Omicron in Mid-December: What Have We Learned and What Does it Mean?

[@le_th_]

To all of you in healthcare, no matter your roles, thank you SO MUCH for all you do everyday. I can only imagine how physically exhausted and emotionally fatigued you must be right night, only to have this fourth wave arrive when you have given all you had to give already, and you need a break. Please know how much we appreciate you. We don't get to tell you enough, but we cannot thank you enough for hanging in there and continuing to fight the good fight. Many of us are doing are best to protect ourselves and others, and I can only imagine how discouraging, if not dismaying (?), it must be to see so many Americans and people in other cities around the world acting as if this pandemic is over. I certainly know how I feel, and my job does not include caring for people when they're ill. Thank you for continuing to educate others, despite the number of hours you've been working, week after week, month after month, for the last two years. The pandemic of 1918-1920 had 4 waves of which we have an historic record, so let's HOPE that this fourth wave will be our last before CoV2 becomes endemic.

[@chrisdafarthestlight1839]

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[@01mustang05]

Disgusting and delusional, your contempt for child abuses these people and you let and cause to continue! I understand you're all abused and damaged but I'm sick of you people acting insane, unreasonable, and illogical!

[@glo8778]

You are brainwashed

[@01mustang05]

@@glo8778 All of humanity has been brainwashed. Please did deeper into where humanity goes wrong and why. Innocent and helpless children need help from being harmed by an overwhelming amount of people that show they don't believe that they are harming them.

[@bchollis1451]

@@01mustang05 To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine

[@KitRedmond1]

Appreciate the informed appraisal of the situation. Also appreciate the advice. Thank you for taking the time when you all have been working so hard the past two years to get the global community through this pandemic.

[@chadbock6369]

Not One Comment on Vitamin D3 and how important it is in preventive of severe infection, hospitalization and death! No comments on Regeneron? All of these Doctors failed miserably in my option!

[@gigstrail7180]

Absolutely.... Vaccine biased.

[@BBee-e8b]

Big pharma wont make money then!

[@triholl]

I agree. They sound terribly cautious and scared. I've traveled & done everything, almost with no mask. I did get vaccines but won't get booster. I have vit D level checked & it's quite high. Vitamins, eat well, exercise...almost 67 and no fear(a big risk factor is fear/anxiety) Really tired of all this! Of course NO talk of Ivermectin which has had great success(with other med as cocktail.) They are very mainstream-fear

[@darkpoet4063]

That’s because they are the mouthpiece of the greedy and corrupt pharmaceutical aka politicians

[@mboiko]

Excellent presentation. This situation is so dynamic and evolving with such great speed it's tough to stay up to date.

[@mboiko]

@Websiteguy 2 ...on you.

[@dave18478]

Really fine conversation (especially wait for the discussion segment). You know.......I've been listening/reading to numerous other resources, and all too often, the many "commonsense" questions really don't get addressed on a regular basis. These folks readily delve into such issues..in a very "human" fashion. Great job folks - I learned a lot. Thank you.

[@Hippiekinkster]

Try "This Week in Virology" with Professor Vincent Racianello of Columbia U. He's been a Virologist for over 40 years.

[@paulransom5530]

They explain that the symptoms are mild and then spend the rest of their time plying the vaccines. As a South African I find this thinking absurd.

[@briancase6180]

Wow, another terrific grand rounds. So informative and riveting. The pace of information delivery keeps me focused. Thanks!

[@Kryptospotted]

This is an excellent resource for both medical professionals and the general public alike. Thanks for providing this.

[@kw7807]

The entire series has been informative during the entire pandemic-highly recommended.

[@johndoe09876]

I think we need to emphasize looking closely for a faint line on the rapid flow tests. It can be hard to notice a faint line, but it can signal the opening of the phase where someone is capable of spreading the virus. I think many people will mistakenly think if it's barely noticable they're ok when in reality isolating at that exact moment would have the greatest benefit to limiting onward transmission.

[@thankmelater1254]

Someone should do a quick and dirty survey of test and the readings to get a handle on the frequency of missed signal.

[@BellaMarsilioRN]

@@thankmelater1254 LOL! Great handles you guys! (Kryptospotted & John Doe)

[@julierandall7020]

I am happy to do the necessary. I certainly would do a Lateral Flow or any rapid test before meeting a vulnerable person. I don't mind wearing a mask either. Just be sensible.

[@sarakhaldi5085]

If ppl were like you, we wouldn’t have a pandemic. I watched my neighbors gr granddaughter because I felt bad for her mom, her husband had taken an ambulance earlier that day (for a “cold he got from the granddaughter”), refused to get tested, now I just tested positive on a home test twice. Aren’t ppl so mean and selfish? I will NEVER babysit for ANYONE again!!! My diabetic fully vaccinated dad is now at risk along with the rest of my family. I have no faith in humanity anymore.

