What happens when the Embers meeting goes too well? [Spoilers]

[@ThatUnrealGamer]

Johnny's expression in the background when V bows to Hanako is priceless

[@crimsoncat76]

"Why the fuck am I bounded to this corpo shithead"

[@ichsagnix4127]

yep, you can literally taste the vomit which came to his mouth.

[@silentwitness536]

Some people online say you should start the Liberty DCL at this point. True? If not, which point is it better to depart from the main story?

[@cutwir3317]

A lot of people don’t know this but ....In photo mode if your wearing the Wolf School Jacket at night, on the back the wolf eyes are glowing red. Also being a Nomad with a higher tech skill gives you an added dialogue as you talk to Jackie just before you enter the Maelstrom hideout

[@over9000lord]

The added dialogue actually leads to Jackie's bike looking a bit different in the later parts of the game.

[@ZyroShadowPony]

@@over9000lord how different

[@over9000lord]

@@ZyroShadowPony in this dialogue V tells Jackie to change exhaust pipies. He does.

[@SayMy_User_Name]

Yeah I noticed this on my last play through, when I got Jackie’s bike it showed as “Jackie’s tuned arch” and I’d never seen it say tuned before so I knew something was different.. pretty cool

[@Jack-yq6ui]

These type of nonsense differences are just salt in the wounds when something as obvious as paying victor his 21k immediately (takes alot of work) does absolutely nothing and actually slightly breaks the game. This game is a genuine piece of junk. People are so easy to please. A handfull of updates made this game BARELY PLAYABLE and suddenly people forget how this was sold to them, not only that but they praise this JUNK into the high heavens as if it was some godsend game. This is absolute trash. Please get me right, T R A S H

[@itchykami]

"You don't want to rope your friends into this, but I'm going to rope my girlfriend into this." - Johnny

[@dawndarklight44]

He said V's friends. Not his own.

[@Colorful-xo1lr]

@@dawndarklight44good catch

[@DKarkarov]

I actually think Johnny makes a lot of sense in these scenes when he talks about why you don't want to involve panam. But I also generally think the guy gets a bad wrap from most players in general, he is kind of a jerk... but it isn't like he doesn't have justified reasons for how he feels.

[@monmonmon6434]

Your character might be effecting him too.

[@DKarkarov]

@@monmonmon6434 That's actually a really good point.

[@Damar158]

Except he's a Cyberpsycho who nuked countless people while alive.

[@gb__wicho1878]

The Johnny hate is unreal.I loved him more than Jackie by the end of the game

[@Camothor10]

Johnny is the only real on the only person really on your side that understands you

[@crvcrfing]

„You have come” *cyberpunk theme starts playing*

[@Slickdown]

Extremely horny Hanako

[@nickywatkins2061]

Perhaps it's just me but it annoyed me that when acting as a corpo that being polite to Hanako negatively impacted my relationship Johnny so much. There was no way I was ever going to side with her, but I didn't want Arasaka to know that. With the corpo background, I was role-playing V knowing that manipulative game & was surprised no dialogue options came up to explain that to Johnny.

[@not_you_i_dont_even_know_you]

SAME

[@madeline6951]

I mean, what is there to explain? If you still use corpo tactics to get what you want, instead of being an honest and straightforward person, you're still the same as any other corpo. Nothing here to explain or defend. That's the thing you should've learned at that point. I adore playing corpo V, I think that lifepath makes the most sense in the context of the story and that's what makes it meaningful when you refuse to choose corpo options to squirm before these maniacs. Johnny explains it best in The Devil ending for those who didn't get it: it's about the principles.

[@nickywatkins2061]

@@madeline6951 Wow. Not sure why that needed to get so personal in suggesting I hadn't learnt anything or that by not revealing everything to everyone was representative of dishonesty/being unprincipled to be honest. But okay, I see your point that for Johnny it was his way or the highway and that morality is just that simple. Take care of yourself.

[@madeline6951]

@@nickywatkins2061 what? I wasn't intending to attack specifically you, that's just my take on the narrative. That's how Johnny criticizes V in The Devil, saying V's still just a petty thief deep down and the reason they seek out Johnny while on the Arasaka surgical table is because they wanted a "good" ending to a relationship not realising they completely betrayed not even Johnny (though him too, especially if he's your friend), but themselves. Don't take it personally. Any "you" there was supposed to represent V.

[@Erucus]

@@nickywatkins2061 That’s just how Johnny thinks and the end is just his opinion not personal at all why’re you offended

[@TalkingHands308]

The increasing rain in order to get rid of distractions is actually pretty smart. It's something Valve did with Half Life 2, given that they didn't want to force the player's attention they had to find ways to kind of draw your attention to where they want you to look at. Seems like they are using similar tactics here in this game.

[@Redsword1550]

I'd love to see some kind of small documentary about something like this. Game design is fascinating.

[@TalkingHands308]

@@Redsword1550 Half Life 2 had an in-game commentary that was pretty unique in that there were floating dialog icons around the game you could activate and the developer would provide commentary about that part of the game. Would be awesome if they did that for CP2077.

[@Yada_690]

Came back to this comment to say that they do this again in phantom liberty when talking with songbird

[@SuperJayShin]

One thing iv never seen anyone mention about this mission is when you walk into embers hanako is playing nocturne op. 55 no. 1 which is also the name of the mission nocturne op55n

[@B3llyk0]

All the main mission names are song names

[@satsui2424]

literally majority of people know that lmfao

[@Keldro69]

@@satsui2424 i did not know this at all so

[@PPpaladin]

@@satsui2424 I don't either

[@ZarZar57]

@@satsui2424 I didn’t know that

[@psyberfunk]

Too bad there isn't a bang Hanako route..

[@MK-rw1on]

she a badie fr

[@azkar65]

Can you believe she is 80 years old? Still hot af

[@psyberfunk]

@@azkar65 bangin body fr

[@azkar65]

@@psyberfunk a shame we can't romance her

[@aruji-sama]

​@@azkar65wtf

[@Yusuke_Denton]

Haha, I like how she rolls her eyes when you choose the CORPO option "I know my place too." Like she would almost respect V more if he was a rebel or solo, instead of another sniveling corporat who just wants to work for her again.

