hair as well...llama. maybe they helped cart tools and such huh? lots of fun as always keep up the good work :D

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks BuffBabe, I knew something was odd about them, lol. , mike

[@tricks4trades795]

Great video🤘🏻

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks, mike

[@CForged]

Good show Mike Those funny looking sheep are the Protectors. Regular sheep are so thankful when those guys are around

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Dominic, I know now, lol. , mike

[@johncrowe5164]

If You Did Start a Class Action Lawsuit Would You Use a Space Attorney or One of Them Philadelphia Lawyers I Hear So Much About ?

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi John, I know a retired judge who is interested, civil suit, maybe criminal, we will see, lol mike

[@johncrowe5164]

Around Here People Are Always Sayin it Don't Take a Philadelphia Lawyer to Figure that Out.. I Figured they Might Need Something to Do.. You Can Always Tell when s Space Lawyer is Lying to Ya.. It's Gills Are Moving. a Judge is Always a Better Choice!

[@anecologistspeaks6422]

So good listening to you, thank you.

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Robert, Mike

[@darkfire866]

Thanks for the video ... the red granite that is sitting on rubble ...why do you thank they did that??? As opposed to leveling the bedrock.... I came up with a half baked theory that they are not where they are ment to be placed originally.... anyhow excellent footage Sir

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi darkfire, I would guess when they got the stones there they just burried the bottom, with a floor, they knew no one would see it, my guess, thanks, mike

[@darkfire866]

@@MikeHaduck it somewhat negates the popular theory that the megalithic builders didn't build with rubble. Also have you noticed parts seem to be shimmed from the top down ?

[@MikeHaduck]

@@darkfire866 , all I can say is I call it the way my experience sees it. I appreciate it. mike

[@darkfire866]

@@MikeHaduck well I appreciate your videos and your experianced opinion also the demonstrations in rock cutting/ hammering . I will be blocking in some of my basement windows this spring now that I know how . Thanks again.

[@patrickday4206]

A man from the geopolmer institute said he did some testing and some stones down there had a coating of a natural geopolmer like natural mortar that coated the stone but if you chipped it off you could see a clear difference in the structure of the stone between the outside and inside.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Patrick, I didn't see anything like that, it was all basic stone to me, thanks mike

[@patrickday4206]

@@MikeHaduck good to know thanks

[@tomc.2808]

6.40 yes they can do that this way, for 2- 3000 years on 1 wall..., but nice video...

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Tom, I have a video out called, carving stone with ancient technology, Mike haduck, thanks mike

[@Kurtlane]

I still don't get how one could make a precise cut in an enormous stone to put it on top of and even bigger stone, when that bigger stone had bends and curves, so that it would end up a nearly perfect fit. And those people probably didn't even have pencils and paper, or anything like that.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Kurt, simple, you make patterns or scribe like a puzzle a fit them, any granite installer could show you, thanks Mike

[@thesmallestatom]

Thank you Mike for all your videos. You've taught me so much! Keep the spirit of Pennsylvania alive!!!

[@MikeHaduck]

Thank you, Mike

[@brickbybric]

Good video mike .

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks bric, mike

[@JRPrust]

What gauge bosom is as there is a north pole and south pole There is gauge non boson so we are to wonder, quantum computer or portable bat computer in 1960 batman ??????

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi JR, I don't know what your talking about? as far as stone work I have lots of videos out, check out "carving stones with ancient technology " part 1 & 2, Mike haduck

[@tuncaycakici118]

The earliest known production of Carbon steel is seen in pieces of ironware excavated from an archaeological site in Anatolia (Kaman-Kalehöyük) and are nearly 4,000 years old.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi tuncay,, I believe it and they even used diamonds to cut, thanks Mike

[@davidwootton683]

A reply to 15past2! Thank you for your interesting comments. And I did read your other comment to Mike. Jade is two minerals. Nephrite Hardness Mohs 6.00 to 6.50. Jadeite Hardness Mohs 6.00 to 7.00. Quartz Hardness Mohs up to 7.00. Granite Hardness Mohs 6.00 to 6.50, This will vary with type. The Mohs scale works on the higher number being able to scratch the lower numbers. I do not know where you got your information from. But? Maybe it would be a good idea to check your facts before calling something "Utter nonsense!!!!". Wikipedia is a good source.

[@georgekane1985]

LOVE THE HUMOR!

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks George, Mike

[@JR-gc8el]

The problem with this is your looking at it as a modern job, done by some company that is in the business of doing this , like yourself , so you view it differently and why your opinion of it will be one sided and you dont realize what or who did this and what was really involved.

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi J R, those sites are not as impressive as they want you to believe, especially when you work in the trades, thanks, Mike

[@michaelj2536]

Twenty whacks on a 10 x 12 inch stone doesnt get you anywhere but twenty whacks worth .....now if he was to complete one of the big blocks that the ancients did and level it off and fit it, then he'd have a convert. That's like me saying "Hey look I just threw this board in the water and it floats.....so that proves I could build a boat and sail the deep blue sea......nope......all it proves is that wood floats.....

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Michael, all it takes is time, money, and manpower, no big deal, thanks mike

[@joedominick7517]

Great Video Mike! I love the comments!

[@MikeHaduck]

Thanks Joe, mike

[@johndoe6668]

Another great explanation, thanks Mike.

[@MikeHaduck]

thanks john , mike

[@reneperez1092]

Good vid, the bigger mystery is how they moved 70 ton rocks up a mountain and positioned them

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi René, I will be addressing that on the next video of Peru, there is lots of stuff on the Internet with one person moving tons of stone, thanks, Mike

[@crudefoyer]

They most likely used the very long ramp that leads up to where the rocks were positioned. The ramp can easily be seen in photos from the site. Some folks who do videos on the site seem to intentionally leave the ramp out of their video and photos to make it more mysterious than it is.

[@gregkunkel8704]

Thanks for the adventure. I wish I had some intergalactic aliens to help me for a few weeks. I'll be hammering stones in my nightmares

[@MikeHaduck]

Hi Greg, I agree, lol, mike

[@jamesw4582]

Great video. Thanks