One rock stops two trains

I heard some scanner traffic where 4944 told the dispatcher he'd just had someone throw a rock at his windshield as he was leaving Liberal, Ks westbound. The rock shattered the engineer's side windshield and it was difficult to see through, especially heading west into the sun. The dispatcher contacted 8654 west who was behind 4944. 8654 was a Ztrain with a 2x1 setup and the dispatcher asked if his second unit was facing forward. 8654 said it was, so it was decided that 4944 would stop at the first siding in Tyrone, Oklahoma and they would swap it with the Z train's second unit. The act of one vandal caused two crews to be delayed by over an hour and the line to be tied up during the change. the item handed from the cab at the end was a timetable and siding info booklet.

[@TrainLover_79]

I've been looking everywhere for this video!! I've been watching this since my childhood!! Truly amazing!

[@BollocksUtwat]

What is it about railroads and their operations? Watching this stuff makes me feel like a 7 year old all over again.

[@jasonsage1417]

BollocksUtwat i know what you mean.. i have a decent trainz simulator... and im like model railroading and that program are silly and a waste of time boring.... so boring.... but they look so cool.... the i fi d myself all into them again... these videos help the spark..... maybe itll make me want to play my game hAha

[@Rockstar-td8mh]

Is English your second language?

[@mikem8277]

BollocksUtwat zv

[@rxrcond4life]

Two rule violations so far... Employees must not ride lower rungs of ladder or car over road crossings. Brakeman failed to 'stretch' the hook when coupling back against his train. We won't tell anyone!!!

[@richardpiper940]

P*Funk nn

[@jamesedwards7241]

Had a Driver (Engineer) I worked with turned into a cabbage by children throwing bricks at locomotives near Leeds (UK), spent his final years like that and never recovered. I often wonder these days if those children and there uncaring parents ever knew what they had achieved for that moments amusement.

[@robertgift]

+James Edwards Was this made public (news media) so the children learned the harm that they unintentionally did?

[@stavinaircaeruleum2275]

Sorry to hear...

[@AJ67901]

It would be fascinating to see where a container goes during its lifetime. All over the world I'm sure.

[@BBT609]

3:29...boy he SLAMMED into the train lol. but he can't really see lol.

[@6yjjk]

+BBT609 Yup, there goes the other windshield!

[@grasscutter88]

Probably just pissed off. lol

[@SolidCold]

BBT609 RIP coupler

[@rhettscal]

I think they call that a collision.

[@Firestorm2814Sector]

Conductor did a terrible job slowing him down for an easy coupling 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@AdmiralCreideiki]

Gotta say I love the number on the loco that replaced 4944. Anyone else a fan of M*A*S*H?

[@ZachPumphery]

+AdmiralCreideiki That engine has asterisks done with a sharpie between the numbers on the inside of the cab. The only reason I know that is because I'm the one that did it.

[@jamesholcombe435]

AdmiralCreideiki that would be 4077

[@thatpurpleshortbed3097]

LITERALLY RIGHT BEFORE THE REPLACEMENT CAME IN ME WITH MY ADHD SELF STARTED THINKING ABOUT MASH AND WONDERED IF THWRE WAS A TRAIN NUMBER 4077 AND THEN IT HAPPENED.

[@charleskettering2626]

You caught that too!! What is the chance of seeing this loco?

[@animehaven886]

that slam when that train hits the front of the consist rocks that front cab😂

[@AJ67901]

you could almost hear the Homer Simpson "DOH" when he bumped..

[@kevins1114]

I wonder how many tens of thousands of dollars were wasted because of the actions of one cretin?

[@-BUGZ-]

not any. maybe 10s of dollars.

[@kevins1114]

Brett Graham Try learning a little about transportation costs in these times before automatically dismissing such things. Stopping trains needlessly affects more than just the individual train itself.

[@BandoBeastUrbanExploration]

Brett maybe not because trains are worth a LOT of money.