[@TheJuggerClutch]

I didn't really see an eye roll, just a side-eye from trying to maintain eye contact while turning her head. but ill say that would definitely track with her sympathy towards yorinobu though when he left the arasakas the first time and came back.

[@joeallen7781]

She was making eye contact even while moving her head and reaching for the glass, sign she is respectfully listening despite performing another task. You conclude "she rolled her eyes", interesting take, based on the imaginary, but interesting.

[@Seoul_Soldier]

You say "eyeroll", I say maintaining eye contact while reaching for her glass. Hanako does NOT respect rebels. If you knew anything about her character you'd have known that.

[@ps5426]

Already played through as Corpo and I gotta tell you if Johnny tells you this is not going to end well you better believe him and then research the 5 min wait secret ending.

[@malec8517]

@@ps5426 100% don't do what you saying, that ending is the same Johnny lies to you.

[@CaptainMattnight]

A fascinating prospective. Your videos have certainly improved my enjoyment of Cyberpunk. Thank you. I appreciatre all the work you obviously put in.

[@SayMy_User_Name]

I’d love to see a video exploring theories on what Yorinobu’s plans actually were, I haven’t seen anyone really exploring him throughout the game.. Once I did the arasaka ending I got the feeling that he was actually trying to destroy arasaka from the inside, I mean he basically says as much just in a very cryptic way, but I’d love to see his actions explored on a video

[@OneDragon]

I always hoped they'd give us more content/ DLC on Yorinobu's perspective because his actions seem world changing.

[@michaelrandolph6373]

I heard in the source material yorinobu intended to take over the company and work with Militech to destroy Arasaka from the inside and the outside at the same time. He may be portrayed as a villain in game but I think he and Johnny have a LOT in common. He actually cut ties with his family in disgust and started his own gang or nomad clan can’t remember after he found out Saburo wanted to destroy America and create a global Japanese empire.

[@Yusuke_Denton]

@@michaelrandolph6373 Street gang in Asia. :)

[@MisterCynic18]

@@michaelrandolph6373 Steel Dragons, Jackie makes fun of it during the heist. Ironic how Yorinobu is treated as a fake rebel by the narrative but turns out to almost be the most effective one by a mile.

[@jdbeast]

Man I wish that as well. Like an option where you could actually side with him, and he agrees because you avenged Evelyn or something...

[@SuperJayShin]

First time I did this I avoided taking a drink from her in the slim chance they poisoned it

[@silverbane8065]

glad im not the only one that had this thought, though, i was thinking it would make a good 'excuse' as to why suddenly, V is falling down half dead, when we (players) have not had so many relic malfunctions up to that point. we used to have them all the time, getting worse, but they patched the major ones in and the random ones out, far as i know. now you just get the scripted ones and the coughing in the shower ones.

[@Softpaw1996]

same. I was like, a pre poured drink? no thank you! honestly wanted to switch her drink with mine just to be sure.

[@ricekrispies4994]

@@silverbane8065wait there used to be relic malfunctions outside story cutscenes? That sounds like it would make a cool mode

[@silverbane8065]

@@ricekrispies4994 yep. this was back before 1.6 iirc. a lot of people complained about the malfunctions tho. i think a good chunk of those were serial cheesers tho. (that is, players who stand outside a vendor and wait 24hrs to keep refreshing the stock items. on PC you could mod to get the vendors to have their full inventory all the time, but console folks didn't have that option, so would stand outside a store, waiting 24rhs to get new items. some Vs would be there for a bloody year XD) i would see them on youtube, the 'wait' timer going around, then clearing, V coughing, swearing or grunting in pain, the screen going red at the edges. then, they changed it to scripted points. there were one or two outside of the big ones (one i saw most was, as you were coming out of Afterlife to go call Panam for the first time) now, there are a few more, but not many. there might be a mod to return them, but most players dont want to be reminded of the timer, even if its only advanced by the player doing main quest points.

[@Eltortilllero2]

@@ricekrispies4994people complained

[@ZeRo-_-InfInIty]

I was literally about to choose her. But the game goes out of its way to put everything in your way from choosing that option. Like it's saying to your face " you really haven't learned your lesson?" yet moment. Understanding that nothing really matters besides the ones you love. If you can escape night city alive even for a little bit.......your more than a legend.

[@treacherousjslither6920]

You're a dead man walking. Hanako gives you a chance to live forever. If you don't take it, everything you've done after waking up in that ditch has been for nothing.

[@alvaroprieto6700]

@@treacherousjslither6920 nope dying is better then what happens after that ending, they have complete control over you now

[@lemao2222]

​@@treacherousjslither6920 there are three takes there: 1 - For some, six months of freedom is better than decades of being Arasaka's property to do as they please with. 2 - There are hints that V might find a solution in some of the endings. Don't take Johnny's word on the Aldecaldos at face value, he's quite ignorant and conceited about anybody other than himself. In the TTRPG lore, Nomads actually boast a very resourceful network and some of the best education out there, rivalling those you get from megacorps, without the strings attached. They might actually help V live longer. And the Sun Ending has V going on a raid to Crystal Palace in space. There are speculations that there's something there that might help V's situation. 3 - Other than suicide and devil ending, V becomes a Night City legend. That's a sort of immortality, in and of itself.

[@treacherousjslither6920]

@@lemao2222 Way I see it V just becomes what Johnny was. He didn't seem to have it so bad. Better than being dead at least. As the years pass maybe V will find a way to escape or even possess a new body. No one knows what the future holds but if you're an immortal you can live long enough to find out.

[@lemao2222]

@@treacherousjslither6920 I dunno about that. Johnny constantly complains about being an engram. Didn't sound like a great way of existence, and he at least had 'some' agency in V. Can't imagine there's any sort of freedom in Mikoshi whatsoever. Existing for the sake of existing, not able to really do anything, sounds like hell to me. And remember, Arasaka is under no obligation to keep V as he is. And you know how much they like to... experiment. V literally gives the greenlight to become a ginea pig. No telling what will come out on the other side. Or where. There's a reason why they associate Arasaka with the devil arcana. They always keep their end of the deal, but not in the way you intended.

