Love it. Written with fine touch and presented with a sensitive eye. The performances are flawless, especially the lead. Now this is what filmmaking is about.
@frankjudepi7 ай бұрын
Good Lord, I felt every minute of this film. I recently left a telephone customer service job after 14 years because I developed Spasmodic Dysphonia. It was probably brought on by the constant stress. I never connected with a film this much in my life. Very well written and great acting.
@The_Beast_6667 ай бұрын
God bless
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your work!
@TiffanyTrainer7 ай бұрын
Sending you love and solidarity. Thanks for the watch!
@frankjudepi7 ай бұрын
Thanks! It was my pleasure, you were great.
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! I’m glad you connected to it. We all need to be a little kinder to nice people trying to do their job. I hope you have gotten your moment where you get to the beach and feel some relief!
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
Hey everybody! I’m Cory and I’m the writer, co-director and I play the date in this film. Thank you for watching, liking and engaging in the comments. We loved making this short and it’s very fun to share it with all of you!
@estephaniap90277 ай бұрын
Great job!
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
That was you?? That's hillarious, because you seem to be the opposite of what the character is. How did you meet the actresses? I ask, because I see that you used them in the other film on Omeleto: "When This All Ends"? You 3 must get along well. By the way, I was cheering for your character when I watched this film.
@SB-tp2jv7 ай бұрын
What is the moral of the film ?
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
@@SB-tp2jvI would say the moral to me is don’t let capitalism crush your soul. And find the little things in life that make life worth living.
@SB-tp2jv7 ай бұрын
@@cstoneb1234 thanks. 🙂
@user-by5hq1ow1k7 ай бұрын
This is a great representation of how struggles of everyday life eat away at our mental and physical health. If you are struggling, listen to your heart and seek help. There are so many avenues to explore, even when you feel all is hopeless.
@estelalopez54837 ай бұрын
Thank you for stating that 😢
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
I think that it's better to say that she is being toxic. If I were that date, then I would have loved to hear her out on what is going on with her skin. I am currently dealing with my own skin problems [about 4 or more; using hydrogen peroxide very cautiously], and my body is improving. I would have loved to help her through. There is nothing systemic or oppressive here. I agree about getting help. Do it. There are lots of KZbin videos for safe suggestions for the vast majority of us. I loved the prodcution quality of the film. I just hated the story.
@PaulaStreet7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your understanding comment :)
@lordrobert123 ай бұрын
The only answer is to force these companies to pay more!!! Stop outsourcing!! Make unionizing easier!!
@spartandodge60347 ай бұрын
This is an accurate emotional expression of the service industry. When we call in to complain about a product, we need to be clear it is not a personal liability of the operator that answers the phone. They are doing their job to handle your call, not who is responsible for your own personal hell. Be kind.
@durasaxon51317 ай бұрын
I'm always polite. I know that there are those who truly cross the line and aware/ abusive. _____
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
I agree with both of you. Phone people, plese bear in mind, that sometimes we might be speaking with a bit of an edge on our tone, but that might be because we are desperately turning to you for help, and not blaming you. Thanks for your patience, phone people! I always try to be polite.
@crystalvera95607 ай бұрын
I always treat them with kindness bc I know they have a difficult job dealing with ppl that can be disrespectful & rude. And it’s not their fault that there’s a problem with the merchandise u ordered. If there’s a survey at the end I always mention how great they were helping me with my issue.
@PaulClarkTech7 ай бұрын
Never worked in customer service but I'm always explicit if I'm upset that I'm NOT upset at them and I know they're trying to help me out. I try to make it clear that I'm frustrated at the company/product/situation and not them.
@patriciabarton63737 ай бұрын
So true, such a good reminder. Thank you.
