OMNIS-DUO Review. The battery powered all-in-one (The end Of Pioneer DJ?)

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@ruk2023--
@ruk2023-- 10 ай бұрын
I'm trying to figure out why they would want to erase the most recognised brand name in DJ equipment.
@speedygeoff9595
@speedygeoff9595 10 ай бұрын
It does happen. I'm old enough to still think the most recognized brand in DJ equipment is Technics 🙂
@ruk2023--
@ruk2023-- 10 ай бұрын
I don't understand your point. Technics became virtually unknown because they didn't move into the digital DJ market. Pioneer DJ are still the number one product brand used in every single DJ booth in clubs and festivals. It cost them millions upon millions in marketing and advertising to achieve that status. Why throw away that brand cachet and ability to price accordingly on a product line nobody has heard of unless you're told it's owned by the company that owns Pioneer DJ?@@speedygeoff9595​
@JKOEN
@JKOEN 10 ай бұрын
They acquired PioneerDJ 10 years ago and everyone says the licensing to the name ran out so now they had to change the name
@simonconquest
@simonconquest 10 ай бұрын
Because of people referring to their DJ equipment as Pioneer and not PioneerDJ. Pioneer is a completely different company.
@ruk2023--
@ruk2023-- 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it is but I own a Pioneer AV receiver and the logo still looks the same as my Pioneer DJ decks. @@simonconquest
@tlaf4367
@tlaf4367 10 ай бұрын
The price is absolutely RIDICULOUS!!!
@djk2290
@djk2290 8 ай бұрын
Yes! I'll wait till $500
@ScrottyMcBigMac
@ScrottyMcBigMac 4 ай бұрын
With the features it’s got it’s worth like 700 max
@alidonis4053
@alidonis4053 4 ай бұрын
​@@ScrottyMcBigMacEven the ddj 400 had more features! i'm only buying that one IF it reaches 600. I'm not spending any more. (acounting the ddj 400 needs a fairly good pc to work)
@bigdaz7272
@bigdaz7272 10 ай бұрын
I would say the stand out feature of this unit is thats its even more overpriced than _almost_ all of Pioneers other stuff 💪
@chemeister
@chemeister 10 ай бұрын
*AlphaTheta 🙄
@dam55ian
@dam55ian 10 ай бұрын
facts
@PremiumUserUltra
@PremiumUserUltra 10 ай бұрын
Lol
@Maurin67
@Maurin67 10 ай бұрын
Looks a bit like something you would get out of a happy meal
@samirait-kaci-gf3bn
@samirait-kaci-gf3bn 10 ай бұрын
😂😂 so fucking true
@sidekicksjn
@sidekicksjn 10 ай бұрын
Build quality looks appalling for the price.
@Maurin67
@Maurin67 10 ай бұрын
@@sidekicksjn can’t judge that from a distance really, but it just doesn’t look like professional dj gear. It looks like a ddj-flx4 with built in monitor, for the price of pro dj equipment.
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 10 ай бұрын
ok fanboy @@sidekicksjn
@EI_Greko
@EI_Greko 10 ай бұрын
Definitely looks like my flx4​@@Maurin67
@JESS-E_official
@JESS-E_official 10 ай бұрын
So far I am quite dissapointed. Let me start with saying it's great to see that AT/Pioneer DJ are trying to move forward to streaming, wireless, party/bluetooth song request kind of modes for those house parties or jam sessions on the go. But there are a lot of major oversights for me, and things that Denon/Numark already do better at a better price point. Moving away from physical buttons and having to take more steps to get where you are on the machine whilst in the mix is something I have experienced on a variety of Denon gear, up to the SC6000 even which is brilliant. Pioneer or AT (this will age like X/twitter...) always has had its strong suit on having the same physical button layout, everything from memory cue and loop to hot cue / play cue buttons and mixer controls are all the same on the whole scala of their products, this was a major strong point. Any DJ with experience on pioneer gear is able to play a set with 0 set up time regardless of what the venue is set up with, this seems to fade away with this product and assumably more so in the future. I strongly wonder about responsiveness of the buttons and the interface, the waveforms seem cramped and tiny on the screen as they're surrounded by the on screen buttons. The bluetooth song record and manipulation is a cool idea, but I wonder how much use it will get and how it will sound on some pa speakers. Personally I am missing the following buttons: Slip/Quantize, Master Tempo, second bank of cue button levels for beat loop and effects, Color FX selector, the brilliant FX section, headphones cue buttons, track search, physical browse and playlist buttons. No jog wheel lights is a shame but I can understand with battery power and size, but it is an iconic touch that is gone on this unit. Then one gripe I really cannot get over with, even for house parties and on the go: Where is the second usb A slot? It probably won't also work with a tiny usb hub or will it? How do you swap dj's now that are not on SD cards. And there is no major streaming service integration so you can't really hop on to one of those, play a track and swap usb. I guess as a hardcore Pioneer fanboy it is time to invest in the last holy grail setup and watch that age like fine Technics wine. Any thoughts of others or Crossfade themselves?
