One of the Cheapest RC Buggy’s u can buy! But is it Any Good? - WLToys 104001

[@northeastrc2725]

Good car for someone starting off in rc . And nice cliff hanger 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, not to expensive

[@twain772]

Those tires are for off-road Phil, they are for hard-packed dirt tracks for racing. Anytime you get a small pin tire like that is is to give the vehicle grip on the harder dirt tracks. Great video my friend, Keep up the good work.

[@jadc]

I’m impressed at how not crap these are. Just returning to the hobby in middle age, so I’d never heard of them until a couple of months ago. The only thing I don’t like about them is what they mean for older brands like Tamiya. Tamiya clearly run on bigger profit margins than WL Toys, with plastic friction shocks at this price point, but perhaps spend more time on the looks of their buggies, usually with a nicer shape and decals etc. I much prefer the look of Tamiya stuff, but these seem to perform better...

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... I agree. It still bugs me that Tamiyas come with plastic bearings

[@swagytheswagboyq9424]

Love your videos and plz make that wltoys rwd and pro drift car

[@TomleyRC]

Drift car coming soon 👍

[@TomleyRC]

I'm not sure what happened to the end of this video... who's gonna watch the 40s of nothing haha. Feel free to grab me a Coffee while you wait: www.buymeacoffee.com/TomleyRC

[@MrYoohootuber]

Cliffhanger ending.

[@admin5322]

Greese those diffs

[@DavidPilcher83]

Just waiting for mine to arrive from banggood. It was delayed... but I’m still excited. Already ordered new tires and a brushless system for it also. Love your channel...

[@TomleyRC]

Should go well with a brushless set up 👍

[@calumflemingsrcs2213]

Loving the reviews really good to know what to buy and what not!👍👍

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers Calum

[@billy9506]

Oooh! This is a treat 🤗

[@lchadwick88]

I watch Kev Talbot a lot and your channel was recommended to me. I watched a few videos and then subscribed. Your editing has got so much better. Keep going pal. You will make it on KZbin. Good luck

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks for the support dude.

[@amorlove9512]

P0000

[@ReadySetRC]

I'm impressed! Looking forward to the comparison to the LC Racing. I've been eyeing that one for a little bit.

[@TomleyRC]

The LC Racing is a really nice buggy!

[@nickrobertson2450]

Got one of these on order, hopefully it'll arrive soon. I must say though that I do like your reviews/vids mate. Clear & to the point, no nonsence or overly ridiculous lets try & destroy it antics. I find most peoples running vids can be a bit dull but somehow the way you edit them & talk over them makes yours just a delight to watch. Keep up the good work mate!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Nick, comments like this are very helpful. I sometimes watch my videos back after editing and wonder if I’ve spoken to much.... or dragged it out to much. I try to balance them so there’s not to much dead space or repetitiveness. It’s does seem the current trend is to break stuff all the time.... I prefer to take stuff home without to much damage.... I don’t have time to repair stuff lol. Although if people want to break stuff then that’s there choice haha... I do enjoy watching some mindless destruction every now and then 😎

[@nickrobertson2450]

@@TomleyRC I have too much mechanical sympathy I think. As I say to my 8 year old daughter when we drive our Tamiyas: "we try not to do things that will break them, but we don't worry about them breaking while we're having fun, as we can just fix them later." Seems to work so far.

[@carvorka]

Woooohooooo , the review ive been waiting for for about a year haha. great stuff tomley rc as per.... i knew this would be decent for its price range. Just wanted to hear it from the man himself.

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers mate... it’s a decent price. Although I think the 124019 is the sweet spot for speed running

[@THYC]

This is going to be as popular as its predecessors! My 144001 lives on the dirt jumps 💪

[@TomleyRC]

Yes it may well be... although I think the 144 abs the 019 will still be very popular

[@kenmastersmaster]

Yeah I'm not digging this one. There's so many competitors at ten scale. But at 14 there's only the associated buggy but that one is brushless and only $199

[@davesrc_crawling8349]

3 wire servo FTW. Well said!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... why a 5 wire! Why!