@LightoftheWorld87 ай бұрын
Beautifully, beautifully executed! What an accurate depiction of what it’s like working in customer care. I’ve worked in customer care for a decade+ and the emotional/mental abuse is rampant. There are various factors as to why this has been and still is the case, based on my experience: 1) company culture (e.g. does your company truly care for your wellbeing? Or just the customers aka bottom line?) 2) societal culture (e.g. Western culture, especially in the USA have created a toxic environment for everyone which enables, rewards, and perpetuates abuse in order to get what you want. Collaboration is valued much less, if at all, when in reality it’s the fabric that propels us as occupants of the same planet.) 3) speaking up for oneself is sanctioned through retaliation, further abuse, etc. therefore it creates a culture of walking on eggshells. One of my goals as I’m building my own brands and companies is to advocate for employee wellbeing, especially in the customer care wheelhouse. If a customer has the audacity to abuse any of my employees the customer will be the first to go. Period.
@alexandre5887 ай бұрын
I like movies that showcase the struggles of everyday people, nice video.
@JordanSommerlad7 ай бұрын
Hey there! Along with Cory I was a director on this film, as well as the DP, editor and composer. Thanks for watching!
@pedrojuliancereceda83016 ай бұрын
To be honest, Jordan, since I found "OMELETO" other platforms are very underneath in the ranking of my watching preferences.
@SummerSunB6 ай бұрын
I loved this!!!!!!! Really, a fantasticly well done job! 💣💥💯
@godofmath10393 ай бұрын
Your film _When This All Ends_ (2021) is among my favorite short films
@poppylove3673Ай бұрын
Good film! 🎥 ♥️👍🏽
@Kozli19857 ай бұрын
It's not just customer service, more or less every job you have to deal with bad people, bosses, coworkers etc. It's relatable for most of us.
@videt74596 ай бұрын
Capitalism is killing you all.
@volvelin79657 ай бұрын
It's definitely not a pleasant job. I was pregnant while working in customer service and everytime I heard somebody yelling at me or annoying me I simply hang up on them cause I didn't want to hold bad emotions. I don't know how I didn't get fired but I happily left the job after maternity was over.
@olywolle7 ай бұрын
A wonderful film, thank you for your work! I like the idea of making a skin desease that is getting worse and worse, a symbol for the ever growing ulcer of impatience, intolerance, hostility in our society.
@rgarlinyc7 ай бұрын
Very well crafted and acted throughout. The toxicity of having to tolerate and support the entitled in consumer society...
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
Thank you!! We knew people would relate to the world of customer service.
@ewnetubelete82417 ай бұрын
How true this story reflects the reality of this profession.
@ladyg77966 ай бұрын
I totally related to this video. I break out in hives and a painful rash when I’m under prolonged stress, then just as miraculously, they disappear when the stress abates. Very powerful reminder how the body will give you all the signs to let you know you are abusing it, even when you think you are handling the situation.
@CatherineDover3 ай бұрын
Exactly the same here, when I surpress things it comes out on my skin. Not worth it.
@karenkarsseboom35522 ай бұрын
Loved this. So true. Stress can really do a number on you. Ten years ago my husband died, I moved in to take care of my mom who was starting with dementia plus working. I developed many health problems from all of that. We finally had to put mom in assisted living, I moved back to my house and my friend bought me a cat for my birthday after all of that. My symptoms finally got better and finally went away. I try to treat customer service reps with respect because I know people are not always nice. Thank you for such a great film.
@indeed19657 ай бұрын
Im a nurse and i deal with people at their worse. Like others have written, please be kind to those who have to take care of your needs.
@MisterG23237 ай бұрын
I hope Florence got the help she needs. Great short, kudos!
@DaveKraft17 ай бұрын
The World often forgets/ignores that they are "servERS", not "serVANTS." This was particularly the case during COVID, where folks like this literally were putting their lives on the line to bring us all the crap that we "need." Thanks for making this film, and honoring these underappreciated folks!
@fadingfrost2617Ай бұрын
Funny you put it that way...I was waitressing at a small diner in a small town during 2022. I had a lady call in an order for take-out, which the customers are expected to come inside to pay and pickup.This lady told me she just had an operation and asked if I'd bring her ticket and food out to her. I sympathized, even though it was rush hour and raining, I agreed. When I got out to her I not only found that she wasn't alone, had a perfectly able companion sitting shot-gun, but she also thought to have me return with her receipt as she informed me that she had covid! Not only did I neglect my Sat tables, lost another, but she had manipulated me in order to put myself and possibly EVERYONE in the restaurant at risk! To top it off, I don't remember if she tipped me $2 or not at all! Needless to say, I wasn't in any way kind to her when I went back to give her the final receipt. I told her, as professionally as possible, while seething, I admit, how I certainly didn't appreciate her lying to me about her condition and that I would have never agreed to purposely expose myself, particularly while serving food, to covid or any other containgent. She began to invalidate me point, so I just walked away. I still can't believe her attitude of entitlement and disconnect! This lady was middle aged too!
