OnePlus cloned the iPad... - OnePlus Pad

[@Naermarth]

The top/bottom/left/right debate is pretty easy to solve. The side with the screen is the top and the side with the camera is the bottom :)

[@Summersault666]

"und" ? Curb your germaness!

[@Volker_A4]

ja

[@Naermarth]

@@Summersault666 ah shit, right, thanks! I edited it :)

[@MrTheinfoman]

Oneplus tablet has a many criticism one Louis Rossman made a video of one plus add worst ant repair feature when they encrypted they battery on bms chip so no one but one plus can fix it meaning you have a evil bms in your tablet unless you live in India where the government forced one plus to give third party repairs the right to repair products.

[@SimonBauer7]

​@@Summersault666 just like in ich_iel SPRICH

[@ASEM-1123]

Fun fact, currently the only iPad that uses the 4:3 aspect ratio is the 12.9" iPad Pro and the iPad 9. The other models have switched to an A4 (close to 7:5) ratio.

[@FuzmintYT]

is it all gen ipad pros or

[@steambunie]

Which is great because the major of the world uses A4 as a standard

[@alyx6427]

@@FuzmintYT12.9 was always 4:3, they kept the screen the same size with the 2018 revamp, whereas the 11” had the screen expanded to match the casing, and the mini was like the 11” i think. ALL ipads with a home button are 4:3 tho

[@FuzmintYT]

@@alyx6427 i’ve already figured that out not too long ago

[@cosmic7234]

nerd alert

[@linuxsbc]

It's great that Labs testing is being integrated into most LMG videos, even non-reviews like this. They add much more credibility.

[@jelkk0349]

Only thing missing was a comparison to other tablets, but here's hoping once they test more they'll be adding them into reviews

[@PrimePixelYoutube]

But sometimes they dont take a closer look at the devices and their software, and therefore sometimes they miss features that some people may find really useful.

[@alyx6427]

@@PrimePixelKZbin this is a shortcircuit unboxing tho lol not a review

[@PrimePixelYoutube]

@Alyx On some videos they kinda have their spin on it. And some other reviewers may state it in their unboxing though. Also they kinda use it for a couple of days on certain devices b4 the actual video. I guess you could argue that their schedule is pretty busy anyways.

[@BubbaOfTheZew]

I think it’s actually their inventory policy that every item received at LMG goes to labs and is tested before it is featured or used in any channel or video.

[@BrandonGiesing]

The way I can tell if they intend it to be a horizontal or vertical tablet, look at the boot logo when turning it on. They usually set that to what the "default" screen orientation is.

[@noc44]

Yesss.... until they put auto-rotation function into the boot logo.

[@22oreos]

@@noc44 yeah but who does that

[@noc44]

@@22oreos that's also what i'm curious to find

[@Lyfhaxx]

@@22oreos apple

[@alec3759]

@@noc44 yeah my iPad Pro 2022 has the auto rotate on the start up logo

[@fus-ro-dah]

The "extra RAM" is probably just a swap file (or page file in Windows lingo). Perfectly normal IMO

[@niveZz-]

or zram

[@HxHStudios]

Yeah I believe so... I'm pretty tired of them roasting it every video, it really isn't that bad for the storage.

[@username65585]

Not very common on Android

[@TheBurritoLord]

@@username65585 My one plus 7 pro from like 2019 says it does swap for extended ram

[@insaneduck]

@@HxHStudios it is fine. Problem is they are marking it as “ram” when it isn’t. A normal user might confuse it with actual ram when it is just swap. Lot of devices use swap. Imagine windows laptops advertising 48GB ram (16GB ram and 32GB swap/page file)

[@quincyfreeman2901]

Just a quick note: $150 is not anywhere near what the Magic Keyboard is ($300)… So an all in package is under $750, vs over $1,000 for a 64gb iPad Air, Magic Keyboard, and pencil, or over $1,200 with iPad Pro.

[@GamerCheatsForAll]

@David Gray L

[@Thewaterspirit57]

Yet you’ll get a quality product, unlike this cheap copycat.

[@Justafacebutscaryhahaheheh]

One plus pad is 500 dollars not 600

[@quincyfreeman2901]

@@Justafacebutscaryhahaheheh never said it was? The assumption was to compare bundles: tablet, keyboard case, and pencil/stylus.

[@NiceEyeballs]

​@@Thewaterspirit57 Apple fanboy spotted

[@Anaerin]

The "Annular Touch Sensor" means it's all the way around the stylo (look at "Annular Ring Nails"), that way you don't have to hold it with a specific "side" up.

[@fbelard]

Gotta keep Lyno out of the labs.

[@OrganicGreens]

The color on that selfie camera is insane. The audio was very good too

[@juliancumming6893]

Any alternative to Apple or Samsung in North America will be very nice to have

[@CodeVenomSnakes]

Yes but nobody will buy it. You know everyone getting Apple tablet the ipad.

[@duckmasterflex]

Well I was hoping for an alternative that’s not copy and paste of the others

[@yellowcard8100]

@@CodeVenomSnakes I avoid apple like the plague. So any alternatives is a welcome.