[@-BUGZ-]

+Kevin S i admit defeat and i thank you for the newfound knowledge my friends. respect.

[@josephfoster3819]

+Brett Graham probably alot for a new train window for than 10s of dollars

[@ZombieTide]

That is a hard slam recoupling to that Z train. Very abrupt. lol

[@kleetus92]

Wow no kidding... whiplash anyone?

[@MasterTech58]

Anything under 5mph is acceptable for pinning

[@stuff_n_thanngs7552]

@@MasterTech58 under 4. But 4 with light power is pretty firm.

[@MidwesternRailfan]

Ah man... They threw a rock at an SD70M.

[@BallistaTheDeer]

STOPPING THE TRAIN IN GTA 5: CAN A ROCK STOP IT???

[@afizhafranrakyatkungkingka4078]

yes

[@picobyte]

It's why we have video games in the first place.To stop idiots doing this stuff in the real world :D

[@datbich2436]

Grifimus No

[@maxvilla5558]

Putting anything on the train tracks is a federal crime

[@dethklokemployee]

Max Villa obviously have no clue what the comment meant you replied to...

[@aznspdrcr]

Man,what an unforunate situation,hope they find the person that threw the rock.

[@DFWRailVideos]

What’s funny is that this video is still being recommended ten years later. Really goes to show how the algorithm works!

[@Milwaukeeroadfan]

look carefully everyone. The SD70MAC's windshield is damaged at 0:38 along with the opened door through the first few seconds of the video from 0:00 to 1:32. But the brand new SD70ACE is seen at 0:00-0:59, 1:56-4:14 and 4:55-7:34 which is undamaged and stopped to help, and engine 4077(SD70M) is the replacement engine for 4944(SD70MAC) with the broken window!

[@Milwaukeeroadfan]

***** oh yeah, those ones look simular

[@msj191961]

That's some great teamwork on the crew's part!

[@tm13tube]

There is another video of a young man who threw a rock at a train, it ricocheted, hit him and knocked him out with an arm and leg over the track. He lost his arm, leg, and some fingers. I think it was part of a series of clips from Australia showing the trauma the engineers suffer when their train hits a pedestrian or vehicles with fatalities.

[@Ry_guy7]

ITS CRAZY HOW JUST 1 tiny ROCK CAN STOP 2 TRAINS!

[@fjb4932]

Ryan Wickes, "...tiny..." Reminds me of the guy that wore a 5.56/.223 bullet on a thong around his neck. Had done his tour in 'Nam and when asked what the bullet was for, said it was to remind him how little it takes to fuck up your whole life ...

[@krzysfilip3127]

True

[@cartersol38]

On the old BCR in Canada,(formerly the PGE-Pacific Great Eastern), we had similar problems. Locals would place ties across the rails along with fish plates and tie-plates and wire them down, in the hopes of derailing a train. I invite Engineers and brakemen to share their stories with us. It's something the Public -at-large , needs to read and hear about! You never know if you are going to get home safely!

[@tejasnite]

Yeah we were taught by parents and school teachers to stay away from the train tracks, which means that if you screwed up some thing, and the neighborhood rumors came back,,, YOUR BUTT WAS BUSTED,,, BY DAD,,, NO IF MAYBES,,,, Dead beat PARENTS TODAY

[@espeescotty]

Neat video and great quality and shooting. The engineer on that Z-train must've been feeling the pressure to get rolling judging by that hard coupling. If you look closely, you can actually see the Isolated cab of that ACe jumping in a different plane than that of the nose. I didn't know those cabs could move so much. And the smoke from that -9 was nice to see. Just like GE's of old. Great video!

[@RajaRhodes]

One thing I’ve learned working for UP is an Intermodal train is only classified as a “Z” train (ZNPOA-09 for example, the train symbol) if it is carrying one or more UPS or FedEx Trailers. Other wise it is only an “I” (Intermodal) Train (ILAG3-11 for example)

[@pjt759]

I loved it.. I love the sound these big babies make.. My hats off to the men who run these engines...