[@NordicRC]

Good test. Funky ending ❣️

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@matteogilles4238]

Great content! I'm an old skool Tamiya fanboy with a few good kits looking for something to run without concern. I think this buggy is the way to go but need to make sure it's capable and ready for speccing to push it further. I'm behind you!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... seems ok, although not for the skatepark. But fine for a not of dirt/gravel etc

[@jev2867]

Finally! I have been waiting for a review on this.

[@brianargo9306]

Brushless with 4s power! I think would be a very nice ride!

[@jayhow997]

That chassis slap at the end though. Puts my teeth in edge .

[@rotten2209]

Hello James Howard. I am Jason Howard. BRO!!!

[@sandwichbar8226]

Hello James and Jason! I'm John Howard! 👍

[@fordy19]

Hi james Jason and john, I'm jim!

[@TomleyRC]

That was a head on in to a raised bit on the skate ramp 😅... it didn’t end well!

[@jayhow997]

@@TomleyRC nah just a few moments before that you jumped it on top of the box and it came down with an almighty slap , watched a few vids on these (as everyone is lol) seems to be a trait. RC kiwi's did a good vid at their dirt track noticed it a lot apart from that it looks ok if not a little front heavy.butb that don't really matter.

[@barrycheesemore2928]

Excellent video as always dude. I am very, very tempted to get myself one of these, it looks decent especially for the price. For me it will all depend on replacement parts and upgrade parts availability. I'll keep an eye out for those!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, replacement parts is always a factor. Wltoys are usually pretty good when it comes to that

[@paulhitch8097]

Looking 4ward to this.... Yes Tomly 👌

[@sharkusd]

You have to do a TV program for any channel, you are the man.

[@TomleyRC]

😎🤟

[@classicvwbugs]

@Thatcher Ephraim Hey I have been getting this BS spam on my channels too.

[@Fonzierc]

Very good looks to be a good rc

[@Chr.youn_g]

Thanks for the very informative video love it would you consider making it brushless

[@fordy19]

Lots of people do so I wouldn't be suprised

[@TomleyRC]

Yes maybe 👍

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty impressive little buggy, Tomley! 😃 Awesome bashing and review!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

And you dude

[@009ADVENTURES]

love it bud, cheers for a quality video as always 👍

[@TomleyRC]

No probs mate

[@robertdrinkall8947]

Looks great, nice to see them make a 10th scale. Looked on e-bay, dealers say available from May. Some of these dealers maybe suspect?

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah.. seen there are some delays

[@modelnutty6503]

lol yup, pups LOVE chasing RC cars. overall mechanically it looks fair enough, definitely needs a center slipper spur gear to help save from breaking/twisting drive line parts. the other possible is front+rear ball diffs, slip a dog bone out to adjust the tension, no little planetary gears to get broken. some older belt driven AWD's used them, they run fast+smooth+quiet without any bevel gears, drive cups+shafts etc. if they want to up their game that'd do it! I do like the older style buggy bodies better with the cab near+over the rear shock tower, the newer little scrunchy mid forward style cabs just look weird to me. front rims+tires could be a little wider and all 4 tires a little more aggressive for running carpet clay or dirt. carpet and clay do like sharp point mini pin spikes, but those don't last very long on dirt and clay.

[@TomleyRC]

I’m not sold on it just yet... I need to get out with it a bit more I think

[@islandrc-duke1972]

awesome rc and great review,have a great weekend brother

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude... and you 👍

[@islandrc-duke1972]

@@TomleyRC thank you

[@VallonesRCHobby]

Hey bro, love your content, if there is one thing I gotta comment on, it is the camera work in your studio parts in the beginning. It can be kinda jarring, it is very quick cuts, unstable camera, a lil tough on the eyes. But like always, I come back to watch. All the best. =)

[@TomleyRC]

I'm working on my POV elements... haha. But I get what you mean, remember the days when cameras had no stability! Appreciate the feedback dude 👍

