OM System OM-1 and Panasonic GH6: We answer your questions

It's been an exciting time for Micro Four Thirds, and we're seeing a lot of questions about the new OM Systems OM-1 and Panasonic GH6. Chris and Jordan take a few minutes to answer some of them in front of a (lit, for a change) fireplace.
0:00 - Intro
0:53 - Video autofocus
1:48 - Best photo quality
3:08 - Live ND
3:58 - Shutter shock
4:27 - Base ISO
5:07 - Recording limits
5:52 - Fan noise
6:25 - Fish detect
7:24 - 6K Photo mode
8:15 - The wrap
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[@erichramone7812]

Man your channel is my favorite photography channel out of all of them. You guys are pleasant and don’t offend others overtly and give your well rounded review impartially I might add and others could learn more than an thing or two from your way of doing it. Thank you.

[@youfollow_]

om system hope you heard what you missing to lead the game. AI Fish Subject Detection and 120fps 4k. micro 4/3 will lead again

[@christiankautschitsch6063]

You guys are the gold standard for camera reviews! Definitely deserve more subscribers!

[@missti9012]

Love how your reviews are always so respectful of the M43s community, you guys are always so honest and unbias. THANK YOU!

[@jaysantiago-BX-NY]

You guys are the best! 👏👏👍🏼 I was planning to purchase both of these cameras, however, due to the failure of neither having Fish Detect, I'm sticking with my Note 20 Ultra which does a phenomenal job at this! 😤😂🤣😂

[@cokrlicix]

I was wondering the same thing as Erich, you guys are one class above the rest of the photo channels and I simply can not believe that your sub count is not in millions. Keep up the good work guys, really appreciate what you do.

[@martin_the_artist_]

Best photography review channel by far 👌🏻 keep it up guys

[@RyanDeLaTorre]

Since you asked for more questions, here are some of my questions about the GH6! 1) How is the stabilization when shooting really wide? On the GH5, I would get corner-warping if I walked with the camera at 8mm or 10mm. (Referring to the 8-18mm and the 10-25mm lenses specifically.) 2) Does the GH6 let you generate timelapses with all the same crazy codec options as normal recording? (e.g. can we generate 5.7K ProRes timelapses in-camera?) You guys are awesome and I'm excited for the return of Wooden Nichols! (The Collateral video was so great, one of my favorite videos you've done.)

[@davidaltizer]

I'm here for the fish. 6:30 was the best part

[@michaelreaves6212]

Watching now, I'm trying to decide what to buy for a video camera, thanks!

[@spanksen]

Thank you super much guys for supporting the MFT System ❤️

[@MarkThomas1]

Just to second Martin - Best photography review channel by far 👌🏻 keep it up guys

[@dansaghin1]

no doubt you are one of the best channels in your field... keep it up!!!

[@Interceptor121]

Thanks very much for answering my question. I have loads of ND filters however with an ND64 usually autofocus even single push on struggles. I will have the camera soon and give it a go

[@olesheim]

Thank you guys for great content! For a future episode I hope you test Olympus lenses on Panasonic cameras and vice versa. How well do they work and what are the limitations? Does in camera lens correction work both ways? Does computational photography features work across lens brands? And what about third party manufacturers, how good is their implementation? This is worth a episode, and I hope you’re being very critical about manufacturer’s ruining the great M43 system. Also fellow readers, please reply to this post with your experiences. It might help our two great video guys. :-)

[@secretsofthelake1966]

Many thanks for the rant on the lack of fish detect AF

[@etchd_]

Great video guys! Just so you know, the om-1 will still split the files into 4gb chunks if you use an sdhc ad card. It won't if you use an SDXC 😉

[@Real_Natural]

Agreed you guys need 1M subs. 400k is not shabby to be sure. But you guys are DPR and produce great content sometimes even funny and entertaining!

