One Shot with the Dungeon Dudes and Treantmonk (Part 1)

[@TreantmonksTemple]

I want to thank you again Colby for inviting me, it was very appreciated. For the record, I agree regarding Conjure Animals.

[@TheRobversion1]

you were the mvp chris of that 1st fight! great and hilarious work. man those initiative rolls were fire. haha.

[@DnDDeepDive]

I was so glad you were there! And equally glad you brought along all of your Raptors or we would have wiped for sure ;)

[@williamdavis7274]

my two fav optimization channels!

[@4x3gamer65]

Video my fav canadian actually playing dnd posted right when I get out of work. Can't think of anything better to listen too on the walk home!

[@tango7974]

Watched this in the Dudes' channel and moved around again here and my favorite part is still dropping conjure animals to cast more conjure animals.

[@kbeazy_3050]

Colby: Optimizes Offense Kelly: Optimizes Defense Chris: How can I optimize the house rulings?

[@DnDDeepDive]

lol

[@scientificostrich]

When Monty loses it every time Chris uses Conjure Animals is such a delight XD this whole session is HILARIOUS I can’t wait for part 2!!!

[@veryconfused5243]

"I come to realize I did not do a good enough job protecting my friends, so I'm going to do a better job protecting my friends. So I drop concentration on conjure animals, and cast a 5th level spell. Which is conjure animals." -Dennis Hopper

[@jagoob]

I honestly have never really gotten into any live campaigns like critical role or the ones Colby or the DDs do. But I will say if you 4 wanna do a campaign or maybe a monthly one shot I will watch every episode without fail. Very entertaining.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Thanks!

[@SpiderWaffle]

1:14:05 The death save is when you start your turn. You can continue your turn after being stabilized at 1HP.

[@BLynn]

I came here to say this. Thank you @SpiderWaffle.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Indeed! One of several mistakes we made :).

[@SpiderWaffle]

@@DnDDeepDive Ya doesn't come up much, gives you an entire extra turn, one of the best times to roll a nat 20 :D

[@Hyde_Hill]

@@DnDDeepDive As I love rules, I think missed a concentration save on your cloud of daggers as well. After you used your cloud rune in the first fight. Cabe also forgot his Haste concentration when you where unconscious. Concentration check missing I have seen is super common among all tables. Also think you forgot your adamantine plate when taking a critical hit.

[@anonymouszebra1239]

Even after watching all of drakkenheim, I expected these optimised characters to easily sweep the enemies...i forgot that you can always trust Monty to perfectly *almost* kill the players in every encounter, regardless of build 😆. He really gave them hell, Awesome stuff

[@OliverK1]

Just goes to show, the DM is the only truly optimized person at the table :)

[@cfalkner1012]

The biggest takeaway from this session is that even some of the most lauded optimizers in the field are capable of making tactical mistakes. I really appreciated your self critique. Always good to be reminded that no matter how perfect the character is, the player can make or break the build. Amazing session!

[@jeremynowak2800]

Literally my three favorite D&D channels. Thanks for putting this together for all of us to enjoy. I'm a little surprised that we didn't see a twilight cleric though. Anyhow all four of y'all keep putting out the best D&D content even for us old school players, it is appreciated.

[@TheRobversion1]

watched this already when the dungeon dudes released but i just want to say i'm definitely watching it again here! it was a great one-shot and definitely something that should be done again in the future. it was like the avengers coming together. plus, i'm quite happy you took the catch-22. ;) definitely my fave build you have along with the needler. the voices were entertaining colby and lots of hilarious 1-liners. congrats again for 30k! oh and my fave scene was you feeling bad about rolling a 20. lol. oh and yeah always smite on crits even if it's a level 1 slot. :D those were tough challenges that were meant for more party members. i think you need a post-it for giant's might. hehe. indeed those 16 velociraptors wouldn't fly with my DMs at the different tables i play in. i would've gotten 8-16 sea horses and cats. the spell is just OP if the players can choose.

[@thomazeblen]

I love to see the face of the treantmonk processing all the rules and possibilits

[@colleptic]

Well done! This was a perfect example of how overdoing AC against a dynamic encounter does not mean invincibility. I had so many debates with people on this, and every bladesinger I have ever created encounters for with 30+ ac just gets dropped, due to overconfidence at close range...and not factoring anything else other than melee attacks. This was fun to watch...the raptor packs were great! I still think summoning needs to be changed moving forward with future editions, but the macro really helped not slowing down the game play.

