One of the best bushes for the permaculture garden

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@familyfruit9833
@familyfruit9833 5 жыл бұрын
Also the flowers have an amazing perfume! I tried some of the fruit for the first time recently in my parents garden. Quite a pleasant taste, though not much pulp, as you say. Brought some pits home to grow.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I hope they grow well for you :)
@cakewhisperer7113
@cakewhisperer7113 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I didn’t know the name of this berry. I’m originally from Afghanistan and we use this berry and it’s so delicious! I remember the scent of this plant it amazing. For our New Years (1st day of spring) called Nawroz we soak this berry (we call Senjet in Dari/Farsi) other dried fruits and nuts to welcome the new year. This berry is one of the important berry that goes into making our Haft Seen mewa. It’s 7 S’s for Spring in Iranian version! Wow I’m excited to get the plant 🌱
@rhb30001
@rhb30001 2 жыл бұрын
@@cakewhisperer7113 wow I wonder what benefits they have for our bodies?
@isabelladavis1363
@isabelladavis1363 3 жыл бұрын
Great information well presented,I NEVER knew the plants were edible I just planted it as a privacy hedge and to say I love it would be an understatement ,ours grew so large we cut a gateway trough to the next property...had we planted two rows this would be an incredible tunnel or special place for a secret garden...thank you for your time...
@xinglinjiang4952
@xinglinjiang4952 2 жыл бұрын
does it tast good?
@elenastennett8660
@elenastennett8660 2 жыл бұрын
@@xinglinjiang4952 the fruits are tart, good for jams and syrups
@MK-js2ri
@MK-js2ri 2 жыл бұрын
How fast did they grow? I just planted some to block view from a very nosy neighbor. I am hoping that they grow 5’ in 6 months. 😆
@isabelladavis1363
@isabelladavis1363 2 жыл бұрын
@@MK-js2ri takes a few years but once established as long as it has a runner it will go on and on...SERIOUS PRIVACY IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WAIT!
@sammariti3686
@sammariti3686 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation, thanks very much. You are a very good teacher!
@wasimrashid2529
@wasimrashid2529 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know about this multi beneficial shrub and companion plant. Cheers from Pakistan
@debrab4729
@debrab4729 4 жыл бұрын
So cool about it taking nitrogen from the air and adding to the soil.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Isn't it? I have lots of nitrogen fixing plants throughout the food forest, saves me the trouble of fertilizing :)
@CortinasAndClassics
@CortinasAndClassics Жыл бұрын
I have just bought one of these. I can't wait to try the fruit.
@abc_cba
@abc_cba 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, you haven't been that active in 2021. Your videos are a treat with something to learn everytime. Please, do more videos regularly. Cheers from India 🇮🇳
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind message! I’m going through a bit of a burnout and it’s frustrating having lots of ideas for videos but no energy…
@elenastennett8660
@elenastennett8660 2 жыл бұрын
@@GrownToCook take all the time u need man, I understand these things are difficult to do when you already have stuff going on in your life Don't overwork yourself lol we enjoy ur content but only if ur happy to make it :)
@talialee6364
@talialee6364 3 жыл бұрын
It is so common and cheap in Turkey. I love silverberries
@sa7828
@sa7828 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again for the video!
@veganfreeburger9017
@veganfreeburger9017 Жыл бұрын
thanks for this very informative and funny video about the silverberry 😃
@PermacultureHomestead
@PermacultureHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
I love this plant. Grow it as a N+ fixing edible under trees
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Good to hear it is a good one for your climate too!
@konulaslan
@konulaslan 2 жыл бұрын
In Azerbaijani turkish we call it *iydə* and in my country they grow as a tree, not like shrubs and the seeds are thinner and a bit longer than the one you showed. 18.03.2022, 13:46
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! How do you use the fruit?
@Olvee
@Olvee 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, just planted 6pcs of these.
@jackthomsen7197
@jackthomsen7197 4 жыл бұрын
Grows quickly and fills the area with fragrance in fall. Like gardenias
@thisorthat7626
@thisorthat7626 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know. I love the smell of gardenias. Thanks!
@melstill
@melstill 5 жыл бұрын
This is very timely for a situation I need to fill, thanks! I'll need to investigate if it will work in my area and if I can find one locally. Learned something again. : )
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found the video informative! I hope the silverberry will prove suitable for your situation as well :)
@mcdutchoriginal
@mcdutchoriginal 5 жыл бұрын
Your video´s are always interesting, especially as I´m a landscaping apprentice with a mind for permaculture. I had no Idea there was an Elaeagnus that had edible fruit, I always thought of it as a bush that went out of fashion 20 years ago. Thank you for all the great info.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
Menno Catsburg Thank you, Menno! I’m glad you find the videos interesting!
