Oneida Supercell Dust Collector - Assembly & Testing For A Small Luthier Workshop

[@gantzm]

I know next to nothing about guitar making. I found this video looking for some details about this specific Oneida system. But I must say your level of detail is amazing along with the density of information presented. You both showed and discussed aspects of this system that I haven't seen in other videos. It was almost eerie how you covered many of my questions about the internal layout and operation of the machine. And the really awesome part is you didn't take 60 minutes to do it. Overall a job very well done, thanks!

[@mikeconroy2651]

@16:45 I had that same concern with mine. I built an extension hood that sticks up about 4" and forward ( closer to you) by about 3". It's held onto the machine with a small caul and some tiny round magnets. If something caught and my hand went forward, my hand would just hit the shroud and knock it off since the magnet hold is designed to do that. It actually collects dust better too!

[@alexis-dylan]

Thanks for the demo, Tom. I’ve been building a shop at home and have been looking at various dust collection systems and was leaning towards the Oneida and this vid just was the little more convincing that I needed.

[@paulsmith9868]

I just watched your video about the Rockler Dust Right. What happened to that and why the switch?

[@alimaleki217]

I was wondering the same thing!

[@MrGtownjake]

From his website..."In the end I decided to keep the Supercell and after using it for a while now in my day to day guitar making work, I simply can’t say enough good things about it. System 1 - The Rockler/Dust Deputy is great too and like I mentioned earlier it’s way better than the system I had in my old workshop, but the Supercell System literally has 10x the suction in a smaller footprint with so many great features."

[@ronbyram7962]

Pairing this with the Rockler fittings is just perfect

[@johnklein4558]

Appreciate the review Tom and if $ wasn’t a big consideration I’d probably go with the Supercell for my small shop. I have a wood flag making business with selling as well other small wood items currently in my garage but about to move almost everything into the basement of my home. So dust collection and getting it right is a big consideration. I like that the Oneida system is filtering in the sub micron size (if I read it right) and that’s great. It’s footprint seems nice also which IS a nice thing in a small size shop. The price tag for myself is (at the moment) a bit steep. I’m thinking of doing what you originally did with the Rockler Dust Right and the cyclone separator. I really don’t need blast gates etc since I’m also a one man show and will do what you did with the quick connections for my machines. It does seem to be a nice piece of equipment. Thank you for the video review.

[@lighthearted2006]

Wow. Tough crowd! Thanks for the video. Curious which quick connects you used.

[@ryderscustomcreations3665]

What the?! I watched your dust right video and now that I just got the dust right I was gonna rewatch your video to see how u hooked up the 2 stage system and now you have a whole different brand?

[@Metal_Vistas]

Take a look at the price difference. These START at $2,699 on Amazon and the Rockler unit was in the low hundreds. So he started out with a beat-up Ford Pinto (shop vac) before moving to a Honda Civic (Rockler), and now he's moved on to an Mercedes sedan (Oneida), because only douche-bags drive Corvettes. ;)

[@coryjenkins622]

Just subscribed. I really enjoy the way describe things. I do have a question for you. A few months ago you published the assembly and review of the dust right system augmented with a super dust deputy. I’m curious if the dust right system performance did not meet your expectations after using it for a few months? If not, what was the main factor in your choice to move to the super cell? Right now I have neither, and would prefer to buy the right tool once. Thanks for all your work.

[@chrisfeil5203]

Take a minute to read his review. Towards the end he explains the reasons why he made the switch. theartoflutherie.com/dust-collection/

[@coryjenkins622]

@@chrisfeil5203 Thank you for that link. I guess I didn't realize that he had a write up. It answered my questions.

[@charlottepapy2695]

Where do we find the weiten Review with the explanation of the switch from the Dust Right System

[@martinortega9279]

Good morning, Tom, I've watched your 2 dust collection systems video's posted Nov & Dec 2019. One was the Oneida and the other was the Rockler system. The 2 are miles apart in Price. I also have a small garage size space and wondering if you could compare efficiency and noise of these 2 systems. The price is not my main concern, but I think for my needs the Oneida might be overkill and the Rockler might be my best choice. Would be nice if Rockler had an all-inclusive package. TY

[@randygust3423]

Question - the cfm is listed at 465. I have a Jet 1.5 hp dust collector which has a cfm rating of about 760. I know the technology is different but with everyone saying how incredible the suction is - is the cfm really only 465??

[@Mr.GucciClass1A]

Thanks man. I have a Rockler right now and was considering changing. Can you comment on the loudness? Btw: you’re voice is very soothing and relaxing, there’s a zen in watching your videos. Others are just soo loud and obnoxious it takes the pleasure of wanting to sit back relax and watch woodworking videos. Lastly: are you related to Patrick Dempsey? You guys could be twins! 😆

[@andyaitken7679]

a pleasure , a no nonsense well spoken overview of the two products , cheers Andy from oz ....