@FMHOfficialMusic
@FMHOfficialMusic 10 ай бұрын
Couldn´t agree more. Huge blunder from AlphaTheta in my opinion to deviate from the established layout. Luckily we got the FLX-4/FLX-10 controllers before they made the shift. They will be around for quite some time.
@s.o.shumanbeing7909
@s.o.shumanbeing7909 10 ай бұрын
To mutch digital
@Tokent555
@Tokent555 10 ай бұрын
I purchased my XDJ-XZ 3 years ago and unless it goes totally dead I don’t think I will change, its got EVERY feature, input and output a DJ would need, so this new bluetooth gimmick while having only a half ass controller makes 0 sense to pick up. Even the bedroom djs would be better off with a DDJ-400…. Useless product
@impulex4952
@impulex4952 9 ай бұрын
@@Tokent555 even the older CDJs are better than this crap. imo peak was CDJ2000NXS2 / XZ, everything after that isnt worth it. If i was a beginner and someone told me "bluetooth connectivity" i wouldnt even know what to do!
@Tokent555
@Tokent555 9 ай бұрын
@@impulex4952 My only problem with that setup is that before the XZ even 1 Nxs2 was much more expensive than the XZ itself. The club where I learned most of my stuff had 2 2000nxs2 and a 900nx2 mixer, there was no way I could afford anything like that to practice at home, but then thankfully the XZ came out and it was my first normal setup after the DDJ-RB
@djmegaG
@djmegaG 10 ай бұрын
$1500 tho.. just to mention you can get Rane One or a pair of xdj 700 or a pair of 1200 mk2's for that price.
@dam55ian
@dam55ian 10 ай бұрын
not only that for that price u can get a setup of xdj700 and a batterypack to do just what this is supposed to do but better or a secondhands macbook/laptoptablet and a controller
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 10 ай бұрын
​@@stadium999"accessible" is a very broad word that could apply to any other stand alone controller.
@TranceCore3
@TranceCore3 5 ай бұрын
You'd probably still need a mixer for the two XDJs, no one needs two heavy ass media players that can't be mixed. And for people just getting into the hobby, you should be including the cost of the mixer, if the unit doesn't come with one already.
@jono8588
@jono8588 5 ай бұрын
​@@stadium999I'd actually say with the lack of so many buttons and the reliance on a tiny overcrowded screen that it's actually not very accessible at all! 😑
@leightonblake6907
@leightonblake6907 10 ай бұрын
I'm still in shock that this £400 controller is £1000 over price
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 10 ай бұрын
1600€ lmao, ridiculous
@bigdaz7272
@bigdaz7272 10 ай бұрын
Pioneer Tax my friend, they always add 40-50% on top of the actual value of there stuff before they sell it LOL
@groovindj
@groovindj 10 ай бұрын
Tell me please, where can you get a standalone DJ media player (it's not just a controller) for £400?
@nickonnights
@nickonnights 10 ай бұрын
@@groovindj Numark Mixstream Pro £553 released 2021 and battery version Numark Mixstream Pro Go £666 released 2023 both units use Engine as an OS and have more features on launch than this lazy addition to Pioneers hardware catalogue.
@jaykumarr1
@jaykumarr1 10 ай бұрын
It's actually 1500 dollars 😂 way too high
@biffinbome
@biffinbome 10 ай бұрын
I hate how a lot of the physical buttons have been turned into touch screen actions. Not the future I want.
@roumadeit
@roumadeit 10 ай бұрын
maybe they wanted to give an advanced or premium feel to it like the pro cdjs
@dhaimovich1
@dhaimovich1 10 ай бұрын
💯 takes the soul out of DJing
@wachimol
@wachimol 9 ай бұрын
Yeah if a button goes out there's always the possibility of opening it up and changing out the part. your touchscreen breaks you've got a 1500 dollar paperweight
@biffinbome
@biffinbome 9 ай бұрын
@@wachimol this is a very good point
@rosscollier7120
@rosscollier7120 3 ай бұрын
I think It makes since to have digital buttons for things you don't need to touch as often while playing and you can set it how you prefer but some of the things (like the sync button) I feel should be physical imo
@DomiVox
@DomiVox 10 ай бұрын
It seriously looks like a Fisher Price toy... I can't believe this is actually happening... I think the world has gone bonkers.