@familyfruit9833
@familyfruit9833 5 жыл бұрын
Many other eleagnus with edible fruits! This isn't even supposed to be the best one for eating, though I haven't tried any others. Have a look at pfaf.org for a list. Or Martin Crawford's book "Creating a Forest Garden" has a good list.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
@@familyfruit9833 We have also 3 varieties of Elaeagnus umbellata (here's a video on one of them: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJbQdnyMoaefbcU) and E. multiflora. However, those are not evergreen and ripen in fall. I'd say they taste a little better, but the early ripening of silverberry is an important asset :)
@Erewhon2024
@Erewhon2024 4 жыл бұрын
So far as I know, all Elaeagnus have edible fruit, though not necessarily worth eating.
@BigAlSparks
@BigAlSparks 5 жыл бұрын
I was viewing one video after another on KZbin to find something evergreen edible , tall and thick for privacy. You just filled my entire search, and with one gorgeous girl to host it too, wow! No choice now but to subscribe! ;)
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@gretasgarden
@gretasgarden 5 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. I live on a very windy cold coast so I will source to see if I can find some to buy in my area. Thank you
@VK-qo1gm
@VK-qo1gm 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video re this shrub, great info thank you. I've just subbed, Cheers from Australia
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing, Valerie! It makes me so happy that my content is relevant to gardeners on the other side of the world too :)
@Erewhon2024
@Erewhon2024 4 жыл бұрын
Too fiddly to harvest, but I found Elaeagnus X-ebbingei flowers to be edible as well, reminding me of gardenia tea but without the bitterness. Do you think E. pungens (an ancestor of E. x-ebbingei, also evergreen and blooming at the same time, at least for me) would work as a pollination partner? For North Americans (many of whom have real winters) north of the Deep South, consider deciduous (spring bloom, summer fruit) E. multiflora instead. Be aware, however, that Russian olive and autumn olive have been declared illegal invasives in many states. So far, E. multiflora has been better behaved.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
hi Eric, thanks for sharing, I'll try the flowers when they next appear! We also have a video on another Elaegnus species here:kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJbQdnyMoaefbcU. I do not know whether E. pungent would work as a pollinator for E. ebbing - sorry!
@lja000
@lja000 3 жыл бұрын
The fruit is really hard to find! I have quite a few of these shrubs and I think the birds beat me every year! I didn’t know the pit was edible though...I saved about five of the seeds to see if they would grow. Have you tried growing from seed or just buy one already established?
@oishd6077
@oishd6077 3 жыл бұрын
I have tried growing it from a seed and it germinated fairly quickly. It also grew pretty fast but then in the second year we got very heavy rains and i think it choked in water and it died. 😭 I am planning on getting another and hence i stumbled on this video !
@nancychen2981
@nancychen2981 Жыл бұрын
I have those as new for one year more in UK and I did not pay attention to it. The last weeks the fruit are quite a lot and floor is full of them. Wonder what makes the differences? Maybe more bees here?
@georgestreetorchard
@georgestreetorchard 4 жыл бұрын
We see hundreds of these around the South Island of NZ and we have some here at home, however I have never seen more than a small handful of fruit per shrub. What is your experience with this? I have read they are self fertile but also read that they are not self fertile and need E. pungens or E. macrophylla for pollinization. E. multiflora (goumi) good for us in Dunedin, NZ (deciduous though). Thanks for the great videos!
@georgestreetorchard
@georgestreetorchard 4 жыл бұрын
oh sorry, I just realised you addressed this in the video! Must have been getting my coffee...
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, George! Pollination of Elaeagnus is something I would also like to know more about!
@100forms8
@100forms8 3 жыл бұрын
Have you found a cross pollinator silverberry? I have about 10 ebingeis and fruitlandiis. They produce huge amount of flowers but almost no berries.
@steveelkins52
@steveelkins52 5 жыл бұрын
4.28 ;) says it all really!
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Elkins 😆
@ASMRCOOKING462
@ASMRCOOKING462 5 жыл бұрын
, nice video Thanks for sharing 💕👍👍👍
@melodyscamman244
@melodyscamman244 4 жыл бұрын
"I planted this quite close to this WALNUT...". I'll be interested in learning how well this works out over time.
@moocrazytn
@moocrazytn 4 жыл бұрын
I've had walnut trees most of my long life. Surely they kill some of their neighbors, but not all because mine always have a variety of plants around them that I must clear out.
@melodyscamman244
@melodyscamman244 4 жыл бұрын
@@moocrazytn thank you for your reply... I've never planted walnuts because I'd heard that nothing grew under them...