[@NashRailfan]

3:27 that SD60 in the rear hit the intermodal HARD and the SD70 bounce lol

[@AbelG8781]

Both SD70s no 60s

[@CPWindsorsub]

That was a hard coupling at 3:24!

[@SMOBY44]

+CPWindsorsub About as bad as the one at 5:22.

[@CPWindsorsub]

+SMOBY44 You could definitely tell the crews wanted to get the hell out of there asap lol.

[@SMOBY44]

***** Agree. Awesome to see a 200 ton locomotive jump like that. Wonder what the cab view was like.

[@CPWindsorsub]

SMOBY44 Lol. I thought the cab came off of the SD70ACe at first.

[@sowegarailproductions4089]

+CPWindsorsub Lol

[@allendavis8568]

Your videos are really great and fun to watch! I enjoy your railroad videos after a long day at work. Please post more.

[@RattleCanRickey]

thanks for sharing, that sd70ace backed into his train aweful hard, saw the entire engine jolt. awesome to see how maneuvers like this are performed.

[@southnashvillerailfan]

I agree. He really slammed into that thing. the crew mustve gone flying across the locomotive cab!

[@billhibbeler]

The trailing locomotives can point in either direction. The last one in the set, if positioned correctly, should point "backwards" so when the set gets to the terminating point for the train, the set does not have to be "turned", which saves a little time. Some terminals don't have a "wye" or turntable so the inbound set is just moved to the next train, and the set is positioned correctly.

[@pennsylvanianrrfoamer]

I'm sure it's a federal crime to throw anything at trains

[@ph11p3540]

I would guess it carries the same penalties as causing mischief on an airliner. The penalties are pretty heavy up here in Canada at least with $75000 fine plus up to 5 years in a federal prison. You can bet it's more serious down there in the US.

[@tokahontas9990]

yea you don't want to get caught doing something like that in the us lol, we give out insane fines for some of the smallest thing's lol

[@HobbyOrganist]

Only IF the thug is caught which is real unlikely, chances are it was some teen thugs playing one of their so called "pranks" as the media calls it

[@HobbyOrganist]

Except in the case of a juvenile their name doesn't even get published and they can KILL someone and basically get a slap on the wrist and be out of jail age 18

[@sun1052]

Can i throw air at trains?

[@fighting17chicago]

Was it just me or when the Z locos were hooking back up, did he slam that coupler a little hard?! The whole lead loco bobbed like a dolphin!

[@jpatt1000]

I wonder if the guy inside got whiplash! It made the locomotive stop pronto!

[@conpump]

Yeah, he's not a switch yard engineer and he didn't have a ground guide to watch his approach. He isn't very good at hooking up without eyes on the ground, for sure!

[@Kentucky_Trainiac]

The train was like"Owwww!! That hurt!!"

[@conpump]

JakesGP35 Nice troll...

[@doubleutubefan5]

I'm sure he was just testing the suspension

[@AJ67901]

he's telling me I did a good job of filming the incident

[@BNSF7776]

Neat catch Jim, GSR sure does have alot of nice crews and always fun to see power swaps. 5*****

[@railfanwill3450]

Awesome catch, it looked like EMD SD70ACe #8629 and SD70M #4944 hit those intermodal cars pretty hard when recoupling

[@brucemoose9587]

at first i was thinking a large rock was in-between the 2 tracks so it "stopped" two trains,,, but someone crashing a windshield with a rock can clearly tie up 2 trains, as they SWITCH the engines out,,, nice vid and complete story as well

[@neilwildeboor514]

It means put the brakes on in maximum (emergency)position. It makes reference to the size of the port on the air brake control valve. This is a very old expression among rails.

[@Basicbill]

Right place and right time for you. Nice narrative and editing. Bill

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[@Primal67060]

Damn, he must have been pissed. He hit those cars hard as hell at 3:30.