[@Volker_A4]

​@@CodeVenomSnakes galaxy tab is pretty popular for art rn.

[@oddbutfair]

Selection and verity is nice: but you labeled names specifically. implying negative connotation to both companies. When I’m reality, you don’t know what you are talking about. My iPad Air provides me the right professional tolls for my creative work. And Samsung offers lovely display for my movies. Why are you so negative? How about you say this grumpy pants. “I like having a verity of products to choose from”. See how I didn’t imply any particular company was bad.

[@dizuko_]

Their apple counter got me going crazy... sounds like a switch notification every time 🤣🤣

[@felixbelanger2659]

I'm surprised there's not more comments about that, it was driving me up the walls

[@MagnonEntertain]

Ive just looked around like crazy to find the source of that noise. JESUS

[@nonamebrand1633]

I turned it into a game where I tried to guess what it would be by the end of the vid. Had way too much fun w/ that lol

[@uykudurumu]

That was so annoying

[@nestorisaacestoque5989]

I've used my Samsung Tab S7 (2020) as a replacement for a laptop for years now since my laptop broke in the middle of the pandemic and working at home. They kept updating it and the experience just got better and better. So yeah, there have been at least 1 good Android tablet since 2020 on my experience.

[@Anaghish]

While this was a good overview of the tablet, I would've loved to see some comparisons with the Galaxy tab line as well, which is its main competitor in the Android space.

[@kae9783]

lol exactly

[@ayasolaris4971]

Yeah at 17:28 they tell us we should figure out outselves if its a good buy or not.

[@MobikSaysStuff]

@@ayasolaris4971 It's not a review, just an unboxing and overview.

[@cr082080]

And all he did was compare every single thing to Apple like as if Apple invented a white and grey background.

[@archiox0628]

Something that's under-reported on reviews is how consistently amazing speakers are on Oneplus devices, especially since the first phones that supported stereo. I guess it's still true with their first tablet

[@SirVer51]

How recently are we talking? My last OnePlus was the 6, and that thing's speaker was garbage. And I knew it would be when I bought it, because every device they'd released prior to that also had crappy speakers - they even had a reputation for it amongst reviewers. I guess they've improved since then?

[@Fusion_X]

@@SirVer51 ​ I have and I am still using OnePlus 7T which has good speakers, that was one of my main reasons why I choose to get it, and it uses a separate second top stereo speaker instead of the earpiece, and I'm coming from HTC One as my previous phone. In my opinion, OnePlus 7T is the best (and reasonably priced) phone that OnePlus made just before Carl Pei left the company. The next phones they made were Overpriced and with bad buggy software. But now they are trying to make a comeback again.

[@oror3751]

​@@SirVer51 9 pro and 8 got amazing speakers 5,6 and 7 speakers are garbage

[@alyx6427]

wasn’t it like mono till the 6 or so? also yes but apple mobile devices always have exceptional speakers like almost better than bluetooth speakers at some point

[@mariocuric6690]

Dude sees a oval shape and screams APPLEEEEE

[@angycf98]

I think the aspect ratio is to match A-sized paper. A-sized paper has a 1:sqrt(2) aspect ratio, 7:5 approximates that (root 2 divided by 1 = 1.414... , 7/5 = 1.4).

[@AnthonyM-wg3fg]

The OnePlus Pad is suprisringly good if you don't want to get an Apple tablet. It's something I would actually consider if I used tablets.

[@Bralkor]

Sadly the screen is terrible. S galaxy tabs are still the ones to get if you want a premium android tablet. I'll take 120hz oled over 144hz bad LCD any day. And I've switched my phone from Samsung to oneplus cause of how terrible Samsung is.

[@Inc.Co.]

@@Bralkor Wouldn't say it's terrible. But yes, its an LCD. OLED is almost always a better option.

[@skiks1853]

OLED screens just turn into a point of failure overtime

[@snowwsquire]

@@BralkorGet a Lenovo Tab P11 Gen 2, 120HZ 1440p class OLED. I have one and its great

[@snowwsquire]

@@skiks1853 My old oneplus 3 (2016) has an oled, and its still usable, with only some burn in on the notification bar, which has been resolved in newer versions of android

[@rey11able]

I had a 10th gen iPad kzbin.infoUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA . Felt it getting pretty slow at times even after doing a reset. So I am using that as a tablet for my 5 year old son and got this 9th gen version. MUCH faster, a little slimmer, smaller bezels, all around a leap forward. Plus, for the price that’s about $130-$150 cheaper than a current new model this is a nice deal. I look forward to the M-series CPUs coming into iPads which will really help future proof these tablets better but these latest CPUs are pretty strong and should do better to last several years with no compromises.

[@Miniclash]

I would watch anything hosted by Riley. I don't even skip through sponsor things when he's doing them.

[@johnbergmann2896]

Riley is great on camera. Maybe their best.

[@GargantuanBreadfruit]

To each their own. I found his style really unfocused and distracting. Was looking for a smoother rundown of the device. Nothing against him though.

[@Miniclash]

@@GargantuanBreadfruit I totally get it. That's exactly what I really like about his style, and yes, it is different and might not be for you. I watch a lot of news oriented Late Night shows, and I love TechLinked for the similar approach on news delivery for example.

