One Lap Race of Bathurst - Speed Comparison between Holdens - Peter Brock Mark Skaife

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@joshuaberlin9419
@joshuaberlin9419 7 жыл бұрын
This was the last time that Peter Brock "raced" at Bathurst before his sad passing. I find it extremely fitting that his last "Race" at Bathurst was in his favourite car, the A9X Hatchback. Rest in Peace Brockie, you are sadly missed but will never be forgotten.
@FURYBrenton
@FURYBrenton 2 жыл бұрын
He was a cheating prick that crashed into a tree lol
@joshuaberlin9419
@joshuaberlin9419 2 жыл бұрын
@@FURYBrenton Um, first of all. Peter Brock wasn't a cheating prick. How can you cheat during a car race? Secondly, it's not funny that he crashed into a tree, that's a terrible accident that affected the lives of so many people. Both those close to him, and people who enjoy watching his racing. If you find stuff like that amusing, I suggest that you should go see a psychiatrist, because you have serious issues if that's the case.
@FURYBrenton
@FURYBrenton 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaberlin9419 He cheated on his wife, Bev.
@joshuaberlin9419
@joshuaberlin9419 2 жыл бұрын
@@FURYBrenton Yeah, that's a known fact. But it has nothing to do with his car racing, which is what the video is about.
@FURYBrenton
@FURYBrenton 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaberlin9419 It has to do with his character, with what your comment was about. He’s a POS and not a good driver if he crashed into a tree that was always there.
@DexterFishbourne
@DexterFishbourne 14 жыл бұрын
That was awesome, thanks man! How cool to see Brocky in the A9X...I met him once, when I was about 25 and asked him what car he had at home and he said he just had his wife's car...so, I asked him what car he would have out of all he had driven and he said the A9X.
@MartinBankier-vb6ij
@MartinBankier-vb6ij 7 ай бұрын
3 spectacular cars and all 3 a real aussie icons. Also too 3 really good racers. Rest in peace Brocky
@BROOKS39
@BROOKS39 15 жыл бұрын
The A9X was a museum piece. Don't forget that! Its like watching a old Spitfire flying. It doesn't have to show off. History has already been made!!!
@markjones464
@markjones464 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure which I would take A9X or Spitfire , Aussie or Pom , Stuffed it easy fix, I Take Both
@dj17q
@dj17q 16 жыл бұрын
I'm a Ford man thru and thru, and gotta admit the Brock and HDT Torana A9X is one awesome combo. Thanks for the memories...... GOOO LOOOOWNSY for 2009!! And Whincup for 2008 championship!!!
@thomo73100
@thomo73100 12 жыл бұрын
This is just the most fantasic thing to watch Thanks PB for the magic and pleasure of watching a master at his craft but you died to soon. The print of that car hangs proudly on my lounge room wall its one of my prized possestions
@Commodore117
@Commodore117 17 жыл бұрын
Its good to see Brocky in the A9X Torana. RIP Peter Brock
@markpapendell2339
@markpapendell2339 12 жыл бұрын
bloody great i love it, three very good drivers i wish i was 1 of them, miss Peter he was an inspiration to me! i guess thats why i still get out there an race and we have a ball cheers
@fredfungalspore
@fredfungalspore 16 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for taking me back I remember that day very well.I still cannot believe Brocky is no longer with us.......RIP My Friend
@keithburgess4088
@keithburgess4088 11 жыл бұрын
THE MASTER STILL HAD IT, I DONT CARE WHERE HE FINISHED HE'S STILL NUMBER ONE.....
@FURYBrenton
@FURYBrenton 2 жыл бұрын
Number one at crashing into a tree
@rossco289
@rossco289 3 жыл бұрын
Mate ! the man "Mr Brock" I was very fortunate, owned a genuine A9X sold it to a collector in WA after doing a full resto, say no more yeah I should have kept it but ....... Awesome video keep coming back to it. What a bloody loss, PB, an Australian icon.