[@mikeczap7369]

Just wanted to put this out there. There is already a Lumix G10, DP reviewed it in 2010. Thanks for the video guys!! An excellent job as usual. Ordered my GH6 yesterday, should be here Tuesday.. really looking forward to getting it. Want to compare to my G9 and G85. Yes, I’m more of a photographer, but I want to add video to what I can offer people. I use the 10-25 lens 99% of the time, an amazing lens!! I feel like I’m already half way set up for decent video with that lens, the GH6 and the extra batteries from the G9 working in the GH6, I won’t have to spend a whole lot more to be comfortable making videos. Only thing I’m debating is finding the right CFExpress card, which I have done zero research on so far… or just waiting for the firmware update to write directly to a SSD… decisions decisions…

[@Durio_zibethinus]

I want a successor of GM series, and new pancake lenses. Hope panasonic going back to their root when their main advantage is a small size. We know you love GM5, Chris. Give them a push, shall we?

[@niccollsvideo]

When they went away from that form factor I was very sad. I've tried but almost ten years later, they still aren't going back to the GM design. I failed.

[@terrywbreedlove]

I am looking at the old Minox 35 GT for that right now. It is film but I also love film.

[@Les_Carnets_de_Tom]

Yess but personnaly I would like a real succesor to Gx8 or a new pen system. Micro 4/3 is perfect for range finder

[@yawningmarmot]

@@niccollsvideo please test GH6 preamps compared to GH5 when you get the chance. GH5 preamps are rather noisy.

[@raksh9]

Still enjoying my GM1, years on. I wish Panasonic would bring that line back.

[@hakonsoreide]

Nice video. It seems like a great time to get back into M43 these days. If I had known I would start doing videos, I would have stayed with it, but I am getting decent mileage out of my FZ1000 that I went for as my all-in-one to replace my M43 system many years ago after I got tired of lugging around and swapping lenses and feeling that constant need to add something new to my kit. When my FZ1000 eventually throws in the towel, it's not unlikely I will get a GH6 or one of its future successors.

[@sefritz8715]

You picked good questions to answer! Thanks

[@johnnymossville]

Keep the mft content coming. I am waiting for your full review before making a purchase.

[@chrisjohnston964]

The lit fireplace just put the production value through the roof. Hazzah!

[@blackbugmedia]

Thanks for this comparison!

[@ActionXander]

As someone who's starting to put more fishing content out... I'm super disappointed in the lack of the AI-smart fish autofocusing feature. Travesty is an understatement. Great stuff as always, guys!

[@niccollsvideo]

We have to center focus and recompose like cavemen.

[@ahdnoh]

I have had the panny boy G9 for a while now. That camera has changed so much from launch with their firmware upgrades. How much better could the GH6 be with future firmware updates and what features from the GH6 could trickle down to other cameras. Hoping for further focus improvements and maybe sharing the new color science.

[@JUSTINRYANPRODUCTION]

GH6 looks great, OM does have some solid features. I’ll stay on the BMPCC4k for my work w an old G7 still going for b-cam. Good to have options for my full kit of Meike and Siriu cinema glass

[@DatuDieter]

What a great idea to answer the questions that came up about the camera. I hope you continue this service. Here are my questions: I come from the Lumix GH series I have all cameras 1-5. Now I'm considering getting a new camera and of course the GH6 but also the OM1 are up for discussion. I have read and looked at a lot about the advantages of the OM1. My question: I almost only have Panasonic lenses. 10-35 mm 1.7, 12-60 mm 2.8-4 and 100-400 mm 4-6,3 to name a few. I also have the Olympus 40-150 mm 2.8 though. All these, except of the 40-150mm, worked very well with the dual stabilization (IBIS and lens stabilization) on the GH5. Is the autofocus just as good with the Panasonic lenses? Is the tracking a serial photo shooting with Lumix lenses, especially the 100-400 possible? Do bird and animal recognition work? Is stacking or preroll possible? And what about the lens correction regarding distortion and chromatic aberration? I would be interested in opinions which would help in my decision. Thanks in advance

[@assafrutenberg]

Your videos continue to inform and entertain. I look forward to each of them. As far as the subscription numbers go, it's a crying shame they aren't higher. My best suggestion would more videos of Jordan curled upon the ground in a fetal position.

[@joerama]

Chris, you may joke about fish autofocus, @6:30 but… Olympus cameras have a great reputation for underwater photography! So fish autofocus would be (IMO) a huge and obvious gain. Unfortunately, I checked for an underwater housing for the OM-1 yesterday, and… no joy from anyone. Not Olympus. Not the 3P alternatives. I hope that changes because, with all the improvements including +2 stops low light performance and +1 stop dynamic range, the huge battery improvements, I would love to use the OM-1 as my underwater camera. So, please don’t joke like underwater shouldn’t be a priority! 1/2 :-)

[@ookiemand]

#me too! I'm very pleased to know that Olympus seriously did clean up many of the major drawbacks, like menu, video files, tracking! And I am the type for camera since I'm an adventurer going up in the mountains and deep under water.