[@platinum9246]

I never got Hanako's guards pulling out their guns...

[@thegrandmagus]

For that you need to have every optional conversation and let the meeting go nicely

[@tomasbar1101]

What, I played the game 5 times and never had them pull out their guns

[@thegrandmagus]

@@tomasbar1101 you need to be a corp as well

[@lialpie]

Piss johnny off in the meeting. That's how you do it

[@ReelGuyTv]

I love the way Johnny stares at her throughout the entire conversation. Pure hatred. And in the elevator he almost becomes a different person even willing to sacrifice V's right to life just so he'll get another shot at destroying Arasaka.

[@Jaszi007]

You know the crazy thing about this game? You can play through and get access to EVERY ending and then just make your choice after you “check out” in the elevator.

[@joaquizzletwizzle]

Mind explaining whatcha mean?

[@Jaszi007]

@@joaquizzletwizzle Of course. If you do all the missions, main, side, or otherwise, and get the positive outcomes from them ie. betraying the Voodoo Boys, going on a date with Rogue, getting to the point where you can go on a date with Judy, Panam, and River separately of course, not killing Takemura’s friend in that last kidnapping mission, and w/e other character missions you then have the ability to choose ANY ending path that exists. *SPOILERS* 1. Side w/Arasaka and give them your brain data to be used at a later date. 2. Get Panam to help you break into Arasaka. 3. Get Rogue to help you break into Arasaka. 4. “Secret Ending” Go in guns blazing in a suicide mission. There’s also the 2 choices, going with Alt to cyberspace or going back to your body and trying to find a way to fix it. There’s also variations for Johnny’s ending versions that change based on which choice you make after “checking out” in the elevator.

[@00_187]

​@@Jaszi007you forgot to mention the roof suicide ending, wait for a couple minutes with pills in your head and then there will be a prompt to shoot yourself in the head or something

[@kikosawa]

​@@Jaszi007you also have to betray Songbird now

[@Jaszi007]

@@kikosawa Dang. Depending on how you feel that could SUCK.

[@KH-cs7sj]

Hanako didn't tell a single lie yet if the player choose to work with her they still feel betrayed and lied to in the end. That's the art of communication.

[@gorgonramsey3719]

She still lied. Hanako said that she'd "help V", and she clearly didn't do that. She put them into a hospital, yes, but considering that Saburo clearly sees V as either a threat or a powerful resource, it's obvious that he either wants them to survive as the new Adam Smasher, or die . Honestly, the best thing that can happen in this route is V going back to earth to sell the data they got from the relic to Militech, which would not just be worth billions but would also get them in good graces with another large Megacorp, and this time, it's one that doesn't have a reason to kill or enslave them. For all they know, V is just a mercenary that got caught up in Arasaka politics unintentionally, gaining valuable intel in the process, all somehow without dying. If anything, Militech would offer them help as a signing bonus, especially considering that they'd have Stout vouching for them.

[@KH-cs7sj]

@@gorgonramsey3719 Hanako already did the best she could by giving Vi the first Relic separation operation in human history in a state-of-the-art facility on a space station. It's just that the technology is not there yet but I wouldn't consider that as a lie. Btw Vi has already gained all the design documents of Relic from Hellman. That will be more than enough intelligence to sell to Militech. The only problem is, Vi has got no time to spend the money. Perhaps he could donate it to Panam's clan.

[@madeline6951]

@@gorgonramsey3719 I don't think either Saburo or Hanako concern themselves with your existence after the successful stabilisation of the company. They see themselves as gods, and in this economy they might as well be. V is just a happy coincidence, in that they can help advance the knowledge on Relic-related procedures, but that's about it. Saburo's engram even laughs at you if you relay to him a "friendly" message from Johnny. You're one of the most powerful mercs in Night City, and they laugh at you. The game takes careful strides to always remind you that no matter how powerful you are, how much cyberware or gunpower you pack, the corps are a different beast entirely. They're like an eldritch horror that can't be hurt if you merely enact physical harm. Much like Saburo, corps come back in an even more horrific and violent way. That's why I think Hanako truly doesn't lie at all. From her point of view, she extended the greatest boon she had to offer. In exchange for preserving her power, you get a little bit of fleeting hope (which, to be honest, is hard to come by in NC) and an honour to further Arasaka's greatest project. She's wrong, of course, but she didn't lie.

[@Treyway31201]

0:57 Johnny's reaction in the background lol

[@RoIand]

WoW, these variations surprised me, I thought I had seen all of them considering that I did all the endings and repeated this mission a lot of times for that. Also, you are not the only one who gets that clipping in Hanako's collar, it happens to me too.

[@Chris.P.Bacon7]

0:52 Yes mommy Hanako, I did.

[@redsol3629]

The outcome is clear when you realise Hanako's driving desire. She does not want to die. You hear that song on the piano? Shes terrified of the void. Knowing this, her motives are clear from the start.

[@pedambr199]

i never got those lines nice johnny reactions thanks for the upload

[@MrRemmington]

This analysis was brilliant, never looed at it this way before.

[@noyoureatowel.8029]

Call me a fool, but compared to Hanako I believe Mr. Blue Eyes is the best possible chance for survival. Perhaps Aldecaldos have the right connections but if V never wanted to leave Night City then I’d bet my money on the man controlling the Peralez and other shady practices. That is if V is even successful pulling off the casino heist. (I believe they are)

[@weliketotastethelove]

Misty's cards show good fortune for V in the Nomad ending. So i always treat that ending as the true good ending for V.

[@quantumfrost9467]

@@weliketotastethelove this is a good point

[@quantumfrost9467]

Yeah, totally agree. Those two endings seem like the most likely to have an actual meaningful future

[@bengunn9670]

V is dead in those endings. Alt straight-up tells that. You play as V-based AI.

