One Way Spindle Bearing Replacement

[@johnfurr8779]

well, when I find 6K bucks I can rest assured that I shall know how to replace the bearings on the oneway lathe I'll buy. I've watched a couple of your videos, but this is the one that got me to subscribe.

[@k1mgy]

I notice, and I think your customers must certainly appreciate, the extra level of care you apply to the job. Cleaning out those holes. Using the Never-Seize. Carefully and methodically working the pieces. These are the touches of a true craftsman.

[@rogerkirby6586]

Hi Keith Just stubbled across your video, nice to see someone take care for future maintenance. In a lathe you do not want any runout so the pair of bearings with the shim in-between are opposing angular contact bearings the same as you have in a live centre. These require a pre load, the way that is achieved on your spindle is after finally fitting the ring with the three grub screws you squish the two bearings back together with the locked nut in the reverse direction then hit the tab to hold . The two inners go together and the two outers are separated by the shim giving you the preload. Check with the guy who owns the lathe, is he or she getting excessive runout. Cheers roger

[@tobyw9573]

Even if the bearing sounds OK the grease is getting old and the aging likely accelerates at an ever increasing rate. There is also a fatigue factor in the rolling elements and the inner race, inner races have less area and fatigue faster than outer. Glad to see you treat bearings with such respect Keith, Good work!

[@christoph72761]

Thank you for sharing. Always a joy to watch a professional work. .....Customer asks for bearing replacement. Keith does what many would call rebuilding the part. Why? Because it is the right thing to do. Old school at its finest.

[@pyromedichd1]

It sure is nice to see someone that cares about how well a job is done. Real craftsmen that take pride in workmanship is hard to find these days.

[@PatrickPoet]

After watching you and other KZbin machinists for a long time, this semester at my local community college I'm taking a machine shop class (at 62 years young;). Today I turned my first four pieces, flywheel weights for a little steam engine, on a standard 15" LeBlond Regal lathe. I only needed three, but on the third one I turned a section undersized. Thanks for the inspiration:)

[@jimpritz4169]

Another great video. Your attention to detail is fantastic. You could have been a heart surgeon.

[@patricksullivan9951]

Hi Keith, it's not just take it apart, put it back together, it's putting it back together so it's in so much better shape than before it was taken apart the first time! You do that so well, craftsmanship! Never seize is always a nice touch! No matter who the next fixer will be!!

[@richardcox3485]

Even in the hectic process of moving I still make time for Keith, is this devotion or addiction, who cares! Great as always Keith and great job of narrating that has to be a job within its self.

[@ldm9572]

I have that same Oneway lathe 24" swing and was very impressed with it construction and quality. Nice job on the rebuild of the spindle, I will keep your video for my future rebuild if ever necessary, thank again for your great videos.

[@Pete4875]

Thanks Keith, You give a opportunity for everyday people to experience the world of machines.

[@roverinosnarkman7240]

One way lathes are of outstanding quality, one of the best quality wood lathes in the world. They are made in Canada in a small town. I’ve visited their manufacturing facility and it’s very good (but I’m not affiliated in any way). Top quality materials and top quality people. Their product costs a little more than the imports, but it’s the last lathe you will ever need to purchase. They make specially equipped versions for disabled vets.

[@aserta]

Not just quality, but apparently also nice with future owners. The two rear bearings could've been a single double race one, expensive, and also hard to replace. BUT, the quality and long term use, much, much longer in length. So that's pretty neat to do, i have a Russian wood lathe of no renown, that is equipped with needle roller bearings that are 8 cm wide, and let me tell you, it's a bi*ch and a half to extract one of those off the shaft.

[@fredanderson1753]

I've been enjoying your videos for a while now and have to tell you, I thoroughly enjoy your work, video quality and editing skills. I always learn something watching your work. The education you give us on technique, set up, execution and explanation is most appreciated. Thanks Mr. Fenner.