[@marcofabiocarosi2996]

Could talk about the respective dynamic ranges for both photo and video. Thank you!

[@HansBaier]

Thanks! Very helpful!

[@LonerMob]

Would it be possible for a firmware update to improve the high res shot in the OM? Maybe selectable options for 30-45 mp?

[@TITAOSTEIN]

Great job guys! I ask myself if the OMD and LUMIX chose the right sensor. Because I think that the 25mp sensor with incredible HighRes would make more sense on the OM1 and I think that the 20mp with fantastic AF would make more sense on the video centric GH6…

[@terrywbreedlove]

I wonder if OM1 can get that hand held mode up to the Panasonic level with firmware ?

[@CanuckQuest]

Great job!

[@CanuckQuest]

SO good to someone recognizing and using focus limiter.

[@BootStrapTurnerVideography]

Great fireside chat! I guess the question is which does green screen better? Allows those of us to loop a video of a Yule log during our own chats..

[@terrywbreedlove]

Panasonic's hand held high resolution mode looks like a game changer. But I need Olympus wildlife AF tracking. Hoping an OM1 firmware update can match the Panasonic hand held mode for landscapes.

[@DGBomber]

Same

[@veronikagundersen9334]

Probably they could tweak the rendering with moving subjects, but honestly 80 Mpix is plenty.

[@DGBomber]

@@veronikagundersen9334 yeah the inportant thing Is to make It usable with movivg subjects

[@danieldougan269]

Obviously, the GH6 is the superior camera for video. However, what I see from the OM-1 is enough of an improvement to make it a more viable option for professional video and filmmaking. Am I wrong for thinking that? There's always more OM could have done. Built-in video assist tools like waveforms and vectorscopes would help too. I could always plug in my monitor for that, but I shouldn't have to. However, that brings me to another issue. A full-size HDMI port would have been welcome. If you need to use an external recorder to get the best quality, the port that plugs into it should be sturdy. The OM-1's phase-detect autofocus (with improved tracking) is the deciding factor for me.

[@spritual_enlightenment]

Pre-burst shots & focus stacking should come to GH6. How much is video bit rate of OM-1? Olympus used to maintain at very low amout. ie. low data per second.

[@gangrenejin8212]

I want to know is there any different in video quality at the same rate, such as 4K 60p, between OM1 and Gh6 ? My second question is which is better in in-stabilization for videography between the two m43 new flagship camera. Thank you very much.

[@DynamixWarePro]

I have a few questions about the GH6: 1) How is V-Log compared to V-Log L on previous Panasonic MFT cameras? Especially with and without DR Boost ON. 2) Is the LCD screen compared to the GH5, any brighter/have less reflections in bright light? 3) When I have shot V-Log L with the GH5 in 10-bit 4:2:2 either IPB or ALL-I, I have noticed there can be what looks like red fringing around contrasting edges of some objects in the frame, such as tree branches against a sky and I have noticed it in out of focus white window frames in one of my videos. its not chromatic aberrations as it doesn't show up when I take a photo in V-Log L or take a photo/video in other picture profiles and it shows up with different lenses so its not a lens issue. Is there any issues like that with V-Log on the GH6? 4) How is the noise when shooting with DR Boost ON in lower light? 5) Do the colors from the GH6 still look the same as the GH5 or are they any different at all, especially in V-Log? 6) Could you do a video comparing the video quality in 4K between the GH6, GH5 and GH5 II? For those wanting to know if it is worth the upgrade and if there are any improvements in image quality over the previous cameras in 4K? Also in V-Log? I am asking about V-Log as I shot all my videos with V-Log L on my GH5 and I plan to only use V-Log on the GH6 for video when I get it for the extra dynamic range and options in editing over other picture profiles.

[@rodrigobarajas647]

I've been watching your videos for a long time, finally I noticed I wasn't subscribed, I corrected that!

