On Canadian Euthanasia Laws

Universal healthcare - where EVERYBODY gets to die!
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[@superamanda]

Your usage of the R word is foul.

[@JM-cl7pl]

@@ShortFatOtaku the based department is calling

[@Bitchesaintshitbutgoodpeople]

@@ShortFatOtaku based as fuck

[@UlulvarCape]

Why? Are you the retard police?

[@shady5612]

rip bozo

[@codyconnor6981]

You being offended for others is foul.

[@Bashmaster24]

"we are the carbon they want to reduce."

[@SkylineFTW97]

But if you don't log off the Minecraft server, you'll make little Greta sad!

[@GeneralProfessor]

No humans = no pollution

[@WolfPlayz294]

You people are so lost lol

[@bobdike1850]

@@SkylineFTW97 i will force little greta to log off first

[@bobdike1850]

@@WolfPlayz294 a blind mans opinion is worth more than a fools, you sir are a fool as even the blind man can see the writing on the wall (not like the WEF is hiding it they are literally saying this shit in public)

[@NinaONO001]

There is a game called "divinity: dragon commander" from 2013, where you can legalize assisted suicide and you get a newspaper article named "doctors can now kill off annoying patients" which is demoralizing seeing that its coming to real life

[@herogiant1500]

"All in the name of bringing down the cost of medical care, because you won't be alive to need any." -Thomas Sowell

[@remyllebeau77]

It's for the greater good, the good of the collective. Resistance is futile!

[@l0lLorenzol0l]

Mexican Healthcare: *Die in the waiting line. Get a call your X-Ray request was approved 2 years after your broken leg healed* American Healthcare: "Yes the accident was bad but we have fixed your leg and you can walk again. That will be 700k USD please." Canadian Healthcare: "You have broken a leg? Well, suffer not the lame horse" *cocks revolver*

[@dnidaz2553]

Healthcare is fucked everywhere

[@lesthodson2802]

I got in an accident and broke my leg. Spent $500 bucks all in. X-ray, cast, followup, etc. American healthcare is nowhere near as expensive as people think it is, and the truly outrageous costs are outliers. The US has the best healthcare system in the world, bar none, and while it may cost a fraction more than a lot of other places at least you can get healthcare when you need it.

[@rorrim0]

@@lesthodson2802 this is what i try to convince people who are on the universal healthcare camp. They however believe that because opting out of paying for health care and taking a major health risk, or going into some debt are terrible options that forcing everyone to pay into a system is the right choice, because having no choice is better then having bad choices. Even as i tell them your going to just shoulder that debt overtime, they think having the debt thrown at them all at once, even though its only when you need it, is worse then paying more then that debt many times over in small increments over your whole life.

[@markzuckergecko621]

I've heard it stated that healthcare can be 3 things: cheap, easily available, and high quality. But you can only have 2, you have to sacrifice at least one of those things in order to have the other 2, and any attempt to have all 3 will inevitably lead to having none. Right now, American healthcare is easily available and high quality, but it's not cheap.

[@Jetiix]

@@lesthodson2802 my friend got his left leg turned into pixie dust and had to pay more than 100k though his insurance covered most of it.

[@dandandandandanJr]

As a registered organ donar, that Guy up there talking about pulling organs from a still living person make me want to opt out right now. I want them to do everything possible to keep me alive, not say "it's too much work" and yank out a fleshy stack of cash.

[@GabrielTobing]

Thats what they do though

[@huanquocmanh416]

ALWAYS OPT OUT NEVER GIVE THEM A FKN SINGLE.THING BUT YOUR CONTEMPT

[@dandandandandanJr]

@@GabrielTobing Currently, yes. But if this whole thing has show us anything they will push things as far as they will go, especially where there's money involved. This talk is EXACTLY why people are hesitant about organ donation. When it's okay to remove organs from one still living person, it's not a huge step to remove it from another. Especially when you're not awake to say no.

[@lazgmr4746]

up until the point that they had the guy talking about harvesting organs from living people I was considering euthanasia for multiple reasons, now I just want to set the people responsible on fire

[@banbrado28]

I had a friend who's uncle was a first responder type, he made his family all opt out of being organ donars. I never got the reason why, but he was serious enough about it to get me to opt out too. This was 15ish years ago.