[@annemiller4047]

What a great informative in real time, accurate resource with the best of the best experts! I look forward to learning more when your series resumes on January 6th! Thank You for always working so hard!

[@onetwothreeabc]

24:58 We now know Omicron is mild for "college campus" population. Yet we (e.g. Emory) force college kids to get the booster, while we don't force nursing home residents to be boosted. Why?

[@corazoncubano5372]

@@gferraro8353 Seems like the congregate living places didn't learn from the first Covid19 go round when large swaths of their vulnerable population lost their lives. Seems like they are behind the ball again.

[@glenng725]

To be clear. At the Oslo party. They «said» they took tests before. There is NO mandate to test nor did one have to show results. Not all of the guests were vaccinated. Though most of them were. As of today none have been deemed serious or in hospital.

[@robs1714]

The fear being whipped up are not justified - it’s as simple as that. Doesn’t like lung tissue but loves bronchial - upper respiratory at worse

[@kmeades346]

Facts

[@jeffreyriedel]

This is amazing, I love that this information is shared for the public. Thank you for sharing, super interesting for a laymen. I wish the talking heads would watch and listen to these experts.

[@timmackey2896]

We need to follow the UK hospitalization and mortality data extremely closely as we are roughly 3-4 weeks behind them. If (fingers crossed ) the data show a truly marked reduction of say 60-70 or more percent in hospitalization then despite increased transmission we may avoid overtaxing the healthcare system and hopefully move into an endemic situation where every season those most at risk need a booster just like annual flu vaccine. That would be the best Christmas present yet.

[@originalkk882]

The problem with that data is the UK report daily hospitalisation and death data for Covid based on anyone testing positive for the virus (deaths for any reason within 28 days of a postive test). So, as in South Africa, if Omicron is circulating very widely as mild disease, hospitalisations with a positive test, even if not ill, and admitted for something unrelated (remembering we are now entering peak hospital admission season), will be included in the Covid figures. The only data that will make sense will be total hospital admissions, numbers in hospital, and excess deaths. These data sets will not be published daily.

[@timmackey2896]

@@originalkk882 So the data can be manipulate to make it seem worse than it is. Your right, I had heard of that even here in the states, people dying from totally non Covid reason but were incidentally positive just because all admissions are tested and were being included in total deaths due to Covid. Makes one wonder worldwide what the TRUE number of deaths really due to Covid is !

[@Fangfeaster12]

I am unvaxxed but recovered with natural immunity. This term “super immunity” is ridiculous. Either you have immunity or you do not. That’s like saying “super pregnant”. We all have immunity against the flu - taking a flu shot is not necessary unless you’re vulnerable. I’m 37 and healthy. Part of the reason South Africa is doing well is because they are younger & have high natural immunity in the community. How funny that it is NOT vaccine that ended the pandemic instead a less virulent variant. No one wants to take endless boosters, Mother Nature came through and gave us Omicron.

[@lj9524]

Sincerely appreciate your videos to share the most recent observations and clinical literature along with real world experience. The worst thing our politicians have done is to politicize the scientific evidence and public health policy. God help us all with Covid19 virus. Pray for all who work daily to eliminate this virus!

[@Kay-qt2id]

Really informative for a non medical person in Melbourne Australia, thank you

[@maryannrose1329]

I'm wondering why I don't hear anything about the taking of 4-6000 IU of vitamin D and the daily recommend dosage of Zinc, from you guys. Like we are hearing from doctors across the pond? If simply taking vitamins will help give us older population a better chance of surviving this we should be hearing this from you guys.. I welcome your thoughts..

[@richardreddick5681]

IF is big question. Is there any

[@richardreddick5681]

evidence of vitamins helping against covid?

[@beckyrasmussen5715]

@@richardreddick5681 COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis

[@Matowix]

Because its too late for vitamins. They have minimal effect. Just get boosted and eat properly

[@Matowix]

@@richardreddick5681 none.

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

As a layperson, I use all three metrics, case rates, hospitalizations and deaths, to assess my risk.

[@kmeades346]

Hospitalisations are often a misleading indicator due to incidental admissions. O2 requirements, ventilations and deaths are better.

[@lindaaberbom7909]

I am a U. S. citizen who lives in Mexico along with 700,000 U.S expats who still pay taxes in the U. S. and vote. Our situation may be different. We have different vacinnations, and a very mild flu season. Most of our lives are spent outdoors. Could you please address our situation as it is different from people living the contiguous U.S. but who are still citzens.

[@alexdevcamp]

HK did a study on viral replication ex vivo in airway vs lung tissue. 70x greater replication in airways, 10x less replication in lung tissue. This is a way it could cause less severe disease. I'm surprised they said there was no science regarding it.