[@larrymunn5279]

@@bengunn9670 mhm. I love how this games deals with issues of identity crisis and mortality. If you died and were replaced by a perfect copy of you, is it you? It feels like most people, even V, would rather just look the other way and say it is. But objectively the V that strove to survive died in the basement of Arasaka tower. Death is an inevitability no one can escape and this game brings the player uncomfortably close to issues of mortality. The struggle to accept it and the desperation to find a way out.

[@WhiterunGuard001]

It's still beyond crazy that Yorinobu Arasaka was right...... He was the good guy. 💀💀

[@Colorful-xo1lr]

Thanks for this their was so many segment and cutscenes I couldn’t keep up, but this saved me.

[@tristan1255]

hanako is fine af, change my mind

[@SentientDMT]

I'd give her the Johnny Silvercock treatment

[@dr.romanfell1933]

I won't, she's as dazzling as a star💝

[@OuterHaven_Snake]

I hadnt played the game in a long time, recently did this ending as a Corpo and yeah it sucks, I signed the contract and the way V walks into the operating room at the end is just so depressing and almost pathetic- like you're being tricked with no way out just to survive.

[@Colorful-xo1lr]

I didn’t sign that shit.

[@OuterHaven_Snake]

@Colorful-xo1lr ; Yeah fuck that I went back and did the Phantom Liberty ending

[@princessjoyce704]

Wow it’s so many lines and options in this game. I love it

[@TomahawksNShotShells]

I read a shard somewhere that Hanako was born in 1999 or something like that. If that's the case she's in her late 70s! Saburo was 158....these Arasakas are built different

[@silverbane8065]

its easy. you get sculpt jobs, update and replace parts (cloned probably) that get too worn out and use rejuvenation stuff. there are adverts in laptops all over the City, talking about treatments that can reduce your age. Saburo only looks as old as he did, because he preferd not to use cyberware. if you notice, he's one of the few characters using GLASSES to see properly. everyone else has them for show. sunglasses and so on. he's been going the full rejuve thing. transfusions, replaced cloned organs, sleeping in oxy bubbles and all the trends that were hip back in the 80's 90' s and noughties lol, that the rich were doing to stop them aging. Yorinobu got cyberware, and Hanako just gets cosmetic surgery and some basic implants/fashonware. but Saburo looks like he hasnt got ANY cyberware. I think he is sacred to use it, which is why he's going the 'transfer yourself into a new body' route rather than 'make your current body better by swapping it for chrome' way.

[@greenbrickbox3392]

What the best tech and money in the world can get you in cyberpunk universe

[@PandoraWolveCrow]

They could did drink all of Adenochrome..... XD

[@ryanrusch3976]

I really don't understand how people can dislike Johnny Silverhand.

[@jacobtebbe4435]

We were expecting a partner in crime, we got a bitchy body snatcher. Don’t get me wrong, I love Johnny in the later game but early on he’s hard to take. It also doesn’t help that he’s literally, if inadvertently killing you. If there was a way for you keep going as is, share the body with him being your advisor and confidante, it’d be a lot easier to like him. Also, he is a bit of an ass and impulsive fuck up in his background. If you read the game book for Cyberpunk Red, you find out that Alt was telling the truth about his impulsiveness getting her killed. She had the situation completely in hand and was 30 seconds from jacking out back into her own body when he ripped her cords and locked her up in the NET

[@kingol4801]

@@jacobtebbe4435People have too many expectations…

[@nathannix3217]

@@kingol4801 Johnny not being a manipulative idiot is too high of an expectation? 😂

[@cyber_rachel7427]

​@jacobtebbe4435 I have to admit, I was expecting Johnny to be more like Celebrimbor from the Shadow of Mordor/War games. Inhabiting your body, having a complex relationship with you, and then being able to like release control to him in combat akin to Elven Rage in SoW I still like 2077 and still like Johnny, but I definitely think the way he was implemented stinks of 'lets make as much of this game as possible hinge on the Keanu character'

[@aw2031zap]

He is not presented well, especially if you come into the game blind w/o any knowledge of Cybperpunk like most people. He has few redeeming qualities and he supposedly murdered thousands of people with a nuke. I think you could empathize with him more under otehr circumstances.

[@linak429]

This is terrible. If you go straight for Arasaka ending without picking up any help on the way, it's the bleakest scenario for Johnny. He knows he's getting shredded or returned to prison at best. And he still takes V to the ripper. He could just hijack the body at this point, but he doesn't. He's really a good guy. I don't understand why so many players seem to dislike him.

[@alexsolomon7991]

it's funny that NONE of the endings involve the Eurocorporations....which specialize in BIOWARE tech and could very likely grow V a new body., or maybe even just fix the old one with some funky nano-manupulation or retroviral treatments. Or make a body for Johnny, for that matter. Everyone's SOOOO focused on Militech vs. Arasaka....... Now, some chooms may be thinking: "why would the Euros be interested in listening to you?" Answer: they wouldn't. Buuuuuut.....they might pay attention to Netwatch. Which you sort of have some leftover business with, if what went down in Pacifica or the deal that Yorinobu was originally hatching has escaped your memories. Hell,, Netwatch might even actually be greatful for V stopping Saburo from becoming a freaking Cyber-god.

[@karambiatos]

In the Sun ending it's hinted at that there may be hope yet. Mr.Blue eyes and V hint at it saying "you better keep your end of the deal" Mr.Blue Eyes: "Oh i never forget a promise". Meaning V isn't doing the space station heist for money or just money but something else is on the table. And the ending with Panam the same is hinted as well.

[@HontasFarmer80]

If you are Corpo V you know all kinds of Arasaka secrets. Corpo V could defect to another corp and start chirping like a bird.

[@kaiserc2471]

"Excellent, you have come." "Many times in preparation for this meeting. nice to meet you. " *holds out hand*

[@keto4366]

First ending I got. I was all for helping Arasaka, but helping them is totally unrewarding. I get to life, but there is no way of knowing if you ever be in a body again and you probably sold all roghts to Arasaka

[@Leonson1]

That also depends on how consciousness works and whether engrams have a soul. Are you still V or are you a copy of V and V is dead?