[@raidmaster6879]

People forget that in America many years ago, you could barter with your doctor about how much to pay for service, then insurance demanded that doctors give the same price even if the patient was not insured, which meant that doctors could no longer give any discount to poorer people or those who had unique problems.

[@Niyucuatro]

Canadian doctors trying to make people to log off minecraft is disgusting.

[@SkylineFTW97]

They're sick of the long queue times and want priority server access for themselves

[@williamarthur6644]

Doctor: Have you thought about quitting the server? Patient: In minecraft? Doctor: NO, IN REAL LIFE

[@tumamaencosplay]

Honestly you can't possibly outlaw suicide, so there is no real reason to actually legalize it. Especially, there is no real reason to ever make doctors do it on any other context but terminal illness. If your suffering, mental and/or physical, is not so unbearable you can do it yourself, then you shouldn't be having somebody else do it for you, there might be hope for you yet. Merely legalizing its assistance leads to tons of more people dying to suicide than reasonably ever should.

[@GrimReaperNegi]

And this has been happening for several years? How many stories are either unheard, or have ended within the shadows?

[@GravelordNEETo]

@@tumamaencosplay Doing it yourself likely involves a much more painful and messier method and someone will have to clean that up. Doing it in a clinical setting is just more humane.

[@popopopoqwerty]

>give government more power >government starts to abuse it Working like a clock.

[@remyllebeau77]

It's not a bug, it is a feature.

[@samfire3067]

​@@remyllebeau77EA and blizard: *drinks breast milk *

[@voskresenie-]

That's funny, because my clocks if anything slow down over time instead of rapidly accelerating.

[@MahDryBread]

Hell yeah, Dev shout out! And don't even get me started on Canadian Healthcare. I'm over 2 months into being too sick to work and I'm still waiting on my endocrinologist appointment. The comedy of errors I've gone through just to get the appointment booked would be hilarious if I wasn't worried about my health and finances while waiting

[@lordmcsmith]

Hey MDB! I've been catching up on a lot of your old videos since you got taken out of commission. Really hope you're able to get the care you need soon. You're one of the last proper LP-ers out there, and the internet really needs you.

[@willow1698]

Ohhh that's what he was saying lol I couldn't understand what he was saying at around 15:10

[@TheBigAEC]

8:30 Gubberment: You seem suicidal, let's get you some help buddy. Also Goobermint: **Loads Shotgun** Shame. 😔

[@littlemisseevee2309]

thats the help

[@cthomaspeasant3059]

Funny how I've been lectured by others about how superior and better Canada was and this only pokes a massive hole in that myth.

[@drugsarebad97]

Only Canadians will say that. You don’t see any other countries talk good about them lmao

[@LetterSignedBy51SpiesWasA-Coup]

@@drugsarebad97 most Dems will tell you how great Canadian healthcare is, without ever having experienced it, as an argument for nationalized healthcare.

[@117Ender]

@@drugsarebad97 lol what? sargon speaks ill of the nhs, his national healthcare service, literally all ppl who are awate mention how if govt provides a way for consequences to be avoided, if you want healthcare, then govt should have ppl wake up at 5, go to formation at 6 in a local park, take attendance, break them down in ages and fitness, and do physical training like the army does, thats bronze level healthcare, silver is eating right and not smoking/drinking, gold is 5 yrs of silver. and i bet real quick ppl either get healthy or realize they can spend money to indulge, cause everything is a trade off.

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@drugsarebad97 American leftists frequently cite Canada as a reason we should have "free" healthcare.

[@CoryTheRaven]

This part sucks, but, lol, Canada is still better :D

[@ianjoel9341]

The canada slander will continue until morale improves

[@oldluke7653]

Or you could take the easy way out

[@kavky]

It's not slander if it's true.

[@Y2KNW]

Canuckistani health care: "I'm free!" Also Canuckistani health care: "You can either spend 16 hours on the floor of Emergency or we can just MAID you right now, lol!"

[@Sk0lzky]

And it's still paid for!

[@anguishedcarpet]

Shit that's more than I get now lol

[@Y2KNW]

@@Sk0lzky "You paid a shitload in taxes for care over the course of your life but I'm afraid that when you need the system most, all we can offer you is a noose!"