[@kw7807]

Do you have a link to that study?

[@sherkirkpatrick8060]

I liked that Dr Been just did an overview of the HK study.

[@janyenyo]

I'm sure it can cause severe disease in the metabolically challenged and immune deficient people unfortunately So its a story of viral fitness vs human fitness.

[@bchollis1451]

It was an "ex vivo" study so many cannot give it a lot of credence just as they don't "in vitro" studies

[@hoffman408]

@@bchollis1451 they give credence to anything that fits the mainstream narrative as determined by the pharma mafia. Anything they can't agree with publicly is disregarded or better yet slandered as misinformation.

[@sheilahendrix5935]

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[@scottappleton9259]

Why do they assume misinformation is the only reason to not get vaccinated. What about the studies of myocarditis and pericarditis from the mRNA vaccines. especially in young men

[@alexcara1]

the whole show is biased ... 'Get whatever mrna vaccin you can !" right ...

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

But Dr. del Rio said in the beginning that the monoclonal antibody treatments we have seem to be useless for Omicron, so why not just switch to anti-virals for early stage home treatment, as they can be accessed by patients in the critical, viral-replication stage? Having to wait “several days” to begin treatments with MATs is unlikely to reduce hospitalizations and deaths.

[@TheJoyQueenForever]

My doctor in Florida offers antivirals with Zinc and Z-pack first and MOT after a few days if not better

[@matthartle1142]

Exactly.

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

The GSK monoclonals are working for Omicron infection. But good luck finding them.

[@gustavderkits8433]

Wow! This was very valuable both to help understand and to plan for the near term future.

[@arizonanative7409]

Excellent discussion. I’m not convinced Omicron is milder in the senior population. I’m 67 and while fully vaccinated/boosted I also have an autoimmune disease. I am again trying to stay home.

[@lindaaberbom7909]

Me too.

[@CalsTube]

A virus is a dead thing and can not be caught.. Go to big chute and type in you can't catch a virus..

[@kw7807]

Please stay safe!

[@arizonanative7409]

@@kw7807 Thank you - you as well!

[@vivianoosthuizen8990]

Omicron will be mild in South Africa because a large proportion of the people had the origin strain as well as the beta version so very high natural immunity and they have not had much vaccinated

[@TheJoyQueenForever]

Data shown out of the UK already shows same mild symptoms. Only added symptom was body aches.

[@kmeades346]

Oh I thought the narrative was that prior infection doesn't provide much protection.

[@CalsTube]

Bunch of bs just to take over the world oh you may get a bit sic and chances of dying are almost 0.. It is all because their lies are coming out Go to odysee or big chute and type in you can't catch a virus..

[@dreambrother1240]

In what universe are rapid tests readily available? That aside, I really loved this discussion. Thank you!

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

Just bought a bunch online. Not free. Test at home based on the above guidelines.

[@BellaMarsilioRN]

Learning to live with germ caution and live again #BlessedBeThee

[@debbienewcombe4658]

Many thanks for this update. Very interesting to hear your update, from US, I am in the UK. Please can I have CME verification for records?

[@iashakezula]

Thank you. Love the discussion always

[@wander4evr814]

You need to be discussing ASPIRATIONS during vaccine administering. Many people are getting sick because the jab entered the bloodstream and not the muscle.

[@timneish936]

Excellent presentation and discussion. Really good information, thank you.

[@hoffman408]

India went down fast because they figured out how to treat the disease early.

[@drewbean108]

Omicron is mild like the common cold. Live ur life freely everyone

[@Musicpassion418]

Can they ramp up testing to distinguish between variants in the ER's?

[@pedrosmith221]

I am not a doctor, I live in sunny and laid-back Spain and I also haven't set foot in a restaurant or bar since february 2020. For Christmas, we are going to meet all the family. We are all double vaccinated, my mother had the 3rd Moderna dose and we'll be all taking antigen tests and using a HEPA filter in the room.

[@buffhotchkiss7400]

Thank God for the filter right? Good luck with that.

[@IceDogXena]

HEPA filters cost $1000 , and are used in mycology . What is antigen test? What’s the link to buy HEPA filter?

[@francisesquega525]

Are variants fighting each other for a place in the test tube seems the strong ones just move on and go away

[@corazoncubano5372]

Good luck with that.

[@reid2me2]

this was FANTASTIC. Thank you so much!

[@buzzpedrotti5401]

Am I ever going to be able to go back to Interlaken? I'm having Swissdrawals.

[@aussielen3285]

I’m shocked that not even ONE of you guys mentioned the importance of Vitamins D3, K2. Zinc etc.. Surely doctors worth their salt would be pressing forward with this information?!!

