OMSI 2 - Autodromo Busotto LU

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Routeres

Routeres

5 жыл бұрын

The CAM Busotto is an Italian citybus produced by Carrozzeria Autodromo Modena (CAM) from 1994 to 2003. The Busotto was available in 12 metres long urban (LU) and suburban (LS, LI) variants, with diesel and CNG engines, and even as trolleybus. An 18 metres long model (AU) was also produced, but only as trolleybus, with AdTranz electrical equipment.
The chassis and engines were provided by MAN. The bus was built on the NL 2x2 (A10) chassis, and the first series (1994-2001) had a single step at the back door. The engine is a 6.8 litres MAN DO826 LOH15, making 220 horsepower, paired with a 3-speed Voith automatic transmission.
In 2001 the Busotto was given a facelift, which did not include any mechanical upgrades, except for the engine to meet Euro 3 emission standard, but the body recieved a new look and the rear step was also removed, making the bus fully low floor.
The production of the Busotto ended in 2003 when CAM went bankrupt.
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🔗 LINKS
Bus: forum.omnibussimulator.de/for...
Map: omsiprojektlublin.wordpress.com/
ℹ GAME INFO
Title: OMSI 2 - The Bus Simulator
Developer: M-R-Software
Publisher: Aerosoft
Website: www.omnibussimulator.de
🖥️ MY PC
Intel Core i5 3470, 16 GB RAM, AMD R9 380
⚙️ GAME SETTINGS
www.mediafire.com/file/5xa4x9o...
🎮 GAME CONTROLLER
Logitech G920
🎵 MUSIC
Art of Silence by Uniq
• Art of Silence - Drama...

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@KruskDerTank
@KruskDerTank 5 жыл бұрын
0:40 , literally the first thing I do when I get a new bus.
@DontchaHateDat
@DontchaHateDat 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, the graphics are SO crispy 👌🏾
@transportsencommunennorman2934
@transportsencommunennorman2934 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video ! Thanks for showing all of these mods.
@vizmuvesjanos1045
@vizmuvesjanos1045 5 жыл бұрын
Tetszik az új intrószerűséged. Örülök ennek a videónak, sok kérdésemet megválaszolta.
@TransportWorldCzechRepublic
@TransportWorldCzechRepublic 5 жыл бұрын
Finally another video! Very good!
@sohanp691
@sohanp691 5 жыл бұрын
Such quality videos.
@Ale041
@Ale041 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video!!
@qualcunooo
@qualcunooo 5 жыл бұрын
We, un altro italiano!
@rowleks7102
@rowleks7102 4 жыл бұрын
Listen, i know noone has made a mod of it, but there used to be a fleet of narrow-bodied neoplan busses in Palanga (Lithuania) made of some kind of futuristic plastic. They looked 20+ years ahead of their time, if i recall correctly one was from 1980. I forgot what they were called but some features included narrow, single-tire wheels on both axles, weird body shape and size (length and width). I'm not as good in digging up info but they were part of my childhood, and afaik they were super rare. Another rare thigs are a fleet of Irvine Citaro CNG busses in Klaipėda. Really weird and special design, i think its the only place to have them in service second-hand from Germany. I'll try to post links of what i mean in the reply section below.
@rowleks7102
@rowleks7102 4 жыл бұрын
Alright i found out that they were a project called Neoplan MIC. There were CNG, electric, diesel and some other abomination of an engine available. All i found was an infomercial showing the electric Metroliner, which was pretty much the same as the diesel ones found in Palanga. Also i found pictures of the fleet. One was literally crushed, another one was missing its front, and i forgot what happened to the rest. I will link the public transport spotting website.
@rowleks7102
@rowleks7102 4 жыл бұрын
fotobus.msk.ru/list.php?serv=0&mid=1401&cid=140 God damn man, so sad seeing them in the state they're in nowadays.
@routeres
@routeres 4 жыл бұрын
It's from the late 80s-early 90s era. Cool stuff, I've always liked Neoplan's out of ordinary designs.
@rowleks7102
@rowleks7102 4 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Yeah in fact, now that i look at it it they look like old american airport busses.
@bencegyors
@bencegyors 5 жыл бұрын
Please make more vids!! I love them!! :D
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, de akkor melózni ki fog? 🤔
@calle5494
@calle5494 5 жыл бұрын
How do you manage to get OMSI running so smoothly? Looking at your specs, they aren’t all that different from mine. Yet, I get lag spikes all the time. You have it running smoothly for 20 minutes.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
This is a question I get asked a lot, but to be honest, I don't have a definitive answer. 😅 Maybe try the settings I used for this video: www.mediafire.com/file/5xa4x9op1dwcf44/OMSI_2_Routeres.oop/file
@TheRollingBear
@TheRollingBear 5 жыл бұрын
A high class PC is all what u need
@rattiofficial
@rattiofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid again! :)
@TheRollingBear
@TheRollingBear 5 жыл бұрын
Cool bus man!!
