One FATAL Flaw | E-Flite UMX Turbo Timber Evolution

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-Lubricate the gears from the factory
-Send some lube with the plane, or tell people how to fix it via a product bulletin
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[@scotteeshelman5714]

Hey guys nice video! Spectacular flying as usual. I highly reccomend using Hob-E-Lube HL 657 white grease on all your linear servos. I put it on the gears and all over the little jack screw. After applying it and cycling the servos, you will immediately notice they move faster, and sound way more smooth and more healty. In the long run, this will prevent the motors from burning out, and will stop the plastic piece that rides on the jack screw from eventually stripping out prematurely. I don't know for sure, but perhaps it will help with the binding issue you are having. It is a plastic friendly grease that will not degrade the material. I have bought older umx planes off of ebay in which the linear servos could not move at all. After applying the grease and moving the sevos back and fourth by hand a few times, these old servos came to life again like they were new!

[@old_coastie]

Thank you... first lube I have heard of that might actually work on these

[@garrykennedy5484]

I wore out the contacts for the strip on these linear servos on my Blade MCPX helicopter I flew it so much. LOL Can't grease that area though. Wish they could use a regular style servo. I've seen some really tiny ones, but probably still won't be quite as light I guess. Great video guys.

[@gisall8205]

Great helpful comment. Question. Where can I find that White Great.

[@gisall8205]

GREAT video H.T. Finally got mine the other day. Love it. Takes off, fly's and lands like a dream. One Flaw I found in the assembly is that they connected the Elevator Ball Joint on the Inside. Next to the Fuselage. It's impossible to move the connection point to where you can get maximum throw on the elevator. Maby that's why other people have had their elevator servo's lock up. Over stressing them. " If " in the future, I choose to reposition it, I'll have to punch a hole through the fuselage to access it. I had a Co Pilot bring his to the field, and his was assembled on the inside, next to the fuselage also. I electronically maxed out the elevator travel, but it would be nice to get that additional travel through mechanical means. Other than that absentminded oversight, I love this airplane. My 4th UMX.

[@myksanchez1222]

Great video. Fortunately, my Evo didn't meet its end due to a locked servo. I accidentally drove my Typhon S6 at full speed into it while the Evo was parked at the field on a fun filled RC day...

[@airshipcpt3714]

I love my UMX timberX. I had an older umx timber before that, and I thought the original was maneuverable but not to the extreme of the timberX. That thing is a roll machine that makes the barrel roll rate in starfox seem slow

[@Productive-RC]

Definitely love watching your reviews, it’s something I always look forward to on saterday❤😂

[@Electobat]

Loving your work and humor, the best!

[@userTJ39780]

I bought the original UMX T.Timber a few years ago. It had good 2S performance and flew well indoors and we even landed it on a picnic table (with a raised edge). However, I flew it with floats on a pond and the wind flipped it over, shorting out the ailerons. I ordered a new wing, but also upgraded to the newer Blue Turbo Timber, which will NEVER fly off of water.

[@thatairplaneguy]

Can’t wait for the apprentice stol review.

[@old_coastie]

Yes please... I already am flyin the Crap outta mine... BTW 3S is totally capable with the Stock setup... yes I got vid...

[@BillKisel]

I had the sticking elevator servo issue with both my first AND second UMX EVO. HH replaced the first after it crashed due to the stuck servo. The replacement plane did the same on the 4th or 5th flight but I did not go back to HH with the issue. I sprayed the servo with silicone a bunch of times as I worked the elevator up and down for I don't know how many times. I've since had maybe 50 flights without the servo issue rearing its ugly head. The plane, due to the crash repairs, looks like crap up close but sill flies well.

[@stevendegiorgio3143]

Yah,that a really good airplane.I think it's a great trainer too.Its good at everything and it's even a good looking plane.I would love to have one.

[@blankblank9117]

The pushrod mod is a must. Also, the ultimate umx timber is as follows: buy the timber kit. Install micro servos, upgrade all control hinges, and up the size of the tailwheel along with up size tailwheel mount. Make sure CG is good and you have a umx timber with no SAFE , more throw than you'd ever need, and rudder authority on the ground. The ultimate front yard plane.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Sounds heavy 🧐

[@sailingeric]

Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?