[@lumikarhu]

@@Leonson1 i think getting shot in the head by dexter makes it clear that we're not playing the same V anymore. Seen Mr. Robot? I've noticed plenty similarities to the series and cyberpunk btw. Anyway, this is why I believe the only good ending is storming arasaka alone and giving your body away to Johnny. He'll live, pay respects, you'll die anyway. The ONLY disappointing thing in this case is that Rogue for some reason doesn't like it. She'd rather see V alive instead.

[@drlukas4242]

Also the tv showed that the world was fucked by Arisaka. So I immediately reloaded a save and brought the gang back together with Rogue and Johnny destroying them.

[@keithw4920]

@@Leonson1 The game dialogue said many times (including Alt) that an engram is just a program, not a real person or soul.

[@pinnacleevolution1634]

@@lumikarhu "in this case is that Rogue for some reason doesn't like it" maybe because she's one of the few people that managed to live a long life in Night City without losing her soul or selling out to a corpo.

[@WetPickle998]

Every true man took a sip before answering

[@cbcinfla]

Good analysis of the branches, nice job. And can we pause and f**king admire Keanu Reeve's voice acting?

[@samreddig8819]

No, his acting as Johnny is awful.

[@chrispekel5709]

Its so bad its good

[@pancakes8816]

I actually didn't like Reeves in this game. He sounds soulless and bored most of the time

[@JohnAprile]

@@pancakes8816 Well duhhh it's Johhny Silverhand

[@Elle_Driver]

@@pancakes8816 100% agree, the guy is wooden af

[@Mic_Glow]

Hanako, the evil princess ❤

[@dr.romanfell1933]

She's gorgeous and not evil at all🥰🥰

[@pinnacleevolution1634]

Man Yorinobu is the unsung hero of this story, everyone had him wrong from the start. Shame we saw so little of him during the game, believe he is the only corpo that isn't a total piece of shit and his story isn't so different from a corpo V. His time with the steel dragons would've showed him another side of life like being "fired" from Arasaka showed V.

[@stevenyukabacera160]

It's fascinating that the only ending where you learn about Yorinobu's heroic nature is also the only ending where you basically kill him

[@jaysart9341]

The way V said Shut up to johnny is funny 😂😂

[@titus031190]

Yes, you know this melody in the backgorund, when V gets to the elevator, it's Chopin's Nocturne in F minor used in the Witcher 2 trailer "Hope" ... nice little touche

[@nobleskywalker4639]

Saburo values family EXCUSE ME while I laugh HA HA HA. Saburo was gonna use his son as the vessel for the relic program

[@DJ-1Q84]

The Devils ending sucks as far as video game endings go; everyone wants a happy ending after spending so long invested in a story. However if they ever turn Cyberpunk 2077 into a movie the Devils ending is probably the most appropiate ending for the cyberpunk genre.

[@TheCrownedSun]

That or the secret ending, but one where V dies halfway through the tower before even seeing Mikoshi.

[@Borzy247]

Amazing video one dragon!

[@scrooge-mcduck]

I really like the little bow you gave as greeting to Hanako-Sama.

[@Eggsteinito]

V: *bows* Johnny: *visible dissapointment*

[@charlieb.6172]

For anyone who cares, the quest is named “Nocturnes OP55N1” because *Nocturnes, Op. 55: No. 1 in F Minor by Frédéric Chopin* is the song Hanako is playing on the piano. It’s a really pretty piece if you want to listen to it.

[@Sigismund-von-Luxembourg]

It's a shame that V can't have a fling with Hanako, Would be sort of funny to explain to Johnny "What better way is there to stick it to your mortal enemy than seducing his daughter?" which would just leave Johnny kind of stumped.

[@wren9725]

she is 80 years old, V is like 27, that's some reverse dicaprio type shit lmao

[@Sigismund-von-Luxembourg]

@@wren9725 Let V be a grave robber for the lulz

[@baned188]

@@wren9725 Kerry is like 90 years old lol

[@TheDezembro]

What I learned from this very detailed analysis: - V is checking out again.

[@bibby659]

"Great, you checking out again?!"

[@octavius9685]

This game releasing unfinished doesnt hurt me as bad as the lack of new content.. Jesus christ, ive ran out of random people to kill in NightCity already..

[@enxgma8085]

it's crazy that i get to see a street boy (my pick) who came from low society casually talking to one of the most powerful and richest person in the world. That being in night city, where social inequality is stronger than ever.

[@Dark_Brandon_2024]

cdpr are gods of narration and storytelling, such a masterpiece game

[@NoonyJW]

Would like to imagine that the cut Meredith Stout content could’ve lead to a Militech v Arasaka corporate war Ending

[@Erazoth]

4:00 "You prefer to keep your guard up. Understandable but unnecessary." *Evil smug*

[@Dragonking-vp4sx]

I actually think hanako and Arasaka will keep their word. V is too powerful of an asset to waste. Imagine what they could do with the power of having all V’s rights and privileges. Crazy shit.

[@dr.romanfell1933]

Long live the new Adam Smasher! Meet V, Saburo Arasaka's personal bodyguard!

[@still_guns]

By the title, I thought you could flirt with Hanako or something XD

[@johnnystankiewicz295]

That corpo dialogue really wants me wanna puke too lmao. Its so stupid that v can even say he wants to come back in the corpo after the shit he had to go trough

[@sunofabeach9424]

Arasaka didn't actually do anything to V. V robbed Arasaka, kidnapped Hanako, killed a lot of Arasaka's people and destroyed its property. And it's also not Arasaka who inserted the chip into V's head or put a bullet into it afterwards. But between Arasaka and Johnny it is personal, that's why he is going to puke.

[@johnnystankiewicz295]

@@sunofabeach9424 Have you played V's prologue? He hated this job and was tired of it, and now he wants to just go back? After becoming an expert mercenary with contacts and friends everywhere? Thats nonsense. And he shouldnt excpect any bonuses when he joins them again, they will forget him like they did after his brain operation in The Devil.