[@bruceconnor7597]

Hi Keith You are the first machinist videos that that I watched and you are still the best at providing the best detail of why you do what you do. Lots of u tubers have learned from your expertise that has developed over time. regards bruce

[@aplavins]

That's a really interesting sprocket chain on your table. Thanks for showing it! 1 to 1 in opposite directions!

[@bobshepherd9353]

always interesting to see how parts come apart and how you go about it. Keep 'em coming.

[@georgeswindolljr.4618]

Love your meticulous attention to detail, a little never sieze can save a lot of trouble, you may be the next person to work on it again!!!!!

[@NebukedNezzer]

Another great video on how to rebuild to perfection. I have noticed something. As a long time viewer. Keith, you are really becoming quite a good orator. As a working person who was not used to describing things, you used to have a bit of difficulty choosing words. Not anymore.

[@randallparker8477]

Perfect execution of PROPER mechanical principles. Drawing/Manual, Work area organization for the task at hand (on the press), attention to details and cleanliness in disassembly and reassembly, neverseize for the next guy (my dad always said the next guy may be you) and last but not least voice over when there is a crisis. You got it all going on brother, thanks for sharing!

[@randallparker8477]

When are you going to post your video showing what you say is improper, or how to do it properly?

[@cjdixon7132]

What impresses me the most is the care that you use to ensure the parts are clean and the surfaces are properly prepared for re installation. This could have been a half hour quick buck project. But, like everything in life a half assed job costs a lot more in the long run.

[@zephyrold2478]

Hi Keith, nice job on that spindle, a good old handmade thumbs up for that, All the best.

[@peterwill3699]

Hi Keith,I've rebuilt many different spindles without the luxury of prints.You did a super job,but risky pressing bearings on I always heated them 700$ bearings to slip them on even using spot or a flood light if a bearing heater was not handy..And I had my share of bearings poping the outer races off and had balls all over the place.It was on removal that it would usally happen.And I still have a good supply of sling shot ammo.

[@TechGorilla1987]

I happen to really enjoy when you narrate your videos. It seems easier on you to narrate than to try and formulate dialog on the fly. Either way, great video as usual!

[@tutekohe1361]

Another masterclass in how to DO THINGS RIGHT! I also appreciate the extra effort you went to to narrate the section with the missing audio. Thank you, from New Zealand.

[@Lawnmowerman02346]

Thought you might appreciate this one . Used anti seize all the time until one day when my 2 - 3 year old son was in the shop , He found it when I wasn't looking . He was covered from head to toe in the stuff . For a month or more I was finding things he touched , or played with all over the shop . A little goes a LONG way .

[@TheTacktishion]

Its like Dog Shit.... before you know it, it's everywhere.... lol

[@stevenclaeys6252]

Hey Keith, Thank you for another great video. I can't wait for the next one. Have fun, stay safe, be kind.

[@TomokosEnterprize]

Love these one off jobs my friend. It keeps the noggin working eh. Well done sir. Nice straight forward job.

[@BiddieTube]

Clicked because wanted to find out what a "One Way Spindle" was. Done clicked for quite a while, well 25 minutes. For all of you on the same quest,.. It turns out there is a brand of wood lathe called "Oneway". Search "Oneway Lathes" to find. I seen you work on prop shafts, quite amazing. Based on this video, you do top quality work on little shafts too.

[@ponkkaa]

BiddieTube one way make some really high quality wood lathes. Unfortunately they're out of my price range

[@TheTacktishion]

I think Tim Clay at Oneway Lathes would approve of your bearing replacement process.... Good Job...!

[@denniswilliams8747]

I love my little impact driver. It works far beyond what might be expected of a 1/4" impact driver. Thanks

[@lloydk5514]

You mentioned that a little never seize goes a long way. It sure does! I put a tiny dab on the threads of a bolt, it gets on my fingers, ends up all over the piece I am working on, my tools, the front of my coveralls, and eventually on one or both of my ears. I’ll bet if a can of it got spilled, the whole city would be covered by the end of the week.

[@suzylarry1]

You can ad-lib pretty good. I have seen this happen to you before with no panic. So folks would have a fit, but you got all under control/ Keep videos coming !