[@chrisvossler8795]

I remember Monty calling that out during one of their videos: if you're a dungeon master and can't figure out how to get a hit on the party tank, just take a look at his saving throws. And sure enough, Kelly was making saving throws practically every turn!

[@texteel]

bladesingers are an extreme example because they are ... brittle? might be a good way to describe them? I mean, mage armor +5dex+5int+2bracers, 25 standing AC, but if ANYTHING gets through that, it will pretty much 1shot you

[@beckettgrabner5437]

Awesome video!! Thoughly enjoyed this little two shot adventure and I'd love to see more collab work in the future! Keep it up mate! And for anyone wondering, btw, "A summoned creature isn't going to be able to pass through the wall of force once it has been summoned, but it could be summoned on the other side of the wall (or inside a dome)," from D&D Beyond.

[@anothercrazyenglishman3494]

Ah, I've been looking forward to this. Seeing the catch-22 in action is going to be a treat. Hopefully going to be able to set up a similar situation in one of my games soon.

[@horbi3683]

Fantastic collaboration! Thanks! Would love to see this becoming a regular thing 😊

[@DnDDeepDive]

Ha ha - me too! :)

[@alanschaub147]

I think the three characters would have done better if Monty had challenged them to optimize with each other for maximum effectiveness, rather than individually. Now that would be a Marvel Team-Up with these players! ❤️

[@Johnny0Masters]

Character Arc goals 😁

[@kawawangkowboy9566]

A group of powerful heroes who haven't figured out how to work together yet? That sounds *exactly* like a Marvel Team-Up

[@alanschaub147]

@@kawawangkowboy9566 Good point!

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

Me sorprende lo bien que hablas español, Colby! Can't wait for the second part :)

[@DnDDeepDive]

Gracias! Aunque parezca Gringo, la verdad es que soy Chapín :P

[@MaldraediorG]

loving all yall together. not sure it would have helped this time but dont forget that adamantine armor makes you immune to crit damage

[@DnDDeepDive]

Yeah I thought about that right before I went down, but knowing that Monty was doing average damage, and that even shield wouldn't have kept me from taking at least one of the hits, I knew it wasn't going to matter :). Storm giants are ouchie.

[@paulsavas2394]

Colby! Thanks for throwing this together. Love the Dudes (I’m a Kickstarter supporter) and I look forward to checking out Treant! I’m halfway through this episode and I’m loving it!

[@DnDDeepDive]

Awesome! Glad you're enjoying :)

[@dienezdarcprowlyr9406]

I love how Monty just looses it laughing when 16 raptors appear, rather than groaning how horrible the spell is. Much better response, dms should love it when characters do something cool.

[@ClintonJohnson1]

This reminds me why I've been eyeing the shield master feat on my tank builds. Even though they were reducing the lightning bolt damage to half or a quarter with resistance, it still was whittling them down quite a lot. Evasion is of course better, but not really as easy to get. It's like a partial mix of the monk/rogue tank builds into the more standard ones. The campaign I am currently in has been one where I never get hit by attacks (swords bard 3/hex 1), but get blasted by 2 lightning bolts in between a single turn going from full health to nothing even with successful saves. Warcaster can wait, I'm gonna have to pick up the shield master feat to survive (especially since there is a dragon fight in our not to distant future).

[@kristiandahl1310]

That gives me an idea to fight hags once I'm out of spell slots reserved for absorb elements. My sword board is only a fraction less dmg than long bow and I'd keep my higher AC as well as give me that bonus evasion.

[@thatguymatt5816]

Something my first DM did and what I continue to do in all my games is ask how someone lands the killing blow. If you kill someone the DM asks “how do you do it?” And it SO satisfying. Awesome game guys!

[@chrisjacobs4716]

This session was a lot of fun to watch! I've watched twice so far (once on twitch replay, and once on dungeon dudes channel). I appreciate your extended commentary here in this one!

[@aqueousconch1103]

I ended up watching this on Twitch a few days after it came out unfortunately, but I really enjoyed the first session of the one-shot! On one hand things were a little dire the first combat but when you consider the combined CR being way above the adventurers pay grade it is a pretty impressive feat to win.