[@lilslav4504]

i found it so annoying how many times he compared it to ipad, he kept saying it, it got me frustrated xD

[@andreyfigueroni3296]

@@lilslav4504 Same here, and tho I really like him, this review felt a little short because of that. I know what an iPad is...

[@BrilliantBenGaming]

I dig these tablet competitors but the exclusivity of Pro Create continues to sell a lot of iPads

[@Thezftw]

That and all the other Apple exclusive apps...

[@ryanignites5923]

100% why I bought my iPad Pro. Creative apps are unparalleled on Apple devices.

[@MegaLokopo]

Pretty sure its just the apple logo. Any software on an ipad has a better alternative on windows. Surface tablets are the best, you get a touch screen and a real unrestricted operating system.

[@ebiooo]

​​​@@MegaLokopo surface go 3 is $400 but it doesn't have great performance and a worse stylus than an apple pencil. Sure, there are many better software alternatives on windows, but those ain't gonna run well on the cheapest surface. Meanwhile ipad 9s are available at only $329 ($429 plus the pencil) and they run procreate and other productivity apps pretty well

[@RusticRonnie]

@@ryanignites5923when it comes to the tablet space yeah, but on desktop apple is nothing anymore (except video editing) I’ve watched as the studio I work at went from apple, to windows for animation then modeling and rigging and lastly texturing. Weight painters still are ~50% apple but most of them want to move to faster Riggs. Professional artists don’t use apple anymore, I watch them be almost completely phased out over the last 5 years.

[@benjaminmiddaugh2729]

A lot of Chinese tablets have the landscape orientation as the default, while most tablets intended for the Western market default to portrait orientation. Since OnePlus is a Chinese-owned company, that might have something to do with the choice of orientation.

[@SiimKuusik]

RIley is a treat and he really knows his Apple tablets.

[@SiimKuusik]

wait, I meant his Apple copycat tablets.

[@BlacklistBill]

7:5 aspect ratio is genius. Still easy to hold as 4:3 but with a little more widescreen-edness/black bar buster. Better than an impossible to hold 16:9 or 16:10 mess.

[@yesterdaystech86]

I agree that its better for some content and worse for others. But how is 16:10 difficult to hold? Had no problems when I tested out the tab s8

[@jbc17c]

​@Yesterday's Tech Yeah I have a Tab S8+ and have had no issues with it. Not sure how aspect ratio has any effect on how hard it is to hold 🤔

[@peterparker-zy9oe]

@@yesterdaystech86 depends on your hand size I guess

[@yesterdaystech86]

@@peterparker-zy9oe I have small hands but holding 11 inch tablet is the same be it 16:10 or 4:3 I dont feel difference between my ipad and tab s8

[@BlacklistBill]

@@jbc17c The "hard to hold" comment was addressing the large moment that you create with a longer device when you hold it in portrait. The taller the device, the more "torque" you put on the hand that is holding it since there is weight that extends further away from the. Makes it more unwieldily compared to a device that is more square.

[@peterdueland4043]

I'm convinced Riley is the best hire LTT has ever made. He's such a charismatic and funny person.

[@willmauney9609]

He was always my favorite NCIX presenter and I was a little bummed when they were shutting down, until I heard LTT was picking him up. Easily one of my favorites in the LTT cast.

[@bluecraney1]

i argue and present anthony

[@SuperNesus]

Riley is the bees knees. Great attention, easy going hot takes, great voice and looks. But... Dan is giving him competition in product reviews!

[@lamefart]

He has biases in his reviews. I'll take Anthony and Dan instead.

[@amnrslhn6035]

Charismatic = Good Looking.

[@MeruXYZ]

Honestly, at that price point, it's not a bad set-up at all. You're not missing many iPad exclusive apps that you can't get on Android, and also you can game properly on this thing. I didn't know that when I bought my iPad, but it's literally just been off for months. (M1 Pro)

[@Thewaterspirit57]

There’s literally tons of apps that are better on iPad. Plus you won’t have it crash that often, since Android tablets have been plagued with that since forever.

[@uhm175]

I have my Oneplus, using it for 2 days now, & have tried to play & use apps regularly, with no issues or problems at all, no crashes either If we compare it to some of those newer ipad models, the oneplus pad makes them looks like a joke with this price, i desperately needed a new tablet since my ipad pro 1st gen was beat up, then decided to go for the Oneplus, probably the best thing i've ever done this year, i'm never looking back after this or even buying Apple products again

[@MarcSGA]

Isn’t the “extra ram” thing just a page file?

[@640kareenough6]

Had the same thought, were really just rebranding old tech now.

[@AndiKola]

It is. They're "rebranding" it because storage this days is much faster then hdd back in the day. Also they say that it comes from storage, so. Ho harm no foul. And it doesn't wear out storage to any noticeable level.