@CM_Solnero2 ай бұрын
This short was very thought-provoking. Whenever speaking to customer service the reality never seems to set in that you're speaking with a real person with real-life issues. There is a distance or separation from reality. Almost as if you're speaking with an automaton. This was a nice awareness film. Well made and kudos to all on an excellent job.
@mirandalewis33927 ай бұрын
I felt every inch of this movie. Very well made.
@gemi11647 ай бұрын
What a gem! Stunning!
@neurocosm7 ай бұрын
This is one huge 14 minute metaphor right here. Very good.
@HopefulMathGirl7 ай бұрын
I just started watching the movie, I missed her, the other actress and the director so much. They were in the short film "When this all ends". It's so nice to see her again, let's see who else is in the movie. Edit: Alright, it's all of them again haha, so glad :)
@12thDecember7 ай бұрын
And _this_ is why I'm always courteous to customer service reps. They are there to assist us in finding solutions, not to be our personal verbal punching bag. Florence is such a lovely name; I wish it hadn't gone out of style. I hope she recovers and makes a happy life, now that she's standing up for herself. Go Florence! ♥
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
We are all rooting for Florence!
@doronron73236 ай бұрын
Been there, done that. Just had to. The best thing I ever did. Life changed A LOT, no less difficult but more on my terms. Retired now and content.
@conniehanses7 ай бұрын
SO relatable to everyone at some point.... This is very well done, everyone. Thank you 💙 🌎
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@SuperCHERISHED6 ай бұрын
The true character of an individual is revealed when they call customer care/service. How many people would want their recorded conversation shared revealing inappropriate communication with customer care employee. I truly appreciated this short film. The character Florence needs help asap! I thought the man she went on a date was nice . Everyone is looking for love and validation.😊
@HookBeak_667 ай бұрын
Anyone who suffers from a skin complaint I can certainly empathise with you. I've had psoriasis for 37 years it's only now I'm starting to see some real improvement. People often judge others by their looks, with a skin problem whatever that might be, it only serves to magnify their opinions of you. Not that they would tell you face to face, unless you're still at school, then their comments might be scathing. I could really relate to the main character's anguish & despair. This was an excellent presentation, well done to all involved.
@Gooeybrowniebaby5 ай бұрын
This very much encapsulates the phenomenon of the burnout pandemic. well done!
@rociomiranda56846 ай бұрын
Great story, great film. Tiffany Trainer is a wonderful actress. Way better than many feature films out there.
@ddawson1007 ай бұрын
So, so, so well done. Thanks, Jordan, Cory, Tiffany and the whole team for an amazing (depressing!) but such a moving film. My first jobs were as a waiter, cashier in a big box store, and grocery store. I've had lots of opportunities to experience rude and abusive customers but that said, I still think that that everyone should work in customer service during their formative years because it'll teach you invaluable lessons about people and how to respond and ask for help when you need it.
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@rosasalvati90557 ай бұрын
Complimenti a tutto e tutti, all'attrice in particolare. Brava!
@EmceePandeyAnchor7 ай бұрын
Always be polite with customer care executives!
@Morbius19637 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Brilliant casting. Shades of "The Singing Detective" with Michael Gambon.
@ChilliCheezdog7 ай бұрын
You're showing your age 😂
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@Morbius19637 ай бұрын
@@ChilliCheezdog Actually I'm 18. I rented on DVD. (You're right, septuagenarian, but you knew it too!)
@stephencarroll2307 ай бұрын
That was the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen on television - in 1988!