[@Drmcunningham]

Expert hand job with the Scotch Brite! You said it - not me! 🤓 I did enjoy this video!

[@garyc5483]

Nice video and good job Keith. You saved the day with the audio voiceover. Looks like you are trying to outdo mrpete by seeing how many of your wife's towels you can steal(borrow) :-) regards from the UK

[@deconteesawyer5758]

No problem for Kieth. They were just her dish towels, not her tea towels.

[@cutcowboy3696]

4 years late but the video is great. Scared the soul outta me when you blew the part off with the compressed air👾.

[@michaelhale4041]

That is what I did for 8 years here in NC. Both belt drive and electric. I had a great time rebuilding a 190,000 rpm spindle. With split barrings

[@tcseacliff]

love to watch you work ! it is always correct an comfortable that it is done right!

[@captainlee1]

Keith, thanks for your detailed bearing removal and replacement video I really enjoyed it.... :O)

[@robertkutz]

Keith thank you for helping out us wood machinist COOL.

[@deathvalleyalex9485]

Dude poetry in motion , well met sir .

[@jmhannnon]

That was timely. I am in the middle of replacing the spindle bearings on my metal lathe. Tapered roller bearings in an oil bath.

[@stephenwagar2663]

You Make It So Damm Easy . I Watch The Things You Do And Say To Myself " AMAZING " . Best Regards From A Long Time "watcher "

[@paulcopeland9035]

Yep, he makes it look damn easy. It is amazing how "easy" things are when you have the experience and the correct tools for the job. That press he built is first rate!

[@stephenwagar2663]

And Still Waiting To See The New Bridgeport...

[@KeithFenner]

It will be coming soon! LOL ;{)-------

[@stephenwagar2663]

Thanks Keith

[@unchained_0177]

Hand jobs By Keith !! Love the content !!! Getter done Between you Adam and Tipton your always informative and enjoyable !!

[@paulmace7910]

The voice over is actually better than the first portion where the video and audio are out of sync. Thanks for salvaging the video. Nice work.

[@mikenixon9164]

Nice clean job. Good voice over .

[@Changtent]

Nice video thx. We have some different terminology up north in Canada. Your "clam shell" is what we call a "bearing splitter". And your "parallel" is what we would call a "strong back puller". So I would be using a "bearing splitter with a strong back puller" to do the same job. Just thought you might be interested.

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

He used the "strong back" term at least once for y'all ...

[@kennylakits4093]

Great video, Buddy has a One Way and I'm sure I'll be doing this soon as he is extremely rough on equipment. Cheers

[@johnrenk2198]

Watching enough videos I have acquired a saying, "I like that" great videos.

[@billellis7397]

Thanks Keith. Always a fun time.

[@user990077]

Always learn something, every video... thanks.

[@johnsavoy4784]

I am another big fan of the nickel anti seize, believe it to be superior to the others.As always great video

[@aikovanhulsen4798]

I love your videos. very relaxed and no rush or yelling. Although the calmness of your voice makes me a bit sleepy. ha! In your latest series you're boring out all that bronze, do you or can you re-cycle that waste?

[@blancacastaneda632]

watching this video for the first time. Note; never use never seize on the taper, and always try use a manufacturer torque on taper locks. I see people over torquing these all the time. that galls the taper or can actually crack the taper housing .I have found many come apart in two pieces, broken by over torque.

[@ermennda]

"I've got one batery life down here..." I never suspected you to be a gamer!

[@johnstrange6799]

An enjoyable hour of enlightening entertainment. Thank you, Keith.

[@karengaucher135]

John Strange I

[@TyphoonVstrom]

Some larger wood lathes have the ability to put a face plate on the other end and run as a disc sander. One we had at high school was set up like that.

[@johnshoureas1629]

It's mainly for turning large bowls or wood discs.