[@alvinshakoor787]

Love the way the diesel engines sound. Especially at night. You can here it for miles

[@stereopolice]

Very professional footage; nice work!

[@oregonianrails7176]

This is an AMAZING video. great channel.

[@blowemall]

@8:48 Dash 9 is like here u go EPA!

[@raquel8756]

emall low lol

[@desertbob6835]

GE = Garbage Engines

[@ns_guy5149]

DeserT BoB not all are garbage Just some are old and are starting to give out

[@northstarstatepolitics1652]

EPA is Trash

[@WasatchGarandMan]

it's trying to Channel the ghost of ALCo

[@AJ67901]

He dropped me an expired book showing the sidings and their lengths for this division. The UP crews on this sub have always been pretty cool to me :)

[@davidmathay7117]

Damn! That lash-up after the engine swap was a little harsh. Sheesh!

[@gravelydon7072]

As we would say: " That'll do when you get her stopped. " One very hard coupling indeed.

[@oilersridersbluejays]

You're safe under 5 miles an hour. But yeah, I bet these crews were pissed right the fuck off in the first place (I know me and my engineer would be) and were tired of needless fucking around because of vandals.

[@nbagoats4819]

3:24 - coupling was brutal. He was def over 7 mph for that coupling. My dad is a retired engineer and have said that the safest coupling is at 3 mph, to avoid damaging or even breaking a coupler. Anything faster and you risk damaging a coupler. 5:20 - was the picture perfect way to couple.

[@penncentral8885]

Had some kids throw a rock at me one time in a SW1200 and 15 loads, I was going about 15 mph, I grabbed a hand held radio, bailed off the engine on the firemans side (Conductor thought I'd lost my mind) told him on the way out (You're runnin' now!) bailed off in a run BACK on the other side of the train, and CAUGHT the kids riding the side of the grain cars!

[@carmichaeltrainproductionc9663]

Hay there I just stumble on to the video great stuff love the smoke show at the end and very proud to be a subscriber also!!

[@AJ67901]

+Carmichael Train Production Channel 327 Thank You very much!

[@AJ67901]

thanks for the nice compliments. I'm sure the engineer wished his coupling would have been a little smoother since he knew he was on cam.

[@generaltophat5877]

Welp instead of using the phrase "hitting 2 birds w/ 1 stone" I will say "delaying 2 trains w/ one rock

[@ronselliers6951]

Never a dull moment in the Dispatch Center.

[@AJ67901]

I'm sure you're right on that. It was the fastest way to get the mhnep back in business. The Z train was stopped for about 40 minutes, which is very rare.

[@LSZocker2009]

3:25 Slowly, slowly, slowly.....OUCH!

[@AJ67901]

I agree, he hit it harder than he expected to. BTW, I don't think UP ever bought any SD70M-2s. I believe theirs are all ACe's. Thanks for watching :)

[@FishplateFilms]

Nice catch with smooth pan and zooming!, very nicely shot. Cheers Gregg

[@RaisedLetter]

Good god when 8654 & 4944 coupled to the Z-train. They really shook.

[@AJ67901]

Thanks for the nice compliment. I recently moved and hope to get started making some more videos.

[@almostserious75]

At the very beginning I read, 'A liberal threw a rock' haha...Thanks for the vid!...

[@HustleMuscleGhias]

I saw something like this happen once with a Norfolk Southern coal train in the early 1990s. The two trailing units were facing rearward. It didn't seem to phase the crew any, they ended up having the second unit run "elephant style" ( long hood forward ). It has been a long time since I have seen a C-39-8.

[@everettrailfan]

Elephant style is when all the locomotives are facing forward, not LHF.