[@cahir85]

Does Olympus be good choice for shooting concerts, events (low light situations)?

[@alhOOO2O]

The big question from this video is: How come the fire is much clearer when behind Jordan in the single shot? What kind of mystical energy is he bringing that causes the flames to be brighter and higher? When are you going to answer the IMPORTANT questions DPRTV??

[@niccollsvideo]

Maybe he was a little gassy that day? Dunno.

[@_BatCountry]

That question about subscribers is really on point. This channel is simultaneously really big and really underrated. It's by far my favourite. I think I have a burgeoning parasocial relationship with it.

[@EricGibaud]

fantastic! we need autofocus for fish LOL!!!

[@tycham85]

While I’m interested in how they compare in high-ISO photography, I’m also interested in how much of a performance bump in terms of stops and dynamic range the OM-1 is over the EM1m2/3.

[@mromagnoli]

I believe OM-DS said that it has one full stop more in Dynamic Range.

[@tycham85]

@@mromagnoli true, but as much as I like Olympus/OMS, I put more confidence in DPReview and other reviewers than company marketing. I’d just like someone to confirm/deny the claim. It’s weird how there wasn’t too much overlap in terms of what outlets got the OM-1 and which got the GH6.

[@malcolmpotter]

I have a question on the cameras in that Im all Panasonic Pro lenses with my GH4 so are they fully compatible with the OM-1 especially with view to Power O.I.S Thanks Mal

[@colourberry]

Your GH6 review mentiones write errors on the cfexpress cards. Any chance to check on that?

[@yannl.3530]

Oh boy, love the fish part. Ok now, because of your review of the gH6 i just bought a GH6 to replace my trusty GH5 ! Saw many videos and review but definitely you are the guys that i trust most concerning camera. Thanks for your great work !

[@etibkel]

nice stuff!

[@kilohotel6750]

I’m interested in the Olympus but only if I could find the 150-400 F4.5 lens. Nobody has them in stock and it’s been like for a year.

[@ellevi470]

Hi, how does the OM-1 AF tracking with Lumix optics (25 fps, or 10 fps)?

[@edwardlin2941]

Thanks

[@skysurfer5cva]

Insect detect would be nice to have, especially for photographing bees and butterflies....and politicians. 🙂

[@AndyLSB]

would it be possible to compare the GH6 with the G9 for stills ? since the G9 is in theory the second best photo centric camera from Panasonic in MFT, in terms of photo features, autofocus and IQ, maybe some video IQ as a bonus (Please Jordan :D ) I think this would be interesting for us G9 users to check if its best to upgrade to the GH6 or keep our G9s.

[@Democratiser]

An excellent plea. Oh and if Panasonic is reading, please (1) add the focus limiter functionality to the G9 and (2) increase or remove the 30 minute video record limit.

[@AndyLSB]

@@Democratiser highly agree 🙏🏻👌🏻

[@ahdnoh]

I just hope the G9 gets a taste of some those GH6 feature in the firmware update.

[@raredreamfootage]

I forgot to ask one very important question!! - When connected via the micro-hdmi to an external monitor, does Touch AF still work? On the EM1 Mark II and Mark III, the Touch Screen on the rear LCD was disabled when using an external monitor via micro-hdmi. This was a big deal breaker for me as I couldn't touch track my subject because I always use an external monitor!

[@divides_by_zero]

It looks like you are using the Rode Wireless Go II. I'm curious as to why Chris is using the windshield on his mic since you are indoors. Is it just to hide the transmitter? To reduce clothes rustle? To reduce noise from his central heating? Genuine question (but I did throw the last one in there for fun). Thanks for the video.

[@mromagnoli]

The one thing that is keeping me from considering an OM-1 is the lack of a GPS....I have found that pretty valuable in my photography.

[@workingwiththelight3119]

Thank you. Has the mic preamps on OM-1 improved? I heard Olympus preamps were noisy. I am considering upgrading from my Canon M50.

[@TheNarrowbandChannel]

They are complexity new preamps and are much improved according to reviewers.

[@yawningmarmot]

@@TheNarrowbandChannel Any idea about GH6 compared to GH5? I find that GH5 has rather noisy preamps.

[@terryvitanza28]

Is the HHHR mode usable with moving subjects like animals? What kind of shutter speeds are usable in that mode?