@robertschnobert9090
@robertschnobert9090 10 ай бұрын
I kind of like the look. Minimal. The price and user interface don't convince me though. It's a start I guess. 🌈
@djdommenjay
@djdommenjay 10 ай бұрын
Since 2020 the world has gone absolute shit
@roumadeit
@roumadeit 10 ай бұрын
and they say another thing like the 2020 stuff is comming 🥴 @@djdommenjay
@DJCesarAlas
@DJCesarAlas 10 ай бұрын
I will keep my Denon Prime Go, thank you.
@djlenzo8683
@djlenzo8683 10 ай бұрын
Same!!
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 10 ай бұрын
I've added an Innofader crossfader on mine and it's TOP-NOTCH!
@astralyd
@astralyd 10 ай бұрын
If you already have that you obviously dont need this one 😂
@ParrotZeka
@ParrotZeka 10 ай бұрын
Same brother
@bynkro
@bynkro 9 ай бұрын
I'll wait for the version with vertical EQ knobs ..
@AndreiMoro
@AndreiMoro 10 ай бұрын
Haha. I'll stick to my Prime Go, thank you very much. 3 years later is one of the best things I've ever played on (especially for its size).
@OsseusChicago
@OsseusChicago 10 ай бұрын
I'll stick to my Numark Mixstream Pro. I can also mix on CDJs and Pioneer's all in ones fine at this point. I just need something to practice and home and make sure tracks sound good together. The fact that there's no streaming is also a big letdown. I am considering upgrading to a used RX2 or SC Live 4 down the line for almost this exact price range. it's a shame this couldn't have been sub 1k for newer djs.
@glenmontpiankhi
@glenmontpiankhi 10 ай бұрын
I use the flx4 for practice or something to take in a backpack. A lot cheaper
@paulmichael415
@paulmichael415 10 ай бұрын
I’ve learned from enough new products that I’ll have to wait to hear from friends before spending 1400$ on this. I already got a prime go and while it isn’t perfect. It was truly innovative when it came out and it’s helped me tons over the years
@grizeldiSLO
@grizeldiSLO 10 ай бұрын
What's up with the whole "lets move as many buttons as possible to the touchscreen" concept? Seems like a complete antithesis of the concept of a DJ controller, if I didn't want physical buttons, I'd be DJing without a controller directly on a laptop/phone. Especially at that price.
@brianweingartner619
@brianweingartner619 10 ай бұрын
eventually it will be all screen, but like 5 times as thick as an iPad
@paniejakubie
@paniejakubie 10 ай бұрын
Probably because it's cheaper to make one screen than multiple various knobs and their entire electronics. I can't imagine trying to figure out the menu in this thing to do stuff that would take one knob though.
@jono8588
@jono8588 5 ай бұрын
​Cheaper? Nothing about the huge price of this controller has anything to do with cheaper! 😂
@vladmak229
@vladmak229 10 ай бұрын
Just one question: why?
@jesseopjescherm
@jesseopjescherm 10 ай бұрын
I love the look, the size and almost everything about this unit. BUT.. Twice the price of a Mixstream Go with less features and an extra monthly subscription.. come on Pioneer. Give use something disruptive like the DDJ-1000 again. The only reason would be the existing rekordbox support which is using a different file format as well.. At this price point it’s very hard to consider.
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 10 ай бұрын
the look is the worst part
@Turbo_TechnoLogic
@Turbo_TechnoLogic 10 ай бұрын
Nice toy :D A pricey one too! Looked promising at the beginning but this is just too few for too much
@DJCesarAlas
@DJCesarAlas 10 ай бұрын
Bluetooth?! WOW! So innovative... for 2010, maybe. 😂😂😂
@Olppa
@Olppa 10 ай бұрын
And it doesn't even have low latency codecs
@christbel4965
@christbel4965 10 ай бұрын
You seem to don't know what you talking. YES It a great option and no other Btands have this option on is StandAlone unit
@DJ_BeatBlasterz
@DJ_BeatBlasterz 10 ай бұрын
@@christbel4965 The funny thing is that in reality everyone knows that all Denon/Numark units with wifi already have a built-in bluetooth chip since the 2017 sc5000. It's just not enabled in EngineOS yet.