[@sunofabeach9424]

@@johnnystankiewicz295 yes, he hated his job, then he became a merc - and now he will die in 2 weeks. Before the last mission V says that it all began when he turned his back to Arasaka and may be if he turns back everything will become normal again. Mf just wants his normal life back. And eventually, Arasaka did what they could lol, the ending is basically the same - V lives for 6 months after the operation then he dies completely, if he chooses so And if you didn't do additional quests, V doesn't really get that many friends

[@johnnystankiewicz295]

@@sunofabeach9424 He became a merc, which always comes at risk but its definetly better than having a nightmare of a job everyday and being treated like shit by higher ups. Knowing well that you are working for bad people. As a merc he had a lot of interesting adventures with nomads, takemura, river etc. And what do you mean "he doesnt have friends if you dont do quests"? Quests are here to complete them, so lorewise he probably does meet all those people. Its like saying V lives forever because you can just avoid the ending forever. And he wasnt jumping from happiness thinking about his old life, he wanted to be a NC legend not a corpo rat.

[@Jereb343]

No branching choices my ass. Wonder how many thing like this there are all over the game nobody is talking about. Youre doing gods work my dude.

[@epilisium]

Unless it changes the entire course of the main story then it doesn't count. Sorry dude I don't make the rules.

[@joeallen7781]

Heres something from georgia tech, which im sure you never read about: "A branching story structure is a story graph - a directed graph of nodes connected by arcs that represent user choices. Every possible path through the graph represents a story that can be told to the user." Do you think different stories are being told here? even by the end of one small conversation, Hanako is already reverting to the exact same dialogue, no matter the choices you make. There is no branching in cyberpunk, the story is exactly the same for everyone. Your "choices" are play the game, or don't play it, leaving side missions undone are the only driving force behind any change, tiny as it may be.

[@Jereb343]

@@joeallen7781 it is fascinating to me how you make a statement and then disprove it right after. You yourself claim that any number of different paths through the given nodes represent a different story being told and then claim that doesn't work here cuz it's only a single story here (which it isn't but never mind that). If an encounter with Hanako has numerous nodes in it that you can or cannot go through then each exclusion or inclusion represents a new branch. The fact that the conversation has a fixed conclusion means nothing and is akin to claiming that a walk through the forest and along the highway are equivalent cuz you always end up at the same place. Which you don't in cyberpunk cuz many conversations do end differently based on what you say and do but I'm sure you don't know about that. Your attempt at being an intellectual only makes you look dumber in the process

[@joeallen7781]

@@Jereb343 I've played thru it, but just in case i hadn't, i am quite literally looking at the video that displays cyberpunks "branching", where half the words in the paragraph are changed, but the final quarter remains the exact same in order to make way for the exact same railroaded conclusion, which also means your analogy is wank, and has few to no links to whats on display. More akin representation would be a walk in the woods, but because theres "branching", if you're just the right amount of attentive, you might notice a second or third tree that you didn't notice before. Congratulations, did that change any aspect of the forest? seems for you, it did, but don't mind me, i just cannot reach your 300 IQ levels of intelect. There is no branching, in neither main nor sidequests.

[@iceman5117]

@@joeallen7781 what would "the exact same railroaded conclusion" be?

[@lucastesch2450]

It's not necessary. The dialouge only appears with the conversation between v and johnny Silverhand at the mission:"chippin in" where johnny and v are on johnny's grave, and the dialouge options matters: johnny to v:"But i've managed one thing for now. Not to fuck this up, what we have." You need to select the second dialouge. V dialouge option ("Nah, fucked that up too."). Spoken Conversation from V:"Nah, Johnny. You fucked that up, too. You used me, lied to me... i can't trust you at all." Johnny to V:"Ahem, is it too late to ask for a second chance?". Select the dialouge option:("what do you want from me?"). Spoken dialouge v to johnny:"what d'you want from me?" Johnny to V (normal dialouge to the new dialouge at the end johnny :"at least, so it seemed... till now"):"Most people i thought were my friends, they couldn't even stand to be in the same room with me. You fuckin' closest to me by a long shot. There twenty-four seven. And yet... you don't seem to hate my living guts. At least so it seemed... till now." And:"and then you have to select the dialouge Option:"Ok. But as second chance go, this is your last." Spoken dialouge V to johnny:"Ok. But as second chance go this is your last. I refuse to be that naive." (He'll use this second chance to encourage and plan a wild suicide run.)/unlocked "Secret ending (Don't Fear) The Reaper" after you wait 5 or 6 Minutes on the rooftop at vik's clinic and that's also included the "new dialouge at the beginning in this Video johnny to V:"what am i doing? I'm showing you what it's like to feel fuckin' trapped. Asked you. Warned you. But you've insisted on not giving a shit." I try it out yesterday and i can confirm it this is the *only way* to get this whole new dialouge between johnny Silverhand and v in the elevator after you go in the elevator (leaving the embers).

[@Peachypeeps]

The overall story to Cyberpunk I enjoyed... what I didn't enjoy was all the bugs that came with it. The most annoying were the sound bugs; dialogue layering on top of one another. Quite jarring.

[@beleagueredbeluga5228]

Why does Johnny hate Hanako that much? All she did was be the daughter of Saburo as far as I can see. So she wants you to expose her brother to the board members so that she can take control of Arasaka, and in return she'll help you with the biochip, so whats the big deal here?