[@KiinaSu]

Yeah don't. Portraits work in HHHR with the GH6 if you don't move, but if you wanna go birding or something forget about the HHHR. Especially since you probably want more detail on the moving animal, which you don't get when it does correct for movement.

[@NBPT428]

Very informative as always. In front of the fireplace without Moscow Mules? C'mon guys.....

[@cian.horgan]

My MFT wishlist from OM is something like a Pen F II; gimme small, good IBIS, as much computational stuff as possible, and an EVF and I'm delighted. Happy to compromise grip/ergonomics, the quality of one or both the displays, battery life, sports autofocus, and it doesn't have to be super cheap, just give like a turbo smartphone with a viewfinder and interchangeable lenses. Even if they go back to the old removable EVF style that's fine (as long as it tilts like the old one, I might even prefer that to a more compact fixed finder) The new Pen EP7 is close(ish) but it doesn't have high Res mode or any of the fun computational goodies, or an EVF option. Body and controls look lovely though and that's not a bad price even with those compromises

[@MistrZIGZAG]

Can someone explain why you’d want a small sensor for the same price as a full frame?

[@michaelnewell9662]

G10, i want it NOW!

[@JohnMFlores]

2:15 Nice camera!

[@MattParson]

Can the Om-1 record video to both cards?? One reason I like the Sony A1 is that I can record redundant photo and video files to both cards.

[@danprocaccio]

Been wondering the same thing…

[@jackbinyou5672]

Will Panasonic provide 5.8k 60p（5760*3240 not 5728*3024）for GH6 with firmware update in the future? I need 5.8k 16:9 so much.

[@CallMeDHC]

What is the best lens for POV on Panasonic Lumix GH6?

[@orange42]

Really would like some direct comparison photos with GH5. At least to compare jpeg.

[@1883entertainment]

Our Electric Fire Place has a setting to turn on the flames WITHOUT the heat, just so it gives the atmosphere. Maybe your guys has a similar setting somewhere?

[@niccollsvideo]

Mine does too, but the warmth is still pretty intense through the glass. Which in the winter time is lovely. It can still get hot though up close, even with the fan turned off.

[@zkfotos3177]

Regarding fish. Panasonic S series cameras can recognize fish as subject and also Z9 can do Fish eye-AF according to @Riccitalks video.

[@TheNarrowbandChannel]

The month of MFT. I like it.

[@hauke3644]

Olympus has had much support for underwater shooting, so the question for fish detection isn’t that strange… While I‘d appreciate Panasonic‘s motion removal in high res shots, I think that 100 mp is just a waste of storage. Don’t think that many mft lenses can utilize that. 50 mp makes more sense to me. Your channel is the most valuable for photo enthusiasts, so I consider creating a second Google Id in order to subscribe a second time 😜

[@klackon1]

It may just have been tongue in cheek, because Chris is a fly fishing instructor (hence the comedic rant) and often uses an EM1.3 to record fishing trips.

[@williamburkholder769]

Here's where 100MP comes into play: using a Micro 4/3 sensor to digitize medium format to large format film! I will love to be able to digitize 6x4.5 through 6x9 negatives with 100MP. At 1:1, the GH6 would copy around a fourth of a 35mm slide or negative, too, so there is lots of flexibility there. 25 MP is probably plenty for 35mm, though. Heck, I can't complain about the GH4 now.

[@MarioPalomera]

Could you guys do a review on the fireplace? Is it gas based? Looks nice

[@niccollsvideo]

Developed in 1999, Chris' fireplace is a natural gas based heating unit with a fan for added warmth throughout the house. It has run flawlessly for twenty years, a testament to it's excellent build quality. Recently embellished with recovered barn wood around the fascia, it has become a delightful visual centerpiece to the home.

[@MarioPalomera]

@@niccollsvideo Love it! Thanks for the great reply. Love your channel

[@UglyCameras]

When’s the Panasonic GX10 coming?

[@somapublisher]

The lack of the live nd filter in video mode shocks me. Maybe I'll cancel the planned purchase of the OM1

[@robertcrumley007]

Chris, know I’m off topic, but do you still shoot a GM5? Is upgrade to GX85 worth it in terms of IQ and color rendition?