[@genericscottishchannel1603]

it always will be

[@ecodev15]

8:13 they did, Samsung GALAXY Tab2 10.1" did exactly that. its the same for alot of samsung tablets (but they're usually quite close together like an iphone 6-type style)

[@EdgyShooter]

Okay, so usually I'd point out that Apple got a lot of its features from Android and that they essentially swap features... However, that was definitely as close to Apple's font as possible and that case was clearly supposed to look like the Apple equivalent while not actually being able to do the same functions.

[@jayman94fly]

Eh They can totally get away with it though

[@cesarvillalobos1692]

The reason it's so similar to the iPad is that they're both roots of the Abs(Sqrt(±1)) Pad

[@doctordothraki4378]

From 2014 to 2022, they would evolve in different directions. The iPad started multiplying Pad by i to reduce how many mathematical symbols are shown, while OnePlus adds Pad to One to get "plus" as a word that conveys positive emotion 😂

[@antanis]

As for the page file debate, I generally would rather just have more ram. Kind of a dumb contribution, but 16 in a full size tablet shouldn't be that odd. I think having it as an option is definitely nice, assuming the storage is fast. It will somewhat degrade storage life span, but it's not going to be significant for the vast majority of users. They just don't have the read/write cycles for it to matter, unless they used truly awful storage.

[@mckendrick7672]

I mean, no shit, everyone would rather just have more RAM, but you get what you pay for. Given how long it took for (OEM) PCs and Laptops to go from 8GB RAM standard to 16GB, it really is too much to expect 16GB RAM in a tablet at this price.

[@aBeerFromHere7994]

4:45 The "floating" is basically 2 hinges. 1 visible stong and 1 small hidden like in the Galaxy Fold. The hidden hinge can be cheaply rebuilt by using a thin piece of aluminum and 2 magnets, on each side.

[@yo.adrian]

As Riley was showing the tablet, I looked at it and thought that it looked small compared to my Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra. Then I remembered the S8 Ultra's screen is almost 15 inches big.

[@kenbee1957]

I remember the first time I saw the 12" inch iPad. I thought it was ridiculously big, couldn't even function as a tablet. Saw it on two different occasions; when a friend first bought one and once on a long train ride (on that second occasion, I couldn't believe it was an actual Apple product, it was so big) When I failed to buy the Tab S8 Ultra (completely failed to get one at a price I could afford, even with deals) I went and bought a 12 inch iPad Pro. Been using that a year now, and the size no longer registers as oversized to me, the whole time still checking periodically for an S8 Ultra deal to come along. My friends still do a double take on seeing it though I imagine if I had the Ultra this whole time, 12 inches on the largest iPad would seem quite small Lol

[@Ian-ty6zh]

yes that tablet is really big when I tried it on their store haha its like im holding a laptop

[@sonofage]

@@kenbee1957 i use the s8 plus tablet and it's just nice for me, but with the ultra, it looks super small with mine but I think i'm fine with that, easier to carry around when i'm on the go.

[@Macusercom]

Most of the time "RAM Plus" actually doesn't use the storage but uses zRAM (compressing the RAM). At least that's the case for Samsung phones. Their RAM plus only increases zRAM but there is no storage swap to be found

[@bandito241]

Mine one plus phone uses swap but I don’t know about this one.

[@mattattack03]

so he forgot that the Galaxy Tabs exist...........

[@tacticalsanti5438]

Bro they're so expensive, you might as well get an iPad

[@Greed_Of_Men]

I think they should find someone who actually uses tablets to do this kind of unboxings

[@rustler08]

@Binuk Vidana But that doesn't matter when it's clear they can't speak to the target audience. It's like going from Brandon to what's-his-face for cameras: it's kind of a joke and it's pretty obvious the difference of someone that knows their stuff versus one that's just good at talking.

[@Set_Get]

This aspect ratio and 11.6 size is ideal for reading textbook PDFs on the go. If my 12.4 samsung fails soon, I will go for this aspect ratio. good move by OnePlus to offer a unique tablet.

[@GAMERGEBITER]

I think its great for media consumption, since the resolution is very high, 144Hz, good speakers.

[@ishansrivastava674]

so glad to see the labs data roll into all the channel videos, remember the time Linus first announced it and we all thought it was gonna be verry long before it becomes a part of each vid

[@fluffyfloof9267]

What happened to the screen recording? Did you choose slightly less favourable settings, or is this all it's capable of?

[@markgutierez9922]

It can do 4k 30 From the rear. The front is stuck at 720p.

[@fluffyfloof9267]

@@markgutierez9922 Unless you're using a mirror, you're not using the cameras for screen recording. ;) (edit: should i say screen capture?)

[@xondarium7691]

yeah the screen recording does look like shit what happened whit that

[@markgutierez9922]

@@fluffyfloof9267 I see I miss read the question. It looks like 720p@30fps with a bit rate sample of 2-4 mbs. By comparison the OP11 is capable of 2k@60fps . It could be a hardware limitations of the Dimensity 9000 or an oversight by the labs team.

[@JaY_PLaY_YT]

Man, my tab s7 is by far the best tablet I've used. aspect ratio nearly perfect for media consumption, Making it a second screen on my windows laptop and PC, came with the stylus, great speakers that can fill a room, all the advantages of android without trying to copy another company, etc. Very underrated device for school, work, and leisure activities.