@homayounsolaimani88567 ай бұрын
Florence’ exterior condition is a manifestation of the external forces and abuse she’s endured just so she can have a life at its bare minimum. scape is only a temporary solution like a bandaid on a cancer. return to a hell hole is inevitable. after all, we are destined to deal with a human made system!…Florence’ exterior condition is a manifestation of the external forces and abuse she’s endured just so she can have a life at its bare minimum. scape is only a temporary solution like a bandaid on a cancer. return to a hell hole is inevitable. after all, we are destined to deal with a human made system!!! Powerful short
@daemonbelphegor98496 ай бұрын
i have been working on a call center for years now and that first call that is shown here is so accurate it hurts.
@becsterbrisbane62756 ай бұрын
And it's always the 1st call of the day :(- I've learned to drag them kicking & screaming to my happy place!
@glorialuciazapata-elias26597 ай бұрын
This is the anxiety I am currently experiencing while still going to work. I’m a cleaning lady and I informed my husband he is not to come home until he finds his father, whom can no longer live on his own, a caregiver. Meanwhile, I have 3 jobs to keep running, farm animals to feed, let out, water, and then put back to bed, cook for myself, clean the house, pay the bills, ensure the home is taken care of and I’m unable to breathe sometimes that I find myself running out of breath and inhaling large gulps of air. I love my husband and father in law but he needs to hurry and get him over to our home so my husband can continue being a part of my life!
@HookBeak_667 ай бұрын
It's no wonder you have anxiety with so much to contend with, is there anyone else professional or otherwise that you can discuss this with. A problem shared may lighten the load, on how to tackle this situation. Try & stay positive, I hope things get better for you soon.
@bowtieprofessor21826 ай бұрын
Cory did did such an excellent job in this film. The Bowtie Professor!
@HopefulMathGirl7 ай бұрын
This movie was captivating, cathartic but the ending was unsatisfying. Tiffany acted so well in a sad serious character, this is totally opposite of what she played in the other movie "When this all ends", this is also in Omeleto and is really enjoyable, hopeful, inspiring and light. Lizzy too is playing an opposite character type. I really appreciate their acting. Director Cory is great too.
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks for sharing the observation. Would you please mention that "When This All Ends" is on the Omeleto channel, too? I think that it would be great to let people go back and watch it.
@HopefulMathGirl7 ай бұрын
@@eugenetswong Sure, I'd like to support a movie that I love.
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
@@HopefulMathGirl Great. It's great to see actors cast and crew show us more of themselves. Disclaimer: I'm just an audience member.
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
@@HopefulMathGirl 😞What was uncool? I just wanted them to get more promotion. I was just trying to support them.
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
@@HopefulMathGirl I wanted people to see the Omeleto information right away. If they didn't click to see my comment, then they could at least see it in your comment. Why are you unhappy? I thought that you liked it at first. I am practising writing. I try every day.
@scottjohnson64557 ай бұрын
Wow. This was a 10 out of 10. Most people have had soul destroying jobs. I still have recurring dreams of a job I had 30 years ago. In the dream I have to re-accept the same job I had and have to take orders from 20 year olds. Suicide should follow but most times I wake up.
@gnagyusa7 ай бұрын
I always try to be kind to customer reps on the phone. Too many folks forget that they are people too, often going through things.
@Dayvit787 ай бұрын
I'll be kind of they're American. But if it's just some low cost outsourcing way to dump responsibility on the customer, then no.
@dollingeneral74827 ай бұрын
And some of them seem to forget that alot of us human beings are also going through stuff. So they also need to learn to be kind towards everybody they come in contact w/ as well. Just because you watched this does not make every single customer care person the exact same. Some of those people have bad attitudes as well. Be kind goes All ways! She'll be alright 😂❤
@TomoyoTatar7 ай бұрын
DO NOT GIVE PEOPLE YOUR STAPLER...HAVE WE LEARNED ANYTHING PEOPLE?!
@quokka_117 ай бұрын
Kind of amazing, totally unhinged. 👍🏼
@motherwolfe8887 ай бұрын
I'm feeling very Florence right now :')
@glen72287 ай бұрын
Oh man, oh man, oh man, raise your hand if you can relate. In my head her story continues with her quitting her job and going to Thailand with Bennett's roommate, where she finds a new perspective on her life and becomes a very successful street artist, which in turn makes her rich and famous.