@yuniorpaprikagongoraespino9470
@yuniorpaprikagongoraespino9470 5 жыл бұрын
muy buen video elegante saludos
@Ernest9081
@Ernest9081 5 жыл бұрын
Good Vídeo, Routeres!
@KoKoKo_Channel
@KoKoKo_Channel 5 жыл бұрын
Jó videó! 🙂👍
@miklosszinyicska8499
@miklosszinyicska8499 5 жыл бұрын
Nagyon jó lett! 👍
@miklosszinyicska8499
@miklosszinyicska8499 5 жыл бұрын
@NWX427 csak ezt ne😁
@senki9646
@senki9646 5 жыл бұрын
NWX427 Szija bajátom!
@miklosszinyicska8499
@miklosszinyicska8499 5 жыл бұрын
@NWX427 xd😂
@senki9646
@senki9646 5 жыл бұрын
NWX427 xd
@filmykolejowe8500
@filmykolejowe8500 5 жыл бұрын
Nice mod !
@hawk_bl
@hawk_bl 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@EHLee1
@EHLee1 5 жыл бұрын
nice
@HDOuss
@HDOuss 5 жыл бұрын
Yay new video may i ask wich program u use from cinematique in omsi 2 ?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
My phone and opentrack headtracking. 😉
@dorota.matuszewska1973
@dorota.matuszewska1973 5 жыл бұрын
I love routeres
@bencekis7554
@bencekis7554 5 жыл бұрын
Most látom a leírásba, már van G920-ad. :D
@janosfodor7596
@janosfodor7596 5 жыл бұрын
Az OMSI+t tényleg nagyon kéne vissza hozni az élők sorába
@hope6571
@hope6571 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Route! I was wondering if you do fan request videos, and if you do I'm really willing to see you drive a route (your choice) on a snowy morning, with a manual gearbox bus (Old Ikarus or Neoplan for example). Nice video btw!
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm open to ideas, winter is coming soon, so is a new Ikarus mod, and I happen to have a map that I haven't shown on video yet. Maybe I can figure out something, we'll see. 😉 And thanks for the kind words.
@eliott8018
@eliott8018 5 жыл бұрын
How do you do the strat cinematic ?
@ImperialGaming44
@ImperialGaming44 5 жыл бұрын
Hogyan csináltad a "timelapse"-et (nem tudom pontosan minek nevezzem) a legelején?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Ja, úgy valahogy. Van egy buszom, aminek az utastér nézeteit eltoltam a jármű orrához. A kamerát pedig a telefonom és az opentrack kombinációjával forgatom.
@channelmoved9573
@channelmoved9573 5 жыл бұрын
Routers have you got the Throttle/Brake set for the pedals or separate pedals? as I can't get mine working only with combined pedals. Pls help if you can!
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
The throttle and brake worked separately on both my DFGT and G920. What wheel do you have? Are you using the latest driver/firmware? Make sure you don't have combined pedals enabled in the wheel's driver.
@channelmoved9573
@channelmoved9573 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Ok I will check that! :) Thanks
@channelmoved9573
@channelmoved9573 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres I have the Logitech G920
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know... The main reason is that I've been working full-time since June which doesn't leave much free time for me. I can't really get myself to spend half of my weekends with recording, post editing, and all the things that comes with it. I work in IT so I kinda sit in front of my monitor most of the time, I don't always feel like doing the same at home too. 😅 Besides that, I can't really find projects I'm super hyped about, basically all there's left are DLCs and a few projects that are unlikely to ever see the light of day. I'm keeping an eye on a few forums to stay in the loop though. 😉
@NeighborSenpai
@NeighborSenpai 5 жыл бұрын
Why is this bus GINGER?😮
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
GINGERS HAVE SOULS! 😤
@lilcuteli5843
@lilcuteli5843 5 жыл бұрын
How do you have so high framerate? Good PC but, mine is well too...
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Must be my settings then. Feel free to try it, link is in the end of the description.
@d.l.1304
@d.l.1304 5 жыл бұрын
Routeres, I've got a problem and I maybe thought you could help me. Your steering wheel, that you've used bevore, the Logitech DFGT has got no clutch. I've got the same one. I tried to use the R3 Button as the clutch, but when I programm it as the "clutch" and then press it in the game, nothing happens. Why do you need it, you think? For example I want to drive the Ikarus 256.44, but it has no automatic clutch and therefore I can't drive it. So can you maybe help me? Thanks a lot!