[@ridiculousedtollett6120]

I want to thank all three of these channels for being so wonderful. I just got back into tabletop D&D for the first time in about 10-15 years and all three of these channels have been such great resources on 5e. All the information I've gotten from all of you has made the transition so easy. Thanks y'all.

[@ryanthomasjones]

How fun to watch some of my favorite KZbinrs in a single game. Please make a kobold character so we can do this next time with Kobold from Pack Tactics. 🙂

[@AngelCanseco1]

Dude imagine a battle smith kobold that uses his steel defender as a mount and slings shit at the enemies. Thinking of combining that with swarmkeeper ranger and second level spell that makes didficylt terrain that hurts enemies per 5 ft of movement

[@davidhamer7820]

My 3 favourite channels all together in one game. Bliss.😊

[@Harakiri404]

1:14:08 the roll is at the start of the turn so Lin would have been able to take her turn after the death saving throw "Whenever you start your turn with 0 hit points, you must make a special saving throw, ..."

[@Trial88]

I’ve already watched twice, but I’m digesting the info from it more. Watching a third time now and man what a session!! Lots of funny moments and you guys did such an awesome job of keeping the combat fun when a lot of tables would’ve gone into number crunching seriousness to figure out the best way to survive. Absolute joy to watch. I must also say that I love the concept of the catch-22 build, but with cloud of daggers not doing as much damage as the lower level slot and them being immune to thunder it makes it prevalent that the catch-22 needs a backup option for sure. I understand why you took the 6 levels in paladin now with your guys’ conversations on team dynamic, but I think that you almost have to fight with cabe next to you to make it worth it now. I’m still very excited to see you guys play in the next session and see how you do. If you get to level before the dragon thy could be a game changer simply due to the better concentration options for yourself. Especially if Kelly hastes you again.

[@ianbremner3518]

Been waiting to see the "Catch 22" build in action. Remember with the crusher feat, if you crit all attacks against that enemy have advantage until the start of your next turn. Noticed it in the first combat against the giants. Great work tho! Looking forward to more collabs with the Dudes and Treantmonk!

[@DnDDeepDive]

Good reminder! So many things we forgot :)

[@risperdude]

Was fun watching yesterday on the Dude's channel. Maybe I missed it, but seemed that you guys missed missed the advantage granted from Silvery Barbs. Or maybe it was an adjustment to nerf the spell a little. In any case, WOW. What a show!

[@DnDDeepDive]

Yeah we just forgot. New spell and so much to remember on brand new, level 13 characters :)

[@risperdude]

@@DnDDeepDive And doing it for everyone to judge, you're braver than I! Was fun to watch.

[@Aikolon]

This was really fun 🙂 Can't wait for the 2nd half.

[@DanAlecu]

I'm a fan of all three of your channels so it was such a joy to see this collaboration! Well done! Great idea, great execution! Keep it up! I hope you had at least half as much fun doing this as I did watching it.

[@zomarleyonwriting8322]

Absolutely so fun to watch! I like the 4 people on the side with the map large in the middle, would be cool to add a few more people (I volunteer as tribute 🤣). It was my first time seeing Chris! Definitely checking his channel out.

[@rcschmidt668]

So glad you guys could get together (online) and run this mini session. Congrats for breaking the 30k mark! Looking forward to part 2 to see how it ends.

[@mattconw]

Not nitpicking a live play, but for all the Paladins out there, remind your allies that Aura of Protection works on Death Saves 1:34:00

[@mattconw]

Also, Booming Blade only triggers if the creature willingly moves (irrelevant since Storm Giants are immune to Thunder).

[@RichardDurham]

I’m really glad you guys did this! Great to see what some powerful characters can do, and to see what Monty throws at you. Looking forward to the finale!

[@jonnymazzola7124]

You don't have to regret for anything, you did it very well and mistakes are part of the fun and the process of creation. I watched this twice and is amazing! I follow the three channels and love the three of them, can't wait for the 2nd part!

[@matthewfarmer4364]

All my favorite D&D content creators. Please do more collabs!

[@mitchc6059]

What a treat to watch you four together.

[@TabletopTussle]

This was really great to watch, thanks for pulling this together Colby!

[@joshanderson8059]

Really enjoyed watching this! Thank you so much for uploading it

[@midnightsurvival]

This was amazing! I am so happy to see this. I've been subbed to all 3 of these channels for a long time.