[@Lp78Ch]

These are not doctors. They sell vaccines and booster shots.

[@aussielen3285]

I am open to receiving a protein based vaccine, but I medically cannot accept any of the current vaccines due to the cytotoxic T-cells in the spike protein. I work in waste at a hospital, and over a year ago, a certificate from my doctor under advice from my urologist prohibits me from handling cytotoxic waste bins, so I cannot allow cytotoxins from these available vaccines into my body.

[@karendeflippo7320]

Aussie Lin this is the greatest respondent have heard so far..lol!!

[@julierandall7020]

I really enjoyed this! Thankyou all.

[@bchollis1451]

And how quickly will resistance to Paxlovid anti-viral arise. Maybe given limited availability for quite a while not an issue for a while.

[@heyrobin]

Is there any way to measure omicron’s ability to protect against delta? It would be nice to know if we are headed for a comfortable endemic level of COVID.

[@sharonjonsy9412]

Japan has been flat line in cases for weeks because they're prophylaxing Ivermectin but no doctor here seems to be aware!

[@Lp78Ch]

Well, the media is hiding it. NHK World News mentions "oral medications" being sent to people, but that's the extent of it.

[@guytelfer1353]

How do you get severe and acute and not get hospitalized?

[@guytelfer1353]

@Jessica Rain City , there's 2 different ways to answer that Q Jessica, I was just meaning it can't be called sarscov2 if if doesn't cause severe acute respiratory damage, you can't get the syndrome without disease there's no disease for mild illness. Clearing virus in nasal passage and not destroying tissue or virus not migrating into lungs is not disease it's the precursor to disease and possibly infection, yes viruses do infect cells and it doesn't mean the virus is actively replicating or producing receptors or offspring emitted from a cell

[@guytelfer1353]

@Liutauras Valancius WHT are you saying?

[@guytelfer1353]

Most anyone considered recovered from mild or moderate or asymptomatic does not have sarscov2 or did have, they were exposed to CV19 or cov2, whether it's innate or adaptive with symptoms is a response a reaction is preparation for possible infection like goose bumps , considering asymptomatic spread as a weak variance causing asymptomatic infections only symptoms means innate response from memory

[@guytelfer1353]

Each cell has a gland or an opening whether it's with perforeins or having a mouth

[@georgethomas13]

If poorly ventilated indoor Winter venues like OSLO are such a factor, when will the discussion turn to indoor air purification? Installing UVs inside vents or pointed towards ceilings in public spaces could vastly reduce the "Winter factor".

[@techdesigner9741]

Great idea!!

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

If you and I are are unmasked, you are infectious, and you laugh right in my face in a crowded party, I don't see how mega-ventilation is gonna save me.

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Thanks so much. Some of the doctors’ audio wasn’t very good. Please remind everyone to speak up, and into their microphones.

[@francinalozadanur6339]

Any comments regarding rate of immunization in South Africa, and at risk population in South Africa..

[@heyrobin]

Yes, good question. 20% of SA population has HIV. How does that affect case count?

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

When they interviewed South Africans, asking why they weren’t vaccinated, the always said “it causes COVID disease”, or something very similar, like “it gives you a lot of diseases”. It’s very sad, an accurate message just isn’t getting across.

[@TheJoyQueenForever]

Actually data shows different. Most are not vaccinated because there isn't any vaccine available to get. The world has forgotten Africa🥺

[@kmeades346]

The primary reason why people come up with these conspiracy theories is because they don't trust the government and media. They have good reason not to trust them as they are prolific liars.

[@christopherrobinson7541]

@@TheJoyQueenForever Vaccine is available in country, but getting it into arms is difficult, due to logistic problems, cost and reluctance.

[@stephenscharf6293]

Once again, you guys set a very high bar for quality of scientific content. Is there any way to get copy of Carlos' slides? I'm a molecular biologist who tracks the science daily, and would welcome access to the slides. Cheers and thanks.

[@arielsanpedro1484]

What is your prescribe reccomendations for fully vaccinated 6 monthd below who are not yet capable of having boostrr shot.

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

Mask up, my friend. Everywhere.

[@thanes69]

This has been terrific! Thank you all!

[@scoro8675]

Why is no-one gathering and analyzing the contextual data? You only have to run pearson correlation coefficient and other simple statistical analyses, using WHO/government issued population, OECD/Country and demographic data, to see what , in practice, is working and what's (clearly) not. The level of scientific ineptitude, within the global health and political leadership, is astounding.

[@erikaziesmann4741]

I had the J&J in early April and got the Moderna booster (half dose) November 5. What I heard here suggested that it would be better to disregard the J&J and start over and get 2 mRNA vaccines. What does that mean in my case? Should I get a full dose Moderna or another booster half dose and how long after booster? Or should I get the BioNtech/Pfizer?