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, when you assigned the R3 button as the clutch on the game controller tab in the options, did you tick the "continuous" checkbox? What it does is it keeps the vehicle event triggered while you keep pressing the button. If your checkbox is unticked, it means that the game will only register a single button press. Also make sure that the automatic clutch is disabled in the options, and I would also delete all the presets from the gamectrler.cfg file, except yours of course, just to be sure.
@d.l.1304
@d.l.1304 5 жыл бұрын
​@@routeres Firstly I have to say: Thank you for your SUPER fast reply. I tested it right away and figured out, that the problem really was the gamectrler.cfg. I deleted all the other steering wheels and controllers, except the DFGT of course, and then saw probably the main problem. By all the other buttons there was a "0" and when I looked at the clutch button I saw a "1". So I corrected the "1" to a "0" and now my clutch finally works. All I have to say now is that you defenetely MUST keep on bringing new videos. Every time I want to have a new bus for OMSI 2, I first look at your videos and then pick one. Your descriptions are always brilliant too and you have all the infos you need in there (e.g. has automatic clutch, has climate control, ect.). So all in all: Thank you very much, Routeres!
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
I'm happy I could help you. 😊
@jpnmtrmn93
@jpnmtrmn93 5 жыл бұрын
It looks like you use TrackIR. I just got mine in the mail earlier this week. I was wondering if you might share your settings.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
I don't actually have TrackIR, I'm using my phone + opentrack. 😅
@jpnmtrmn93
@jpnmtrmn93 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres 🤦🏽‍♂️ wasted my money, then...
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, TrackIR is more sophisticated and comfortable to use than this method. It's more like a clever hack, not something I would use for my gaming sessions. No wonder I only use it for the intro scenes, haha. Enjoy your TrackIR mate, and Merry Christmas! 🎄
@jpnmtrmn93
@jpnmtrmn93 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Thanks for trying to make me feel better about it, haha. Merry Christmas to you as well!
@Nyugatdunantulivasutbarat
@Nyugatdunantulivasutbarat 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Routers! Lehet, hogy kérdeztem már, de van megoldás a Credo BC 11 png hibához Omsi 2-nél? Válaszodat köszönöm! :)
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! Ezek megoldják a png-s problémát: forum.omsi.cz/subdom/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=6600
@Nyugatdunantulivasutbarat
@Nyugatdunantulivasutbarat 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Köszi szépen! :)
@AliceILoveICookIBake
@AliceILoveICookIBake 5 жыл бұрын
Hi I want to drive those cool three door buses but I do not know how to open the last door so I only open the front and back doors and the passengers that want to go from the third door need to walk to the second last door and it wastes time please respond thanks.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Shamelessly copy-pasted from a previous reply: You have to find the trigger for the 3rd door and assign a key to it. It differs from bus to bus, but be sure to check manual first.
@AliceILoveICookIBake
@AliceILoveICookIBake 5 жыл бұрын
Routeres thanks a lot now I can drive those cool buses
@Armandosparadais69
@Armandosparadais69 4 жыл бұрын
do you play with a laptop? i have almost the same spec of your pc, my pc has 12 gb ram, last question: do i have to install your game configuration file in some folder omsi or i must to configurate manually in game? settings?
@routeres
@routeres 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a desktop guy myself, laptops are for work imo. The config file just has to be copied in the option_presets folder, then you can choose it from the drop-down list on the general tab in the options.
@Armandosparadais69
@Armandosparadais69 4 жыл бұрын
@@routeres thanks very kind answer
@norashar4162
@norashar4162 5 жыл бұрын
Szia!Neked nagyon szépen fut minden pálya.Nekem pl. A Dunántúlon 10 fps-em van , miért?A beállításaidat használom.Hogy lehetne növelni a teljesítményen?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! Első körben ellenőrizd a logfile tartalmát, hátha van valami folyamatos hibabejegyzés, mert beakadt valami a játékban. Az simán okozhat ilyesmit. Milyen géppel tolod? Lehet a vas kevés a pályához. Az sem kizárt, hogy a pálya van úgy megépítve, hogy elfekszik tőle a játék.
@norashar4162
@norashar4162 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Rendben majd megnézem. Intel Core i5 7500 @ 3.40GHz , 16,0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz , 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Úgy nézem a gépet kizárhatjuk, mint lehetséges ok. Én arra gyanakszom, hogy valami hiba miatt beakad a játék, folyamatosan írja a logfile-t, és emiatt szalad szét a ménes.