[@michaelrhodes4450]

Fascinating - you said the OM1 was better for stills, especially at high ISO but the images you shred suggested the GH6 is way better - were the images switched??

[@TITAOSTEIN]

No, you just forgot to use glasses!! :)

[@rickkoloian4179]

Hey guys & ditto to others who recognize you both as best gear reviews on line & a question: Do you any sense if Panasonic will consider a scaled down, photography centered camera--a GX10 or G9 ii--with some of GH6's technology? I'm impressed with hand-held Hires, esp Mode 2, but not enough to sell my G9 & still spend some $1,500. Thanks,

[@Marticulate]

Will the OM1 really not have menu touch functionality in the final version?! This is a deal breaker coming from Panasonic mft cameras.

[@inorogNL]

I know I'm late to the party, just got this one question : when is pen F v2 comming !?!

[@jeffhenderson5140]

Hard to believe Olympus or OM can't see the value of having that camera in their lineup.

[@EDHBlvd]

Seriously where is OMD with this? The camera has a market.

[@TheGotoGeek]

If more people had bought the Pen-F originally it would be more likely.

[@terrywbreedlove]

I have had my Pen F since shortly after introduction and still shooting it. I would like a better EVF and AF and will buy version 2 if they can deliver on that. Until then my little silver beauty is holding up very well.

[@michaelcroff7097]

Does the OM1 have autofocus in 4k60?

[@besperus4475]

The TG 6 has a fish detect mode!

[@edwardwalker3229]

I must have missed something but why the Pentax and MZ 50 shots. Didn't get that sorry.

[@imranalijafar]

Can OM 1 record 120 fps video in 2k or is it only 1080 p ?

[@amanandapan9635]

How is the ibis of GH6 when taking photo? Can it stabilize over 1 seconds handheld exposure?

[@niccollsvideo]

It is drastically improved. Now I'm gonna be honest with you, the manufacturers always like to mention how their cameras can pull off insanely slow shutter speeds handheld, and maybe for instagram it looks good, but when magnified motion blur is definitely an issue. However, Olympus is the undisputed king of stability in my opinion, and now the GH6 is very close to that capability.

[@HuyNguyen-xf4um]

Review the Laowa MFT cine lens line up, please

[@ulysses01]

Jimmy’s review of the new Laowa 6mm T2.1 lens here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX-6eIKkbNFmhsk

[@HuyNguyen-xf4um]

@@ulysses01 Thank you for the link, I've seen that video

[@salat]

Ahh, at about 1:02 the GH6 lost the focus although limits were set? :(

[@dailylife6183]

2022 the year of O Micron fourthird

[@lesz344]

I shoot with the Olympus Pen E-P1 that came out in 2009 with 12 MP and has a silver body. Why is it cooler looking than any other micro four-thirds camera even though it was one of the first?

[@petouser]

Nah, obviously the Olympus Pen F is the coolest looking MFT camera.

[@LyndonPatrickSmith]

Re: the question about shutter shock. Panasonic fixed this back in 2016 with the release of the GX85. It has an electromagnetically controlled mechanical shutter which has a great feel and minimal shock. This was carried forward into the G85 and subsequent models.

[@evenhandedcommentor6102]

Totally agree with Chris. It is complete garbage that no camera maker has a fish detection mode. I have a Nauticam housing for my old EM5. But what's the point of getting a new housing if none of the new cameras have fish detection???

[@dccoletrain]

When you can currently buy a S5 for the same price with the addition of 2 lenses is it worth buying the GH6…

[@RobKnight]

Special thanks to Chris Nichols for being one of the only You Tube creators who says ISO correctly. Sorry I couldn't take you guys to Costa Rica for the OM-1 like I did for the E-M1III!

[@ericmenu5408]

Important : For autofocus on the GH6, it seems mandatory to install the very last firmware updates from 1st March 2022 on the lenses, to obtain good autofocus performances with the GH6 and these lenses. See advice from this other video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/npq2XpqqZ7tloqc

[@hukmai]

The moment they add AI flying insect detect IM SOLD!

[@JACKnJESUS]

Enjoy the new camera bodies...I doubt there will be any more.

[@JoeS5263]

"...or a G10". There WAS a G10 a long time ago. It was a slightly de-featured G2. I had one. So I think G9ii is more likely.