[@d20207]

Ive got the s7 plus and Im still not convinced about its aspect ratio. I mostly use it to take notes and always have to use it in landscape mode. In portrait mode, the experience is not the best.

[@justitgstuff5284]

It actually seems crazy good for the price. I paid nearly double for my 11inch iPad Pro, Apple Pencil and case last year (and that's with a student discount), and this looks comparable or better in a lot of ways. If this was an option at the beginning of the fall semester last year, I probably would've bought this instead.

[@WalnutWarrior7]

Well. Considering how even the base 400€ ipad has a rather powerful chip and support for Apple Pencil it seems an uphill battle for anyone to realistically compete. Maybe it's too early to judge, but nothing here seems that interesting... Especially that (I'm assuming) self-designed processor. But we'll see once the Benchmarks drop

[@justitgstuff5284]

@@WalnutWarrior7 It's worth noting that the base iPad only supports the first gen pencil, which doesn't have wireless charging or magnetic attachment so it's more of an inconvenience to use, especially on the go. I think the processor is good enough on both of those tablets that it doesn't really matter for most users, and there are higher end tablets on both sides for professional use. Spec-wise the OnePlus tablet has a much better screen (higher refresh also means more responsive for drawing), double the memory, presumably better speakers and I'm assuming cheaper storage upgrades. If Apple kept the base iPad at the $330 price point, it would be more competitive and interesting. The current gen iPad seems kinda stupid compared to getting the iPad Air or saving money and getting a cheaper android tablet with similar enough specs.

[@Thewaterspirit57]

It’s literally worse than an iPad. The damn thing has USB-C but is at 2.0 speeds, and some crappy cameras. And the thing only has two storage options with no card slot.

[@justitgstuff5284]

@@Thewaterspirit57 You basically just described the comparable iPad 10th gen. Even having those issues makes it on par with the iPad. This thing isn't competing with the iPad Pro and it's not a professional tablet. The cameras are good enough for video calls. The USB speeds are good enough for basic file transfers. The storage is enough for most people because they're not buying a tablet to take 8k pictures all day. No microSD kinda sucks but no iPad has ever had one so again, it's not really any worse than what you're comparing it to.

[@Thewaterspirit57]

@@justitgstuff5284 Literallt any other android device has USB 3.0 speeds or above, and have the same specs as the thing. It’s worse than the iPad in general, cuz android on tablet still sucks. Besides the iPad 10 isn’t for professionals either, just something that has easily replicable parts.

[@cosmofighter]

The OnePlus Pad is the definition of: If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

[@oida10000]

I make this simple: the buttom side normally has the USB port and is opposite of the camera. If there is one on the left/right side and the camera is really centered go with the shorter one.

[@nscian2]

The tablet itself is honestly great, I just think the accessories are over priced. I would still recommend a Chromebook Duet 5 if you're not looking to game though.

[@DrazenKlisuric]

It hink that dock is standard AOSP feature now. You can force all Android phones to have that dock when connected to external display by changing DPI.

[@tonn333]

It would have been better to have side by side comparison between the iPad and this. Humans are quite bad at this kind of comparison from memory.

[@vulvex392]

The whole point of this being a good android tablet is that most people who like a simple UI or "apple feel" will be easy to switch to it, and all the "non-apple" people still get all the benefits of its being android. A tablet that is familiar to both sides

[@niewall]

I really like the Samsung Tab S series. They can easily rival iPads in my opinion. And it feels like a seperat device too. The OS is recognisable Android and not a IOS clone.

[@bugsygoo]

I was over Apple a few years ago so when my son needed a tablet, I bought him the top Samsung tablet. A year later I bought a Lenovo tablet to replace my old iPad pro. I was really impressed with them, especially the Lenovo given the price. Then the Samsung failed after 18 months and the Lenovo after three. I've bought a dozen ipads for our family since they first came out. Never had a problem. In fact, I only just stopped using the original iPad to play music through my stereo.

[@iowawalker]

@@bugsygoo my Samsung Galaxy Tab3 from 2013 still works. Either you were unlucky or you broke it yourself.

[@bugsygoo]

@@iowawalker Given that I received a full refund, I guess you now know the answer.

[@iowawalker]

It does, and it has most of the software counterparts. The only thing lacking is a good video editor for Android. There's just two groups of people who use tablets, one is professionals, other is casual users. First ones don't want to leave the comfort zone of Apple software, second ones don't care but are told everywhere to get an iPad.

[@bugsygoo]

@@iowawalker You're right, they are told everywhere to buy an ipad. Maybe the people who test these things are on to something. I think they are. I think the ipad is a better product. It's not necessarily the hardware but the software, integration and user experience is way better than Android. No, I'm not an Apple fan boy. But having gone back to Apple recently with my phone and tablet, I think it's a much better product. But it should be for the price they charge.

[@nics9840]

12:01 Im sorry what!? 128GB with nearly half the storage taken up out of the box. that's actually ridiculous, my phone has used 74gb of storage over 2 years. WTF.