@DJWenlowe
@DJWenlowe 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much to Jamie for another excellent product review. I remember watching you nearly 4 years ago reviewing Denon DJ's excellent little Prime Go and therein lies the problem, they've blatantly copied the Prime Go from 4 years ago but produced a product that doesn't do as much as the Prime Go ( bar the Bluetooth ) and yet this will probably cost a fortune compared to that. Denon DJ must be rolling on the floor laughing right now 😂
@sprizzo1963
@sprizzo1963 9 ай бұрын
We still have my Pioneer ddj400, laptop and jbl extreme 3. ... working spontaneus wonders in the Vondelpark Amsterdam
@inkeyst
@inkeyst 10 ай бұрын
Denon prime 4+ is a bit more expensive, but loaded with the features. If I would throw a party in the wild I would just use a mobile powerbank like Ecoflow, so I can play all night long. And sound systems usually run from the quiet generator like the red Honda series. Can't get the idea of this device. By the way, while the interface looks sleek, absence of the physical controls for effects and players makes this also less intuitive.
@studioviper3016
@studioviper3016 10 ай бұрын
I honestly thought this was gonna cost £600. It doesnt look premium or pro, at all.
@giorgiobarattini9980
@giorgiobarattini9980 10 ай бұрын
Me during the review: 😄 Me when the price came up: 💀
@internetshaquille
@internetshaquille 10 ай бұрын
The influence Teenage Engineering has had on music hardware is still being felt
@bloepje
@bloepje 10 ай бұрын
Bluetooth integration is wild. So you can actually hook up a pc, microphone or anything that uses bluetooth, live generate whatever you want (like someone at wedding having said something), and loop that on that system. It's not about a song on your phone, but it is about spamming the "I do" at that wedding party just before the beat drops.
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 10 ай бұрын
nothing "wild" about that, and it also comes to Denon/Numark, dont worry.
@cassiusjb
@cassiusjb 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad they finally put an internal clock in. 👍
@kereamohau
@kereamohau 10 ай бұрын
You can see are they are going after the Denon DJ market here. It wouldn't surprise me if they have a "Prime 4" type unit in the works.
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 10 ай бұрын
At 3x the cost 😂😂😂
@Xdot15
@Xdot15 6 ай бұрын
I mean the opus quad already exists 😂 $4.5k
@nicolazanata
@nicolazanata 9 ай бұрын
Well, it’s actually the first product I see that has been able to overcome Spotify limitations using the clever Bluetooth playback feature. It’s like streaming (which is not possibile due to the agreements between Spotify and artists). This is huge!
@petercohen4715
@petercohen4715 9 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe is why only one USB slot? Especially at parties, other people want to jump on, and everyone goes B2B these days.
@CezarHernandez
@CezarHernandez 10 ай бұрын
It looks like my DDJ-1000 will have to wait a bit longer for its retirement.... Maybe my preferences are too old-fashioned.
@djdontgetcooked
@djdontgetcooked 10 ай бұрын
I used to have a DDJ-1000 and I sold it and since then I had SC6000M, x1850, rx3, x1mk3 but I still miss the DDJ-1000 every single day
@TheBassMaster56
@TheBassMaster56 10 ай бұрын
I have an FLX 10 and it's a fantastic controller.
@sazwell
@sazwell 10 ай бұрын
Fortunately the FLX-10 seems to retain the old style of design unlike the FLX-4/6
@astralyd
@astralyd 10 ай бұрын
the ddj-1000 is a perfectly fine controller, I just bought one, what do you mean..?
@TheBassMaster56
@TheBassMaster56 10 ай бұрын
@@astralyd FLX 10 is a "new version" of the 1000
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 10 ай бұрын
The UI looks very "Android" like, I guess I've taken the Engine DJ UI for granted all these years with their continuous updates and clean layout 😮
@DEBOASSE
@DEBOASSE 10 ай бұрын
They clearly don't want to associate legacy and established club products released under the former Pioneer Dj brand with Alpha Theta. This product release coming out at the same time a rebranding is going on shows a new direction from now on. IMO they want to put ore focus on everyday DJs and content creators.
@Nexus--9
@Nexus--9 10 ай бұрын
OR, they dont want people to be able to say "look pioneer copied denon!" as it's basically an overpriced denon go
@gd_xl
@gd_xl 10 ай бұрын
love that direction but not everyday DJ friendly in any way with that 1500 price tag
@DEBOASSE
@DEBOASSE 10 ай бұрын
@@gd_xl I know right? The product is cool but no $1500 cool
@lost_resident
@lost_resident 10 ай бұрын
Looks Ideal for outdoor sets and streams and has some unique features but the price is wild! Thought it was going to be under 600 euro for sure till I got to the end of the video.