[@CountArtha]

You didn’t pay taxes to get care. They pretended to give you care so they could tax you.

[@Y2KNW]

@@CountArtha We were paying taxes before 'universal' health care came along.

[@sleepparalysisatthewheel5101]

Funny, I remember 10-20 years ago, being told that 'Death Panels' were a slippery slope boogeyman that would never happen.

[@huanquocmanh416]

Slippery slope is a tactic

[@alnu8355]

I myself was so skeptical of such. Hell, I might have been one of the people who was so arrogant and trusting of government who thought "tHaT wOuLd NeVeR hApPeN! DUUURRRR! nOw GiVe Me MaH FREE SHIT!" Holy shit, I feel so embarrassed and aweful for my naivete. I vow to NEVER be that stupid again.

[@JodyBruchon]

When I was a kid and the Kevorkian controversy was going on, I had a hard time understanding why everyone was so angry at youth in Asia.

[@markzuckergecko621]

I had a middle school project where we were supposed to write an essay about our position on a hot button topic off of a provided list, I remember the teacher mentioning euthenasia and I thought "what the hell, are there like gangs of Japanese teenagers terrorizing the country or something?"🤣🤣

[@NekoBoyOfficial]

Well, they use to have a lot of children over there.

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

"Youth in Asia" was the reason for Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

[@godsamongmen8003]

I remember Kevorkian being tried, while I was a teenager in the 90s. I was a big supporter of him at the time, and in principle I still am. I can sympathize with a terminal cancer patient who has a year to live, and that year will be in constant pain. But once you open the door, how do you stop the abuse we're seeing here and now?

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

@@godsamongmen8003 You can start by taking the power of funding away from the state.

[@jimpraxis3878]

As a lawyer, hearing a judge even question whether they should recuse themselves with that kind of personal attachment makes me livid. Judges are meant to suspend their human emotion and apply the law

[@addex1236]

I come from white trash say that proudly and understand that on the bench a judge is voice of the law and a human second that's why it's a civil duty

[@nickwilliamson6726]

One short step from "you don't have the right to live."

[@MoustachioFurioso83]

One little step away from removing the "undesirables" in a completely moral way.

[@GANTZ100pts]

And all the while the left cheering it on saying, "it's for the greater good".

[@ulaznar]

It starts with "No one has the right to be born" as I've seen pro-choice people saying

[@remyllebeau77]

Who is surprised when you don't have the right to defend your own life? Being skinned alive is too good of a fate for trudeau and friends.

[@ulaznar]

@@MoustachioFurioso83 'eat the poor' might get real. The only thing needed is to challenge the assumption that eating human flesh is taboo

[@Doc-Holliday1851]

This is what happens in all socialized healthcare systems. The moment the government is in charge of rationing care people just become numbers on a page and those numbers add up fast. The solution every single system ends up coming to is “those who fall outside the bounds of the designated amount of rationed care need to go.” Which is horrible because those are the exact kinds of people everyone who believes in socialized healthcare claims to want to help.

[@mellykyay]

I'm a weeb so I always support youth in asia

[@yvanthedrakon]

🤣

[@gamermoment656]

Is it bad I read that in Vanilla's voice?

[@markzuckergecko621]

Lmao, I remember being in middle school, and we were supposed to write an essay about our position on political topics, we were given a list of options. And I remember thinking "youth in Asia, what's the issue with that?"🤣

[@vinny1773]

Youthanasia

[@ALulzyApprentice]

I snorted! LOL XD

[@MultiKeto]

why do people believe making something part of the state takes out the profit motive?

[@markzuckergecko621]

Because they're stupid.

[@MultiKeto]

@@markzuckergecko621 looks that way.

[@crazycoffee]

I lost one of my best friends to suicide. Still fucks me up thinking about it. His little brother and I are still best friends. I'm surprised there hasn't been riots over MAIDs. They seem to be squeezing all the resources out of the poor. Then saying hey look this is legal and you won't have all the extra hospital debt we piled on you!

[@TwoDollarGararge]

the medical debt may carry over to the next living in line like student loans

[@Emppu_T.]

It's not the poor who riot

[@TheHulkbuster13]

I live in Canada, and I was sicken at hearing about these euthanasia a couple weeks ago, and I think my last tiny slight bit of respect for my government died. this is basically an inverse of the Purge film series.