[@HustleMuscleGhias]

@@everettrailfan I find it funny that this comment should get a notification 8 years later. The classical definition of what was "forward" was entirely different on Norfolk Southern for the first decade of its existence and throughout the history of the Southern, and Norfolk and Western than what what most railroads defined as "forward." Referring to the my original comment mentioned above, on the C-39-8 the long hood was designated as forward, and thus qualifying running elephant style. Chris R. Toth has a book called "Norfolk Southern Diesel Locomotives" ( ISBN 188308914X ) that shows a picture of I believe two C-39-8 running long hood forward with a caption of "running elephant style". Being that I'm on the road at the moment and won't be home for several months, I can't cite the specific page number, or link you to a scan of that page, but if you go to his FB page, NSDash9 DOT com, and mention this particular book, Mr. Toth I'm sure would be more than happy to share with you that specific page and caption with you. We can debate the meaning of elephant style, but it is generally assumed to mean in a uniform direction - circus elephants trunks grabbing tails, or as the military would say, "@$$es to belly button."

[@AJ67901]

Thanks for the compliment!

[@jeffreymurray4691]

Did you notice at the 5 minute mark that there is a person about 20 feet off of the track hiding in the ditch?

[@CSXEMDTrainLover]

nice video aj and great catch up all the up train's in your video.

[@AJ67901]

Thanks for commenting, It surprised me as well, I'd have been way too chicken when I was a kid to try anything like that!

[@AJ67901]

Thanks for your comment. I suspect the vandals were way more garden-variety than any terrorist sect :) The engineer was not happy when it happened. It's the first time in 5 years I've ever heard of such a thing around here. Oh well, I thought it might make an interesting video.

[@conpump]

There are two windshields in the locomotive. Why not use the other side? **I was just informed that the controls are not the same on both sides so I was wrong and have deleted my previous comment**

[@AJ67901]

Engineer's controls are on the right side only - facing forward. The conductor on the left side has a horn button, emergency brake lever and speedo. The loco cannot be driven from the left side.

[@conpump]

AJ67901 I stand corrected. Thank you for info. I'll edit my post.

[@KristianBennett]

but still the guy on the other side if there is one can tell them to slow down, stop, red light, train coming, etc

[@eoinpkav152]

Since lacmagantac it has been illegal to to run a locomotive without a conductor. Even if the conductor could tell the engineer to slow down (which we do) what use would it be if the engineer was deceased or injured? We are trained to operate locomotives and do so on occasion.

[@DieselElevators]

Very kind conductor there at the end.

[@Incognito-vc9wj]

I’m assuming the incident happened about a mile down the track.

[@redbarnz]

That was some rough coupling at 3:30!!! BAM!!!

[@AJ67901]

yes, I think he was surprised when he realized his reconnect wasn't exactly graceful. Of course he's probably smooth as silk when the camera's not on him!

[@JaredDunbar]

Quite a bump for that locomotive crew at 3:29

[@trainzguy2472]

"Shattered windshield stops a train and the rescue train crashes into itself"

[@levicats123]

I have to say you really did a good job filming the scene

[@godlyhiddeneagle6179]

I hope they find that dips**t and nail him with the expense of the replacement windshield as well as a hard fine

[@KevinBenecke]

And they should've also made whoever did it pay for the wasted time. Especially if it made the trains late.

[@nssteampunk4865]

Whoever threw that rock has NO respect for Class I, II or III railroads!!! This will NOT be tolerated!!!!

[@kcirrednosrednad3596]

cool upload. ya know, I'm almost certain that I've seen 4077 up here in northern Illinois. i live by the union Pacific line too.

[@BOXAXIU]

I was talking about the locomotives behind the leader one, anyway you answered my troublesome queston, Thanks a lot.

[@secludie]

my mother told me about when someone in our family put rocks on the tracks and had one of those pump cars tip over.

[@tchnofile]

The z train is one of the biggest money makers for UP. When that thing gets delayed, the executives in Omaha know about it right away. Bet they weren't too happy about this!

[@tggarfieldgaming6950]

UP diesel: exists Rock: im gonna stop you right there.

[@zackboone15]

I thought these windshields are suppose to be rated to stop .22 bullets and cinder blocks

[@AJ67901]

the windshield performed as expected and remained intact, it was just impossible to see through with all of the cracks, especially heading west into the sun.