@ChromaCat
@ChromaCat 10 ай бұрын
Been waiting for such a unit, I like the color design and the connectivity options BUT - Price tag wtf? The screen is so pixelated low resolution, the thick black bezels wtf? The Effects control also is very bad. Next release please..
@davidline2454
@davidline2454 10 ай бұрын
Great detailed review. Just don’t understand why this needs to exist, or why they seem to be using the lacklustre prime series of controllers as a benchmark to beat
@irishpaddy555
@irishpaddy555 10 ай бұрын
‘Lack lustre’ thats funny..💩😆
@CabaretDescartes
@CabaretDescartes 10 ай бұрын
Pioneer DJ's interfaces were bright and looked similar on most of their products so you could get familiar on a professional setup if you practiced on a DDJ-400, but the monotone look of the OMNIS-DUO makes me worried about what they might do with their next CDJs
@OfficialMosik
@OfficialMosik 10 ай бұрын
Great review and honestly I completely agree! Especially with why not already have it automatically connected to streaming services…like that’s huge
@filipkernc2189
@filipkernc2189 10 ай бұрын
love the size and the looks with xlr outputs and mic inputs. But price killed it all. otherwise i would think about getting it. if you connect computer with rekordbox, arent you able to use tidal with this then?
@graemestewart7205
@graemestewart7205 10 ай бұрын
With no streaming unless you never use another product there are cheaper alternatives that do more!
@arioheshmatzadeh7880
@arioheshmatzadeh7880 10 ай бұрын
Technically you can still "stream" through Rekordbox but I hear you, still need a laptop connected for streaming.
@jaja87
@jaja87 10 ай бұрын
I think this is the case of a company trying to tell us what we need rather than asking us what we want. I don’t think it’s going to work.
@DJ_BeatBlasterz
@DJ_BeatBlasterz 10 ай бұрын
The Pioneer / Alphatheta mentality at the moment is a bit "Tell us what you want/expect and let us explain why you don't need it while paying 60% more than the competition who have everything you want".
@kreature6618
@kreature6618 10 ай бұрын
They seen people are stupid these days and will buy any old crap, look at the gaming industry and movies
@albertgecco6814
@albertgecco6814 10 ай бұрын
Omnis invented Denon Prime go. Bravo Pioneer Corporation burns))))
@GrahamWinder1
@GrahamWinder1 9 ай бұрын
Sold.... perfect for plug in bar gigs!
@nickonnights
@nickonnights 10 ай бұрын
Oh dear oh dear, typical Pioneer ignorance. New product already out of date. The Numark Mixstream Pro Go is older, cheaper (half the price) and has more functionality with streaming services integrated from launch.
@jaja87
@jaja87 10 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why they don’t listen to what people want rather than the company trying to tell us what we need…there’s a whole community of djs that they could access to make something that is truly innovative but they just rely on their name… no one cares.
@nickonnights
@nickonnights 10 ай бұрын
@@jaja87 spot on. But they are the mighty Pioneer who know best. Unfortunately the heavy reliance on industry standard with regard to the CDJ line up has made them a very blinkered company. They haven’t been anywhere near as innovative as they should’ve been and have been overtaken and now look very outdated.
@afill471
@afill471 10 ай бұрын
Its basically the FLX series just rebranded, but id much more be interested if they bring out a 4-deck version of it with the buttons that switch between decks. The standalone feature at this price range and wireless feature of this is reasonable imo.
@tjsongman
@tjsongman 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps it was enabled in an update after this video, but you can stream! A local Sacramento, CA. DJ shop demoed streaming Spotify to this controller via Bluetooth. The controller caches up to 10 minutes of audio and you can manipulate the track just like an mp3 (scratch/add effects/loop/etc). Crazy!
@bonebrew22
@bonebrew22 7 ай бұрын
On the streaming issue, I would imagine the licensing and legal effort would be immense, because you have to work out deals with each streamer, who then have to update their user agreements to include licensing the music for public performance, which is technically illegal still.
@christopherneedham5872
@christopherneedham5872 10 ай бұрын
This is a good unit for instagram djs tbf🤔…They can now Bluetooth playlists from there phone and then twiddle with buttons 👍
@simonconquest
@simonconquest 10 ай бұрын
Those who are commenting on the name change. It's because of people referring to their DJ equipment as Pioneer and not PioneerDJ. Pioneer is a completely different company. People here are are still calling it Pioneer.