[@daniellevounckx5489]

same question for me, but I find no data from the JJ and one booster

[@stevensteve1658]

@@daniellevounckx5489 same situation. i had the JJ in march and a pfizer booster in October. Do I need to get a 2nd pfizer?

[@happycamper3455]

....You could alway rely on your god given immune system that has protected humans for thousands of years...Get covid/recover/now your immune/simple...

[@thankmelater1254]

Where are all the new hospitals being built? There are plenty of vacated properties now. Not really of that much interest, is it?

[@Musicpassion418]

Yes but you guys have the best near instant access to therapeutics & good hospital care so what you decide in your personal life doesn't apply well to typical others

[@forAME11]

I’m a middle school teacher. Kids are crowded again in classrooms, hallways and lunchrooms. Being middle school students, you would be amazed at how much they touch each other, arms around each other, playing around, etc. What would you tell local school boards?

[@Lp78Ch]

If you are freaked out by the children's behavior, get out of the profession.

[@FaceFcuk]

Pray 🙏

[@talega1]

BUT wait: weren't the people in Norway tested the day of the get together and all vaccinated yet they ended with a super spreader event..... Vaccinated or not, previous Delta infection and recuperated, you can still get and spread Omicron. I hope there is a follow up and we hear how these meetings went.

[@Musicpassion418]

If eating outdoors if you are physically in close proximity to someone with covid ---you can absolutely get it!

[@Musicpassion418]

There are very few "trusted messengers" because the vaccines are not in the hands of doctors offices so those conversations mostly aren't happening in the doctor's offices or relationships. Can we get vaccines in doctors offices?? That would increase the vaccine rate.

[@Matowix]

Great coverage.

[@zeevberar1663]

THANKS FROM TEL AVIV

[@vivianoosthuizen8990]

South Africa has better medical treatment than America

[@AlbertFuchs]

Extremely informative. Thanks so much.

[@marypeters1928]

Thank you!

[@joannelefebvre.6327]

Can someone answer this question, I live in Quebec Canada, I have 2 aztrazenica vaccines. At the time aztrazenica was not excepted in the US I was planning to go to the states so I recieved a Pfyser and 30 days later a second Pfyser dose. So am I protected?

[@mariawilson2595]

So you have had 4 shots ? ? Joanne ..if you dont take Vitamin D and Zinc start straight away , if your immune stystem is healthy you will be better protected x

[@milenalm5288]

4 shots in what about 10 months???? ( hint- most new variant infections in the US ,78% are in double and triple vaccinated as it is the same in every other country ). If you don't see what's wrong with this picture then you have lost all critical thinking skills.

[@ozma6918]

J'écouterais pas ces commentaires là si j'étais toi. D'un autre côté, ça dépend pourquoi tu voudrais aller aux US, si j'étais toi je m'abstiendrais à moins d'avoir une ben bonne raison d'y aller. Protégée ou pas.

[@dacooljlynn270]

I'M SPREADING THE WORD, PLZ STAY HOME UNLESS YOU HAVE TO GO OUT FOR ESSENTIALS COVID KILLED MY FRIEND AND SHE WAS VACCINATED HAD HER MEMORIAL YESTERDAY VERY SAD :(

[@triholl]

I'm sorry for your loss. But isolating is also a death sentence. We will all eventually get Covid. The isolation of young people will kill them in so many ways, drug overdoses, suicide....

[@GrandoFromage]

They all look like they're lying.....you can see it in their eyes!

[@mercedescarrion4637]

Most excellent 💗

[@virgiljohnson4260]

he said 2-3 times more contagious than delta. others are saying up to 40x . saying it is as contagious as Measles. nobody seems to have a clue.

[@skinscapetattoo]

I find these doctors terrifying, not one of them mentioned how to all boost our immune systems naturally. These sound like salesmen to me

[@BellaMarsilioRN]

Now, now Tattoo! Tattoo pain sounds "terrifying", lol. This lecture has a lot of important information, vitamin therapy has been in all the talking head podcasts redundantly. All we can do is the best that we can do, in preventing the transfer of germs to others. #LearnToLiveAgain Wash hands frequently with hot soapy lathering, gargle deeply, hydrate with warmed tea (lemon and local honey, yum!), isolate anyone symptomatic increasing Vitamin C supplementation (sick people who go out for necessary treatment wear the mask, and distance 8 or more feet...early treatment for obese, elderly, and the immunocompromised). Practice mindful transcendental meditation, square breathing techniques are calming, circadian rhythm sleep/wake cycles intact as possible. Aim for intake to reflect calories burned. All we can do is "pay attention" respectfully . Hope this helps you, joyfully sent Janie

[@katy9860]

The science out of HK says it replicates in the bronchi rather than the lungs. Things like mouthwash and nasal rise should help take down the viral load.