@victorpetroff830
@victorpetroff830 6 жыл бұрын
Brock and the A9X both legend's in Australia motor sport
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 13 жыл бұрын
@TheTestDrivers - The VB Commodore of the late seventies combined the body of the Opel Commodore with the nose of the Opel Senator. Every Commodore up to the VE model used the same floor pan, even the VN and later cars, which simply had the sills widened to match the wider bodywork.
@gav240z
@gav240z 15 жыл бұрын
Damn right what a master piece too. I know I'd take home the A9X if given the choice of all 3. It was great to see all the same I was surprised that the A9X didn't beat the standard road car, but then again it was given a good enough head start.
@captainkaos1770
@captainkaos1770 7 жыл бұрын
Brock was just babying the a9x no doubt running old tyres and is a priceless piece of history. I watched this car back in the day and it was a rocket
@damianfrazzetto9801
@damianfrazzetto9801 6 жыл бұрын
Captain Kaos he had the wrong diff ratio and kept the revs no greater than 7500. Otherwise he'd have smashed Skaife
@captainkaos754
@captainkaos754 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve always said that. At Bathurst I seem to remember them running the 2.6 ratio which I had in my vk calais and it was good for 100 ks in first gear. The first batch of a9xs ran that ratio. My brother in law still has an a9x four door fitted with that diff.
@KingMatto
@KingMatto 13 жыл бұрын
Great to see Brocky back on the mountain, I miss him so much..just wish he could do 1 more lap or race around the mountain. Love ya Brocky.
@0900utube
@0900utube 16 жыл бұрын
Im a Ford Man 2! But Brocky YOU ARE THE MAN!! AND THE KING OF THE MOUNTAIN!! GREAT COMBO BROCK & TORANA!! MEEEEANNN!!!
@BowdensOwn
@BowdensOwn 14 жыл бұрын
I need to point out that the A9X was running the wrong gear ratio's for Bathurst this day, which is why Skaife passes Brock so quickly down Conrod.. Totally our mistake in the preparation and sadly one we could not fix on the weekend. Nor would we get the chance to have it with the correct ratio with Brocks sad passing. This lap shown here here was to be Brock's final lap at speed around Bathurst, in one of his most favoured cars.. RIP PB.
@captainkaos754
@captainkaos754 5 жыл бұрын
Something I’ve Always said, incorrect ratio, but was shouted down by no it all FUCKHEADS.🖕🏻
@kennymiesta513
@kennymiesta513 13 жыл бұрын
nothing beats the note of that A9X
@captainkaos754
@captainkaos754 5 жыл бұрын
Mighty 308
@rmxrider20032000
@rmxrider20032000 15 жыл бұрын
Awesome from what little I get to see on the internet it looks alot more exciting then NASCAR all left handers ZZZZZZZ. Plus Australia is full of the nicest people on the planet.
@jusfuknwidya
@jusfuknwidya 14 жыл бұрын
RIP Brocky . i was at Targa Rally WA when you passed away and never got to see you come past.. i lived in Toodyay and was standing on the side of the road waiting for you but....... long live the king.......and im a ford man but your still the king of the mountain
@orangeLJ
@orangeLJ 16 жыл бұрын
Wow. Brocky was an awesome bloke. Miss his face around the races these days.
@toeboe106
@toeboe106 14 жыл бұрын
The thing I love about this vid is that both Cam Mcconvile and PB were reasonably relaxed after the race but you could tell Mark Skaife was giving it everything,so much so he was out of breath afterwards!What they need to do now is do something similar with a V8 Supercar maybe a racing BMW M3 and a Sierra Cosworth preferably in Shell racing colours ie a Dick Johnson Sierra!
@Alex462047
@Alex462047 14 жыл бұрын
Now that was interesting. I thought that the A9X was actually going to catch the stock SS, but it ended up pretty even.