@TiffanyTrainer7 ай бұрын
This is exactly the future Florence deserves 🥹
@cherylrobinson5177 ай бұрын
Whoa! Great film😮
@LindaHicks-vk8yi6 ай бұрын
This is so clever, realistic, and just wished the ending could have shown florence with her man living it up somewhere on the ocean, in a big boat etcetc.I will be watching out for another one of these shorts thanks
@TiffanyTrainer6 ай бұрын
No boat in the budget this time 😅-but I love this life for Florence!
@saurabhkashyap68317 ай бұрын
Omg it was so real. But atleast it was not outbound. Never thought inbound process is equally torturing.
@becsterbrisbane62756 ай бұрын
Can be.......BEG to get some back office time!!
@gamegunter7 ай бұрын
Omeleto, Wow! This video was awesome!
@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf7 ай бұрын
This is a powerful film. Great job by all. The only thing that threw me off a bit is the font of the title. It implies fun and excitement to me - clearly not the case! Disclaimer: I know nothing about acting or movie-making; I'm just a fan.
@theoriginalhippychic7 ай бұрын
Great job!
@CatherineDover3 ай бұрын
At last, one I can understand, thank you. X
@fk18567 ай бұрын
I didn't think it was a rash through the whole film. I thought she was hurting herself because of previous trauma.
@therealJamieJoy7 ай бұрын
Or current trauma! Internalizing the customer abuse, but hurting herself unconsciously.
@johnbowman10767 ай бұрын
OMG !!! Watching this just a couple of days before taxes are due. I wasn't very nice to the Medicare rep who couldn't help me get a form. I hope she's not heading to the beach. .... and.... that's some intense stuff.
@tricialynn27623 ай бұрын
So good.
@flightographistАй бұрын
I see what you all did, the beach flashes where mindblowing exposures...so extremely well exposed, not surprising for camera x.
@charlyhop6 ай бұрын
Well done ❤❤❤ great to watch
@staceywebber88087 ай бұрын
Such a great representation of what life throws at us, i felt the emotion in this film i even imagined how much that rash hurts, we may be rich in money or rich in love we may be emotionally fine or falling apart, we are all human an need to feel wanted loved missed cared for an if your not receiving those feelings you can feel so alone so undervalued, everyone just wants wants wants 😢 I'm like florence when everything is getting on top of you take yourself to the beach sit on the sand close your eyes listen to the waves breath in that salty sea air an let it all go ❤
@TiffanyTrainer7 ай бұрын
🧘♀️🌊
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
Everyone needs to run into the ocean sometimes! 😀
@taunja79156 ай бұрын
Salt water is good for the skin. The Dead Sea water is really healing.
@jburnett707116 күн бұрын
Great film, so true and accurate. I’ve done this 😢 people are hard to deal with ❤
@Vivalarosa457 ай бұрын
She's probably suffering from Rosacea.
@cleliaparnell87437 ай бұрын
Looks like when I get hives😢
@TurtleWhisperer86 ай бұрын
Im in customer service, i do okay! My co worker doesnt.. but i think we will both feel this
@micknordstrom25917 ай бұрын
Yes, we are trapped in an evil system!
@nithingeorge6 ай бұрын
This Short film was fantastic and well-acted by Tiffany Trainer, who needs to work on more significant projects; extremely talented and committed to the role.
@TiffanyTrainer6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! And for anyone looking for an actor on more significant projects-PUT ME IN COACH! 😂
@nithingeorge6 ай бұрын
@@TiffanyTrainer All the best for your future endeavors. 🤝🫡
@durasaxon51317 ай бұрын
This was shocking. Something terrible was happening to her physically and mentally. She was aware of it, too. I did get involved with the character and cared. That is the hallmark of a good drama. Well done mini-film. N.Y.C. is a stressful place as it is. Big question? How was she able to afford her NYC Apt and car on a Cust. Service Rep. salary? That in itself has its own built in stresses. I would have paid for her Dr's appt. concerning her rash. Great story. _____ ✝️ _____
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
Were you writing a poem?
@pancakesyo7 ай бұрын
What a weird way to comment. Yuk.