@moocrazytn
@moocrazytn 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Grass grows under them. They are great pasture trees. I'm not sure what doesn't, but surely there is a list somewhere.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
The walnut we have is European walnut (Juglans regia) not black walnut which is more alellopathic. So far everything under the tree is growing great (check out the beginning of my latest video on Elderberry liqueur where I stand next to the tree :) ). I think the bigger problem is going to be the shade as the tree matures, not alellopathy. My parents have a mature walnut and I planted a Japanese wineberry underneath which is doing well, you can see a bit in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/farEqJmjnrmhhLc
@melodyscamman244
@melodyscamman244 4 жыл бұрын
@@GrownToCook thank you
@peaceandlove5214
@peaceandlove5214 2 жыл бұрын
interesting,what about using it as fodder too?
@spanishcuentos9947
@spanishcuentos9947 Жыл бұрын
What growing zone are you in? How cold does it get in your location?
@lancastermick
@lancastermick 8 ай бұрын
Forgive my horticultural ignorance, but if I progogate multiple silverberries from one bush, would that enable better future insect pollination?
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 8 ай бұрын
🤔that is a very interesting question! Normally (with apples or pears or blueberries…) you plant different varieties for cross-pollination. But at least where I live there aren’t really different varieties of silver berries available. So, I guess, it might still help?
@75shadystorm
@75shadystorm 7 ай бұрын
Where can you get them?! Im very interested.
@skaetzle
@skaetzle 5 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a very intersting plant! I went straight to my favorite nursery website to check it out. They say it is only evergreen in very mild climates and seldomly makes fruit... Would you mind telling me what zone you are in? We are about 7b in northern germany. I was thinking about a hedge of these as a seperation from the neighbours... and now i am not sure if it makes sense. Thanks for all the great videos, am really enjoying your content!
@familyfruit9833
@familyfruit9833 5 жыл бұрын
It's common to see fruits in South East UK. We can have quite mild winters though.
@skaetzle
@skaetzle 5 жыл бұрын
@@familyfruit9833 Thanks for your feedback! You are probably about zone 8 right? Maybe I just have to try =)
@familyfruit9833
@familyfruit9833 5 жыл бұрын
Had to look it up, yes apparently we're zone 8. Good luck!
@mydanishgarden3112
@mydanishgarden3112 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. I think it's 3 years old now? Have you been able to improve the harvest on the bush? We're going to be removing some of the trees in the garden and I'm thinking about what we can replace them with, these sound really good.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Johnny! The video is actually from May last year :) The bush has grown a little and we've had a bigger harvest, mainly on the older branches, so it seems the harvest improves. I cannot tell though about the pollination - according to the nursery they should be self-pollinating. Our neighbours have a bush but it is the same variety from the same nursery.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
You can see the silverberry this year in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/equ3e4yigNKWY5Y
@TheGeorgiaMediaGroup
@TheGeorgiaMediaGroup 3 жыл бұрын
You are so pretty.
@danebelarmino4809
@danebelarmino4809 Жыл бұрын
hello, does silverberry tolerate shade?
@georgitasi2511
@georgitasi2511 Жыл бұрын
Can eleagnus be affected by diseases? Thanks
@Gesundheit888
@Gesundheit888 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, could you please add in what US growing zone it can be grown right at the beginning.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
This bush is pretty hardy
@MartinD9999
@MartinD9999 3 ай бұрын
Mine are listed as USDA zones 6-11. Yes, wide range.
@azzahirfarm3937
@azzahirfarm3937 2 жыл бұрын
Bisa tunjukan bunga silver berry sis?
@maryhoffman9551
@maryhoffman9551 4 жыл бұрын
Silverberry sounds like a great addition to a permaculture garden. But can you tell me if it is a suckering type of shrub? And does it need full sun or can it take part shade? Thank you very much.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
It seems to be ok in part shade and it does spread a little but not very aggressively
@maryhoffman9551
@maryhoffman9551 3 жыл бұрын
@@GrownToCook I am planting 6 Olive Martini Silverberry this spring. Thanks for a very informative video. I appreciate all the details and also your response to my questions. :)
@paloma721558
@paloma721558 3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel!! could I plant an almond tree near silverberry?
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 3 жыл бұрын
HI Paloma! I don't see why not - as long as your climate is suitable for almonds (here they are too much of a gamble because of spring frosts). Do not plant too close to the tree though - I'd say at least 1,5 meters away
@caspianacres
@caspianacres 5 жыл бұрын
When I search for silverberry I found some "Elaeagnus commutata" but I think that is not the same shrub. Do you know how the two compare? Thank you!