[@maggiem6209]

The organ donor thing reminds me of a comment my history professor made, "Obviously, the Aztecs were a very advanced people for their time, but they were also capable of horrible barbarism. Like human sacrifice." Funny how that works, isn't it?

[@natasjaaitchison4409]

This is scary. I had a major stroke. While in a haze of pain I near enough begged nurses to euthanise me. Nice to know in Canada I’d be snug and 6-foot under 😰

[@DrakesdenChannel]

I live in Croatia, I am Croatian, and for the past two years, I have been having health issues. Currently, after finally figuring out via many tests that I have high calcium and high PTH, tests not recommended to me by the doctor but a necessity realized by myself, I've been scheduled for an endocrinologist 10 months from now. Public health is an incredibly inefficient system for anyone that does not have a clear issue. The most common cause of my issues is a tumor. I'm left uncertain. Throughout this, I was constantly misdiagnosed and uncontacted. I'm not even going to mention the state of the actual hospitals and other malpractice.

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

Yeah, I think you've knocked it out of the park for a Halloween video. This shit actually has me wanting to run for my damn life.... Strange how reality is more frightening than any ghost story you'll hear.

[@elusivemayfly7534]

Ghost stories have some sort of order, an internal sense of logic. This is so out-of-whack that the senselessness of it is scary

[@simonpetrikov3992]

@@elusivemayfly7534 like cosmic horror?

[@elusivemayfly7534]

@@simonpetrikov3992 That’s a good insight! That makes me want to listen to some good cosmic horror today. I’m already wearing a costume I’m calling “hipster witch” so I may as well

[@simonpetrikov3992]

@@elusivemayfly7534 I feel like when you deconstruct cosmic horror that those stories derive their scare from the senseless of it because of the fact that the senselessness of it warps your preconceived notions of how the world works and that how it truly works is unknown to you and it triggers the instinctual fear of the unknown because you don’t truly understand how it all works and what truly lurks in the proverbial darkness there’s a quote from a show that reminds me of this “In the universe before the Big Bang there was nothing and before that nothing there were monsters”

[@elusivemayfly7534]

@@simonpetrikov3992 That is really well-said, and I totally agree. In some cosmic horror stories, there may be a sense that there’s some type of order to the universe, but it is far too big to grasp and far too alien to to make any sense of. Then others are even scarier, in that there seems to be no discernible structure to reality at all. In either case, cosmic horror takes away the comfort of meaning, including human significance. Your analogy is spot on-that is how the topic of Dev’s video feels. You are a very good writer! Do you like to write?

[@conserva-chan2735]

Man, it's never felt so good/terrifying to be a conservative

[@doggo6517]

Aye, the Slippery Slope was never a fallacy

[@dougneon9550]

The libertarians predict it, the conservatives sift through the psychosis to find statements that make sense... I'm still betting on robot apocalypse

[@MALICEM12]

​@@dougneon9550 the great war will come before completely automation

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@doggo6517 indeed.

[@ColcaadaSmith]

God you people are so dumb

[@OhRaez]

I have a friend/family friend of mine named Kiano, and his story was even covered by Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson, which is absolutely surreal to me. But, he did not care about himself for a while, did not take care of his diabetes, and smoked copius amounts of weed. He also had manic episodes and mental health issues. He did not take care of his diabetes for so long, he began to lose his vision. When he turned to doctors, they had recommended the option of killing himself if he did not like losing his vision (which was reversible, by the way). He then applied at St.Michaels in Toronto for euthanasia, where a doctor approved of his application within a few days, and his death date was set last month. His own parents didn't even know about this until they had used his computer, and saw his email was open with a euthanasia request approval. Due to pushback from parents (mine included), the doctor backed away, and now it is pending for another doctor to usurp the role. The sole fact that these health specialists and our healthcare systems enables this is egregious to me. Something reversible, and something inflicted unto him (like his depression due to lockdowns), is now the justified reason to ending his life.

[@AgnumMD]

Immediately after the video an ad played that started "In order to achieve zero poverty, it takes more than hopes and dreams..." It's like the AI algorithm knows exactly what it's doing.

