OMEGA Constellation Pie Pan 1963 - History & Design

Do you ever asked yourself how much you have to spend for a constellation back in the days? Here is the answer. In this video we tell you everything you have to know about OMEGA´s answer to the Rolex Datejust.

[@Je_McScuse]

Great video, thanks a lot! Since there is a lot of expertise from you and your viewers: I’m stumbling upon a lot of connies with cal. 562 movements (instead of the mentioned cal. 561): Are they replacement movements or have there been pie pans delivered with cal. 562? Keep up the good work!

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks a bunch for your kind feedback!! Unfortunately we also don’t know exactly. We see both movements in pie pan connies. Hopefully some of our viewers can help you out 🙏

[@seabuck59]

I was told that the one in the 561 was sold to the American market and the two was for the European market.

[@walterkiebart9728]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches are you a German national? Cause your accent sounds German.

[@marshallhewitt222]

As I recall the Caliber 561 was regulated by senior technicians to 5 positions, the 562 was regulated by junior techs to 2 positions.

[@NunziBro]

Your youtube page is insanely underrated

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks Owen ! But it’s just our third video 😀✌️

[@NunziBro]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches hahaha. Just noticed that. Well, keep up the fantastic work, I’m sure you’ll grow like crazy

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Haha let’s hope the best 😂🙏

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

Give time to the time.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

🙏

[@adityasanthanam1945]

That is a beautiful watch, especially with the pie-pan dial and all of the great small details.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Absolutely agree! This 3D effect & how it plays with the light is insane

[@jayandersen8543]

I recently bought one from 1960..i was not aware that on the original crystal there was a tiny omega logo...i just had a look at mine and im please to say its there...very happy about that..thanks for that bit of onfo...

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

The little details make the difference 😀 congrats to your new wrist buddy!!

[@mayito714]

Inherited a mint condition 1957 Omega Constellation Pie Pan. Thanks for the history lesson.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Absolutely agree, you’re welcome!

[@ericwilleke6613]

I have my grandfather's constellation. It was a retirement gift from the jewelry store where he worked as a watchmaker and engraver.

[@owfan5050]

Great video, thank you! My 1963 pie pan/onyx on steel connie is the best looking watch on my collection... (even than dj, speedmaster, ug tricompax etc.)

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Sounds like an amazing collection! Thanks a million 🙏

[@tucctucc6214]

Such an awesome watch

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Absolutely!

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I'm so happy to see some with original dials, I don't know why but these Pie Pan dials are often subject of geniuses who try their luck refinishing the dials.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Not only the constellations … but the technics getting better and better. I guess in a few years even experts can’t spot refinished dials.

[@martinmolina4952]

Tuve un Omega geneve de 1958 excelente reloj fue un compañero lo mejor de lo mejor gracias

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

🙏

[@christophschumacher637]

This is my preferred youtube channel about watches. Das ist mein absoluter Lieblingskanal auf KZbin in Sachen Uhren! Weiter so!

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Lieben Dank 🥹🙌

[@topxranked8303]

My absolute favorite watch ❤

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

It’s really a classy beaut ❤️ especially with the pie pan dial

[@michaelkilbride2927]

Lovely watch my dad had one brings back a lot of good memories looking at that watch thank you

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

You’re welcome ☺️

[@maxx_vdv4960]

Fantastic video guys, nailed it again! Personally I'm a hugee fan of the pie pan, it's so unique. I really need to get one oneday, it will pair nice with my c-shape.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks again Max 🙏

[@mrwulf100]

Amazing

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thank you!

[@thomaswagner7600]

Great Informations and video, THANKS!!!

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks for your kind feedback, it’s much appreciated!

[@prilo-Twenty-One]

timeless design 👍

[@hajoaus109]

Nice video Goldammer guys! ❤️💪🏾🔥

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks hansing 🙏😁

[@hajoaus109]

Goldammer Vintage Watches 2 Gees wie das Gucci Logo 😎🙏🏾

[@ARTUROFEDERICOGARZA-zw5ok]

Una joya de reloj excelente, quisiera uno así

[@orkunyildiz698]

Great vid thx for the info👏🏻

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

You’re welcome!

[@marcosquintanaescandon2329]

Muy buen video!!!! Mi enhorabuena por los detalles que no todos dicen. Soy un amante de los relojes y tengo el Constellation, calibre 505 oro 18k del año 1956 y puedo decir que este reloj es mi favorito de todos... no te cansas de mirarle. Los mejores años de Omega sin duda y que decir que el Rolex no le ganaba en nada !!!! gracias y me suscribo.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Unfortunately I don’t speak Spanish but I understand muy bien :D thanks for your kind feedback!!

[@marcosquintanaescandon2329]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches thanks so much!

[@MrKanjidude]

Love your videos. Superb videography and lighting, and good historical information. Pure class.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Much thanks for your kind feedback!!