[@VallonesRCHobby]

@@TomleyRC Ah it is all good bro, no worries. enjoy =)

[@gabrieljeavons8773]

Hello tomley great vid 😀

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@rcplaytime]

I like that buggy,good video👍

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@woodyuk1983]

What is the wheelbase? Want to know if a 1/10 rally body will fit it

[@TomleyRC]

I’ll try and remember to measure it

[@PeteWylieRC]

Nice one Phil. Well the dog liked it and that's always a good sign. Maybe the question at the end should have been 'is it wise to take this to the skate park?' because obviously you can take anything there that you can carry. Am I being pedantic? Anyway I enjoyed the gap at the end as it gave me a chance to think about whether I needed this buggy. I decided that I didn't :-)

[@TomleyRC]

Haha... good point Pete! I’m not sold in it yet... Skate Park video to come, then probably a comparison with the better quality LC Racing one, and final thoughts

[@Fisherman-gc1fw]

Nice review, thank you!

[@TomleyRC]

No probs dude

[@cds3650]

Which wud prefer on this out of a slipper or a center diff?

[@TomleyRC]

Probably a centre diff

[@RC-xz9oo]

I like, that most of Wltoys is cheap AND nice. I love your videos!👍

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@kenmastersmaster]

I just bought a 14 scale and notice the drivetrain is very tinny. The axles and dogbones need a coating because it's metal on metal.. Cheap zinc Also lot of play in the front wheels. Other then that it's a nice car. Motor gets hot pretty quick. Don't want to buy brushless for it because then it will cost $150 to $200 same as associated buggy

[@Motobaby540]

The ending was hilarious

[@redvikinghobbies]

Ordered mine but don't think it ships til May in the states.

[@jspence3798]

Ending skills like Line of Duty. Now I gotta watch the next one 😂.

[@TomleyRC]

Haha

[@markomitrovic3372]

Lovely video, bro👍👍👌👌

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers dude

[@letsgobrandon4163]

Don't forget to subscribe! He deserves it IMO!!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Ron!

[@crutch958]

Awesome rig and video, buggy is begging for Surpass or Hobby Star upgrade.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, a mild brushless should do it

[@rotten2209]

Besides the slightly bigger scale, would this roller be any better to go brushless on than the 124019? I have a castle 4600kv and Sw4 to toss in one of em but I actually cant decide which for some reason.

[@TomleyRC]

I think I prefer the 124019 over this... it’s a bit more ‘exciting’ 👍

[@PinoyRCDriver]

Great review @tomley waiting for your brushless conversion :D

[@TomleyRC]

Might get one in there at some point 😎

[@PinoyRCDriver]

Will watch again once you have the 104001 brushless conversion cant wait to see it :) im also lil be excited of the torture test i mean durability test in the skatepark nice teaser. ;)

[@onffworld6357]

Wow ❗❗❗ good 👏👏👏

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Been found diffs have no grease, and esc fan never goes on, you have to plug fan into the light port to be on all the time.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, there’s a little bit of grease, similar to the smaller ones. My ESC fan worked when it got a bit of temperature in it...

[@michalis5817]

Is there any mod available to fit a bigger size battery in there?

[@ISOSAILING]

looks nice enough but i only just got a hsp xstr witch by the time you put a brushless set up in that you'd be around the same price anyway and by the looks off it hsp has a lot better layout for everything, and it bloody shifts on 3s haha be intresting to see what it would do with the same set up side by side though

[@WarrantyVoids]

I have the WLToys k969 drifter and love it. Good quality for an amazing price, however it’s a pain in the nuts to get parts. Have they made parts more available for these units?

[@sassykat012283]

May as well wait until they come out with the brushless version. Thie brushed version isn't really fast. Still pretty cool car for the price!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah.. brushless would be better

[@dominicchesterman2107]

Would you take this over FTX Vantage? Can pick up Vantage with 2s Lipo, charger and the rtr set for about same price as this. Ftx would have better quality battery, charger and transmitter. But much less metal parts for £115.