[@Mr.PudgeMuffin]

wait they're actually small arms proof!?! for what exacly? besides shit thown at them

[@AJ67901]

review some bullet resistant glass videos and you'll see that they all break and have spiderwebs. The clear plastic membranes between the layers of glass keeps any projectiles from penetrating. This windshield held its integrity and did not collapse into the cab, but its visibility was compromised and it was not legal to proceed with it in that condition.

[@RC-nj1by]

they fracture just the same. They just don't shatter into pieces. Check how bulletproof glass works.

[@jasonsage1417]

Brandon Oreto they added the, dead man switches at least if an engineer passed out or something... when the buzzer rings , and they dont hit the i am alive button, the train stops. its still a runaway until that happens though

[@AbhinavLHB]

Awesome !! Nice video, subscribed to your channel ! The GE loco was smoking a lot !

[@AJ67901]

Thank You, for a video I didn't think was a big deal, it has the most views of any I've done. Thanks for the Sub, I hope to get out and catch some new EMD tier 4s soon and post another video or two.

[@AJ67901]

Thank you sir :)

[@BNSF1571RailfanProductions]

Geez, both couplings were hard.

[@spartonboat1]

Pretty hard coupling at 5:15 as well...the front of the loco "jumped", when it coupled up. Hard get those baby's to "hop"...!

[@shnimmuc]

Great video, thanks.

[@AJ67901]

Thanks Bill

[@purplealice]

I'm sure the person who threw the rock was never caught nor punished...

[@Railfantastic]

5:22 oww! Unfortunate for the engineer of 4944, some teen probably delayed everything by around 3 hours.

[@Shane-Singleton]

Cool that he tossed that out to you at the end. I wonder if they ever caught the shit that threw the rock.

[@shnimmuc]

Great video. Thanks

[@AJ67901]

@BNSF7776 Thanks Sylvester, I had to see if I'd forgotten how to shoot video. This was a good subject to get back to it. The crews are great on this line for sure!

[@mywhittleshortlinetrains3774]

Dang, that AC4400 is smoking.

[@Thej611]

8:54 man that engineer is having a really shitty day. First his windshield is shattered by some idiot with a rock and now his number 2 unit is starting to smoke heavily.

[@ZachPumphery]

+Justin Newhall If there were a list of things that engineer doesn't care about, that smoking second unit is at the bottom of it.

[@shorelinerailproductions]

He smokes tobacco

[@xncl2367]

Ik this comment is 5 years old so you may already know what I'm gonna tell you. It is normal for trains to have black smoke and sometimes even a few flames coming out of the exauhst. It's just materials stuck to the exhaust heating up and burning away and it's usually nothing to worry about.

[@danginther2795]

Excellent video and audio

[@AJ67901]

Thank you!

[@AJ67901]

thank you very much

[@msalz9249]

great vid and good narrative. good work.

[@spacerconrad]

Seems like it'd be worth it to make the screens field-replaceable, and carry a spare on the loco. Sucks to have to think of stuff like that, but there will always be childish jerks with rocks.

[@Gbody-ey8eh]

Normally the crews keep going to their destination unless it is really smashed.

[@bigmoneygreen2037]

Two Trains, One Rock.

[@jodyreeder4820]

Cracked windshield can be extremely bad. Hope they catch the vandal(s).

[@krzysfilip3127]

They canch him look under 4077 after deploy 😱

[@blueticecho5690]

Back in the late 70's just west of Omaha we had a bucket of white paint dump on us from a overpass .. we just traded out with a trail unit... lucky..

[@ThePostal67]

Vandal should be happy I did not see him/her! Tire tracks would be all the found.. Nice video, glad to see someone using a tripod and not freehand.. Very nice..

[@HankJr.]

You gotta love it when Dwayne Johnson gets in the way of your trains.

[@marvinwilliams535]

Fuck you

[@ScottTaipaleRail]

Holy DPU