[@StrangelyIronic]

Swap storage (the concept of 8+4gb of ram) is iffy on an SSD. Odds are it would be used so little that it's fine, but at the same time, I would never make a swap partition on an install that uses a SSD. 8GB should be more than enough memory, the battery would probably be degraded before the SSD goes bad due to swap space usage...maybe, we don't really have concrete numbers on either really. Windows uses a page file instead of swap, but it's basically the same concept. I have 32gb of ram, but even with the 16gb I have on my budget system I've put together from my last machine with some tweaks Windows is rarely going to ever access the page file, so I leave it alone.

[@haleypotter417]

All I want is a large 4:3 android tablet with an sd card slot so I can read all my comics and digital magazines

[@extreme8808]

More than two Apples per minute - nice! 🤣

[@m7md95]

Its easy to know which way is up, just restart the tablet and see where the logo facings when start loading on

[@IntegrityRonin]

Can't believe he didn't ever brought up "Samsung" specifically the latest best tablet flagship they have, the Samsung Tab S8 Ultra or the Tab S8+

[@swagger6166]

Coz he is toxic isheep who hates anything that can beat crapple

[@EnterSpacebar]

Most of these Oneplus knockoff iPad videos are sponsored. Almost all of them pretend like the Galaxy Tab series does not exist.

[@michaelryan1767]

Considering how many things Apple have copied from Android (like the notification shade was in Androids first release in 2008, whereas Apple didn't add it to iOS until 2011), I have zero issues with any company copying Apple.

[@forgottencameras]

You're welcome Riley Did LTT check out the Yoga Tab 11 and 13? My so uses it for drawing (with the Lenovo stylus) and as a second display and it is pretty fantastic.

[@Airbag888]

No mention of how multi window / split screen is handled is a missed opportunity at this resolution

[@silk1435]

Just love the editors putting an "Apple" counter on the screen

[@robvoicesthings]

"Do people just not care that companies copy Apple's UI and stuff?" Well considering Apple pretty much made their whole living off other people's work (Xerox, Creative, Nokia, Kodak, Motorola, VirnetX, etc.) I think things looking similar is the least worrisome. As much as it pains me to say that Apple currently holds the tablet market, considering this is OnePlus' first go of doing a tablet, and most prices for DECENT tablets (excluding Apple) is upwards of 600, I'm happy to see a bit of competition. I'm hoping this will shake things up and convince others to start making some more DECENT budget friendly tablets for people. (Why yes I am still salty about the Galaxy Tab A7 Lite I got for free that I barely use because it runs like a brick.)

[@dr.fitprofessor1970]

Frankly, I don't really see how this looks like an iPad. In addition, oneplus has always used oxygen OS on their phones and other devices and this tablet is no exception. I have used several of their phones in the past and recently just purchased the OnePlus 11. Truthfully, I feel the 11 is an amazing phone and probably the best device they've ever designed. I definitely think I'm going to be picking this pad up.

[@Elinzar]

The scratches where because it was tested in labs So that might be why it doesn't come with a peel Riley, Labs took em

[@JasonZakrajsek]

Yeah I’m kinda sick of Labs getting to things before Short Circuit. This was supposed to be an unboxing/first impressions channel, and Labs having the device first takes away from that.

[@MrCrucifer]

I love the sound effects for things like the "Apple Counter" and the little Arrow pop up

[@snowdog03]

Nintendo Switch notice.

[@Gilraen15]

This is the tablet for someone who only likes Android and wants a tablet like an iPad, lol :D It looks really nice... Thanks for the great, funny review Riley!!!

[@StarkRG]

Yep, that's me. I get a feeling of cyberclaustrophobia when I use iOS. Samsung is similar but less.

[@beelzzebub]

Bell is 100% wrong - the ability to turn on/off a 4GB swap on a fast SSD in emergencies could be a God send for those who need it. Yes, don't leave it on 24/7 - but it's a great option that you just don't see much outside of desktop linux.

[@birdwalkinman]

really didn't need the "apple" counter with the annoying chime. of course apple is going to be mentioned alot, they ARE the tablet market. redundant

[@QuantaSolace]

The product image for the keyboard gives the impression that it’s a copy of Apple’s until you see otherwise.

[@clementctx6588]

I LOVE THE NEW BACKGROUND, even if the old one was very good

[@vaultboy1419]

4:23 nice how you held the keyboard to the table so the connector disconnected :)

[@paulkhanna1]

It’s a surprisingly realistic facsimile of an iPad. That’s an accomplishment. As an iPad user, I would feel comfortable switching to the Oneplus if I had to, and if that was their goal, they did it.

[@babeljeffu6535]

3:46 Your Bill Burr impression is on point!!

[@michaelfedorsha8147]

I'm really impressed by this tablet... Especially for only being $479!