@jumpstar9000
@jumpstar9000 10 ай бұрын
It has never been a problem before
@mduduzidesmond8523
@mduduzidesmond8523 10 ай бұрын
ddj 400 for me still rock
@oralmiller9145
@oralmiller9145 10 ай бұрын
Inmusic group now would be a great opportunity to drop a numark ns6iii, something about the size of the ns7ii without spinning jogs, lighter, and just a few upgrades and you'll be the newest leader in this Dj equipment biz!!!!!
@LinkageAX
@LinkageAX 10 ай бұрын
I would be worried about how the BT performs in a room full of people with BT and other wireless features going all over the place with laptops and phones and etc everywhere causing interference
@LinkageAX
@LinkageAX 10 ай бұрын
For reference, my Pioneer BT headphones cut out when a car drives past
@christbel4965
@christbel4965 10 ай бұрын
No Streaming Services for now ! like (Tidal, BeatSource etc). It will come in soon, with some update ❤❤
@TheDjtricks
@TheDjtricks 5 ай бұрын
Alpha theta ❤
@christbel4965
@christbel4965 10 ай бұрын
You missed 2 options. 1- With BT you can read your Smartphone in continious, with out need to record😉. Great for backup, using ex(djay and Tidal). 2 - you can acces Rekordbox Cloud. I think the big mystake is no Streaming services. BT are great, the only + agains the compétitions, but nothing to make me buy the unit😊 Crazy price $1500. I will keep my MST pro.
@Opethjunky613
@Opethjunky613 10 ай бұрын
I'd be happy if they ditched the streaming service in exchange for lighting control or something useful. Streaming services are whack anyway. Owning your own music is the way to go.
@patrush4632
@patrush4632 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review. Where and how do you access your samples on this?
@stokley121
@stokley121 9 ай бұрын
People are hating on this. However, I think this is the only Pioneer unit that has a loop encoder and dedicated beat jump buttons other than the Opus Quad, lol.
@sazwell
@sazwell 10 ай бұрын
This looks like a £600 device, the £1,369 pricetag is crazyyy
@NicolayGiraldo
@NicolayGiraldo 10 ай бұрын
The "strange" Bluetooth functionality seems quite obvious to me: You can stream from Spotify with Bluetooth, and there's no other legal way to stream from this service, as they don't allow it. Spotify forbids any DJ software from streaming their songs. Other services could remove their access at any point, and it would not surprise me if Tidal for example removes streaming to DJ software in the future. There's no way any of these services can remove Bluetooth access, so this feature is future-proof.
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 10 ай бұрын
I don't see this workaround as being a very popular method for playing music anytime in the future. Streaming will eventually be baked into all these units and someone will make a lot of money when finally implemented to perfection.
@JadeEyeland
@JadeEyeland 10 ай бұрын
@@hardkore360 its not because technology isnt there you used to be able to DJ with spotify its licensing and issues between the companies/rights holders
@djkeithjust
@djkeithjust 10 ай бұрын
The biggest reason is the licensing deals that they will have to contend with when it comes to adding streaming services to access to these devices! It doesn’t start and stop with Tidal, SoundCloud or us the customer. I can only imagine how much these services want for access (or even the labels).
@thedjslav
@thedjslav 9 ай бұрын
An unreliable and absolutely unnecessary piece of crap equipment? Thank you for your review and breaking it down for us ❤❤
@RyuOnline
@RyuOnline 10 ай бұрын
Not having any streaming services seems a huge oversight.
@couturesounds
@couturesounds 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, as always. BIG BUT: Whoa, did the thing allowes to record audio from spotify and play it in parties where a DJ charges money for that? I bet a big sue is comming to Alphatheta if that's the case.
@robertschnobert9090
@robertschnobert9090 10 ай бұрын
Imagine someone comes up to you with a song request, they connect their phone and in the middle of the song they receive a call! You better set your phone to airplane mode when you want to play songs. 🌈
@deanwattersreilly7011
@deanwattersreilly7011 10 ай бұрын
looks like something from argos back in the day
@kennethmalafy8012
@kennethmalafy8012 10 ай бұрын
If they kill the Pioneer brand- that is a mistake, those pIoneer products have a high price tag and sell out almost immediately. That will hit them in the pocket. This product isn't innovative without the streaming- it is behind the numark and denon product (that is basically the same product) at launch. The price tag puts it out of the range of "just throwing together a party with some friends."