@Dayvit787 ай бұрын
I don't think there are any call centers in New York.
@therealJamieJoy7 ай бұрын
Maybe she was in New Jersey? maybe she had three room mates? people make due somehow.
@damedavidfrith557 ай бұрын
❤ it 😊
@SeanCruser6 ай бұрын
love this film and creative team 🙂🤟
@cgsschaefer7 ай бұрын
You should not be allowed to do such a call center job for more then 2 years
@geraldcollins-uf6be5 ай бұрын
She's so cute.
@johnnyroadcrew38417 ай бұрын
Tiff Trainer sold it .. .. ..
@TiffanyTrainer7 ай бұрын
Hey thanks :)
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
She’s pretty talented! 😏
@odd0odium4 ай бұрын
her date was nice
@becsterbrisbane62756 ай бұрын
As someone who works in a contact centre I feel very, very triggered by this.......
@maryburrell39482 ай бұрын
I sympathize with Florence and she has a nice date.
@zenpanda2527 күн бұрын
I have to work in about 3 hours . I feel like I'm going to my own execution.
@Joepage696 ай бұрын
Dude invited himself out.
@sticksbass7 ай бұрын
very interesting
@stephencarroll2307 ай бұрын
Well…that was depressing!
@JovanGaluit-vy5hr7 ай бұрын
No story.
@P1NkLoVe885 ай бұрын
Story of my life
@salsa47317 ай бұрын
Did she get cured?
@cstoneb12347 ай бұрын
We like to think she now can stand up to people better and I think she’s probably seeing a dermatologist.
@Jo-yp8wy6 ай бұрын
Aaaand nearly everyone here is talking about themselves.
@jdtravels51404 ай бұрын
Wow. Utterly depressing.
@lordrobert123 ай бұрын
These Dan corporations DO NOT care!! Force them to pay more!! This kind of job is easily worth $6000 per year!!
@bub7777 ай бұрын
.................this is fine.
@terryoquinn819913 күн бұрын
Florence , you seem like a very gentle , kind and loving soul but you definitely need to get that checked out girlfriend !
@lilzay43417 ай бұрын
Oh ok
@bjb75876 ай бұрын
Capitalism - 1 Florence - 0
@clasencoach6 ай бұрын
Again no subtitles. What does she actually say at 3:10?
@cstoneb12346 ай бұрын
I’ve been dying to try Shukette (it’s a nyc restaurant)
@catweasle57377 ай бұрын
Ohhhhhh....kaaaaaaayyy.
@cathy167924 күн бұрын
Robert Moses
@TiffanyTrainer24 күн бұрын
Close. Jones!
@Sleeperknot4 ай бұрын
I hate these 'symbolic' portrayals in these short films
@Lync11117 ай бұрын
He judged hee way to quick. He said first date right? Well there are things we should never do on first dates or else! Again if he meant what he said he would have offered to help get her help. Lord knows what would've happened if she gave him some honey dew yes honey dew!
@eddenoy3217 ай бұрын
Don't think he would have gone ahead with that skin. He was afraid.
@Lync11117 ай бұрын
@@eddenoy321 yes but why lead into a kiss and you have no idea who's she's been with. The saying is just because we can do not mean we should, hence his slippery hand crawling up to grab her pumpkin. If he taking his to get to know her maybe she would have opened up to him about her hangup. First date tour hand and tongue, OK some of us know better and others do it because they want to get too the pot of gold before its time 2
@eugenetswong7 ай бұрын
@@Lync1111 They both seem like nice people. He should have tried to help her through her medical condition. She should have let him. That's all there is to it. Obviously there are other diseases, but those aren't relevant to this episode.
@mhammer56 ай бұрын
Corey is a mover.
@aniruddhalimaye26167 ай бұрын
I am thinking to stop watching these videos .
@Prizzy9996 ай бұрын
I worked in customer servive too many years ago but I never let total strangers on the phone ruin my life, and Florence picking up the call after 5 o'clock? Not a chance with me. I stopped taking calls 5 minutes before leaving time, as I wasn't gonna be paid for overtime. I was very good at my job and often got bonuses, but my managers wanted me to be more empathetic and involved with clients. Nah, don't think so.