[@randomdude1786]

real good work, glad to see you again. some meat and potato's mechanical. that's nice with that taper lock pulley looks like they 'll really be able to hog some chips with it. love the machine repair stuff you do. keep it up

[@wb8ujb]

I have to admit, it was kinda creepy Keith. I was working on something on the table. When I looked up at you on the screen, we had what appeared to be ghosts in the background. I had to back the video to figure out what was going on. :D just thought it was funny. Very nice job on that spindle. I have the very same lathe in my woodshop. Now, I know if my bearings go bad, how to replace them. Good Day Keith, Getter Done

[@deconteesawyer5758]

Might want to replace the end seal while you are at it if the bearings are bad.

[@ScottandTera]

Looks like a decent lathe just from how the spindle is built

[@BedsitBob]

Excellent choice, using SFK bearings. I always use them, when replacing motorcycle wheel bearings.

[@GadgetBiker]

Good save on the voice over Keith!

[@josephleister9198]

Good quality work as usual.....thanks..

[@carltona6429]

Another great video Keith. Awesome knowledge shared with the masses.

[@daveknowshow]

enjoyed the video, sucks when your audio or video footage gets screwed up. you did a nice job on the Voice over.

[@johnleake708]

Thanks for the informative video, I use and own an old 12" rockwell on a mammoth glue lam beam base.

[@rmagraphicslife8553]

I like your doing and very informative video and i want to learn more idea of reassembly the spindle of cnc router machine.

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

Good one, only one query on undoing or tightening machined surfaces and assemblies. The fasteners are done opposites at a time.

[@jonka1]

@58:30 because of the shim there is now an axial pre-load between the bearings. Do you think this is correct or was the shim there to space the two inner races apart?

[@jamesstanlake4064]

The staining on the paint and rust on the surfaces is more than likely from turning green wood. The moisture in the wood is the culprit. People like turning green wood because it turns easier and makes long curly shavings from the wood. I know some who love turning green wood and are not fond of turning dry wood, myself I prefer to turn dry wood that generates finer shavings and dust. To each their own. The One-Way wood lathe is a top quality wood lathe manufactured in Canada.

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

Thanks for mentioning 'The One-Way wood lathe' , I was having difficulty figuring out where a lathe needed one way bearings ... Greetings from Columbia ,MO.

[@lloydk5514]

You mentioned that never-seize goes quite a long ways. You’re not kidding! A little dab on your finger ends up all over your tools, smeared on the front of your coveralls, and usually on your ear lobe and the tip of your nose.

[@shawnmrfixitlee6478]

nice clean job , ENJOYED Keith !

[@yanwo2359]

Weird that the taper lock didn't use the same bolts for jack screws. Is that normal?

[@KeithFenner]

Normally all the SAE. taper locks use the same bolts, but you know them metric engineers! LOL ;{)------

[@acad7830]

@@KeithFenner in England we use different sizes because it stops you using the bolt screws and damaging them if you use them as the jack screws. Plus the bolt screws are generally a finer pitch and you need course pitch for the jack screws.

[@63256325N]

Great video Keith, thanks.

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

Very good Mr. Fenner

[@petefletcher]

Just got a little impact tool myself - it does save your hands!

[@steve6139]

Very informative video and well done! Admirable the care taken in doing the work. Woodturners often times turn wet or green wood. I don't know if this is the case with this lathe owner but do you think the bearing failure had something to do with it? Are there bearings better suited when working with this type of wood?

[@KeithFenner]

There are many different rubber sealed spindle style bearings that would hold back moistures. ;{)------

[@denniswilliams8747]

I like never seize in electrical connection especially here in humid Fla. I used it on compressor motor connections. THe Factory connections would be steel against copper. In time the steel would rust resulting in a hot connection.. Good stuff, never seize.

[@matthewpeck4016]

Keith, when pressing the pair of bearings, since the shim is on the outer races, and you're press fitting the inner races to the shaft, don't you end up compressing the inner races of the bearings closer together than the outer races, and thereby introduce axial offset in both bearings? Are the bearings designed to accommodate that?