[@N_Fortune]

@@sailingeric 😎

[@ghostdog0424]

Can this thing take payload? Thinking gps/gimbal cam/FLIR/stereoscopic cam package

[@JustwingitRC]

What an absolutely awesome viddy from the lunatics in the Granite State! I really love the multitude of flying locales, and all the different flying situations you always put your models in, no matter what the size of the aircraft. So I too had the dreaded elevator lock-out (about half-way thru the second battery), and I wasn't even banging on it too harshly, just doing some mellow figure eights out in front of me, no flaps, plenty of flying speed, and WHAMO! She spins in totally unresponsive and snaps the nose off. Oh well, I repaired it and gave it to one of my flying buddies sons. He really enjoys flying it. All the best to you guys, keep the awesome content rolling my friends!

[@hobbycow5346]

Right now these are $89 at Towerhobbies in the Scratch and Dent section. Their only “defect”is bubbling stickers because the surfaces were not prepped properly. I just ordered two. As of 11/25 these are still in stock, and still $89. At that price it’s a steal! Order over $100 you get free shipping and $20 back in Tower cash…that’s insane! I get wanting to see how much performance you can get from these UMX planes, but just from looking at the delicate control horns, foam construction, and tiny servos, I fly mine more gently and don’t subject them to high G’s. Any repairs I use Beacon Foam Tac, which is magical stuff! Also Deoxit 5 is great for taking the chatter out of linear servos. I have a large fleet of UMX planes, many are discontinued, so I hate to fly them too hard and risk losing a plane that’s practically irreplaceable.

[@outdoorsman310]

I've had some success with foam tac. fwiw I've found the clear gorilla glue to be a more durable repair on these.

[@CaliforniaOutdoorsman]

No warranty on those Tower Hobbies scratch and dent deals. I bought two also and the first one immediately destroyed itself due to the elevator issue. I'm afraid to put the other one in the air

[@hobbycow5346]

@@CaliforniaOutdoorsman Yeah, there seems to be some reported issues with elevator servos locking up on RCG threads. One suggestion is to limit servo travel to about 95% to prevent overextending. It’s a good idea to slightly reduce linear servo travel on every UMX plane. Doesn’t need much, maybe 95-98%, just not 100%. it’s just a good insurance policy to reduce the odds of linear servo lock at ends. Spray the servos with Deoxit 5 lube as well. Good luck!

[@FIPackage]

What's a good equivalent to this plane that doesn't have lockout issues

[@hutchzy9219]

My last two umx models have let me down a very short time into owning them. Both with servo problems, the last one failed whilst in the air and so it crashed into the ground. I'd like the new bi plane but I don't dear bye it.

[@brianchambers1515]

I can already tell you that there will be a UMX Draco👍🏻😉 nice video guys

[@sward5106]

Ive just received a UMX T Timber Evo. Out of the box the left aileron servo has an intermittent fault. it works, and then suddenly locks and does not return to neutral. Issue seems electronic rather than a mechanical bind up. Very lucky not to have written it off on first flight. Taking back to shop and hoping they will replace as it was faultyout of the box! Shame as its a beautiful little plane. Hoping the replacement doesn't have the elevator issue!!

[@scotthayford6909]

have had to replace the right aileron servo twice now, first time it caught fire when it flipped on the water and a few months after the replacement servo died in the air, luckily it was in the neutral position and i could land and horizon sent me a new servo.

[@MichelleGianni]

I want to buy this plane to learn on, there is gotta be a park in Massachusetts to fly this without having to join an RC cluub

[@snauzze7007]

Did you lower your travel on all surfaces I put mine on 97 % for all

[@I-THE-HOTSHOT]

Haven’t watched the whole video, but can guarantee that I’m going to enjoy it. Always love watching your videos. You guys make my day infinitely better keep it up.

[@FATSNAIL-FPV]

Could the elevator servo be replaced by a micro servo? a little DIY and the flaw is fixed.