[@reaverbotv9527]

Thanks for putting together a one-shot featuring my 3 favorite D&D channels.

[@PedroHISilva]

This one-shot already proved something important. Absorb elements and shield are the most important defensive reaction options of DnD 5e and silvery barbs doesn't get close to them. Barbs power is its offensive use though. I also played a battle Smith artificer with the sentinel feat and it was quite tricky to know when to use the feat instead of holding my reaction for the potential use of shield and absorb elements.

[@flyingcrocodile422]

This is really exciting!!! Got to watch it live for a bit and it was great! Thank you for sharing this on your channel!

[@ShyBurgos]

Had to watch this TWICE!!! The WALL of Force coming down and a SMITED MAGE!!!! After 2 attacks a VERY DEAD MAGE!!!! That was awesome! I had to play Godsmack EYE of the Storm during that smite!!! looking forward to part 2!

[@Terker2]

Awesome stuff. I love experienced players like Chris outside of whiteroom theorizing. This is were actual optimisation shines.

[@sesimie]

I'm playing the Catch 22 build right now and well Treantmonk has been a guide for me for most of my D&D5e builds. So this was a must see for me!

[@beowulf.reborn]

That was so much fun! I stayed up all night watching it, and well ... might as watch Part 2 now, too!! 😅 😂 🤣

[@DrAndrewJBlack]

I love the Conjure Animals spell … our DM ALWAYS will punish this with Counterspell if you don’t play wisely (defensively & with awareness) The Silvery Barbs spell is NOT overpowered as clearly evidenced by the cost of using one’s reaction

[@TheRobversion1]

On my 3rd rewatch this weekend as i'm doing chores and i realized that you should've definitely pulled out your find steed for the fight and treated like a steel defender for majority of the fight. you could've rode on it to get close (kelly doesn't need to use vortex warp) and then dismount then let it make its own attacks/take a couple of hits (especially since it could've been buffed pre-combat with heroes feast, aid, etc). mounts imo are always a good idea, especially if you can make disposable ones. i think you guys also could've used alot of forgotten abilities like action surge, the advantage granted by silvery barbs, guided strike from conquest pal, the other non-cloud rune, etc. and just a compliment again, this might be the best dnd live play i've ever seen in terms of just enjoying the whole thing compared to critical role or even the stuff deborah ann woll comes up . those may have a better story and production value but this was generally more fun, relatable (as you guys are playing characters i would build) and the way monty structured encounters is the way my DM generally does as well. plus the humor was chef's kiss! good work everyone.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Thanks! Yeah, I had Monty make a token for it and everything but then I was just like... Meh. Mounted Combat in 5e is just... yucky :). And every DM does it different, ya know? Controlled Mount? Independent? Do I get to direct it if I'm not mounted? etc etc. Plus I knew Chris was going to be summoning and Kelly had robodog... just didn't want to clog things up any more :).

[@TheRobversion1]

@@DnDDeepDive yeah personally i also don't do "mounted combat" in 5e. on my own conquest paladin i just use find steed typically on the 1st round as not being able to close the distance on round 1 makes you end up doing something ineffective like the toll of the dead. once i get to my target, i dismount and fight with my steed at my side as a "summon". this way, once you're unmounted the rules are clear. So yes JC has already clarified it works like any allied creature as soon as you're dismounted. so it's another "summon." things just go into confusing category if you are mounted. by just moving in and spending some of the mount's move and your move (dismounting will cost you half your move) it will keep the rules simple. it's just another summon who has it's own initiative and the way monty ruled it is that your steed would just take their turn after your turn just like chris' velociraptors. you don't have to worry about controlled/independent. I do the same with my beastmaster and battlesmith builds that need to get into melee (playing custom lineage: small for both builds). understandable though that you didn't want to clog up the field more. i think this is just retrospect because you didn't know before hand monty would come in with heavy aoe. anyway, part 2 cant get here soon enough! looking forward to it.

[@darrenromanko2414]

I hope you do more games with the Dungeon Dudes. This was very entertaining.

[@Tanthalasa83]

ohhh my interesting first half of a one-shot... looking forward to see the dndbeyond sheets of the builds after the 2nd half, hopefully....