[@KeithFenner]

That is for a preload, ultra thin, maybe a .0005" my guess, by feal. the shim was not thick enough to hold the inner races apart, any farther than their own flex or lineal thrust travel. ;{)------

[@matthewpeck4016]

Ahh, makes sense. Thanks for the reply!

[@aikovanhulsen4798]

ok. I had the same question. your answer makes complete sense now. It kinda works like a pre-load.

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

@@aikovanhulsen4798 That is exactly what he said, not kind of ...

[@mattyfromlondon]

is that a taper roller bearing main bearing ?

[@brucepeebles4939]

Did you put something underneath the shaft when pressing the 2nd two bearings on? If not, when you were pressing the 2nd two bearings on, the force was going THROUGH the races of the lower bearing.

[@rsmith2786]

Also, by pressing the second two bearings on at the same time the force is going through the top bearing since there is a shim on the outer race. The press is putting force on the inner race while the shim pushes the next bearing on the outer race.

[@KeithFenner]

The amount of force to put the second bearings on was less than the first large bearing, no more than a hand arbor press would have given and it was in straight forward set up. The shim preload, ultra thin, maybe a .0005" my guess, by feal. the shim was not thick enough to hold the inner races apart, any farther than their own flex or lineal thrust travel. LOL, 42 years in my career, 32 years of it loading projects in the lathe and on machinery, I was babying the installation of these bearings compared to was they will see in use. I'm glad that everyone is thinking of all the variables to be concerned with projects like this. ;{)------

[@stuarthardy4626]

Great video Keith ,careful dismantling, and a clean reassemble One point the I am confused about the double rear end race looks like the preload is dependent on the taper lock installation and that collar with the three screws ? Also how is the outer of the pair locked up in the lathe ? One last point if I may be so bold Where is Buffy 🙀 she needs to come in out of the cold

[@eddytaylor3697]

Very informative video, thank's for sharing.

[@matttradie1341]

This video needs an r rating. The whole hand job, with the incredible wrist action I must say, then spreading the legs apart to make room for the rod....excellent. 👍

[@scorpioo7350]

What kind of bearing (27:21) (tapered or spherical) (part number)

[@KeithFenner]

Spherical ;{)-------

[@jessefoulk]

We have an old lathe that we got the spindle bearings rebored. Flat belt lathe from the late 1910's. It would be nice to have a newer lathe.

[@D3faulted1]

I don't think it's possible to have a bearing installation video without a bunch of people complaining about improper installation procedures.

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

Lol. Treat bearings like babies - handle with care.

[@GeekboyNC]

Oneway is a top of the line wood lathe. It is surprising that the bearings would go out. I'm in the market for a good wood lathe and they were on my list. What do you think of the quality? I met the owner and his daughter at the AAW event in Charlotte years ago and was impressed with their lathes. I'm surprised the bearings gave out.

[@xenonram]

Here vee goo! Yay, a 1 hour Fenner banger. I have a question about pressing bearings on/off. When doing so, the inner race is putting forced one way, and the outer race the other way. What stupid it from being damaged. There is only a very small lip/grove on the inner and outer diameters of the outer and inner races, respectively. So that, in addition to the cage, is holding back thousands of pounds of shear load. It just seems that a bearing would get fucked right over if it were being pressed like that. (Especially trying to push a bearing off that had been heated on.)

[@aculasabacca]

When pushing the bearing on you push the inner race while the outer race just floats no problem, the thin washer between the outer races puts a preload on the balls when the inner races are touching each other.

[@ronkincaid9341]

Copper anti-sizee just like the old brill creme ads. Just a little dab will do you. I can walk by a can and have it on my nose,ears and other various body parts.Love your videos.Ron in ohio

[@jnelson4765]

It'd take about a year and a half to go through a can of anti-sieze when I was working on bus suspension and brakes - we used it fleet-wide so you didn't have to take a sledgehammer to the brake drums. Hated seeing buses come in for running repairs from other companies - you knew you were in for a battle to get the brake drum off. More than once, you'd end up damaging them too much to be usable...