@moflexmusicinc.6060
@moflexmusicinc.6060 10 ай бұрын
Unique quirky but I like it idk why … I assume they might add an updated 4 channel controller that has all the other features we love or even saw (fx controls ) and possibly see a refresh of the cdj’s and mixers as well Who knows ? But I do like the direction they are going Only other company I’ve seen really step up their product was Denon Dj … so this will be cool to see Just wish the price would be bit more affordable
@Dynemics
@Dynemics 10 ай бұрын
The omission of music streaming on this product is quite strange.
@Livingstone.productions
@Livingstone.productions 10 ай бұрын
I feel they really missed out on this unit. They had the Dennon as an example and they didn't copy the cool features in particular the lighting with Philips hue. One more thing is the breakout box for low latency layout..... Come on! Who wants to have this sonic link thingmidget dangling on the wires. So it's wireless.... with wires.... Last but not least if it's a unit to move from CDJ's why not fully replicate the look and feel of a CDJ Same buttons, same layout? Otherwise cool device.
@djk2290
@djk2290 8 ай бұрын
I wait on this one.
@lucbeaulieu2086
@lucbeaulieu2086 9 ай бұрын
love how you can get more affordable comparably to other cdj/xdjs while still retaining most of the cdj features. dub echo and the other filter options are super sick to see on a small form factor all in one. mono split is also dope. i can see this really being useful as a way for people to learn to play on cdjs, and also for small venues/ clubs/club djs. super stocked to see how this will influence futures alpha theta/pioneerDJ products
@jono8588
@jono8588 5 ай бұрын
Dude, take off the rose-tinted glasses! 😂 This thing is heavily over-priced and heavily under-powered! It's the DJ controller equivalent of when Apple started removing ports from their computers and phones and said "but don't worry, you can use an adapter that you have to pay extra for to replicate the same functionality of the older models". It's an absolute joke. The FLX-4 has better functionality and is 82% cheaper (based on Australian prices) all so that you get a controller that looks like a kids toy, with an average battery life, and a Bluetooth gimmick that you'll never use... No club DJ or mobile professional in their right mind would want all that wasted button real estate on the controller in exchange for having to click on a little overcrowded touchscreen for every single other function and I'm not even sure if you can even replicate all the standard PioneerDJ features anyway! You must clearly work for Alpha-Theta if you think this is a *great* product that will actually help the industry! 😂
@DW.Strangeman
@DW.Strangeman 10 ай бұрын
When I first saw this I thought it was going to be an alternative to the Numark Mix track pro... Then I had alook at the price!😮 Has everyone gone mad? Pro output specs for a standalone which doest even have full throw pitch sliders. For less you can get Rane One or not much more, Rev 7. When I started back in 91, i never thought I'd go digital but now I'm on board but this is bewildering and seems more like a vanity project than a step forward. Probably wrong(as usual) but i can see a lot of these on the second hand market in a years time😢
@goopy303
@goopy303 10 ай бұрын
Ended the video after "Bluetooth Output" 🤣
@delaSarge
@delaSarge 10 ай бұрын
After having watched other reviews saying the same things about this controller, I simply don't get why it is something really special that you can record audio from your iPhone via bluetooth and you can even add cue points to it....????
@vegaf2011
@vegaf2011 3 ай бұрын
So what I’m getting is this is the first device of its kind? Or does another controller stand tall against this controller I keep seeing they are missing sound effect knobs
@apexpredator_jku
@apexpredator_jku 10 ай бұрын
If you're going to put out a piece of gear that emulates what the competition is doing...have been doing, if you're not going to do it better or as good then don't do it at all. Never mind the Prime GO, this doesn't even stack up against the battery powered Numark standalone.
@brandonsealey4511
@brandonsealey4511 10 ай бұрын
Not feeling the look but it has full sized jogs unlike the Prime Go and the 4 extra hot cue buttons over the Mixstream Pro....but that price though yesh. Based on this - the OPUS Quad look appears to be the future of "Pioneer DJ" or whatever it is now. I'll be holding onto my DDJ 1000SRT extra tight now. Side note after Jaime demonstrated the wireless speaker with the interface for low latency, I think the first portable unit to come with a low latency bluetooth option built in will dominate that market.
@DartsandHipHop
@DartsandHipHop 7 ай бұрын
Is serato dj pro gonna be standalone? I only want this to run without a laptop
@anboojz
@anboojz 8 ай бұрын
can’t judge that from a distance really, but it just doesn’t look like professional dj gear. It looks like a ddj-flx4 with built in monitor, for the price of pro dj equipment.