[@uhm175]

I got mine for 300 usd

[@Eazon_]

10:45 Yea actually if its deemed a good design i couldnt care less if it gets copied. Innovation is important yes but if going the safe route lands a good product i'm fine with it

[@uranium_donut]

Sad that they didn't go into the screen controversy and measure frame times in scrolling or any latency measurements of the screen. As far as I heard this is a horribly slow display, unreadable while scrolling and has extreme frame time issues while scrolling

[@jomeyqmalone]

Same. I'm worried that as Labs becomes a bigger part of LTT they're going to get so hung up on comparing numbers that they completely miss glaring issues like this, if it happens to be some metric they're not specifically looking for

[@creativepicnl]

I got one and it’s pretty great. I often compare it with my 2018 iPad Pro 12”. The iPad clearly has the upper hand with the A12 chip when it comes to editing. I’m editing with an external ssd and the iPad is very smooth. With this tablet I need to use proxy files in order to edit 4K but it’s fine for my use case. It’s meant to be a leisure device with the option to edit social media content. It’s a beautiful display and the keyboard is so much nicer than the first iPad folio. It’s compact and it has a trackpad. I passed on the bulky 2nd iPad keyboard since I can’t use it on my lap. Oneplus did it right with their tablet keyboard. It charges ridiculously fast for a tablet and I really enjoy editing photos and videos on it.

[@Trillykins]

Gawd, no hate to Reiley.. Riley? Railai... I can't spell names. No hate to moustache man here, but I cannot stand how everything gets compared to Apple. Oh, rounded corners? They're trying to be apple. A semi-transparent background? Apple, def. A floating dock? Oh, that's totally apple, no doubt. Like, just the most mundane, seen-everywhere-a-thousand-times-before-apple-did-it shit. I swear if Windows 11 lets users slap the taskbar on top again we'll see articles claiming Windows 11 is trying to be like apple..

[@Trillykins]

I felt I was exaggerating here, but then they got into saying that the standard looking menu was definitely apple, the rounded corners on the notification is apple, and... having a notes app is apple, even though... like, are you serious? Or is the whole thing a bit specifically at my expense? If so, that's mean, guys.

[@cr082080]

@@Trillykins It's not just you. They should have gotten Linus to do this.

[@ccolorsplit]

AFAIK, the “add ram” feature in android shouldn’t wear out your storage because it will only be used when your physical ram is full. Which should never really happen with normal users. It’s fine to leave it on, and even if it wears down your storage, the phone should still last many years, much more than the user will actually use it.

[@edneddy2]

128GB storage is... pretty good. But you still need to have expandable storage if you want the device to be an investment instead of a consumable in a few years. Storage adds up for some people. Especially for Gacha game users.

[@MartijnTV]

Lol. Phones start at this amount now. 128 gb for a wannabe premium device is stupid

[@TheStatisticalPizza]

@@MartijnTVmy guess is that 90% of users never come anywhere near filling 128gb on their phone, the biggest storage consumption is probably video recordings and you likely will be doing none of that on your tablet. Most people use these devices to play a few mobile games and consume content - 128gb is plenty for that.

[@edneddy2]

@@MartijnTV well 128gb is just the bare minimum these days. But like you said, wannabe premium. In markets within the US, if you want more, you'll have to spend more.

[@edneddy2]

@@TheStatisticalPizza for most cases, 128gb is enough to have a functioning phone, check a few emails, and the ability to search the web. But appdata fills up quickly and with formatting and OS storage, that 128gb shrinks pretty quickly to about half. Even google stores a lot of data locally. As for the mobile games, it depends on the games. Some apps have a ton of extra content that needs to be downloaded. The 5-10GB cache data that the app store doesn't mention before downloading. All that new and old released content gets saved to your device and you don't notice till your phone says it's running low on storage.

[@uhm175]

Gacha games are trash, i only play like 1 or 2 which are good/generous, so 128GB is more than enough Barely i seen anyone uses more than 64gb either

[@0080ff]

for a tablet with that giant camera circle, 720p seems very disappointing

[@KoenvdW88]

Wow, that's much better than expected - I'll probably be nudging my parents towards this when either of their tablets gives up the ghost (my money is currently on my mum's Galaxy Tab dying before my dad's iPad). The one thing I would've liked to know is, considering where the front camera is located, what happens when you go to take a selfie in portrait mode? It's one of the major issues I've always had with iPads - the camera is in the wrong place for decent calling, and that seems to have been resolved here (making the landscape orientation the correct one!), but it'd just be nice to know what the camera does in portrait as a result of that move.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

Not calling it the 1Pad is a major missed opportunity

[@zeroskill.]

being realistic, how different can you make something that is physically topside entirely glass bottomside entirely metal. just call it a tablet and not a ripoff ipad

[@louielouie22]

I have to restart my phone 5 times a day because the phone has a feature where if I'm on KZbin and get a text message I can leave to answer the text and the window minimizes which is cool but then my phone freezes up. The video still plays and I can exit texting, but I can't leave KZbin or even leave what I'm watching. The audacity for T-Mobile to charge me 400 bucks for a phone that's worth maybe 40

[@gorfmaster1]

I remember a day when OnePlus was the company that would produce flagship specs for not flagship prices. If it is going to be the same price as a device, may as well get one. Probably get updates longer too.

[@ThisWillCharacter]

The reason a lot of the UI is similar to apple’s is because it’s the best way to do it. If you’re adding a toolbar on the homescreen or notification banners, if it’s different to apple’s then it’s specifically only like that to be different. Why would you put extra effort and money into development of a product just to make it different to someone else’s? That’s like if Toyo came along and decided they were going to make their tyres out of wood because Michelin already make them out of rubber so they have to be different. It’s pointless and harms the product.