[@RunThatRC]

Still on the edge on this one. Buggys aren't really doing it for me. I told BG I'll hold off to review something I'm more interested in. Good vid as usual.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, I get where you are coming from... I think I prefer the smaller ones to this. But it’s still a decent 1:10 buggy I’d that’s what people are looking for

[@modelnutty6503]

yup, we had GREAT buggies decades ago, belt drive and ball diffs FTW !!

[@kodak_jack]

For what you're going to spend on this plus having to change ALL of the electronics when the all-in-one (ESC,Receiver and servo driver) fails plus converting to brushless, you might better spend more for a hobby grade buggy and be done with it. Another review of this buggy ran into heat problems.

[@RunThatRC]

@@kodak_jack yeah the smaller ones where fun and cheap to tinker with but this one is just all hype and nothing new just another sub par buggy that needs hobby grade amount of money to mod. I agree get a name brand 10th scale buggy if you want a race buggy.

[@ValleyRC]

Seems like another budget winner from WL. The LC racing is pretty much an Xray clone so I guess this is too indirectly so it should perform well with brushles power.

[@TomleyRC]

The LC Racing is really well put together!

[@wordreet]

Well, all UK model shops are open, and none seem to be selling this. Even so, it could be a great starter buggy if someone's thinking about starting racing. On the other hand, for the same sort of price, you're very likely to find a better machine used from a club member.

[@TomleyRC]

It would be much better if there were some UK suppliers!

[@male469]

Will it take 3s stock

[@sassykat012283]

I have seen some other use a 3s but don't completely recommend it, it runs on the hot side.

[@TomleyRC]

I have seen others do it yeah

[@chm2]

Any concerns about the durability of this buggy when it comes to jumping, considering it doesn't have a slipper clutch or a center diff?

[@roadstar499]

does it handle better than the 1/12 scale wltoys purple buggy when it was stock? thanks for sharing

[@TomleyRC]

Yes it handles a bit better as it’s bigger, but the 1/12 is probably still my favourite

[@roadstar499]

@@TomleyRC yeah i have 2 144001's that are great for me...i put drift wheels on one...

[@roblowrie1969]

Another great looking car from WLToys. It'll be interesting to see if it has any of the same issues as the 144001 had? 👍🏻

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... I’ve already picked a few minor things up. Next video should give a bit more info

[@540_god.p5]

Nice

[@joshdsm1]

When are you reviewing the lc10b5

[@TomleyRC]

I need some tyres and electronics for it first

[@philthyco1]

These are cool for street runs and what not but the metal is super cheap and bends easy..At least the smaller versions do

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I go over that in the skate park video. It’s good for the price, but not perfect by any means

[@AdventuresByR]

You should do a fpv build

[@Woolsupgamers5]

Is LC racing just rebranded Wltoys? I'm quite confused

[@TomleyRC]

LC Racing is much better quality

[@tahustvedt]

The specs say 255 mm width? Is that true? If so that's a big mistake by WL as the maximum legal width for racing is 250 mm.

[@TomleyRC]

I’ll have to measure it and see. Might be to do with the wheel offsets

[@tahustvedt]

@@TomleyRC It needs to be under 250mm with handout wheels (standard Schumacher usually).

[@RAGEJONO]

Nice review dude ! :)

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@andreRC88]

U forgot the wltoys 12423 And the 12428 to they great too 😉 love my one but very interested in that one now

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I was talking more about the buggies

[@Xofroggy]

eventually ill get one of these, ill let everyone have fun with em first see what breaks lol

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, good idea lol

[@NathanStorer-RC]

Ending on the cliffhanger!

[@fordy19]

Have you got a new camera? The quality looks great

[@TomleyRC]

Not new, but have been playing around with software settings etc... 👍

[@gees5563]

Nice video 👍 I’m fairly new to your channel I just want to let you know that I love watching your videos you have a lot of great info thank you keep it up 👍👊💯✌️

[@TomleyRC]

Cheers mate... appreciate the support 👍

[@fumasrcs1886]

More power! More speed!