@bynkro
@bynkro 9 ай бұрын
@2:15 "Yes, this is basically a Denon DJ GoPro, but the EQ knobs are actually vertical, designed for human beings" I was really hoping that Denon would fix that glaring issue, but looks like Pioneer beat them to it anyway.
@bdbeats7209
@bdbeats7209 10 ай бұрын
The Mixstream Pro Go and Denon Prime (if it had bigger jog wheels) seem like better options.
@9285550
@9285550 8 ай бұрын
Mixstream pro go has good size jogs
@billmaries
@billmaries 10 ай бұрын
Is the tempo fader the same size as the flx4 ?
@DiscJokeyDarkSigns
@DiscJokeyDarkSigns 10 ай бұрын
1. It lacks the typical loop buttons. 2. The trim button is not at the top, but rather sitting awkwardly on the sides, same applies to the filters. 3. The pitch fader is laughable at this price point. 4. There are no Hot Cue/Pad FX/Beat Jump/Sampler buttons on top of the pads. 5. The cue/play buttons are miniature and made of plastic, they also share the same white LEDs (have fun distinguishing between those 2 in a club setting) Both Pioneer & Alpha Theta have lost the plot.
@Thedivinevision.19
@Thedivinevision.19 3 ай бұрын
Hey it might sound stupid but i really wanna know do I still have to go through rekordbox in my laptop to export tracks or i can prepare it on the unit
@philllipattidore2522
@philllipattidore2522 8 ай бұрын
They said steaming will be available in the unit but the price this unit is over the top
@djchemie
@djchemie 10 ай бұрын
If this was ~$500, i was going to consider it. But anything beyond that, no. Am i too cheap? I dont known😂
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 10 ай бұрын
Nope, you know the value of money vs. options
@sychedelix
@sychedelix 10 ай бұрын
It's interesting, but I would've preferred a DDJ-FLX 4 (and 8) with the onboarding screen and no battery and no Bluetooth features really. I'm not impressed compared to Denon Prime Go, but it's still a good step forward.
@darc_harmoni4828
@darc_harmoni4828 10 ай бұрын
No doubt. A couple hundred more for an FLX10 and it’s a Beast!
@spacecy
@spacecy 10 ай бұрын
"The end Of Pioneer DJ?"... lmao 😂😂
@benoyvijethdsouza1527
@benoyvijethdsouza1527 10 ай бұрын
I think AT/pionnerdj are having troubles in knowing what djs actually want . The console which came before till DJM A9, they all looked like a dj console, complicated machines but fun when you know how to use it . Nowadays they are realising stuff which looks like a showpiece. I personally would feel bored after sometime to play with these players . Hopefully AT realises it and comes back making products that are actually dj products. Not some toy to play with.
@ericlloyd7981
@ericlloyd7981 9 ай бұрын
You missed the audition for the Mandarin in Iron Man 3, it went to Sir Ben Kingsley, and that was years ago.
@wtcbd01
@wtcbd01 10 ай бұрын
Thanks.....I made a similar comment on another video. You definitely headed it off. I said.....SO this is a Denon Go ??
@francisgraham7168
@francisgraham7168 9 ай бұрын
Do you think they can just do a software update to allow streaming services down the road? Debating on buying this for boat parties ..beaches etc etc
@TheDjUvis
@TheDjUvis Ай бұрын
Looks nice how about record live music instrument is it possible to?
@Bayenke
@Bayenke 15 күн бұрын
How do you put a master channel on the Omnis Duo, for example if one channel, the right one, is at 100 bpm, how do you put the left channel as master since I don't see a button for it?
@morzie4075
@morzie4075 10 ай бұрын
just before i carry on with the video, the bluetooth idea is smart but is the latency near 100% accurate because it was either the ddj 200 or 400 or both had bluetooth for we dj and the latency between using the mixer and sound output was annoying.
@aswinwu
@aswinwu 10 ай бұрын
So, you can play and mixing with spotify again to your deck with a bluetooth?
@djkeithjust
@djkeithjust 10 ай бұрын
Spent the past 2 days at NAMM playing with this thing, and I will say it is worth every penny of $1500! Call it the Apple tax or whatever, but it’s basically an iPad with decks and a mixer. This thing outside the color is sweet!!
@julescg
@julescg 10 ай бұрын
I love physical buttons and knobs.
@djillyaslick7036
@djillyaslick7036 10 ай бұрын
AlphaTheta will now have two brand the "O" series omis duo and opus quad and the original pioneer dj brand, just like INMusic have three brands numark, denon and rane.
@bloepje
@bloepje 10 ай бұрын
My first question would be: is this alphatheta's first linux system? Or is this still a specialized OS?
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