@ColdWarWarriors
@ColdWarWarriors 16 жыл бұрын
Brocks A9X was not in its original Bathurst configuration. The diff ratio used was a lower ratio than the Bathurst ratio which was used in 1979, that was why The SS road car easily overtook on the straight, McConville said he was doing 240kph, a 79 A9X Bathurst Torano would top 250kph, Brock was stuck on the rev limiter in top gear halfway down the straight.
@mafiand
@mafiand 17 жыл бұрын
BTW zaoc, I actually drive a Holden and love it and the V8 supercars. I can just take the Holden blinkers off now and then to appreciate other cars and accept that Holden played dirty that year and that they are not the be all and end all. RIP Brocky, a racing mastermind.
@mozzmann
@mozzmann 14 жыл бұрын
@shnizalproductions I was under the impression that General Motors Holden while being Australian was in fact a subsidiary of GM USA this is why there is a startling similarity between the 57 BelAire and the FB-FC series. The Toranas are Variations of the Buick Skylark which was originally a cross between Chev and Pontiac model at the time. The A9X however was 100% Australian Designed as a Sports Sedan something that it indisputably did.
@danjuke55
@danjuke55 18 жыл бұрын
RIP Brocky. You are a legend
@slambo70
@slambo70 18 жыл бұрын
Top driver, top bloke. Makes footage like this mean more eh? RIP Brocky, your legend lives on forever mate.
@toranacar
@toranacar 18 жыл бұрын
Log into the GMH Torana forum if you like and send your condolences there. Legend RIP Peter Brock
@barryphillips7327
@barryphillips7327 5 жыл бұрын
The A9X still is a good looking and sounding car!
@swat2400
@swat2400 16 жыл бұрын
awsome video shot man
@honkeezy
@honkeezy 15 жыл бұрын
That was pretty cool! Man I want an A9X Poor Brocky!
@toeboe106
@toeboe106 15 жыл бұрын
My pick of the 3 hold-ons(as in hold on you're gonna die!)would have to be Brockie's A9X.He was lovin it and the noise...just awesome!!!
@allisterdavidson9805
@allisterdavidson9805 Жыл бұрын
and now 20 years on......
@_ThatGuyGus_
@_ThatGuyGus_ 18 жыл бұрын
RIP Brocky you were a legend even in life Live Life
@MrBadvip
@MrBadvip 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you sooo much for uploading.. what an eye opener
@mikeymofonz
@mikeymofonz 18 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Peter Brock - you will always be a legend
@twistymcslide2
@twistymcslide2 12 жыл бұрын
miss you Mr Brock . amazing man . sad loss to the sport and autosport in general .
@Fastskippy
@Fastskippy 18 жыл бұрын
aaaaaaaahhh, just awesome... thxs for posting.
@roflcopterkklol
@roflcopterkklol 9 жыл бұрын
Aww i miss brockie :(
@brockscharvi9410
@brockscharvi9410 9 жыл бұрын
+roflcopterkklol my names brock but yea bro me to:(
@AndrewEG
@AndrewEG 17 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that DTM car's are a tubular space frame with carbon body panels to resemble the original production car. Most of those cars weigh about 1000kg compared to 1350kg of the V8's. DTM car wheel bases are also often modified beyond the adjustable setup boundaries of the original production car... V8SC use the original production car monocoque body frame, heavier than space frame but it's more production based race car.
@adzmorris
@adzmorris 14 жыл бұрын
Great comparo! Love to see the R32 Nissan GTR race car from the 90's vs a current R35 GTR road car vs an R35 GTR from the Super GT racing championship. Obviously it will never happen because if it did, they would have to ban it from ever happening again cause it might hurt all the V8 guys feelings again!!!! Love to see a return to REAL touring car racing. Bring back the turbos and other manufacturers. So sick of just Falcodores. Our talented drivers deserve better!!!!