[@carvorka]

Soooo im wondering where i my money should go???... i knew this would be good when it finally was released, but i also really like the ftx zorro. Id upgrade to brushless on them if i got one or the other but wonderd what you or other folks wich one would you choose?? T.i.a

[@luissimoes8106]

As always, Great and Honest Review 👌 The car, I mean all the chassis, drive train and build seem good as other models but there's this thing "I don't understand"; why do they keep building them with an 2 in 1 ESC/Receiver ?🤷‍♂️ I'm not even talk about being "under dimensioned", reason for so many burn with the original batteries, and in this model it was already added a fan and heatsink, so they know the "combo" is not very "capable". But being at this point and "status", in great part due to you guys (KZbinrs) that make this reviews, it should be time to improve theirs electronics. I'm not saying to build cars with brushless motors but having the opportunity to put in a better ESC without having to swap the radio that are in fact Very Good. On their crawlers models it would be quite alright... I mean, they weren't meant for speed but on this later platforms it's just not ok, and you can't even get the maximum of that 550 brushed motor. When you go to a track, you will see that the car sticks on it but it kinda of craves for more power; but again, to improve the ESC you're almost obliged to swap the radio. Don't get it why they don't give a step forward in order to be better and helping WlToys Fans/Community... more 10 euros for car and it would be a real brand statement and fans contentment 🤷‍♂️ You "don't do torture tests" ? Phil, it will be always in mind the beating you gave to the 144001 on the Skate Park 👌👌👌 just amazing and quite needed to real access to the chassis futures😁 Nice work mate; Just keep on Bringing It 😎

[@TomleyRC]

Yes 100% agree on the 2 in 1 ESC.... they go to the trouble of giving you nice alloy, oil filled dampers... a good looking buggy, then slap you in the face with a 5 wire servo and 2in1! Oh yes, the 144001 beating, lol... I’m blaming Bearded RC for egging me on!

[@luissimoes8106]

@@TomleyRC LoL, you know who to blame better then anyone 😆 Still, I wouldn't mind to be blamed for it; I know that it can be very expensive with some cars but very pertinent for buyers; taking a chassis to that level of stress is the ultimate test of the materials and construction; we became with the entire knowledge of what it can happens and its weaknesses. For me it's fundamental information as an hobbyist / potential buyer 👌 On the other hand, there are guys that just Love to see that kind of abuse 🙂😉

[@davidpiper3652]

Can you take it to the skate park? Yes, you can! THUD! Or not, as the case may be ... Looks perfect for a few hop ups and mods.

[@TomleyRC]

Lol

[@paulbowen7808]

Are you planning on getting the Enoze 202E? Looks a cool 1/10th basher.

[@rj_gaming9007]

Awesome video as always mate. Wheres this location if you dont mind me asking

[@TomleyRC]

Lincoln 👍

[@jamaicarctv9587]

nice video man 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@snuzum06]

The white van men are coming to get you!

[@adrianpilbeam7403]

Looks like a good solid cheap buggy mate. Wife says no though.... lol

[@TomleyRC]

Lol... pesky wife’s!... always ruining the fun!

[@adrianpilbeam7403]

@@TomleyRC Haha... Should have seen the blood drain out of her when I showed her the Kraton and the X Maxx.... lmao

[@jeffbryner5355]

I.love the wanna be sanwa transmitter 🤣🤣. You should take that thing to a track and do a club race. See how it handles on the track over jumps and around corners compared to the race cars. If it's better then the xrays, tlr , and associated. I may buy one haha.

[@TomleyRC]

I am trying to arrange some track time 👍

[@jeffbryner5355]

@@TomleyRC saweet!!

[@nickrobertson2450]

Ending. Crunch! D'Oh! Ha ha ha! 😁

[@michaelcliffe562]

Great vid as always! Whats the point of this buggy though, with it's brushed setup, tiny battery and 5 wire servo? I love the smaller wltoys because of their big brushed motors in small cars which makes for good performance, but that advantage goes out the window here in this 1/10th scale car. Ther're are so many cheap BRUSHLESS RTR buggys in the 1/10th segment..