[@Anoncore1]

During coved, they told patient , if you take medicine or treatment ,as in cancer treatment , dialysis , they told elder they will NOT BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR FAMILY ,BUT IF THEY TAKE THE NEEDLE ,THEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR CHILDREN BEFORE THEY INJECT , KILLING HUNDREDS ! One of which was my father !

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

Just say the word and we'll come liberate you and your sweet sweet oil

[@10010110100102Error]

@@theeccentrictripper3863 in 2011/2012 i would have objected to that. right now, though, liberation by the usa, specifically the freeer states like texas and florida with a thirty to fourty year occupation to change or at least impact culture, would be the superior option. but the russians wouldn't like that arctic border with the usa, so you'd either have to establish an independant inuit nation in the north, or you can braze for a war with russia and china, potentially some south american nations as well. so be carefull when you liberate them, else you'd pay a pretty high price.

[@theeccentrictripper3863]

@@10010110100102Error We already have claims in the Arctic thanks to Alaska and that's closer to Russia than Canada, it's not like we're gonna invade across the North Pole lol. Gotta say though, an Inuit puppet state in the North Pole sounds like the kind of memetastic nation I'd forge in a 4X paradox game, I'm down, so long as we keep the resources.

[@donalddubh9653]

Thank you for making this video. I live in Scotland and we have a growing movement for legalised euthanasia and I've cited the cases you've mentioned to friends, family and others in hope of helping people see the dangers of this. You are far more eloquent than I so this will help. Cheers my dude.

[@Ranatosk]

This reminds me of the death booth in Futurama honestly, just pop in a quarter and... “Congratulations, you are now dead.”

[@MARfilms]

When did Low Tier God become head of the Canadian Healthcare System. Very impressive, guy really gotten up in the world.

[@altythebalty6011]

🤣

[@SwiftSwrd]

I think something like this isn't an accident, isn't a "wrong turn", it's an inevitable consequence of/reaction to the unsustainable economic reality of universal healthcare; especially considering the abuses facilitated by completely removing the price system. Something given has no value. I've heard way too many stories, and seen a lot of situations myself, of people flooding the healthcare system over every little thing, or even doing daily doctor visits as a social thing because they don't have to pay anything to do so. I've seen way too many people spend years as prediabetics that just let themselves develop diabetes and cost the taxpayer even more than they already were just due to obesity, because they weren't paying a cent of the medical costs and thus didn't care enough. Japan's system is 70% coverage; nothing's free, and paying that 30% alone seems to be enough to prevent people from engaging in the worst abuses, or disregarding personal healthy lifestyle choices. When there's a lot less strain on the already strained budget coming from the medical sector, there's a lot less economic incentive to "cut costs" there. And with all that said, this is yet another reason in the pile of "Why I don't want to live in this country anymore."

[@LegionHimself]

This is the end result of materialism and secularism: nothing is sacred; people are bodies.

[@bobdike1850]

maybe destroying the family unit and making the elderly the states problem was a mistake?

[@Pyrotrainthing]

That VAC story got me angry when I heard it, VAC's appropriate action was to make the lady that suggested it not work for a few days, and let her go back to working again, don't know if that's actually what happened but that's what I heard so it could be false.

[@spudeism]

Perhaps certain canadian politicians should receive MAID assistance delivered by an angry mob.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

the endgame is polite rivals and inconvenients being suicided, and everyone being to terrified in politics to say anything as a chilling effect occurs, loud dissidents one by one get very depressed behind closed doors and apply for MAID

[@remyllebeau77]

It's like hillary clinton healthcare, but more institutionalized.

[@DanielPage]

Excellent video Dev. Yeah, the combination of COVID-19 policy mismanagement/hysteria in the long-term and economic tanking mixed with this is definitely going to be a huge problem going forward.

[@garlowloke]

Notice how the doctors don’t say the full term, they just say “assisted…” if you can’t bring yourself to say the procedure you probably shouldn’t perform it.

[@TheARMichJFrog]

Imagine going back in time 100 years and telling people "Hey, in 100 years medicine will be so good that we can safely let you roblox yourself!" Rediculous.

[@mrshmuga9]

More like, “In 100 years, medication will be so bad/expensive that you’re better of offing yourself.”