@nikolzew
@nikolzew 12 жыл бұрын
I can watch this lap over and over , still get a kick out of it !To BowdensOwn I'm sure with correct diff ratio for the day in the A9X it would of been a closer finish , I have driven a an A9X hatch and they give you a feeling that it's feather light ! rip PB
@ind347
@ind347 18 жыл бұрын
Rip Brocky. End of an era. Ken
@piraatbier
@piraatbier 16 жыл бұрын
Super cool video! V8 power rules
@mjfan123085
@mjfan123085 17 жыл бұрын
I agree, real driving skills these aussie racers have. I enjoy watching the rerun highlights we get in the states. Wish there was a way to watch live online or something. Go GM (Holden) Dont like Fords but I wish they made the Falcon for the states.
@ThatCostumedGuy
@ThatCostumedGuy 18 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it seems to be a sad time for Australia at the moment. At least, like Steve Irwin, Peter Brock died whilst doing what he loved.
@baydenoneill9923
@baydenoneill9923 12 жыл бұрын
I was at Bathurst when they done this. This wasn't the only lap Brock and McConville done, I was sitting at shell corner, at the time there was no mention what was going on but Brocky started from a standing start up near the pedestrian bridge at the chase and McConville started at the same time on the start line I'm guessing this was to figure out the margins for this run. So they both took off, I waited for a couple of minutes then seen the A9X come over the rise first with a fair gap over th
@Inboundbogie
@Inboundbogie 16 жыл бұрын
Love you BROCK ! Live on ! !
@DKashman
@DKashman 13 жыл бұрын
Awesome love the A9X, and what a Pity Brockie is gone. Long live the Torana
@GhostDog3
@GhostDog3 18 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car.
@Foo87
@Foo87 18 жыл бұрын
R.I.P Brocky you will be missed ( KING OF THE MOUNTAIN )
@nikolzew
@nikolzew 12 жыл бұрын
to the 18 dislikes I suggest you change your sanitary napkin, this is Brock and Holden making some great viewing for the real supporters of Aussie motor sport, I have a VZ V8 and I F@%nk love it
@markw351tube
@markw351tube 14 жыл бұрын
dreadly101, the Probe came from a Mazda base. Ford has never owned any share in Nissan, though as part of the Button plan, Ford did rebadge the Patrol 4WD as a Maverick, and Nissan rebadged the Falcon ute as a Nissan ute - that's it. Fantastic video though, loved the A9X's.
@The_Evil_Monkey_93
@The_Evil_Monkey_93 14 жыл бұрын
i love it how all you people say holden is american but in actual fact Holden was a leather making company for the AUS government it was contracted by the AUS government to make bodys for a new type of car (cant remember what it was)
@brett5728
@brett5728 11 жыл бұрын
If I had a choice I would take the A9X any day a true blue Aussie muscle car driving by a legend in Brocky RIP mate.
@DoctorNumber46
@DoctorNumber46 15 жыл бұрын
we weren't late to the battle at Guadalcanal...or Iwo Jima, or Okinawa, or the Philippines...Just food for thought.
@aussiemale9
@aussiemale9 10 жыл бұрын
Beautiful !
@Holden308
@Holden308 11 жыл бұрын
Would have been interesting to see a comparison of speed between Skaife's HRT Commodore, Brock's Bathurst 24hr winning Monaro, and Cam in either the SS Commodore or a road going CV8 Monaro
@illcounttill3
@illcounttill3 13 жыл бұрын
holden torana= opel viva holden commodore= opel redock still funny how people call them aussie sure they were assembled here but not much else
@largebear2
@largebear2 15 жыл бұрын
The pinnacle of Torana development was the A9X. A better comparison (now or back in 2004) would be the current SS Commodore road car, current V8 Supercar Commodore and a 1984 VK Group C Commodore (if one is available) as Brock drove that year. The 2009 Bathurst race being 25 years since the 1984 race would be ideal....
@jasonkhoury4328
@jasonkhoury4328 2 ай бұрын
That's a good point - that would've been a much more suitable comparison. And even if they got Brock to drive his 1980 race-winning commodore for comparison sake, but I guess the A9X is iconic and catches more intetest .. plus it would seem the A9X was his all-time favourite
@gp75motorsports
@gp75motorsports 15 жыл бұрын
Well it could be that OR valve float. Since they didn't have very good anti-float technology, the cars' engines tended to fall off a little bit more sharply past the ideal RPM range, though you're probably right because it was maxed out down the long straight.