[@albertoperin402]

Anyone can explain me how you distinguish the benefit from immune escape from the best capacity of transmission gives by the evolution on the increase of cases? To better explain: the incredibile growth of case is gived by the better transmissibility of the virus itself or because the virus can freely circulate through vaccinated people that are not taking other precautions? I am looking into Denmark datas that actually are the better ones in the world and you can notice a big drop of infection in no vax between others variants and Omicron, from 23% to 9%. Why is this? If the variant is more transmissible should not also been in no vax? Thank you

[@thankmelater1254]

Thank you for mentioning that, Alberto Perin. I'm skeptical regarding the opinion-informing basis given, including the 3 weeks timeline to visible results in data from Omicron. Toronto has about 4 million population and 4 people in ICU, there was a reduction this week of about 30% in hospitalization and ICU care.

[@cletusmorraies7564]

What I've learned is there's an over reaction and there is something sinister going on in this world.

[@IceDogXena]

What I learned is trust medical establishment and stop believing in ourselves . Just trust the pros and follow health protocols. People need to stop being involved intellectually with this virus and just do what the experts recommend !

[@feedermonkey7233]

What I've learned is humans don't adapt as well to change as they think they do, there is a real mental illness crisis in this world and average people are paranoid and terrified of smart people. You don't have to understand molecular biology to save yourself or your family as nature gave us brilliant scientists who have already understood that for you. Can you build your own car? From scratch? Do you understand how everything in your car works? Yet you likely drive one and don't fear the "powers that be" that invented them or manufactured them, and if you are suspicious of their decisions in manufacturing it doesn't stop any of you who drive from driving. Maybe you have to drive to take care of your loved ones. This is very similar. Get vaccinated to take care of your loved ones. I did. Moderna. It's fine.

[@mariawilson2595]

@@IceDogXena No ! you must help yourself by taking Vit D & Zinc and go find out how many patients dies as a result of mis use of the ventilators and vaxxing without aspirating ! Always get a 2nd or 3rd opinion !

[@mariawilson2595]

Well done , do what you are told and when you are told !

[@dm1969able]

@@feedermonkey7233 Nature also gives us, common sense, natural immunity, and an ability to know when we're being bamboozled by these "experts" who are the main ones profiting from the lies they tell!

[@guytelfer1353]

So 111 people in Oslo at the restaurant fell ill with sarscov2, severe acute respiratory syndrome? Or they just didn't have the severe or acute part?

[@glenng725]

Reports here in Oslo say no one has been hospitalised from that party.

[@guytelfer1353]

@@glenng725, good idea about the contract tracing in Europe, a good opportunity to view the 111 people in Oslo for 2 weeks voluntarily , sars does not occur until after 2 weeks givin adjuvant and viral load, important to isolate from 5th to 8th day or 9th day maybe longer, because sars is a syndrome this is clearing of debris or recovering and rebuilding, cormobilites extends in the cleanup , exposure incubation time mitosis inoculum all have a part in severity

[@TimZ007]

Omicron is the 4th booster which hopefully has very high protection against all variants.

[@phildurre9492]

omicron is the end of the pandemic i am pretty convinced…

[@buffhotchkiss7400]

Are you serious. Give me a break. Is is the name if this new variant rooted in Latin it Greek. Alpha? Delta?. The variant has no serious health affects yet is more contagious. When will this end. More bs from the academics.

[@buffhotchkiss7400]

Forget about all the deaths from heart disease and cancer.

[@IceDogXena]

@@buffhotchkiss7400 Forget about that idea you just presented

[@user-tv2ug5kz2n]

Cosmic and Covidious War from Allah.. Imam Nasser Mohammed Al-Yamani 07- Jumada I -1443 AH 11-12-2021

[@alltheuseduniverse]

DO NOT eat at an indoor restaurant.

[@kmeades346]

Relax

[@paulthomas2203]

@@kmeades346 Check back in in 3 weeks ;p

[@kmeades346]

@@paulthomas2203 It's been over a month since the start of South Africa's Omicron wave and head of their medical association says Omicron is broadly mild and that the UK is being whooped up into a state of hysteria which is exactly what the media specialises in.

[@user-cz3qr9yt7t]

In other countries I think they send people kits of drugs to be ready if/when they catch covid. We should do that here in the usa, a kit with the drugs and a home testing kit or two. I am high risk and still haven't been able to even get a home test kit.

[@davidjacobs9978]

ivermectin? zinc? Hydroxy Q? no mention? Paul is afraid of diners, but not afraid of damage to heart capillaries from mrna spike protein synthesis? No comment?