[@vitvel]

Such an exquisite piece!

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

We couldn’t agree more!

[@msbrownbeast]

I think back in the 60s, a Constellation Piepan sold for a similar price as the Rolex Datejust (same case material).

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Indeed

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

Constellation was too a model of airplane. Worlwide famous.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

It’s a theory. 🫠🙌

[@carnivoraspuchuncavi5393]

Hello, good morning, ask, what is the diameter of the bezel of an omega Pie pan?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Hey, 35mm :)

[@levitinilya]

awsome. thank you. i am a fan of your page on instagram! you guys are great!!!

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thaaanks Ilya 🙏🙏 have a great start into the week! Cheers

[@Saints-Forever]

Great infor on the much loved connies. I am not sure about how the name Constellation come about though as their are other KZbinrs who described it was named after a plane or sort.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Jep there are different information on the web. Some sources mean it’s named after an airliner from WWII called “Lockheed” constellation... but we don’t know what’s really the truth. The medallion with the stars makes more sense to us

[@Saints-Forever]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches I agree with you. Not sure why the plane is being dragged into this logic.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

It’s always difficult to find the right information about the heritage of a watch brand😅

[@maryvivianprince]

I found one of those in a trash bag a few days ago, also found a Hamilton Railway Special and a Ball Commercial.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Htf? And in what condition?

[@maryvivianprince]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches good condition, they all work.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Wow, what a great find 🤯 huge congrats!

[@maryvivianprince]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches thank you.

[@stoneriverwatches]

Great video. Such an underrated watch. However, a good amount of pie pans came without the 10 sided crown out of the factory

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks for your kind feedback Henry! Are you sure? We thought that later on, in the late sixties and forward, less characterfull, but more useful, crowns replaced the decagonal ones.

[@stoneriverwatches]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches Yes, the later pie pan dials of the 59-61 sometimes came on scalloped crowns. If you look up some old advertisements of connies, it’ll show them without the decagonal crown

[@prilo-Twenty-One]

timeless deéign 👍

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

Very good video. 🌎👍❤

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Mich thanks mate 🙏🙏

[@msbrownbeast]

Are the hour markers tipped with radium?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Yes :)

[@gshen1985]

It’s much better than the nowadays constellation globemaster.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Iam totally with you!

[@DW94576]

Adjusting for inflation, $375 is $3,648.42 today. It certainly wasn't a cheap watch. If you want to talk about great bargains, the new Seiko 5 GMT would have been only $50 in 1963.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Absolutely right! Cheers

[@TheGaztela]

Que maravilla

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

🙏

[@bluebox303]

It's often said that the Constellation was the answer to the Rolex Datejust, but in reality, the Constellation was just a continuation of the Centenary chronometer line in 1948, which was released to celebrate Omega's 100th anniversary. Neither the Centenary or the first Constellations had date windows at first, and neither were intended as competitors to any watch in particular - Simply expressions of Omega's watchmaking prowess and a testament to the chronometric performance of their movements at observatory trials.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Hey there, thanks so much for the Information!! From where do you get it ? Kind regards, Felix

[@bluebox303]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches The members on Omegaforums.net have a lot of information compiled over the years, and there is a website, omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/, that has a lot of information on vintage Constellations.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks kindly for your feedback. I’ll have a look. The broad world of vintage watches… 😅😊

[@drdghattierdc]

I have my fathers 1954 bumper Connie in 18k. Overall runs perfect. Rather own one of these rather than any Rolex

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Agreed! So classic, wear it in honor ♥️

[@ssdc2]

Been following your Instagram for a while, and been doing a lot of window shopping on the site. Great to see some video stuff too. Quick Question, what were the straps and buckles like in the fifties and how did they change over the life of the vintage constellation?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

In the 50s bracelets & buckles are very versatile. There are a lot of variants of steel up to yellow gold bracelets. The vintage models don’t really change. The bracelets started to change in the mid 70s with the first quarz models.

[@christophermahoney4075]

Nice video. I have a PiePan. I believe from the 1960s. I would like to replace the hour, minute and second hands as some not authentic. Where is best place to obtain?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks a million! Unfortunately it is very difficult to find the right hand set out of the right time.. you can call it a mammoth task. You can start your research to ask in different forums (like the Omega forum). Good luck!

[@user-fg4wo9wh1f]

Очень красивые часы. ❤🎉

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

♥️

[@watchnoerd5235]

🔥🔥🔥

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

🔥🙏

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

You explain very well and say everything. From where does come the gold used to make watches? in Switzerland?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks a million! In this case ( like 99%) Switzerland indeed!

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

I personnaly hate social networks because I am eremite. I only use KZbin. To me KZbin is not social network. Write one e-mail to the 🌎 contact you on your KZbin channel. Thank you very much. 🌎👍❤ People have questions and ideas..