[@roonkolos]

Guess it can now be called a Hypocrite's Oath knowing how this shit is going

[@MoonPhantom]

Yeah..... This is the dark side of socialised health care. They will try to do stuff like this to safe money. Here in Denmark, it is normal that women who are pregnant with disabled children are encouraged to abort this child. And it's in these cases that even late term abortion is not only legal, but encouraged. And from the perspective of social wellphare Denmark, it makes sense. Because that child will now be on the state, and the state will have to care for that child for its entire life. Still.... Late term abortion is directly encouraged just because the child MAY have a disability... That's the dark side of social health care.

[@FilmFlam-8008]

2023 Canada: dying affirmative care

[@py_a_thon]

There is no way for me to properly say what I want to say. So I will tread water instead. There is value to the future. Your life is valuable. Fighting to stay alive is a noble act. No one should tell you when you should become nothing. Be something for as long as you wish to, and hopefully the world can find ways to help and protect those who need or want help and protection. Peace.

[@khatharrmalkavian3306]

10:40 "How the hell did we get here?" Socialism.

[@johnschimcat758]

All the things that pro-euthenasia claimed wouldn't happen have happened. What a shock.

[@ferdinandcountfathom9298]

A "cell phoned" individual? Oh, a self-owned individual!

[@aloan-freefreeloner]

there's the colombian necktie, the russian smile, and now the canadian maid.

[@maxkore278]

judges may be human, but professional's leave their baggage at home

[@littlemisseevee2309]

what I love about these vids is it gets me to think in ways I normally wouldnt, which makes it easier to rethink things I believe with new things to consider, like the making drugs legal, I never considered that when advocation for the legalization and taxation of drugs

[@readingmachinenegi]

"reducing carbon" they said.....

[@Pers0n97]

0:52 [insert transitioning surgery parallel here]

[@RobzdaBlade]

Dying for the right to live. This is what it's like to live in Ontario. Either your dying to live, or ur dying on some form of medication...

[@video-synth]

What a depressing state to live in. 😔

[@joshuarichardson6529]

They warned us this would happen 30 years ago, when Kevorkian first started this psychopathy.

[@CountArtha]

People respond to incentives - and that makes assisted suicide terrifying.

[@OperatorKaz]

I never want to hear a Canadian talk about our US healthcare ever again.

[@edfmed1080]

Did Nurgle spare you? Finally.

[@Stedman75]

okay, this is so extremely.. unbelieveably evil that I actually was sat watching through the gaps in my fingers.

[@iOSAT]

So I used to work for a major medical device company - we had purchased a Canadian sterilizer company right before I joined, which turned out to be a fucking disaster. It took nearly 3 years fix the damn things with the resources of one of the largest medical device companies in the world. Well, despite how poorly these sterilizers worked, the Canadian government had already placed them in every facility they could throughout Canada, including some of the most remote healthcare facilities in North America - well a STERILIZER(!!) is an extremely critical piece of infrastructure in the workflow of a hospital or surgery center. So these facilities were relying on sterilizers that either didn’t work or were constantly broken down and needs specialty parts and repairs from a technician, who would travel for a day or more just to diagnose the problem.

[@TheUltimateHum]

Is it just me or calling a suicide service something as pure-sounding as "MAID" is exactly what is portrayed in every dystopian future story? Am I the only one who finds this unsettling to say the least?

[@zombiemanjosh]

Speaking of MDB and the "healthcare" system, he's been suffering and dealing with their snail's pace and incompetence.

[@muskendos7522]

Literally hearing these guys ask him to Minecraft himself in the nicest way possible is the creepiest shit I have ever seen Also I hope this shows that while yes, Canadian healthcare has its positives, it has a ton of dark sides, mainly hidden fees, long wait times, lacking resources and euthanasia options being given out like candy

[@ALulzyApprentice]

This is incredibly insane! How the hell did we get here?

[@huanquocmanh416]

U let jews do as they please ;)

[@CarbonatedGravy]

Whatever you say about american healthcare, that’s really shockingly dark to hear a doctor talk like that let alone this many examples. In america we all get annual training courses to hammer it into our heads the boundaries you have with patients and that their choices are to be respected etc. Pushing and even trying to GUILT patients into assisted suicide!? Doing that to someone with depression? Where the entire purpose of treatment is to prevent that outcome?? That’s seriously horrifying to see happening even in a western country like canada

[@kerwinbrown4180]

Truck- kun carries medical supplies for Canada. Who knew?