[@DnDDeepDive]

Just linked them in the vid description :)

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

3 hours? Part 1? You have my like, good sir. Now let's watch the vid :)

[@salamaneinglorion5956]

I really enjoy the Catch-22 build, so seeing it in action even under less-than-ideal circumstances was great. Really cool to see 3 of the 4 channels I bother to watch (get Pack Tactics in here, and that'll be all 4!) get together for a collaboration. 👍🏻

[@gavitonemaps]

Already watched this live on twitch (as I said before, 'twas epic) but it was really interesting to see your post-mortem here... Looking forward to next week!

[@itspabbs]

Going around and up outing and commenting on every channel. Great session all of you! Cheers!

[@EpicParsnips]

All my favourite d&d youtubers together! What a dream.

[@Caskron1]

Very entertaining, I am just laughing my way through the video ^^ Keep it up!

[@eleishar18]

That poor little velo stomped by Lyn :P I don't have a lot of experience with 5E, I would probably play Commando here, as it's simple and effective ;)

[@constablebrew]

Octarine colored magic ✨✨, nice tip of the hat toward Terry Pratchett

[@davidrose7938]

This was a lit of fun to watch. Gratz on 30k! 😊

[@Krufyre]

Omg my favorite D&D youtubers are playing together 🤩🤩🤩

[@ManualdeSobrevivencia]

According to RAW, the wall of force on this episode wouldn't block misty step, as it didn't, since it doesn't use ethereal plane movement as it shouldn't have blocked conjure animals, for it targets unoccupied spaces that you can see within range. You don't throw a physical thing in that space to summon the creatures, as you do with, say, a fireball, nor the creatures go through the wall using the ethereal plane.

[@ManualdeSobrevivencia]

Ps.: Wrote this comment as I was watching. I haven't seen the final thoughts as of writing this.

[@YotamGalli]

I really like it that you bring us into your considerations regarding the builds and party composition. I also think deciding that a Paladin is a nessecity is on spot. IMHO a more powerfull version of Paladin would be Watchers7/Warlock2/Sorcerer4. That would have provided a huge Initiative boost all around and give you a solid ranged option. Together with Find Steed, you could have had 120 ft movement per round to completely avoid melee and pepper the giants with Eldritch Blasts. The Sorcerer's Darkness spell would also shut down the giants' lightning attacks (and if you took Shadow Sorcerer, would also grant you advantage on your attacks and disadvantage on attacks made against you).

[@Wurgy42]

Awesome game! Like I said on DD my 3 favorite groups creating the SUPER GROUP! The SuperBowl of gaming just happened and it was glorious!

[@DrAndrewJBlack]

Wow, great stuff

[@Maximum7077]

This is Awesome, I love it.

[@rothgartheviking858]

I very much enjoyed this collaboration.

[@ryancparker]

ALWAYS smite on a CRIT, Big Linda! Don't let the DM fool you.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Ha ha - I think I misinterpreted what "Bloodied" meant at Monty's table :).

[@MikeydactylGaming]

Really fun session, but if yall are gonna do silvery barbs you gotta give out those advantage rolls! That moment that reaction "only did 9 hitpoints" should've also given Colby a high roll the following round!

[@dungeondiceart6701]

Was super stoked for this since I watch all religiously.

[@jomohunter4649]

do it all mage!?!?! i would love to see chris play it! its my favourite build in all of dnd so far :D im excited what builds they play :)

[@captboreas258]

@1:52:05 - I hope Monty got paid for the Pepsi advertisement

[@yesanderson]

That was a blast to watch! I'd love to see something similar with a concept team like forced movement or a sleet stormer with other characters designed to fight inside of it. Anyway, the way you guys ended up shedding some light on silvery barbs was super cool. Next week we'll anyone use the second half of the spell? Let's find out

[@DnDDeepDive]

Assuming we have any spell slots left!

[@johnberg9497]

Just for future reference, Wand of Fireballs in 5e has a DC 15

[@PedroHISilva]

First time ever that I watched a DnD session on KZbin. I've never had patience for critical role or any other famous streamers. It was hilarious. Congrats for the 30k and all participants for the nice show.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Thanks!

[@jeffreyblackwell1444]

My favorite 2 channels together ❤

[@chrism6315]

Great game and very funny, I'd love to see a monthly (or however frequently you can do it) one shot where high level PC's get thrown to the wolves to see what your builds (and others) can really do when they are 'online'. Regardless, Great video, keep up the work good sir(s).