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches Switzerland has mines of gold? Money they have and the best watches too.

[@HHIto]

Did the ‘Constellation’ also have some (marketing?) to the Lockheed Constellation & their pilots (I recall seeing magazine ads depicting the watch with Constellation Pilots/cockpit)?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

We never seeing any advertisements in combination with the lockheed constellation. Please let us know if you find anything :-)

[@alexpegler465]

Is there a more visually arresting watch than the pie pan in the history of the world?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

I don’t think so Alex!

[@tucctucc6214]

Where can you find one of these to buy?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

On our website :)

[@paulsutphin6703]

Perhaps I misunderstood, but did you say the watch was from 1936?? Did you mean 1963? Think I obsess about classic Omega as much as you do! I have a gold Constellation from the same era, but with the arrowhead markers, and love it on many levels. Lovely patina and keeps perfect time after an Omega factory service.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

It’s possible a made a mistake there 😅

[@racing7782]

hi! Awesome video. Quick question, what is the visual difference between a ref ck14902 and ref 168.005. By the way. My grandad had exactly the same model that you show in the video. What reference is that one?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Hi, thanks a bunch for your feedback! You can find all details to this Connie here: goldammer.me/collections/sold/products/omega-constellation-14k Unfortunately i can’t tell you the difference right know

[@racing7782]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches thanks!

[@racing7782]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches I think i found the difference. so on another video from omegaenthusiast CK14902 is the first generation of doglegged pie pan with date window and 168.005 is the second generation BUT i noticed that in the former (14902) the 3,6 and 9 hour markers has double bars whereas in the 168.005 it has single bars as the other hour markers...

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

One could write a doctoral thesis about the constellation 😅 thanks for sharing!

[@largo303]

Mine has the word Calender printed above the six hour mark between the star and the word Constellation. The date window seems to be the same. What is the difference to your piece?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Did you already date your watch? It has to be a Different/ older caliber

[@swardgaming2747]

Lovely information ,i have same watch steel case but not have strap. Please."Goldammar vintage" tell me watch price, Thank you.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Mich thanks, we’re glad you enjoy our content! Unfortunately this Connie is sold already. You can find all prices in the „sold“ collection on our website. Cheers

[@bloodyslash]

great watch, great shirt! where did you get it? (*from Germany as well)

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

The shirt or the watch ? 😅☝️

[@bloodyslash]

@@GoldammerVintageWatches The Shirt. I do have an Omega Constellation that needs a fitting shirt :D Greetings from Braunschweig, Germany

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Haaa dann kannst du ja auch deutsch :D das Hemd habe ich von meinem Opa geschenkt bekommen und er hat es in den 70ern in Indien geschenkt bekommen. Ist Wildleder :-)

[@gcsd6158]

How much omega gold 🇨🇭🌍🇮🇶💪🙂👍روووووووووووعة

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Heavy piece 😀

[@batmanisreal929]

Where can I buy this?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

On our website ;)

[@thewristwatchvlogger]

Some says that the name derrived from the Lockheed constellation aircraft

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Indeed but we can’t find any official sources for that statement

[@dash_vet]

Love the German accent

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Im glad you do 😅😂

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

I ❤ only God.🙏.

[@matthieudepallares]

So the constellation Pie Pan was design by Gerald Genta right ?

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

No not the pie pan. While it hasn’t ever been confirmed, it is widely believed and accepted that it was Gerald Genta who designed the C-shaped constellation of the 70s.

[@bilalmugal1364]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

♥️🙌

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@muhammadumarjan6864]

🍅🍅🍅

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

🍎

[@robensur3596]

Wrong, constellation derives its name from the Constellation airplane.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Source? 😄

[@dancezar6049]

Go today and buy an Omega brand new, the latest one with 3000$ …

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Enjoy!!

[@grahamkennedy480]

Marlon Brando???

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

?

[@joaoalbertodosanjosgomes1536]

He is dead yet.

[@user-pq8xp8ko5q]

Да подарите мне уже наконец то хорошее часы, я вас в первый и последний раз прошу... иначе пожалеете 🥴

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Ill regret nothing 😃

[@eugenebabitchev9549]

Из Украины, страны-попрошайки? Не выйдет! Тут треба ГРОШИ!💰💰

[@andreagiannelli6262]

...again another mesmerizing presentation of a classic. You should be banned from KZbin, I am literally hypnotized. And the comparative analysis of prices in different times I find it very interesting too. In my arrogant opinion the Omega Constellation puts in shade the Rolex Datejust, especially this pie pan version. Stunning . Compliments again.

[@GoldammerVintageWatches]

Thanks sooo much Andrea! Unfortunately it’s very difficult to find any information about the prices for watches, back in the day. So we can’t share this point in every video. Indeed , the pie pan killin it ☺️🖖