ON1 PHOTO RAW 2025 VS LUMINAR NEO 1.21. WHICH HAS THE BETTER GENERATIVE ERASE?

[@sounderdavis5446]

Agreed on the conclusions. Though I have current licenses for both ON1 and Neo, I wouldn't use Gen Erase in either one. As an Adobe Photography Plan subscriber, Photoshop's local-based Remove Tool is the best way to go, although I'm not testing it on faces or fingers--very tough. In the 10% of images where Remove Tool fails, PS's web-based Generative Fill usually gets it done. ON1 and Neo will get better. Adobe has a 2-year head start at this.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Yes. Hard to beat Adobe when it comes to Generative AI

[@skyking95]

While I use both ON1 and occasionally use Luminar Neo I found when using ON1 I’ll round trip to Photoshop. With Luminar Neo I didn’t have to round trip. So, I concur with your results Luminar is the best.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Thanks for your feedback. What was the purpose of the round trip to photoshop?

[@skyking95]

I subscribe to the photo package as I use photoshop for non photo projects so in using ON1 if I want to use GenExpand or erase I’ll just round trip to Photoshop. No reason to use ON1’s subscription server since I already pay for Photoshop (I don’t use Lightroom). I was a bit surprised Luminar Neo. Performed better than StabilityAI from ON1.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

ok thanks for the explanation. I understand what you say if you use Photoshop you wouldn't need ON1. But what makes you prefer ON1 over Lightroom?

[@cdoug-1]

I have both On1 and Neo. While I seldom have a need to erase items in photos, in testing more complex landscape edits, Neo has outperformed On1's Local Gen AI erase (in fact, on one complicated landscape photo I tested, On1's perfect eraser did a better job than Local Gen AI). For me, On1's Stability AI erase has performed much more like Neo's as far as end results are concerned. At least for now, straight out of the box, Neo does a more convincing job when I need it and I'm not a fan of paying for another service to get similar results in On1. My biggest concern, however, is how much storage space is being used by these apps for their built in capabilities. My installation of Neo, without marketplace extras installed, is nearly 5 GB compared to On1's less than 2 GB with marketplace extras installed; and Neo is not nearly as full-featured as On1.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Thanks for your feedback. Im glad to see you are getting what I’m getting. Interesting that Neo is consuming so much space. Is this just the installation and not including the catalog?

[@DavidClarke-r5z]

It’s bad enough we payed $70-$80 dollars for the New RAW 2025 version with the “SUPPOSED” miracle one touch Generative AI erase of objects in like 10 seconds, NOT even close (more like 2-3min) per image and gives us a Multitude of other objects! That being said you now release Version 2025.1 with DAN showing us new added features to the Generative AI erase. I was hopeful it was a fix and again it’s still is a JOKE DOESN'T WORK. Still takes at least 2min per image erase and doesn’t come close to DAN’S latest video!

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Have you tried the server version stability.ai. Perhaps that might give better results.

[@robertrakowicz9666]

I never had Luminar and I think it's nothing for me. ON1 is a "toy" nothing more. Year after year, tons of new features, but none of them work as expected.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Thanks for the feedback. Would want to know who uses these.

[@nightowlnzab]

Frustrating... in general I actually like On1 specifically for the way the local edits and effect stacking/masking works - the concept of having a RAW developer tool plus some ability to apply effects and some basic editing without having to resort to a full blown editor. But, as shown here - some of the tools and this AI erase in particularly aren't great. On the flipside, Luminar seems to perform better in this aspect, but I've been burned by their software before (buggy, poor performance) and I've been cautious about forking over money to them again, since...

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Yes. Both have their pros and cons. I believe ON1 will be improving this drastically. Customers can't be happy about this.

[@HotGates]

From what I see Luminar is better.

[@takebetterphotos8132]

Thanks for the feedback.