[@zerorig]

weird how Apple users can't apply this sort of logic to USB C

[@ThisWillCharacter]

@@zerorig true, although the issue there is more that everyone should adopt a universal standard. Not because it is objectively better than anything else (cuz inevitably there’s going to be another USB one day) but that it’s more user-friendly and reduces e-waste. So that’s not really a comparable issue, however I suspect that was meant to be more of a personal attack since you assume that I use apple products. However I agree with the widespread adoption of USB-C

[@Targetlockon]

The camera color and the audio was good 👌 on the tablet thought it would do worse

[@adamgreenhill110]

You want more Android tablets, but the Samsung Tab S8 is better than any iPad (for my use case). I'd hate an iPad but I love the Tab S8

[@RafaelSilva-nq2in]

You should made a video on the xiaomi mi pad 5. A budgety option but totally impressive

[@HearMeLearn]

I might be bullshitting but I think flossy carter made a video on that

[@kirameki7331]

1:13 Somebody's watching JAV... 😂

[@brucepreston3927]

Who the hell would pay $100 for a stylus! It better be the most comfortable thing I have ever held!

[@liamsz]

people who get paid to use that stylus? (artists)

[@brucepreston3927]

@@liamsz Of course I know that...I was just making a point of how ridiculous things have gotten! There is no reason in the world that a Stylus should be $100, unless it does something way more than just draw on the screen...

[@osiris7945]

@@liamsz 100 is ridiculous. only sheep & fanboy would tolerate that. all i know android is affordable & reliable and that keep people from switching from brands that sells gimmick without innovations yet so pricey.

[@anohippo]

Material Design and the rounded corner UI originated from google, saying that android is copying that is actually hilarious but shows how good apples marketing is once again.

[@Thezftw]

Rounded corners have existed long before Material and I'm not really sure what even makes this Material. Maybe they laxed the design guidelines so much that anything counts.

[@antanis]

It's the top in portrait mode so the speakers don't blast into a couch or lap, and that's why the power button and volume buttons aren't on the top right in landscape mode. I don't mind that button and orientation layout overall. The lack of stereo speakers is somewhat disappointing though. I think the keyboard and stylus are overpriced, especially the feature limited keyboard, but I don't dislike the price of the pad itself. I'm not sure the relative performance of the processor in this one though so that would require some more looking into

[@northerner4995]

I believe it does have stereo speakers

[@k9man163]

I like Riley videos outside of tech linked. He's just sounds inquisitive and happy.

[@LockeTheCole]

Considering HOW bad the OnePlus' phone software has gotten in just the last 2 years, I would never buy any OnePlus phone again nor a tablet... 2 years ago, I'd have been all over this thing but with all their terrible management decisions and loss of quality software engineers, I've no interest in anything they make anymore. Edit: That they still call the OS Oxygen OS after all the crap they've done to it, slowly merging it with Oppo's OS like we didn't notice them doing it for the last couple years is terribly offensive.

[@diabolo1809]

Didn't One + have a come back last year (or this year can't remember), in terms of phone and software quality?

[@MrTheinfoman]

Oneplus tablet has a many criticism one Louis Rossman made a video of one plus add worst ant repair feature when they encrypted they battery on bms chip so no one but one plus can fix it meaning you have a evil bms in your tablet unless you live in India where the government forced one plus to give third party repairs the right to repair products.

[@Niccolonic]

The sound effect for the little iPad counter was very annoying. It was a fun idea and having the little Apple counter take up was great but for those of us with like ADHD it's so distracting

[@JakeT304]

Looks like a really nice tablet. If I hadn’t just bought an iPad mini would’ve definitely gone this route and saved a bit of cash. That being said, I wish oneplus would’ve went with an original UI design. Copying apple just makes it harder to take seriously as its own thing.

[@Kyle_116]

To be fair to the stand, the picture on the box is exactly how the stand is standing up. The box doesn't show the tablet in the stand.

[@Aremisalive]

Hmmm.... I like my Surface, its good for a laptop as well as a drawing tablet. I've considered a cheap samsung tablet or ipad as a dedicated drawing device however, as my surface is getting old now. Depending on the price, I could see myself getting this to avoid the Apple ecosystem and abhorrent business practices. I kinda want to just by a new surface, but they are pricey.

[@G1NZOU]

I can see the UI of this working for my mother who likes using her old iPad but doesn't like how separate it is from her Windows laptop and Pixel phone, being iPad like in the UI but being more in the loop with her phone in terms of OS and apps actually works for her well, and she normally watches videos on it without headphones so the speakers are a big plus.

[@domis95]

If it gets LineageOS stable, I'd see a reason to upgrade

[@ChillyPeppers]

12:25 "Wear down your storage faster" But it's solid state.

[@k.alipardhan6957]

who cares if its like apple. id rather oneplus copy, save money, and pass the savings to me. if it works, it works.

[@torimato]

Did they pass the savings? Sounds like every single accessory regardless of quality costs the exact same