[@g00se09]

Hey btw I love flying this bird in mid wind it's a timber it's built for it

[@antoningreaux9963]

Hi, do you think it would be interesting to do a review on one of the Flightory plane ? Cuz i need an opinion of experimented people

[@HomeGliders]

Are there any balsa rc kits on the market anymore?

[@old_coastie]

No.... Foam or nothing.... Not really.... Of course there are still Balsa planes... but other than Guillows very few Balsa models at this size.

[@old-rcplane-phart]

HH doesn't make the planes they sell. FMS makes 97% of all foam planes (& yes, wood too) sold worldwide.

[@ssrattus]

Thanks!

[@Globalnet626]

how about something crazy like... UMX HABU????

[@RARenfield]

When it fails out of the box, Horizon has always come through for me. What bothers me is that their gear is Windows only and they do not disclose this anywhere. Which wouldn't be an issue if they didn't ship products that are not ready for prime time. The NX10 I bought had been out for almost 2 years, but needed a firmware update out of the box. Still does, and always will be crippled as a result. But I found this out after 6 months, so I'm stuck with it. Love my UMX Turbo Timber, but that NX10 represents my last Spektrum Transmitter purchase. Radiomaster is all I will use going forward. Oddly enough, for the same reason many people went with Windows instead of Apple. Radiomaster is a little harder to figure out, but it's a fraction of the price. Ironic.

[@ShockeWulf190]

Rest in peace to all the brothers who attempted the inverted pass with the UMX Timber. XD

[@sed6]

You guys should buy a canoe and tie it up nearby 👍

[@BooDevil65]

Another great vid! 😂 Would you recommend this or the sport cub S2 for a beginner? PS I'm not really clear on how you feel about the twin Timber... 🤣

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Sport Cub S2 👍

[@jayford4685]

This happened too me on my umx turbo timber. When i repaired it i noticed the carbon fiber rod pulled out glued it back and still have the rear flap get stuck in the down position. Now i stay away from that brand

[@domandotcom1696]

Can u do the umx citation please

[@RARenfield]

Why would they "do" anything with such an old model that is now discontinued?

[@Saltlife386]

For me it wasn't the elevator sticking. It was the glue on the linkage to the elevator that came up. Rendering the elevator useless.

[@WafflePlaneRC]

Horizon still hasn't figured out how to improve those UMX servos? They've been at this for a decade now, you think they'd learn.

[@hadleymanmusic]

Brushless !!! Be my first

[@rickjones6458]

Absolutely would like to see a UMX Draco.

[@EricClark-x1v]

Cayla Brooks

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Martinez Eric Brown Paul Martinez Laura

[@ronniehamphrey5789]

Thompson Jessica Robinson John Garcia Gary

[@RuthLopez-z5u]

Hernandez Scott Walker Susan Martinez Brenda

[@jeffatkins8103]

Horizon Hobby does not back their planes like they used to. Very sad. I had a so called Night Radian that at certain attitudes goes dark, can’t see the leds, they said it wasn’t a defect. 😡

[@TheRyaninspokane]

Take my wallet. I want a umx draco and scrappy

[@CharlesWhite-v2o]

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[@XavierMT-y2z]

Same elevator servo lock up failure… caused a crash. Horizon Hobby totally refuse to recognise the problem here in Europe. Very unprofessional…

[@TailHeavyProductions]

It's definitely disappointing that they won't acknowledge this issue with a product bulletin. Countless people have had it. Sorry about your plane.

[@0waverunner0]

WHY ARE THEY STILL USING LINIAR SERVOS?!? my volantix warbird has micro servos all for 100 bucks...linear are old tech...

[@Jon_Flys_RC]

I sold mine at a swap me last spring. It was too “meh” for my liking. My back yard wasn’t quite big enough for it and if I was going to drive to a field I have other planes I would rather take with me.

[@nicolefaneers1028]

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[@ThomasPerez-l1p]

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[@RadimentriX]

that they don't replace a plane that's broken because of their lack of quality control is quite disgusting... i thought they fly and test their stuff?