@rungus24
@rungus24 5 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, many, if not all, of the different Eleagnus plants are sometimes called 'silverberry', according to wikipedia at least. The type here is what used to be called Elaeagnus x ebbingei, but is now called Elaeagnus × submacrophylla.
@Erewhon2024
@Erewhon2024 4 жыл бұрын
E. commutata is native to North America (Canadian prairie, I think), deciduous (spring bloom, summer or maybe fall fruit), more silvery in foliage. Its fruit is edible but mealy and not terribly palatable from what I've read.
@theinvincible7511
@theinvincible7511 3 жыл бұрын
How Silverberry taste like..??
@jennifernolen8111
@jennifernolen8111 5 жыл бұрын
Do you recall what the name of your walnut is? Thank you kindly!
@mcdutchoriginal
@mcdutchoriginal 5 жыл бұрын
It´s very likely a Juglans regia
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Nolen It is a tree with two varieties grafted on it: Broadview & Rode Donau (with red kernels!)
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
Menno Catsburg Yes, it is Juglans regia ‘Broadview’ and ‘Rode Donau’ - two varieties grafted on the same rootstock
@MHNL80
@MHNL80 5 жыл бұрын
How many walnuts can be harvested from a tree this size?
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
MH H It was just a handful last year, it takes a long time before they start producing fully
@OfisLab
@OfisLab 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know where i can find one of these close to Amsterdam?
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
OfisLab I ordered mine from nursery Arborealis (they have many great edibles for the permaculture garden) but as it’s often grown as ornamental, it is available from many nurseries
@OfisLab
@OfisLab 5 жыл бұрын
@@GrownToCook thank you very much. I will check it out nurseries closer to my house then.
@breadbread4226
@breadbread4226 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you source your plants?
@tinwhistle4367
@tinwhistle4367 4 жыл бұрын
Walnut tree is the worst tree to put near other trees.. There is a special substance which impairs the growth of other trees, bushes.. In the leaves of walnuts
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's called juglone. But not all plants are equally affected, many here (and in my parents'garden) seem to be completely fine. This is also the European walnut which is much less problematic than the black walnut.
@moocrazytn
@moocrazytn 4 жыл бұрын
I've always heard this, but black walnuts I've owned over the years are surrounded by other plants. So many plants and trees are immune. Surely someone has published a list of which are not.
@joebobjenkins7837
@joebobjenkins7837 2 жыл бұрын
Thats only when theyre stressed. And mulberries and PawPaws arent affected.
@zixianjia376
@zixianjia376 4 жыл бұрын
like your sweet voice
@bottletreefarm7669
@bottletreefarm7669 5 жыл бұрын
I have these growing. We call them Russian Olives ❤ You may say that in the video... I'm only a minute in 😃
@bottletreefarm7669
@bottletreefarm7669 5 жыл бұрын
Or maybe it's two different shrubs?? The description that came with my bushes several years ago said they were also called silverberry.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure - I think 'silverberry' is used for other bushes from this genus as well. It's often safest to use the Latin name, which in this case is Elaeagnus x ebbingei :)
@yLeprechaun
@yLeprechaun 5 жыл бұрын
@Bottletree Farm, russian olive is a very different plant. Same genus, but nowhere as nice to eat. The olives are really small and chalky. The russian olive also takes on a tree form by default, nowhere near as shrubby as the silverberry.
@TheGeorgiaMediaGroup
@TheGeorgiaMediaGroup 4 жыл бұрын
What is it
@unicorntv1232
@unicorntv1232 2 жыл бұрын
“Our climate” where r u ???
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, we're in the Netherlands but if you'd like to know more about what that means, I've made a video explaining our growing conditions in more detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGG8lX6Fd8anaq8
@ebybeehoney
@ebybeehoney 4 жыл бұрын
This looks a lot like something that is invasive in my state so I looked it up. Other Elaeagnus varieties are considered noxious weeds in the Midwest of the US, but x ebbingei seems not to be on that list. I'm glad because you've peaked my interest - especially for honey bee forage.
@GrownToCook
@GrownToCook 4 жыл бұрын
It is great for bees! But it is of course always good to be careful with invasive species. This one is quite different from E. multiflora and umbellata though, so hopefully not a problem in your area?
@katieking6845
@katieking6845 2 жыл бұрын
Everything's invasive if it could be
@katieking6845
@katieking6845 2 жыл бұрын
Trim and mow
@MartinD9999
@MartinD9999 3 ай бұрын
@katieking6845 You say Trim & Mow as if invasive species never spread from seed or cuttings that leave the immediate area by birds and wind 🙄
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