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 12 жыл бұрын
I thought it was because Brock knew that the A9X was in no condition to fang because of its age, and was taking it easy to bring it back in one piece. But the wrong diff ratio makes sense too.
@martinh88
@martinh88 18 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace, a true gentleman racer.
@johnnyjrotten59
@johnnyjrotten59 13 жыл бұрын
The A9X looks the nicest to me - and sounds the nicest too. I prefer an XB Falcon though for its muscle car shape
@Holden308
@Holden308 12 жыл бұрын
You could always have Richo driving it like he did with Brocky back in `79. I hear he's no slouch behind the wheel ;-)
@mafiand
@mafiand 17 жыл бұрын
Ok Zaoc, the "Monaro" RACE CAR (I use the term Monaro loosly) was only entered for 1 year, not two IIRC. I may just head down to my local Holden dealer (at the time that is) and order one. Hang on a sec, it never made it into production!! So much for a PRODUCTION CAR race! That race was engineered in such a way that the "Monaro" would win bar a major failure.
@Foo87
@Foo87 18 жыл бұрын
R.I.P brocky you will be missed (KING OF THE NOUNTAIN)
@gosportjamie
@gosportjamie 10 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome. How about a repeat for 2014?...
@OzDracula
@OzDracula 9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the lap times were? In 1979 Brock's fastest record breaking lap in the A9X was 2 minutes and 21.1 seconds. It would have been a different result if the A9X had a six speed gearbox and a matching diff ratio.
@samboofle3715
@samboofle3715 8 жыл бұрын
And possibly if the motor had some more technology in it as well, like more valves per cylinder
@tjclt250r
@tjclt250r 8 жыл бұрын
+Sam Boofle the ls engine in the new car has the same 2 valves per cylinder.... I agree with more gearing and the 6 speed box would have helped
@samboofle3715
@samboofle3715 8 жыл бұрын
+Timothy Cote fair enough, didn't know that
@Parag0n
@Parag0n 12 жыл бұрын
Holden should really bring back the Torana, the Commodores are alright but could you imagine a smaller chassis car like the Torana with a LSx series engine with a Supercharger to boot... It would be fucking amazing.
@philipmann1914
@philipmann1914 6 жыл бұрын
Parag0n im imagining that now. You got that right. We could restart the brand. But i suppose the unions and over regulation would send us broke before we started. Sad really. I for one have lost all interest in bathurst now that the holdens and fords are nothing of my wonderfull Australia. We will never part with Our HJ panelvan. Have been fortunate to have owned her since brand new. Still drives beautifully. Was my fathers daily drive until a couple of years ago. Now we take her for country drives up and down the coast. Board on top beautiful wife by my side tailgate up and old sounds from the speakers. Thanks Holden. Thats the real Australian Holden i mean. Not the new botched holden
@menatworklanddownunder3955
@menatworklanddownunder3955 5 жыл бұрын
In 2006 they did being it back with the ve that came out they mad a torana model but it looked ugly there’s only one of them
@Madaz
@Madaz 18 жыл бұрын
that was a good race brocky didnt want to put the PRESERVED car into the wall i think he drove it a little bit easier than what he did in '79'
@Rusty_Gold85
@Rusty_Gold85 15 жыл бұрын
Actually to the "made in" argument all the teams now use the same racing components in suspension,brakes,gearbox etc.The real difference or origin is ONLY LEFT at the engine and bodypanels.
@tommygola
@tommygola 14 жыл бұрын
None of it matters, the A9X is THE car in any comparison. It will still be a collectors items long after we have forgotten the others.
@beeraddd
@beeraddd 17 жыл бұрын
you know i think v8 super cars should include more manufacturers like toyota mitsubishi etc. variety would add another element to the great racing.keep it limited 2 4 door saloons so it doesnt get out of hand like it with group a in the 80s. itd be interesting to see the different techniques drivers would have to use with different cars.