[@Eflitevaliant1.3m]

Lmao they actually made a umx draco

[@TailHeavyProductions]

...and we have a video on it, too! 👍

[@Eflitevaliant1.3m]

Another good video😂

[@jeffoh5787]

My aileron servo locked up on me and I didn't have enough time to recover. Crashed the plane and it was a total loss. I've owned the UMX timber before this one, and also own the UMX a10. This plane was by far my favorite umx, but I WILL NEVER buy another umx plane. They're fragile and crap quality servos.

[@HowellsArlen-w4b]

Jones Betty Taylor Angela Perez Betty

[@Jay-xe3cq]

Not surprised its flawed. And definitely not surprised with the lack of support. With horizon hobby if youre out of warranty you're on your own. Happened with the sport cub s2. Flew it once and never took off again. Controll surfaces were failing. Garbage plane and they knew it.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Sorry to hear it.

[@Jay-xe3cq]

@@TailHeavyProductions it's okay but it was a real bummer because the one time the Sport cub flew it was great. I'll probably end up trying something again one day but for now blade helicopters have been good to me for years. Just a bad start to planes lol

[@MarkGhebrial]

First

[@AnthonyJohnson-m4d]

273 Romaguera Club

[@peterplaneman]

It's cool but we're I live they nearly $500 and it's bigger brother is $900 so I gave up on e-flite to expensive

[@old_coastie]

What???? The UMX is $500 where you live? Where in the heck do you live? I need to start an import business...

[@peterplaneman]

@@old_coastie new Zealand

[@whatsthematter8767]

The UMX Turbo Timber Evolution: The *good* blue Timber.

[@Squid_Wizard70]

No the original turbo timber was the best blue timber.

[@whatsthematter8767]

@@Squid_Wizard70 I was talking about the dark blue timbers if you couldn’t see.

[@gladysevansese1921]

Moore Kimberly Hernandez Edward Williams Larry

[@htubyfrdfcybrjdf8260]

Taylor Eric Lopez Karen Davis Paul

[@outdoorsman310]

My elevator servo got stuck under load as well. I was able to land inverted and preserve the plane. Horizon eventually warrantied it, but the process was unnecessarily time consuming.

[@simonpatenaude2765]

I had this exact problem on my maiden flight. I was coming out of a loop and the servo completely locked out. Nose dived into the ground. Fortunately they replaced the plane. It absolutely exploded upon impact.

[@TheKenBro]

I had this exact issue as well on maiden smack into the ground not our 1st rodeo in RC so yeah they replaced the bird after they made me pay $54 shipping back to them so they could "repair it" ....

[@FlyXenonRC]

I just lost it on maiden today for this same reason. Did yall contact horizon or what? Super bummed about this.

[@simonpatenaude2765]

@@FlyXenonRC Personally I did. They sent me a new model. What’s funny is that the exact same thing happened with the second one. I now have 2 airplanes but both of them are glued back together and don’t look very good.

[@djr01974]

Had the same issues with mine. 2nd time out elevator locked came down and snapped the wing. Called horizon and they took care of me by sending a new plane. Of course I needed to send pictures and the receipt. Now I just turned down the throw to 97% and no issues

[@EJ-74]

HaHa Perfect timing, I'm sitting here finishing up my newest foam board plane, going to do some bush flying today 😁

[@speedyswede5585]

Another KZbin RC influencer has suggested to reduce the 100% travel on all controls by 1 or 2 points to eliminate that locking action in these servos. If it's all right, I'll see if I can find that video and post a link with the numerical point in the presentation as a reference.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Thanks - we are aware of these fixes. This is copied from our video description: Our thoughts on the servo issues: It's good for people to know about the necessary mods to prevent the linear servo issues discussed in various places online. Since it's clearly a well-understood issue by most RC folks in general, it's very likely Horizon knows about it, and they should: -Lubricate the gears from the factory -Send some lube with the plane, or tell people how to fix it via a product bulletin

[@dhgmllcshea5038]

I just set all to 95% to be safe as I change trims later.... always need to be below 100 actual... 95% plus trims and mixes is often >100% and that is fatal for these little linear servos. Also, frequently check for dirt, especially in the wing servos. Last but not least... for all but high alpha low speed --' maybe DON'T go to the innermost hole on the control surface horn... that adds a lot of load, (like 2-3x!) for a given throw and airspeed.