@norashar4162
@norashar4162 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Köszönöm!
@xmarceleqxgaming5551
@xmarceleqxgaming5551 5 жыл бұрын
Check out the Grundorf 2.0
@alecs709
@alecs709 5 жыл бұрын
great video, as usual. by the way, a romanian version of this bus, made by myself (real bus used in bucharest by RATB) is included in this final version of the vehicle. you should check it out too :D
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
I saw it, it was a nice surprise among the Italian liveries. :)
@lamaskitfi
@lamaskitfi 5 жыл бұрын
remélem rettegett az a vezetéktartó oszlop 4:09 nél :D
@omsi2player747
@omsi2player747 5 жыл бұрын
What do you press to open 3rd door??
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
The button on the dashboard. 😉
@MrFish-yq6ll
@MrFish-yq6ll 5 жыл бұрын
Az lenne a kérdésem, hogy mi lett az omnibussimulator.de oldallal? Mert a TATRA T6A2M-et sem lehet már letölteni ami nagy kár! Ha tudsz valamit vele kapcsolatban tudsz szólni?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Nyáron volt egy nagyobb felújítás az oldalon, emiatt a videóim alatti linkek már nem közvetlenül a letöltés oldalára visznek, hanem egyszerűen kidob a főoldalra. Egyébként minden ugyan ott van, mint eddig, tehát a tartalom nem változott. A villamost az OMSI Webdisk-ről tudod letölteni. Majd ahogy időm engedi, frissítem a leírásokban a linkeket.
@MrFish-yq6ll
@MrFish-yq6ll 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Köszi! Úgy hallottam hogy az omsi webdisken csak a tatra kt4d van.
@MrFish-yq6ll
@MrFish-yq6ll 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Még az lenne a kérdésem, hogy a MAN ÜL és az MB O407-nél, hogy lehet eltüntetni a Sonderfahrt táblát? Börzsönyben (Az egyik kedvenc pályám szép munka Routeres!) az AI is viseli a Sonderfahrt nevű táblát.
@MrFish-yq6ll
@MrFish-yq6ll 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Meg az a jegyes cucc amikor benyomom a Linie-t beírom a járatszámot nyomok egy drucken-t és jegyet nyomtat. Ez miért van? Pedig meg van a Stadbus O305.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
A táblát nem tudom miért rakja ki, elvileg nem kéne neki. A drucken pedig azt jelenti, hogy nyomtatni, tulajdonképpen teljesen rendeltetésszerű, hogy a nyomtatás gomb megnyomásakor nyomtat a gép. 😅
@Zsomi
@Zsomi 5 жыл бұрын
Szia! Hogyan lehet saját táblát készíteni az omsi 2-be?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! Pontosan nem tudom, gyanítom busztól is függ, szerintem meg kell rajzolnod magadnak, de én személy szerint nem szoktam ilyesmivel próbálkozni.
@Zsomi
@Zsomi 5 жыл бұрын
Routeres köszönöm válaszod!
@GeryGamez
@GeryGamez 5 жыл бұрын
How do you move the exterior camera like that?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I was using a program called Opentrack, I don't have a TrackIR. 😉
@GeryGamez
@GeryGamez 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres I have that program and I use my mobile phone, but it only works in the driver view
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, so here's my trick: I modified the driver's view on the default NL202 by editing the camera coordinates in the .bus file. I moved the camera to the front bumper, so during these scenes I can still move the camera smoothly, while not showing any part of the "camera car".
@GeryGamez
@GeryGamez 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres thank you!
5 жыл бұрын
Grava um video com um bus brasileiro
@transportchannel4757
@transportchannel4757 5 жыл бұрын
Szia azt szeretném kérdezni, hogy hogyan kell azt megcsinálni omsi 2-ben, hogy egy bizonyos villamos sínre le rakhassam a villamost mert nekem nem megy. Előre is köszi:-)
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Hello! Villamosok esetében a spawn elég random módon történik, és úgy tudom nem is lehet beállítani, hogy pontosan hova tegye le ezeket a járműveket.
@transportchannel4757
@transportchannel4757 5 жыл бұрын
Nekeem egyáltalán nem rakja le a pályámon:(
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Raktál le belépési pontot, ugye?