[@MyGarageWorkshop]

Was getting ready to pull the trigger on a Dust Right but this could be a better choice albeit more expensive for future expansion. I like the fact that it’s 240v also.

[@matthewhoheisel4840]

Your really excited about the remote?

[@ZMK-155]

Good video Tom-I was just wondering what happened with DUST WRIGHT that you were bragging about-as I can remember used to be at same spot in your shop 😉

[@TheArtOfLutherie]

That one was great, but it's always fun to get new toys :) The Supercell is a huge upgrade and has performed flawlessly, with enough power for me to one day expand my shop and install hard piping, etc. They are both great systems, you can't go wrong with either one.

[@georgeboyle3967]

Do you have a jointer, tablesaw, or planer? I see all of the positives but seeing how the new system handles these 3 dust creators. Thank you

[@evgenymishenko9103]

Мусорный пакет в баке не перекрывает патрубок датчика загрязнения фильтра...?

[@securityranger773]

Nice review. Undoubtedly, Oneida has always made quality dust extraction equipment. Although, I think you should have mentioned that the cost of this system is about 4x that of the Rockler unit it replaces and that the power requirement is 220v. A remote can be picked up on Rockler for $99. It would have been great to do a comparison. While the Oneida may excel on a multi machine hookup, the Rockler may be enough for a single machine at a time. Also, please let us know if this was a sponsored video or not?

[@9avedon]

Ten times more expensive is more like it. This thing is unreal, disappointingly Vague review.

[@fat_head_Carl]

It's a good product placement video.

[@mururoa7024]

Looks like it was sponsored. This video is featured on the Oneida website. And yeah for the same price you could buy a cyclone that has 1740 CFM instead of 465, and less decibels.

[@dennisboyce813]

Hello, what was the wood for the carved back that you briefly worked on for the demonstration? It looked somewhat like Spanish Cedar. Thanks for the video.

[@mjjeanson]

I thought you were going to show one of the best features when you were working on the guitar back! With its higher suction power you can now make a vacuum vises to hold down your backs and other parts to your bench. Then with an inline vacuum interrupter reposition the work very quickly and get back to carving with in seconds!

[@jimquinty5378]

run it through the over arm router with chips and see how quick it fills and the planer just curious

[@johnfrederickson3082]

You got a new vac one month later? Was the first "Dust Right" too small? Or what happened?

[@JustTony72]

I noticed too. Was hoping someone's already got an answer.

[@johnfrederickson3082]

@@JustTony72 Maybe he is made of money. Maybe he got a free Dust Right one month and a Supercell the next. Must be nice to pick the free stuff you use!

[@billybastar4022]

Great review. So why did you change from the Rockler system?

[@nickbarron614]

I would love to know this as well, as I am about to install and reconfigure my small shop Dust collection and was planning on using your previous Dust Right System.

[@MixingGBP]

A sponsored video? Perhaps he got it for free. I'd dump my pickup and drive a Bentley if they gave me one, lol.

[@coppertune9124]

How long does the 14 gallon container last until it's filled, normally.

[@TheArtOfLutherie]

Totally depends on what I am working on. Usually it's my planer that that fills it up faster. But even when I use it all day it takes me hours to fill it. It has a bag though , and is simple to empty and change. A smaller container is better because a larger bag of sawdust is super heavy. This size seems to be a perfect balance - for me anyway.

[@matthewhoheisel4840]

Nice sanding example, you didn’t have a #2 pencil you could use lol.

[@raytristani]

Well worth the cost

[@theobgyn6787]

He doesn't need to give a reason... its a 2.4k system vs the old combined system about 650.00 for everything. I'd expect everything to be 100% better.

[@bobbg9041]

Runs off 120 volts ac. 5 hp. ?

[@mjjeanson]

No only 220 Volts.

[@terencenewlin5265]

Only 17 amps. Shop vac technology.

[@GregsWorkshopOregon]

Some day I want my channel to get to the point where I post a review of something I bought and shortly thereafter post a review of something better that I got for free 😂

[@olafbigandglad]

"This one time in band clamp..."

[@Simonfrios]

would like to know if this youtuber received this unit for free - - or is paid to make this video. This should be a standard disclosure at the start of any product review. Forgive me if this was stated somewhere in the video.

[@howardbessen4246]

Absolutely agree. Is this an ad or an unbiased review?