[@Monsuco]

I would just like to emphasize that American healthcare does not let people die due to inability to pay. Healthcare expenses can indeed bankrupt people who can't afford it here but hospitals are legally required to treat you regardless of whether or not you can pay.

[@bobdike1850]

thats the catch most people dont get "medical debts are dischargable under bankruptcy" you get to keep your fucking house even if you declare bankruptcy, if you have kids and give all of your shit to them it cant be touched.

[@Monsuco]

@@bobdike1850 It's still a terrible black mark against American healthcare that medical bankruptcy is as common as it is. My point is hospitals will always try to save your life and most give away millions in charity care annually. They might sue you afterwards over your debt but they always try to save lives.

[@TOUGHEYES]

The Atheist concept that the soul does not exist is the perfect basis for starting down the line of materialistic thought. And it's usually something thought and kept to by soulless people, if this is their ultimate designs for the world.

[@jakelee7083]

What percentage of these "live organs" will be given to Canadian citizens? Nobody even questions that the government won't just sell them to the highest bidder in a foreign country, ironically spitting in the face of "universal healthcare."

[@dragonturtle2703]

The problem with the new incentives argument is that, the logical conclusion is to outlaw anything negative for an individual or society as the government decrees.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

Trimming Margins is the same thing as maximizing profits; until the government totally enslaves healthcare providers - there will always be monetary incentive.

[@RolanDorf]

Fucking hell, Dev. The bit about death via organ donation was chilling. Moreso after spending so much time on the financial benefits to the government. Its a long way from "90 days delinquent gets you Repo treatment," but who knows? Maybe the only thing in the way of that is lack of corporate infrastructure.

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

State-funded health care does not create unlimited health care resources. It simply shifts the allocation of existing resources to the hands of those not directly affected. It then decides how providers are paid, lowering incentive to provide health care in that system. It's an unsustainable system.

[@Disasterpotato]

One additional note, that may not be related, but Beverly McLachlin is now a CCP judge in Hong Kong, she would have been selected by the CCP to work against the Hong Kong people.

[@punishedfink]

With UHC is funeral costs also covered, because if not it seems really fucked up for the people that have to deal with government aftermath of assisted euthanasia.

[@blackcitadel9]

Since when did Canada become Rimworld?

[@CheetahFoxx]

"Sorry, Margo, Nobody will touch you now. Death by vivisection!" (Bang) -from Spicy City

[@Galgus2000]

People respond to incentives, and when the patient is a pure cost people will want them to no longer be patients. Governments have intentionally cartelized Healthcare to be needlessly expensive.

[@itachi60001]

this is dystopian holy shit

[@ahel4523]

This is a trial for global distribution. Watch as Australian public healthcare standards decline and efforts to push MAID or some Australian BS is pushed.

[@jamescoomber3419]

Oh good, more affirmative care.

[@craigjovanovich6450]

Keep making arguments why Universal Healthcare is shit, Dev. Doing a great job.

[@HereTakeAFlower]

I think it's good, as long as you (state) are mindful of what you fund.

[@ALulzyApprentice]

Universal Healthcare could work. If only our species did not use money and was more compassionately self-actualized.

[@HereTakeAFlower]

@@ALulzyApprentice it works. The quality is low but for low risk/urgency operations is all right. The most expensive stuff is usually not all that fast to get, but other than that, it's not SO bad.

[@GSPfan2112]

It all stems from the acceptance of French philosophy at a political level. France is a living example of surviving in spite of awful philosophy. Theyre lucky to be surrounded by relatively competent neighbors.

[@benszekely4336]

Ya'know, I wonder what'll happen if someone like the Black Hammers would get a white man's heart in an organ replacement.

[@duncangriffiths4399]

It’s kind of to be expected. When there’s no profit, the tax revenue from people who actually pay it has been removed, of course they will do this.

[@hhuodod2209]

Looking forward to sending people on their way. 🎉

[@OuroborosChoked]

Universal healthcare is so good, people are dying to get out of it.

[@jpwright87]

At the very least, assisted suicide should be suggested as an option around the same time that exorcism is brought up as an option. If someone wants to die that bad, I'm pretty sure they'll be the ones to bring it up, no?