@transportchannel4757
@transportchannel4757 5 жыл бұрын
Persze! Megnéztem egy külföldi videót ő úgy csinálta, hogy a sín melletti útra rakta a belépési pontot. De nekem egyáltalán nem megy:-( szerintem én vagyok a béna.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Őszintén szólva én nem próbáltam ilyesmit, tudván, hogy az OMSI nem teljesen támogatja a vezethető kötöttpályás járműveket. De biztosan megoldható, hiszen vannak rá példák. Én javasolnám, hogy kérdezz rá fórumon, vagy Facebook csoportokban.
@szili0074
@szili0074 5 жыл бұрын
Legyen még videó!
@szili0074
@szili0074 5 жыл бұрын
Már egy ideje nincs.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Kéne... De miről? 🤔
@szili0074
@szili0074 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Mondjuk Szegedről már van map. Talán egy kis Szegedi villamos. Nem tudom van-e busz meg troli a pályához, de az is tök jó lenne!
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
A látottak alapján ez a Szeged téma elég messze van a késztől.
@lkn332
@lkn332 5 жыл бұрын
Lesz győri pálya az omsi 2 bem?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Nem valószínű.
@omsi2player747
@omsi2player747 5 жыл бұрын
No the keyboard??
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
You have to find the trigger for the 3rd door and assign a key to it. It differs from bus to bus, but be sure to check manual first.
@masterdisaster7590
@masterdisaster7590 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man! I got a I5 4690, 16GB DDR3 and a RX Vega 56. Maybe your pc is a little to old or you have the wrong specs. I run the game at 60 or more. Also it isn't 64bit yet.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to LOTUS?
@masterdisaster7590
@masterdisaster7590 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres Yes referring to LOTUS. Also the FPS differs sometimes without a clear reason.
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Your point about my PC is valid, kind of. I built it a bit more than 5 years ago using a now 6 years old architecture, with the only upgrades being an SSD and a new graphics card. As much as it hurts to admit, it's starting to show its age. However, what I'm not willing to just let go - and I'm kind of hung up on this - is that LOTUS' looks just can't justify the poor performance, because it's only good looking if you compare it to OMSI. 30-40 fps on the test map with no traffic, pedestrians, passengers or even working mirrors?! And even though it's an early access title, the game itself has been in development since before its announcement, which was in October 2015. I'm afraid it's going to be like OMSI, that if you want smooth gameplay, you're going to need overkill hardware. I'm not particularly okay with that to be honest, but let's hope I'm wrong here. Also the choice of graphics API is still baffling me. Why OpenGL? AMD graphics cards are struggling with OpenGL. I tried LOTUS on a similar setup with a bit slower CPU and a GTX 960, and on the same settings and resolution, it was running at 60 frames per second most of the time. Phew... sorry about the rant. Thanks for your comment nevertheless, and enjoy your Vega. 😉
@masterdisaster7590
@masterdisaster7590 5 жыл бұрын
Well 100% you're right about the AMD Part tho. My I5 4690 is just one Generation newer then yours. Also my GPU is a little bit better then a 1070Ti. At this moment the game is only 32bit. Which means the game can only use 4GB of ram. With the 64bit version the game can take much more and much faster RAM. I'm building my own map with LOTUS and it works pretty well. Only a high load of bushes and trees will drop performance. Maybe tweaking some settings in your AMD Graphics will make some wonders? You can also contact me at the LOTUS forum or Stream IGN TheMasterOfDisaster.
@zsolt.7754
@zsolt.7754 5 жыл бұрын
lesz olyan videó ahol beszélsz?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Elképzelhető, de az fix, hogy nem ilyen let's play stílusú lesz. 😅
@zsolt.7754
@zsolt.7754 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres ok
@hunorbuday1164
@hunorbuday1164 5 жыл бұрын
Csal ez az egy típus érhető el?
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Tudtommal igen.
@hunorbuday1164
@hunorbuday1164 5 жыл бұрын
Kösz!
@giuseppegiordano4724
@giuseppegiordano4724 4 жыл бұрын
ciao dove posso comprarlo per favore il gioco?
@routeres
@routeres 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, OMSI 2 is available on Steam: store.steampowered.com/app/252530/OMSI_2_Steam_Edition/
@poznanskiszybkowiec_official
@poznanskiszybkowiec_official 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT IS THIS!!!
@TransportSimulatorNationTSN
@TransportSimulatorNationTSN 5 жыл бұрын
Stop uploading what happened
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
I have a full-time job which doesn't leave much free time (and energy) for making videos. 😅
@TransportSimulatorNationTSN
@TransportSimulatorNationTSN 5 жыл бұрын
@@routeres ok
@bencegyors
@bencegyors 5 жыл бұрын
helló magyar
@routeres
@routeres 5 жыл бұрын
Na, így se köszöntek még rám az interneten.
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