[@DavidAKupka]

Completely agree. I liked his video of the Dust Right and it opened my eyes to the importance of dust collection. I ended up going with a Jet 1 1/2 horse. After watching this I thought I made the wrong choice. And after watching the entire video my impression is completely different. It was obviously given to him , it is way over priced for a typical garage shop. And there wasn't any real comparison to justify the HUGE price difference. Or the mention of requiring 220 V. Shady , Shady , Shady . Unsubscribing

[@bs838]

Great video, I have been strongly considering the Supercell for my shop and I am so glad to get to hear and see one in action. I know you've only had it for a few days but what are your thoughts thus far? First of all, I assume you paid for this and this isn't sponsored by Oneida? Second, how is the noise? - it sounds pretty much like a shop vac, which is a bit of a concern for me but I could get used to it for all the other pros it seems to have. Finally had you considered any other systems (for me its between this and the mini-gorilla and/or the V-3000) and if so what was the reason you went with the Supercell over the others? Thanks! You've got a new subscriber!

[@seanhenry744]

What did you end up going with?

[@bs838]

@@seanhenry744 I got a Mini Gorilla. Couldn't justify twice the price for the Supercell. The Mini Gorilla is great, kinda loud but its a fairly low pitch. Moves a ton of air. Until I get a better shop it will do!

[@toddz8579]

I too wondered about the Supercell vs. the other Oneida DC's, especially as far as the CFM ratings were concerned, until I saw the static pressure (WC) ratings. Comparing the 220V version of the Mini Gorilla to the Supercell, the former is rated for 583 cfm vs. 465 cfm - but! The WC rating for the former is 9" WC, while the Supercell is rated at 97.8" WC. That's ten times the suction power, which is a huge deal if you're running smaller-diameter hose to your power equipment. As far as the Supercell vs. the other DC's like the V-System with the latter's much higher CFM rating, the way it was explained is that the Supercell is ideal for a small one-person shop where one piece of equipment is used at a time, while the V-System is better for larger commercial shops where two or more employees may be using separate pieces of equipment at the same time. The V-System would do a better job of drawing dust simultaneously from those two or more locations, with the downsides of a larger footprint and price tag. Hope that helps.

[@allhatnocattlews]

Wow...no reason given for replacing the Rockler. Guess these guys pay better....

[@mururoa7024]

I like how compact it is, but at twice the price of a full fledged pre-assembled cyclone dust extractor with more features and capacity it's way too expensive ($2,400!! twice my Laguna CFlux1). This unit has a max CFM of 465 (despite it's 5HP!), while for the exact same price you could buy a cyclone that has 1740CFM! With such a low flow rate I would not recommend this unit for high chip volume machinery like jointers or planers. Not to mention its 97" WC which is about the same as a Festool shopvac, except the festool costs half the price even if you include a cyclone separator (from Oneida!), tops out at 70 DBA and draws less current. My point is, whatever your specific application is, there's a better cost effective dust collector on the market.

[@akivaweil5066]

It is like a mega shop vac because of the small motors. From my research on their website it seems to be more useful for heavier debris such as concrete dust.

[@mururoa7024]

@@akivaweil5066 Festool CTL 👍

[@lenpiazza8493]

@@akivaweil5066 wrong

[@akivaweil5066]

@@lenpiazza8493 Much higher static pressure 🤪

[@hheess33]

The links aren’t working! I want to buy the supercell.

[@garradmiller5025]

If you can leave a youtube comment you can google search.

[@bobbg9041]

Ouch, the price is 4 times what I paid nice but pricey.

[@63Ducati1]

Like other commenters, I want to know what happened to the Rockler unit that you raved about. No mention of it at all. Disappointing and causes suspicion. I'm glad I didn't subscribe when I thought about it while watching the Rockler installation video. Could your disappointment in the Rockler be because of the ridiculously circuitous path of the flex hose from the air pump to the filter, in addition to 100% corrugated hose to the machines. The cheapest Supercell is $2500, plus the expense of installing 240VAC outlets to run it. I'm not going to finish the rest of the video so don't know if you said anything about this information. Thumbs down.

[@EMTdrummer]

Yeah, what happened to the Dust Right??? You seemed to really like it... this a freebie and you owe an advertisement? C'mon fess up...

[@tcbridges]

That thing is almost $3,000 to rich for my small shop

[@andreipopa6956]

Terrible review ....... not one scientific proof of the suction ..... it feels like it’s sucking it’s not cfm rating or static pressure rating....... plus that thing is super loud...... Also you forgot to mention is 2300$ ..... lol....... you can get a Laguna dust collector for 1200 that runs miles around this....... Again terrible sponsored biased review......

[@EMTdrummer]

OK, watched the whole video. You seem like a nice guy but have lost all credibility with me... wish you well but this type of channel is not for me.

[@HalProctor]

2500 DOLLARS!!!!

[@clarencefonseca9598]

You talk to much then showing how it works

[@Maverick4841]

$2700 dollars.........i'm out.

[@charlottepapy2695]

Just bécasse hé won’t address the question; I think the others r right; hés sponsored and doesnt want to fess up. Too Bad.