[@berrymucuckiner4890]

Out of the box I had to do a ton of mechanical elevator adjustment. It almost had no down authority. After that, It runs great. However, this would scare off a newbie

[@r1m.dog78]

I absolutely love this little plane! Thanks for the info re the elevator. I've put it through the wringer but haven't encountered that issue thankfully (yet 😊).

[@EngineNoise305]

I had the same problem twice. The replacement they sent me had the same problem. Then on the second replacement they said to use Deoxit F5 Fader Lube on the servos. I made a video on how to do it... kzbin.info1YGMj5alBvk Brian Phillips had the same problem too

[@TailHeavyProductions]

Just to confirm - Horizon told you to use the Deoxit D5 Fader Lube after you had an issue?

[@EngineNoise305]

@@TailHeavyProductions yeah that’s how I got the replacement , I went off on them saying how do you expect me to know that, if your product needs a maintenance item , put it in the manual. This is what I think happened: The products were sitting in a warm shipping container for a long time and got too warm, causing all the lubricants to drip out. Some thought it was the resistive strip the servo uses to find position got dirty, but I think the gears would jam because when you apply load it would jam and “shiver” because it couldn’t close loop on position so it kept overshooting. I have the UMX attractor too and never had this problem. I think the UMX TTE is a great plane tho , I flew it in 25 mph winds. The lube is so expensive. Clip of the jam: kzbin.infobsQUhBDAJVI?si=E2MQLpXnAbwLE5cb The reason why I knew it wasn’t the resistive strip and it was the gears is because the servo was getting really hot and buzzing , telling me it knew the position was wrong and was trying to correct.

[@EngineNoise305]

@@TailHeavyProductionsmy bad, the F5 Fader lube

[@STEVEJELLY]

How did you unscrew the elevator push rod from the control horn? I did the rudder just fine but the elevator is at a bad angle

[@rcAirplaneDeficitDisorder]

Heat up a small rod, melt hole through fuselage, easy access for screwdriver. Silly design, but the hole doesn't impact anything (just be careful of course) and it makes adjustments a breeze. If you look closely in the video, you'll see they've created a hole as well.

[@michaelangiolo9370]

Horizon hobby really heard you guys at 8:41 because here we are with a UMX draco 😂

[@0waverunner0]

with horrid linear servos.....selective hearing at best.

[@waynek749]

Before I bought mine I messaged HH Support to ask about this known issue as I knew about it already. They said there is no known issue so I purchased one. No issues on the elevator yet but I can’t get past the low voltage cutoff 1 min into the flight, motor pulses and I have to land. Reported to HH but haven’t heard back yet.

[@old_coastie]

Bigger or Better Batts will fix that...

[@iotaprime2892]

No matter what UMX with linear servos, it's only a matter of time before trouble arises. Sometimes the excessive chatter problem can be solved by hitting it with contact cleaner. The long-term solution is to replace with nano servos. Of course that's not going to be worth it (bother or expense) for a lot of hobbyists, but I've found satisfaction there.

[@jakeclauson9863]

I always hated linear servos. But lately have been coming around to appreciate the newer versions from horizon. Iv found regular nano servos to be very hit or miss and really inconsistent with travel. The 1.7g servos are twitchy at best. Smallest worth having is the 2g imo. I'm building an fpv umx timber evo and had to ditch the flight controller to gain access to more channels. Was about to use 2g servos but decided to go with linear instead just cuz they've gotten to be more consistent, longer throw, faster and stronger. But they are obnoxiously loud at times

[@austinlangley4539]

As someone who sells horizon hobby’s planes I can confirm most plane returns are umxs with servos that don’t work

[@sblack48]

Moving the clevis to the inner hole increases the servo load. I don’t know if the servo is locking up due to overloading but if it is then moving the clevis inboard will make things worse.

[@JeWCyDuDe]

I've got planes from 2011 with linear servos with ZERO issues.