[@thepeskyblackcat9922]

Of course the government would do the "easier" option. Less of a pain in the ass after all, to cover up or pay out.

[@lordshell]

Trust the government to have a complete monopoly over your healthcare. All will be fine.

[@sylviamontaez3889]

10:35 a good example is from britain. as someone who lives in the uk, I can confirm that our National Health Service has been hollowed out by the government for the past 12 years

[@BlueBD]

Euthanasia should never be on the table for all but terminal cases. AKA you already dying and its incurable and treatment is ineffective. And even then, It should never be encouraged. You should instead always be given the care needed to live. Anyone caught devalueing and mistreatment inorder to encourge euthanasia should be charged with a murder charge or Conspiracy to murder, cause Your actions are directly responsible for it.

[@ImperialistJoe]

"Can we 'ave your liver, then?"

[@joachimvzm4274]

10:00 A side-issue created by the so-called removal of financial incentive is also that it creates financial incentive on the part of the government. Much as we might be appalled by treating patients as a source of profit, it's also an incentive - however thin - to ensure you live and continue to be a customer. Government enterprises do not operate on profit, meaning everyone who takes part in them are a liability by default. A lot of scandals involving wait times center on this, as more than once socialized health systems have been caught deliberately delaying life-saving operations in the hope that the patient dies, saving the state a lot of money in the process. Essentially making it legal for government health services to drive their patients into...well...the word that YT doesn't like, only worsens this problem a thousandfold.

[@cirelesten]

2016!?....glad I'm only finding out now

[@kushine_]

Didn't knew LTG are running Canadian Hospitals now

[@thehumblenarcissist2799]

As someone who has dealt with the urge to minecraft myself for most of my life the Canadian healthcare system makes me sick...

[@ThatFalloutGod]

Canadian healthcare isn’t “free,” they pay asininely higher taxes for it and the quality pales in comparison to what you can and could get with just the Free Market doing its job. The argument for universal healthcare falls flat on its face, not only because of the realities of the results, but because those who argue for it can’t explain why and how it’s not just like any other good and service, because it’s impossible to do so. And no, the financial incentives aren’t alleviated with government-ran facilities, they still exist, arguably to a larger degree. There’s a reason government-ran facilities are always worse than those ran by people and companies in the market. The latter forces people to care about their own shit. Someone employed by the government doesn’t have to care about that at all.

[@Doc-Holliday1851]

16:40 Dev seems to have a serious problem. He can go through every reason why the thing he is discussing is wrong but then say “I’m still in favor of it.” This is the issue with the secular liberal mindset. They can explain why a thing is totally wrong, but because they lack any form of foundational belief, they lack the ability to actually condemn the thing itself, they can only condemn the outcome. This mindset is the reason we keep falling down the slippery slope. We have a bunch of people who recognize that something is wrong, but because they don’t have any foundations they can’t stand against the push to implement these things.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

yes because it doesn't HAVE to be this way. not everybody who gets drunk is a raging rapist, that's why alcohol is legal and should be. we don't automatically have to indulge in every excess.

[@Doc-Holliday1851]

@@ShortFatOtaku but in order to say r*pe is wrong, you need limiting factors. A secular liberal mindset doesn’t provide limiting factors. There’s no foundation for your moral compass and so in the end you would be willing to justify anything, at least in principle if not necessarily practice, if someone was able to argue that it was beneficial or “liberating” in some way.

[@Doc-Holliday1851]

“Identification with evil” 11:05-11:19 “Even if we don’t have a good grasp of what morality is, and I know I certainly don’t. There is at least something that is objectively good out there. I couldn’t define it for you if you asked me, but I think I know it when I see it.” This is exactly what I’m saying. You have an intrinsic ability to identify bad things, but you lack the ability to actually say what that is. As a result, people who can define what good and bad are, even if they do so superficially or inconsistently, have an inherent advantage over you and will overtake you in a moral argument because when you get down to the basis for each of your respective moral systems, they will have the ability to ground their argument in something and your argument will crumble under its own weight. Secular liberalism has proven itself over the last century and a half to be the downfall of enlightened societies. You are contributing to our downfall by refusing to ground yourself.