[@beachdancer]

The normal booster in the UK is mRNA after the adenovirus vaccines. But the video says this is not the case in America.

[@cherubimcherubim9515]

Two years since the pandemic we have learn nothing. Still booster shots from ineffective vaccines is our only hope.

[@julierandall7020]

I haven't had ONE jab yet.

[@treplay8846]

whats emroy U?

[@mim8312]

We do the bidding of the ultrarich, except as to the CCP: as to China, the ultrarich are angry that the CCP is taking over their businesses because the CCP wants to take over the world after taking over Asia by taking Taiwan to interdict Japanese and South Korean critical oil shipping lanes. Do not forget the Wall Street and financiers who are the close allies of the CCP. They have benefitted from using quasi-slave factories in China for decades, which enabled their tax avoidance. Consider who benefits from this recent inflation, and who are the true control group members of the banksters? A financial commentator named Jeff Booth makes many wise observations and insights. However, he overlooks the facts revealed in an old documentary called “Britain’s Second Empire: The Spider’s Web” which estimated that many years ago there were already at least $55 TRILLION dollars concealed JUST in the tax havens within the British Commonwealth. Is he terrified of offending the ultra-rich who own the world and for whose benefit inflation was created? Why? Because the ultrarich have successfully avoided paying taxes for many decades so government has been funded by money printing which creates inflation and is effectively a tax on our poorer citizens who see their wages decrease in purchasing power while prices for food, etc., rise: read “Elon Musk doesn't get paid, buy stuff or pay taxes like you do” in CNN business. Musk is just a minor example; is he truly the richest man in the world or an agent of one of the trillionaire families? THINK, how many hundreds of TRILLIONS in total do the ultrarich families have concealed all over the world in tax havens, in land in developing countries, in tax trusts in Ireland and similar countries with great tax rules, in companies producing basic goods or raw materials in Africa and South America, etc., etc. Read about the Fugger Family in Wikipedia. Ultra-rich owners of such real assets need not fear inflation: they can pass it through to their customers while it reduces the wages of their oppressed employees and their other debts. Do you think that they or the wealth of the Mafia or the Triads, etc., truly just evaporated like water in their Las Vegas streets? Fat chance. The ultra-rich around the world have been hoarding their vast wealth while avoiding the payment of taxes. They are the people to whom governments around the world owe HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS. The US government is in a quandary now, because fewer people are buying its treasuries. This is because it spent most of its wealth for decades bailing out the banks and other financiers owned by the ultra-rich. Watch a yt commenter named Jake Tran. He perceived part of their financial maze. However, all of those who blame the "Fed" leaders or the ECB presidents, etc., are blaming the hands that defrauded most Americans and most Europeans, not the actors that actually control those hands/agents. Always ask: Qui Bono? Thus, when I hear about tapering, I am curious as to what level of “tapering” will be done. There is a mathematical issue that arises if interest rates are raised too high on rolled over, US treasuries, according to the committee for a responsible federal budget: QUOTE: This year, the federal government will spend $300 billion on interest payments on the national debt. This is the equivalent of nearly 9 percent of all federal revenue collection and over $2,400 per household. … Higher interest rates will mean higher interest payments and deficits. For example, if interest rates were one percentage point higher than projected for all of 2021, interest costs would total $530 billion - more than the cost of Medicaid. If rates were two percentage points higher, interest costs would total $750 billion, which is more than the federal governments spends on defense or Medicare. And at three percentage points higher, interest costs would total $975 billion - almost as much as is spent on Social Security benefits. On a per-household basis, a one percentage point increase in the interest rate would increase costs by $1,805, to $4,210. END QUOTE. Aside from that, the large number of US companies that are over-leveraged and also of investors who purchased shares on margin may cause many companies to become legally insolvent when their interest rates on their rolled over bonds rise. If substantial tapering occurs with consequent raises in interest rates, their shares would also accordingly tank, even if they do not become insolvent: would you be satisfied getting a 2.8% rate of return, holding companies’ bonds if you could get the same return on treasuries? Many investors would have to meet margin calls from brokers which they cannot afford to pay, so more and more shares would be sold to limit losses by those brokers. Hence, the stock market will crash if interest rates are raised. Furthermore, a huge part of the inflation problem is caused by shipping delays and by production issues in the USA’s main supplier, China, whose “zero virus” policy is going to meet its eventual death due to the infectiousness of Omicron. Many companies in the USA and China will thereby fail. Will the frauds and improper accounting practices used by the ultra-rich to defraud pensioners and other innocent Americans be revealed (like Bernie Maddoff’s frauds were revealed by the prior crash despite the SEC’s careful overlooking of reports about them) and prosecuted this time? I have little hope: e.g., despite his many actions, which amounted to a modus operandi, presented at his trial, the court of appeal will apparently give Weinstein a new trial like the connected lawyers allowed another famous, wealthy, nonconsentual, "extreme-dater" to get released. Until we eliminate this kind of corruption, from cronyism in which we have a hierarchy of groups that protect their members and allow them to operate above the law and commit frauds (e.g., Maddoff and the SEC), the USA will not be competitive in many areas with countries that operate in a more united way like Japan or Germany. The ultra-rich will keep ruling us through this cronyism. The parasitic ultra-rich are the biggest burdens on our economies. Now, the bribe taking by judges (and pre-bribes, so that judges get elected by funding from groups and will then have to protect those groups while on the bench) is effectively a corruption tax which all Americans and American productive companies pay, if they are not connected to the most corrupt groups. Corruption among LA judges is now well known, for example, and must be feared by anyone who was harmed and must bring US litigation. Like France before the revolution, we have an entire class of corrupt people that are above the law and do not have to pay taxes (due to the tax loopholes that they created, like the exclusion from income for foreign income, so that companies like “Apple Successfully Avoids $50 Billion in American Taxes” per Gizmodo.) See also "Elon Musk explains his extremely low tax rate" in The Hill. The parasites that run our country successfully avoided paying taxes as was proposed this year. They have avoided paying taxes for DECADES. See "Corporate Tax Avoidance Remains Rampant Under New Tax Law" in itep.org. Of course, it is not just the trillionaire families' companies that engage in billions of dollars in tax avoidance. Their pet billionaires and millionaires do the same things. How long will this continue? Will a stock market crash, when the Federal budget cannot be balanced without substantially increased taxes due to increased interest rates on rolled over treasuries, cause change? We will see. When will Americans stop selecting their leaders from the ultra-corrupt millionaires and billionaires who have avoided or evaded paying taxes (and complying with other laws) for decades? If you select the biggest and most successful crooks to lead you, do not act surprised later on if you find yourself defrauded by them and their cronies.