[@chiekohoki]

Just starting this, so excited! Also I'm so sad Chris didn't wear bunny ears :P

[@YelloDuzzit]

The rabbit is so far away hiding in a bush sending tinier dinosaurs after these giants! HAHLARIOUS!

[@jonathanhaynes9914]

I already watched on Dungeon Dudes but catching your thoughts was nice.

[@HowtoRPG]

A group of three can be difficult as you know. Next week will be interesting.

[@cmccbuilds8229]

I’m very excited for this!

[@trekloveridge1375]

Good work Colby! My wife met you the other day and pointed me your way😂 You should try a home brew rules video. If you want I can give you mine😉

[@DnDDeepDive]

Ha ha, in the Apple Store!? /wave

[@chopcooey]

that was awesome, i had a good time watching

[@koz5695]

Gotta love Kelly's reference to benders (futurama) nightmare 🤣

[@omega311888]

looking forward to part 2

[@AngelCanseco1]

From the first attack monty was not fucking around lol

[@razorice0007]

Spoiler for the final round: A bit late to the party, but since Colby cast Hold Person as a bonus action, wasn't he not allowed to cast Silvery Barbs since it's neither a cantrip nor a spell with a speed of one action?

[@zomarleyonwriting8322]

Nooooo not a Bladesinger 😭

[@TheSeventhChild]

I really wanted to see that Elf get crusher Maul'd into the gate. It died anyway and it would have spent some of your movement repositioning, but surely that'd be worth it to power slam an enemy into the Far Realm.

[@gadgetlam86]

I already watched it on dungeon dudes but I will for sure watch it again so you get those viewing minutes.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Cheers!

[@MachineWraith]

I have literally never been a part of a one shot that didn't end up taking at least two sessions, haha

[@DnDDeepDive]

😂

[@RhuneDagron]

I would definitely say you can conjure animals on the opposite side of a wall of force, as there is nothing actually passing through the wall. While paralyze and similar effects are good at dealing with players, I won't use them anymore as a GM because it purely detracts from a players fun (fail save/do nothing your next turn).

[@indigoblacksteel1176]

Question for you. Do you regret choosing your Catch-22 over some of your other builds for this one-shot? In theory, it can do a lot of damage, but in practice, there are so many things that can nullify the potential damage, especially when you start getting into higher level monsters. It starts feeling gimmicky, just a one-trick pony. Immunity to thunder damage. Reach allowing it to attack you without moving. Ranged attacks that do a lot of damage. Cloud of Daggers is cool, but its 5 feet cube makes its usefulness pretty niche.

[@christianbyrnes5991]

Fun video, good work to you all. Looking forward to 2nd session. Raptors=mvp. Storm giants can levitate above the raptors..i wonder how that would have changed the fight?

[@googleaccount-lm9uz]

Levitate probably wouldn’t have been that advantageous. After the first giant levitated Dennis could have just switched to summoning flying creatures like giant owls. Those don’t have pack tactics so they would have hit less, but the giants only had 16 ac so they weren’t that hard to hit. Also, casting levitate replaces highly damaging actions for the giants so perhaps it would have been disadvantageous overall.

[@NomNom1970]

I don't know why, but when that gate opened, I thought about using that vortex spell to fling her into the prismatic wall... LOL.

[@DnDDeepDive]

Would be awesome! Unfortunately you're not exactly moving her *through* it but teleporting "to an unoccupied space you can see" - not sure if monty would allow you to TP her *into* the middle of the space or not or if he'd rule that you can/can't se the space, or if it's unoccupied...

[@aqueousconch1103]

2:53:15 Not only that, but even if you do survive your resources specifically might be gone before the dragon encounter lol. The nova on the first spellcaster was great, but burnt through three slots in one go.

[@DnDDeepDive]

yeah - sorc points, hold person, smite, smite, *and Silvery Barbs* (that didn't take) *and* Kelly's Silvery Barbs. 5! Might have been worth, but definitely expensive.

[@beowulf.reborn]

Does a Paladin's Aura add CHA to Death Saving Throws? If so the Robotificer wouldn't have died (not that it made much difference since he was immediately Revivified), also, are Death Saving Throws made at the Start of your turn? Meaning on that Nat 20, Lin could have gotten up and had her full round of attacks?