[@tonygpf]

Absolutely rubbish build...purchased one... crashed it on first flight due to servo failure... E-flite should be sued.

[@WesternOregonRailfan]

I’ve heard about servo failures, that’s why I’m gonna get the Timber X if I don’t find a umx timber at the swap meet.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

So sorry to hear that!

[@kiastingz9924]

Sue is a little too far for a foam plane, As long as they replace it and make it right, i would not be mad. There are some companies, (Banana hobby/ X-fly) that don’t make it right the first time.

[@davidkimbler4744]

Don't use max servo travel. Simple fix most anyone would understand

[@FlyXenonRC]

I literally lost this plane on the maiden today. Full elevator servo lock full up. I thought I had lost connection until I arrived on scene and every other servo was in working order. Completely bashed the front end in. Even have a video of it just stuck. Super sad honestly, flew great for a few minuits.

[@TailHeavyProductions]

So sorry to hear this. We continue to get comments like this, and it's frustrating as Horizon continues to sell a model with a known defect and still have not acknowledged it via a product bulletin.

[@sgecko7]

I crashed mine (my mistake), glued the fuselage together and flew it a few times until I noticed the wings were cracked at the base. I think I'll end up getting new wings because the cracks developed a gap that messes up the geometry of the wings if I try to glue them :( Before that, it didnt have any issues... thanks for the info about the elevator servo though. I did read about it some time ago, but wasnt sure about the nature of the issue. One question... most of these UMX planes have those linear servos, but that issue seems to mostly show up in the UMXTTEvo... what could be the difference with the other UMXs?

[@BuilderInStyle]

Please take a look at the UMX ultrix, you would like it

[@redwineisfine]

Both ultrix models are amazing. The 600mm with 3s 2200mAh is one of the best fpv fixed wing models i have ever flown.. just amazing fun from the ground up

[@taxigalaxi]

Mine got its rudder to rip off somehow sadly :( currently attempting to fix it

[@bthrow-qt9hg]

Had the same thing happen. Well not completely ripped off but came detached by the tail last outing. Glued it back and hoping for the best

[@aryamanvarshney8480]

Hey yall! I have one and love it to death but that issue got me it an inverted loop 😅. Luckily it somehow recovered and i fixed the problem by unscrewing the plastic servo thing from the board and replacing it with another one from another broken plane's aileron. After a little bit of oil ive never had that issue again

[@DivisionRc]

lost my umx otter due to locked up elevator. had one side of my umx pitts ailerons lock up during flight.............. they wanted me to pay for shipping for the otter just to see if it fell under warrenty. shipping costed 20$....a new servo cost 20$.....zero point. stopped flying both and never buying their umxs again

[@paulnelson5314]

In my experience E-Flite makes “disposable” models. Airplanes and helicopters alike. Work ok initially, then after moderate use……….rubbish!😢

[@Mr.Rc32]

Can you make a review of HOBBYZONE Aeroscout?

[@mavicminipilot]

Your dog is cute 🥰

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[@ianhoyt2638]

I love seeing more flying videos! I could watch Tail Heavy all day!

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[@showusyaguppysaustralia1515]

Probably wont buy another unless they do a umx draco

[@emersonb5764]

That response from horizon is typical. their orange foam Extra 300 from several years back had defective malformed wings that resulted in an upside-down flat bottom (now flat top) airfoil. It flew like garbage for craploads of customers but they refused to admit it. They accused all the customers of modifying the plane and causing the bad flight characteristics. It was complete junk and they’re dirtbags as far as I’m concerned.

[@robertzedeker3234]

Bought the original about 2 years ago and still flying. Bought 2 of the turbos and both failed after about 90 days, out of warranty. The circuit boards or RX’ s failed, whatever you call them. Wasted $300. 00. They flew great initially till they died.

[@Aaronledev]

@tailheavyproductions I am going to but this plane and I want advice Here’s the plane: FlightLine Fw 190 D-9 Dora 850mm (33") Wingspan - PNP

[@BinderDundat]

Horizon Hobby products and customer service have become very poor. My wife bought me this plane for Christmas not knowing my NX10 is currently a paper weight.

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