[@redpillpharmacist]

The symptoms and treatments are markedly different, and the current vaccines do not appear to work well any longer. Should we rename Omicron to be SARS-Co-V-3 or Covid-21?

[@katy9860]

Spo we are concerned about long term less severe Covid but we aren’t concerned about the long term effects of the vax?

[@ld3418]

How can a J&J vaccinated person request a 3d Pfizer or Moderna shot? Pharmacies are librarian strict with the 6 motnh TO THE DAY for the 3d booster and not allowing the 3d shot for J&J until u get a CDC approval on this.

[@kathybrady4033]

How many hundreds of thousands of patients died because they could not get REM as an outpatient because doctors were not brave or smart enough to order it?? Sad.

[@SurlyHick]

That lady is on the verge of pathological paranoia

[@RandyMacLeodon]

What makes you say that? Her summary of what to do for the holidays at ~49:00 seemed sensible.

[@sunnyla2835]

Oh, great, Dr Pharma Topol!! Let’s hear from honest doc Monica Gandhi!!!

[@janyenyo]

Yea test test test, easy for you all to say when it costs 28 dollars for 2 tests at CVS not easy for us on a limited income to buy all these tests at that price. THE US SHOULD HAVE INVESTED IN FREE HOME TESTS FOR ALL HOUSEHOLDS ON DEMAND

[@jonetyson]

Harvard Prof Michael Mina has said a bottleneck has been regulatory: The FDA has never been a public health organization, so as far as FDA approval goes, they treated covid tests as medical tests for individuals, rather than as a public health surveillance tool to stop transmission and end the epidemic at the population level.

[@jonetyson]

But yes, I agree that the USA completely dropped the ball by not having an immediate "warp speed" type program to get the damn tests produced, distributed, and into daily use by everyone. Require them daily at schools and workplaces and anywhere else, and the epidemic could have been put to a quick end back in 2020.

[@CoolInOlympia]

I agree! Should be free home tests for all!

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

The federal government heard you. They are sending materials to public health departments. You can check with your local community health center, where many cities and towns are now (or very soon) offering free KN95 masks and home tests. NYC has started this already. You do not have to show that you are a citizen and I don't think you need to show financial need. But you will have to go there in person.

[@casteretpollux]

3 euros here - about 4 dollars.

[@flowersinherhair]

Why aren't nursing home residents all boosted? The recommendation was there weeks ago.

[@Lp78Ch]

Think about it. Think really, really hard.

[@yomoma7243]

Morning

[@Musicpassion418]

To get in & out of mutli-residential buildings where Omicron hangs in the air for 2 hours...we need MASK MANDATES across the country.

[@coralreefrs]

Why did this appear when I typed "Based department"

[@deborahdavidson3145]

rapid tests are are not available to the general population right now