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We met Norm Schwab, co-founder of acclaimed US-based design studio Lightswitch - which celebrated its 30th year in 2023 - at the 64-Leg Ranch in Petaluma, California. We heard about Norm’s incredible lighting design education at Carnegie Mellen University and his equally impressive experiences on the road where he fell in love with rock ‘n roll! His career is now enriched by working across multiple lighting and show disciplines with talented teams of creatives and technical specialists … producing spectacular shows. We encountered some of the 64 legs during the interview!