[@atrailofblood]

Cause Arasaka is fuckin evil

[@Carlosdreamur]

He dosen’t trust corps and thinks Hankako will betray you. Which is exactly what she does…

[@LuckyAJC]

@@atrailofblood how? not once in the game do they show you that they are evil. characters just keep saying it

[@atrailofblood]

@@LuckyAJC really? their goons are always assaulting poor civs. they lie regularly in commercials, they steal peoples fkn souls basically so they can interrogate them. they put a massive paywall up so that most people cant afford to get 'educated' which is really just being able to buy your way into middle class which makes people desperate to do crazy shit to get the money to make it. "Over the years, it has developed a dark reputation as a corporation that is to be feared and one which covers its tracks using assassins, an army of lawyers, as well as an alleged connection to the Yakuza" the list goes on and on but you can just look up all the fucked up shit they do yourself unless youd rather continue thinking they are 'Fine/Good' :)

[@NikkiC30]

@@LuckyAJC you don’t think it’s evil to put peoples very essence on a digital construct? They do show that they are evil by what their power and influence have brought to Night City. Look at what’s viewed as normal? Look when they brought up Mikoshi to Hanako, she wasn’t surprised or disgusted because she knew all along and saw nothing wrong with it.

[@brandon7215]

4:39 she tapped the table like a code order or something, is it some sort of secret or was it random?

[@hakanbrakankrakan]

just looks like fidgeting to me, and i couldn't find anything that responded to it in the scene

[@b4ph0m3t3]

Given the attention to every details in this game. There is no way it was just a random move. It HAS to mean something. Especially since she tap the table again later in the scene. In the middle of the discussion.

[@hakanbrakankrakan]

@@b4ph0m3t3 also the game is lacking in detail in many areas (side content, postgame content, life path differences, enterable buildings, romances, etc.)

[@garethsentry]

I think it is a tick she has when showing impatience. Notice the dialigue at the time and her response.

[@JrockXavieReborn]

"Great! You're checkin' out again?!?!" Hahaha

[@nightmaremaster7731]

Corporal, get together party, and Johnny silver hand as the bartender, pick your poison, milady or sir lol

[@Second_Splitter]

I think I'm checking out again or something idk.

[@PandoraWolveCrow]

Details are all into devil 👿 hehe

[@topbanana.2627]

johnny needs to chill

[@jugandoclasicos]

I like the way you move - V -

[@StaK_1980]

I'd like to know what Hanako is tipping on the desk. She has done it twice.

[@SentientDMT]

I think it's a tick. Like when she's impatient

[@Cugastratos]

I have a cold blooded assassin corpo who likes smart weapon sniping. I haven't finished it yet, but she will jump on Hanako's offer, no regrets.

[@elizel90]

Had anyone else tried mimicking the way she taps her fingers on the bar, because I have. 😂

[@thebabyshpee6508]

We got to meet hanako at embers before gta 6.

[@dauphongii]

Siding with Hanako and accepting her deal to V is actually the only way you can live further. In every other ending, V dies after a couple months. Storing your mind in Mikoshi is really just the only way there is any possible hope for the future. In my playthrough I just felt like that would be the best option, because in reality I would do the same. You have 6 months to live. No matter how you spend them, it would only get worse and worse until you die. If you accept Hanako's deal, well, you do technically die, however if Hanako chooses to keep her word, V might live sometime in the future in a new body. Now you could say, why would Hanako kept her word when, by accepting her deal, you are practically giving her all your rights to your body? There is no definitive answer whether she will keep her word or no, although, in my playthrough we did get along fairly well, so there might be higher chance of rescue if you were to get on her good side rather than help her but constantly show that it is your only option and you don't like doing so. However as for the answer, even if there is 1% chance Hanako will keep her deal, it is still more than zero, and considering that we basically rescued her and kept our word when it came to not hurting her brother, I do believe she would likely keep her word.

[@noahmendoza8548]

But like you said, you still do die. Even if V lives again in a new body, it’s not this V, the “real” V. It’s a copy. So you don’t really live any longer.

[@dauphongii]

@@noahmendoza8548 it's actually just your body that dies. Your mind is stored and your mind is what makes you. You can see that Saburo is still very much Saburo, and actually didn't die. When his body was removed, when his mind was stored and he received new body, Saburo was aware. So there is no copy paradox. It is still you, it is not a copy who will act like you.

[@noahmendoza8548]

@@dauphongii well I guess the game doesn’t really emphasize this theme so perhaps maybe in this universe somehow your “soul” does really transfer, but they do allude to it with the ship of Theseus bit when you’re in the Arasaka station. My point is that yes, the engram created from soul killer is the real you from what we can tell. It is the essence of everything you are up to that point, and it is sentient and capable of learning, changing, and growing as we can see from saburo and Johnny. To those engrams, it doesn’t even feel like they died probably. But they did. If you or I were to go through soul killer, we wouldn’t suddenly wake up in cyberspace or in a new body. Our engrams would, and to them it would seem like a perfect transition. But the real you, that is thinking and breathing right now, 100% dies. Again, I guess I could be wrong about Cyberpunk’s take on this concept but I do think they suggest this. Games like Soma base their whole story around this concept and it’s pretty compelling IMO. Adds a whole new sinister layer to the idea of human digitization and the question of the soul.

[@dauphongii]

@@noahmendoza8548 i believe it is your body that dies, not your soul, although it is called soul killer, but the thing is, we don't really know until we try. you can't tell a person died if the person is still very alive. so maybe you are right and you do die, or maybe not, the thing is, it is very probable that not even Arasaka knows this, since knowing this would require for you to go through the soul killer yourself, and if a 'copy' of you is made who still retains your memories and is very much alive, you can't tell if it's the old you or really a copy.

[@noahmendoza8548]

@@dauphongii I do think you’re right that even Arasaka and the game’s characters don’t really understand this. But this is a a pretty common sci-fi trope, especially in the cyberpunk genre. Like I said, go look up the ending of Soma if you want an example of someone being horrified to realize that when they get “copied”, it’s just that, and you get left behind in a state of confusion as your copy goes on to safety while you wait to die. But if that doesn’t convince you, look at Cyberpunk 2077 itself. The ONLY character that really understands this concept in the game appears to be Alt, who herself created the technology to do it. She tries over and over again to explain to Johnny that she is NOT Alt, that soul killer quite literally killed her soul and she is just a representation of alt made up of bits and bytes, even though she is sentient and many of the emotions remain.

[@SaucyAlfredo]

That's crazy!