@Fastskippy
@Fastskippy 14 жыл бұрын
Respect....
@ArseBags
@ArseBags 17 жыл бұрын
Cool video.
@jacoby05
@jacoby05 16 жыл бұрын
true, also if the a9x was still in exact condition as it was in '79
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 14 жыл бұрын
I suspect Brock didn't really hammer the A9X down Conrod, as the car was pretty much straight out of the museum when he drove it.
@ThatCostumedGuy
@ThatCostumedGuy 17 жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@continental_drift
@continental_drift 13 жыл бұрын
RIP Peter Brock, you are missed.
@brett5728
@brett5728 11 жыл бұрын
Was the A9X running a 3.55 diff ratio that day ???
@0900utube
@0900utube 14 жыл бұрын
That A9x looks BeaStly, but that Supercar looks Pure Evil, both very nice.
@enzosRus
@enzosRus 17 жыл бұрын
I think everyone needs to get over this whole holden vs ford argument. I own an xr6 falcon and i love it but thats not to say that i wouldnt own a commodore. In fact, i have a few friends with very nice holdens which i have been able to drive and i have liked them. As well as that, i have driven many nice fords. Both ford and holden make good cars and like with all things, some models are goin to be better then others. As car inthusiasts, we need to respect eachothers opinions, not argue them.
@toy200sx
@toy200sx 8 жыл бұрын
Is that a roll hoop & bucket seat in the commodore SS?
@dingotookmybaby
@dingotookmybaby 15 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the ss roadcar that passed Brock on the straight, it was Skaif's race car
@smity1
@smity1 12 жыл бұрын
Brocky what a legend !!!!!!
@zanemurcha2675
@zanemurcha2675 4 жыл бұрын
I just realised that this video was uploaded when Brock was still alive.
@jacoby05
@jacoby05 16 жыл бұрын
pretty good, a9x running with an 2004 model ss 25 years difference
@1234597114
@1234597114 14 жыл бұрын
@shnizalproductions Love Holdens. But the Torana & Commodore are based on Opel platforms. Look it up...
@czr7j9
@czr7j9 11 жыл бұрын
shows how powerful a standard ss commodore of today is. Brocks got 380hp commodore's are about 364 hp, add and exhaust intake and tune and you have about 420hp. The brakes would probably last only 2 laps though haha, Torana still looks the best of the 3 in my opinion.
@Buzztooth
@Buzztooth 16 жыл бұрын
Gee , Skaif didn't win by much. And when you consider that the later holden race cars have very little in common with real street cars. Miss you Brocky. A genuine legend.
@fukthailand
@fukthailand 15 жыл бұрын
god bless you sir brock thanks
@burchillracing
@burchillracing 14 жыл бұрын
Cracking makes you want one
@0900utube
@0900utube 14 жыл бұрын
@toeboe106 Your right bro, i thought the same bout Skaife sucking in the big ones. He looks releaved that he just pipped the SS, cool vid and 2 of the best PB & Skaife.
@waynejohnson9993
@waynejohnson9993 4 жыл бұрын
brocky.....the legend.....the master.........
@The_Evil_Monkey_93
@The_Evil_Monkey_93 14 жыл бұрын
and let me also say the V8 Supercars use pushrod engines as opposed to Twincam DOHC or the like is because pushrod engines generally are alot more durable sure alot can go wrong with the tappets etc but they have there reasons and maybe even its to do with the easyness of ECU tuning as opposed to trying to work out 700,000 settings for VTTI or timing etc
@haydenwilliams700
@haydenwilliams700 5 жыл бұрын
PETER PERFECT AS ALWAYS !!! GO HOLDEN !!!
@markperkins8858
@markperkins8858 3 жыл бұрын
Don't no if anybody recognized this but that hatchback torana is the 1978 car how I no this is brocks number 05 in 1978 car was on straight in 1979 it was on sideways still love you brocky!!!!!!
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