[@joandar1]

I have still got brill cream containers in my shed full of screws from my father. He used it during his 36 years in the RAAF where he worked as an Engine Fitter from 1942 to 1978. Yes Ron Kincaid, a little dab will do you, I remember that jingle from my younger days. Copper Coat is a great product like the Ally and Nickel based ones, depending on what you are working on. Jim Nelson, You are correct. I always use the stuff because I may be the next sod to work on whatever it is. Even if I am not, the next bloke will appreciate my efforts as their job is simplified. Cheers from John, Australia.

[@TheTkiller9999]

Hey Keith.. when you press on the two bearings... was it not possible that you pushed the other Bearing out of position a little bit? Since you are pressing against the White cap... I guess not likely, but possible

[@barrygerbracht5077]

The lower thrust bearing is locked to the shaft by the locking collar nut. It can't be moved. The step pulley for the belt drive is held by the taper lock. There was a potential issue with how much force in thrust was applied to the bearing by the press, but I doubt it was enough to cause a problem.

[@KeithFenner]

The amount of force to put the second bearings on was less than the first large bearing, no more than a hand arbor press would have given and it was in straight forward set up. The shim preload, ultra thin, maybe a .0005" my guess, by feal. the shim was not thick enough to hold the inner races apart, any farther than their own flex or lineal thrust travel. LOL, 42 years in my career, 32 years of it loading projects in the lathe and on machinery, I was babying the installation of these bearings compared to was they will see in use. I'm glad that everyone is thinking of all the variables to be concerned with projects like this. ;{)------

[@billv1410]

Excellent as always, You can add Narrator to your shingle! Thanks

[@billellis7397]

The narration was so good. All you would have had to do was make the pssssst sound when blowing off the dust lol

[@jtmeeksjr]

Keith, love your videos! But I have a question about pressing on the last set of bearings... Wasn't the force transmitted through the Housing Flange instead of the end of the Shaft? I thought it looked like the entire Shaft Assembly actually flexed downward during that final press... then sprang back when the pressure was relieved. I would think because of the Housing Flange flexing. Or am I missing something? You're care and expertise when assembling is first rate, I could only hope to be that competent and thorough!

[@KeithFenner]

The design of my hydraulic press and the size of the table, all flex, more than 250" when deadheaded with full pressure limits. Which really shows up in close up camera's set up next to press. All the hype on pressing the two bearing with a .0005" shim for preload and against the much larger main bearing at the other end, that took twice the pressure to install as a backup, are just that, Hype. I'll have to show just what everyone was looking at in flex the next time I have a video at the hydraulic press. Thanks for the comment. cheers, ;{)------

[@charlesangell_bulmtl]

You're correct, he is competent ... and very thorough.

[@horkinyorkin]

I have always admired your press. Did you build it or is it a factory machine?

[@KeithFenner]

I built it myself and have two videos on it, talking and giving all the spec's. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2icgWOoa5uGfZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6vQgGWMfp6fbKc

[@horkinyorkin]

thank you I will view them.

[@krazziee2000]

very nice work,,, thanks for the video, and lessons,,

[@williamf.deweese7977]

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[@GilmerJohn]

I'm surprised you didn't use the ball again when you pressed out the 2nd bearing.

[@georgeswindolljr.4618]

Thanks for another great video!!!!!!

[@rescobar8572]

Keith, is there a flash happening in the background or am I just seeing things? Check it out at 14:58 ......

[@KeithFenner]

The sun reflecting off car windows, driving by on the road in front of our shop, and like a mirror, flashing the light, through the windows in the shop. When your running the machines, it is always in the peripheral vision, when the sun is at the right angle. Guess I'm just use to it now. ;{)------

[@calvinjutila8270]

I think it was Shadow HKW that said something about how far never seize goes: "I can call in an order for never seize and get it on everything".

[@WildIronInc]

Keith, I was having a nice after lunch snooze having been lulled to sleep by your voice and THEN MMMMM and PSST... Do you have compressed air and a hydraulic press in the quiet or nap time variety?