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I agree... 550 motor in the 144001 was crazy, and made it a rocket! This though... should have gone brushless

[@aaronjohnson8365]

I told you months ago you were going to get one I don't know if you remember this conversation 😂😂😂 I bought mines last night from banggood now I'm looking at a turnigy XK 3650 5400kv brushless motor

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah I do 😎👍

[@catcancrunch7260]

As always wltoys quality seems very good for the money, and I love the looks 👍 but this thing is so slow??? And that’s what is putting me off !!! I would swallow on paying more for a half decent brushless setup ! We need speed! Greasy fast speed I tell yah !!! Seriously don’t wltoys watch what we do with the buggies they make? Why why didn’t they get the hint???

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah agree.... charge a little extra and put a brushless in there!

[@rcworxshop]

🤔🤔🤔 might have to get one, that servo though 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... a 5 wire! 😅

[@johnsrcstuff7936]

Are you doing anymore live broadcast's Tom?

[@TomleyRC]

Next month 👍

[@panzadeviborarc9613]

Great vid!! Very interesting car!! Looks to be great make upgrades and mods with this rig. I like a lot the size!! Have a gret day Bro!!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I think many people will upgrade

[@rcpete7055]

Mines on processing Bangood 😝 You've become a bit matter of fact lately m8? 😊 Wait come to think of it you always have been 😂🤣🇬🇧🙉

[@TomleyRC]

KZbin has taught me over the last few years that it doesn’t matter what you say... or do.. you will never please everyone. So I’m just being my normal self now haha. Well... I’ve been pretty much my normal self from the start. 😅

[@rcpete7055]

@@TomleyRC like it😊 I think it takes a while to find your groove😎 and your smooth sailing now👍

[@modelnutty6503]

@@TomleyRC bingo, never worry about what others think, be yourself. if they don't like it let them buy some play-dough to try and shape, along with the crayola's, in their little safe space!

[@frasersteen]

Its good the barbers are open again isn't it?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes 😎🤘

[@frasersteen]

@@TomleyRC 1000%

[@fredhobby4629]

Nice and i already have 144001,still standard.But the new 104 in that scale are great and got plenty space for upgrades/modifications 👍nice review,greetings from 🇲🇾

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I’m sure lots will but and upgrade

[@juliusdream2683]

LC racing is about 500 dollars more than the cheap WLTOYS. There a blast till they break. Got four runs out of my 12 scale WLTOYS the purple one. Was fast yest but screws were stripping bolts snapping and the car exploded on a turn literally the back end just came apart.

[@billygoodman6969]

Finally got the buy me a coffee to work so I bought you 2

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks Billy... appreciate the support :)

[@413RC]

Why is it so damn SLOW?! I just released my video as well and will compare against the LC10B5 too lol!

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, it’s a bit disappointing in the speed department. They should have made it brushless

[@413RC]

@@TomleyRC Going to bump the pinion and see what happens. I ran it on 3S shortly today and is started to smell funny :X

[@DoRC]

I don't understand why these companies don't pay some English speaking person to tell them what verbiage to put on there vehicles. Seriously how hard is it?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I’ve said that before...

[@awangasfia7490]

104001 or 124019 which is better?

[@TomleyRC]

I personally prefer the 124019

[@awangasfia7490]

@@TomleyRC alright thanks❤️

[@Alex_Pasu]

Try to fit a 1/8 or 1/7 brushless system in it, see if it goes 107 like the big rock xD

[@TomleyRC]

I’m not sure it would take it lol

[@k1ortia]

It would be interested if someone rocked up with this at pro race, against Losi, and Team Accociated ect..🤔

[@mick270]

They could rock up with one against top brands an get flogged every race if they wanted to I guess 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@asharc6145]

3 wire servos please, you got it dead right.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... why put a 5 wire in!