[@kouroshasefi5115]

For some reason I have to do hanako and embers but I want panam ending what do u got to do

[@svtsuperveloce8559]

I have to talk hanako first? Or see rogue first? Which she takes me to see whereabouts of adam smasher

[@gregkun1]

Johnny's blind hatred towards corps was on full display here. He was going to sabatageing the meeting regardless of common ground for a win-win deal from the start. He used every card in his hand to fuck V in the end. Depending on your choices he succeeds. Kinda feels like this part was an illusion of choice.

[@brunohommerding3416]

In the Cyberpunk universe theres never a "win win" situation with corps, its always way more in the corps favor than yours, and usually in a very bad way for you that you will only figure out when its too late. Its no wonder the Arasaka ending is called "the devil" ..its because a deal with the devil ALWAYS ends badly for you in one way or another, even if at first you think its fine at the end you always lose more than you could possible gain.

[@gregkun1]

@@brunohommerding3416 That is true but If you are part of the corpo path and involved with counter Intell. You would be very proficient in playing 4D chess when doing with Corpo especially when your live is on the line. Even though you lost your resources at the beginning you should have more contacts other than Jackey. Would of been great if you had a time-sensitive quest to save your contacts from Corpo sanitation teams depending on who you save help you get some bonuses.

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

Johnny could've just been like: "bitch is lying" not sure why he didnt just breakout and say this

[@Bierserker]

Johnny is 100% right though. If you take the deal, you risk what is left of your life to help Saburo retake his company just to be given a choice between absolutely nothing and signing your mind away to Arasaka. Well, you do get a trip to space out of it and they remove Johnny but that is just self interest.

[@RtsFps1]

Before this mission I legitimately thought I was like 15% into the campaign as I'm only level 19, broke and have nothing. Finished the game in 11 hours...that was disappointing

[@PoppyGaming43]

dang you literally did not see a single side quest pop up?

[@gork4035]

You don't need to do side quests for the corporat ending.

[@silverbane8065]

@@PoppyGaming43 thats the route the journalists took (i think lol). probably only did the main questline items (so anything from Takemura, only Panam's first quest to get Hellman, only did Judy's quest to find Evelyn, and only the Voodoo boys to meet Alt.) I remember them moaning on about how the game was 'too short' if you only do those quests, and do not do any of Panam's other quests, none of Johnny's requests, you only get 2 choices at the end. to side with Arasaka, or to flatline yourself and go out on your own terms. (three, if you never go to Embers and just stay away XD)

[@TheTrickyTwix]

You shot your self in the foot buddy. Say what you will about this game but that’s nobody’s fault but your own lmao

[@heroc4456]

i made the sam mistake

[@samreddig8819]

Hey I'm not a mistake

[@laggishsmiles4744]

I'd personally be more afraid of entering a meeting with witnesses, empty means no interruptions, private, safe. There being witnesses would mean that the police have plenty of people to confirm that you "tragically choked" to death during dinner, if they've got the money to clear the place... they've got the money to fill it

[@AndrewWater]

Can someone decipher her odd taping on the bar? I feel like there is meaning behind it.

[@feixy6521]

I have a bug when i beat the story and i go back to earth or be an arasaka shit i still come back and have this mission incomplete please help me

[@InfinityMind1]

Ya mean, when you're a civilized person?

[@DConstructiveCritic]

Im still confused. The 'end' of this game is too vague.

[@Yusuke_Denton]

How so?

[@chloebradlington1965]

Is that because it gives no clear explainasion of the future of V, if so that's the point you are supposed to imagine what Thier future is and that may vary from person to person

[@jerm70]

All of the endings of the game are varying degrees of hopeless/hopefulness. The Arasaka ending is about V selling his soul to the corporation in order to survive which ultimately ends up with Saiboru living once more.

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

im actually more surprised that if you go with the Hanako ending Saburo's engram takes over Yorinobu's body... and becomes the head of Arasaka why didn't Hanako just make herself the head of Arasaka? ...

[@jerm70]

@@therearenoshortcuts9868 Hanako is loyal to family.

[@thecursed01]

are there different versions of this meeting? don't notice anything special

[@carlosg7697]

V's voice actor sounds particularly clumsy in this scene. I thought female V's voice was anoying, but male V is unbearable.

[@pinnacleevolution1634]

Yeah male V voice imo does not fit a corpo V, then you hear the japanese male V and it sounds so much better. They really should've done different voices in this game at least a couple or one for each path.

[@kronoscamron7412]

Sama is a term of respect in japanese ,Hanako did nothing to earn that, I would give it to yorinobu if any at all. at least his heart is in the right place..

[@trelltheguy]

Why we gotta go twice

[@Cunnysmythe]

Ah, you have to be a corpo! Just started a new playthrough with one and planning to do the Arasaka ending, as terrible as it is

[@SayMy_User_Name]

I just did the same thing on my 3rd play through, corpo - arasaka ending, as dark of an ending as it is it’s also awesome at the same time lol

[@Bluesonofman]

There is only one way for it to go

[@itzdcx]

you tried it with Amateur WELL YOU TRIED IT WITH PROS🤣that burn

[@carlosdossantos3022]

I think this only happens if you have a bad relationship with Johnny

[@thegrandmagus]

God, i thought i was the only one who witnessed this. Thanks for uploading

[@wallenreet]

how did you get this?

[@tommym8trix]

This makes me uncomfortable lol

[@bonkyouded]

Johnny was a dickhead in the start, but he always were right about never trusting corpos. Just like in real life they will throw you to the side as soon you serve your purpose.

[@HeyKyle]

Mf like me tryna get with Hanako 🤪🤪

[@alikhugiani1071]

It would be cool if you can romance her

[@hztn]

- Hope there will be a mod for it. Or an developer's optional ending, what is even more cool. Problem that Japanese are traditionally racists, and keep their blood legacy isolated, what is good from ultra-nationalistic opinion, especially for corpo-dinasties. But those Japs where even changed their eye's color to blue, ahahh - so the'y mixed with, or love Europeans already.

[@michaeledmunds7056]

I think Johnny would literally try to off you if you did that 😂