Onewheel Charging Explained

[@batterymooch]

Nicely done! Thank you for taking the time to do this video.

[@TheBoardGarage]

Much appreciated sir! Thank you for taking the time to explain stuff to me.

[@revodrvr]

Mooch is the battery og He single handedly made vaping much safer when mech mods were popular . You knew which batteries to run and how low u could go with each He also called out all of the fakes

[@TheFloatLife]

I understood at least half of these words! Thanks Mario!

[@TheBoardGarage]

Thank you!

[@chuck__van]

🤣🤣🤣

[@goldennewf7098]

Lol woaaah-ly fack bud!

[@AyyeeitsDerek]

I know this is a year late question but can you charge a onewheel standing up? It's takes up less space lol

[@TheBoardGarage]

@derekchurch3538 Yes.

[@mgkeoh]

This is absolutely fascinating. I’m 67 now and have been charging things for years and years. I have several electric scooters. And now a Onewheel GT. And the information I’m coming across from all the onewheel owners and FM is really interesting on batteries and charging.

[@iankunert6131]

I love the OneWheel community so dang much and you are one of the reasons why!

[@Ashborne117]

I appreciate this video so much. The battery on my pint does seem like the capacity has shrank to the point that my range has reduced considerably and after watching this video I am one of those people who would unplug it once the light was green. I also usually charge my one wheel to the 100% mark and keep it there even through winter of like 3 months of not using my board. I'm glad to know that I can do something about it by balancing the cells and have learned a great deal about how to properly care for a battery. Thanks!

[@theone2be33]

Video was so much easier to watch just listening to you speak and not being washed out by background music. Thanx Mario! 👌😎

[@Nolgore]

That's awesome the float life boys are sponsoring you

[@danbrown6925]

Solid video, much appreciated. I will def plug my xr in with the power on. Seems to be a clean way to do it with the capacitors full. The balancing stuff I was really hoping you touched on and didn’t disappoint there! Thank you

[@danilolattaro]

Thank you for summarizing with high quality content these very discussed topics!

[@azndemonlord54]

It's a shame I can only give videos 1 like. The information is so concise and clear.

[@TheBoardGarage]

Thank you! I appreciate that.

[@azndemonlord54]

@@TheBoardGarage I have a question. For extended periods of storage, you say to keep the battery about 40% to 60%, is this an absolute? Or does storing it as close to 40% to 60% also acceptable ? Such as storing at 70% to 80% ?

[@TheBoardGarage]

@@azndemonlord54 It's probably fine for shorter periods, but if you're talking about months, then you'd be better served by discharging the battery further. blog.epectec.com/battery-storage-and-charge-management-best-practices

[@rthat1]

I usually give multiple likes by: 1. Hitting the like button. 2. Unlike the video. 3. Hitting the like button again. Repeat until you think they’ve got enough likes.

[@KDelta2]

Yes, its helpful, Mario. For so many. This is not what i do for work. This is what you do, with passion. Thank you. We need advisement, and i trust yours.

[@VoightMandolins]

Great info thank you very much🙏 On the topic of anxiety: something that has completely removed anxiety from my life is an online course called Inner Engineering. Anxiety is basically our mind not functioning the way we want it to. There are very concrete things in this course that have fundamentally changed this for me and it has in turn changed the way I live and experience my life. Thanks again and take care 🙏

[@SnowyBlizzard]

“A ggggggtttt- nope, I’m not that important”🤣🤣 I’m crying

[@OneTrickWheel]

We continue to learn so much from you Mario. This is a very helpful video. Thank you sir🙏

[@markdbentz]

I'm picking up an XR today, thanks for schooling me on the battery management.

[@craigcollincomedy]

Always appreciate the mix of technical and "layman's" information you provide, sir. Great video!

[@RossHasAdrone]

Holy cow that last bit about not using the product to the ends of its abilities made me so happy! The brain power alone those “should I complete a charge, oh no I discharged it too far” thoughts occupy could power the board back to full!

[@eekdestroy5329]

Great video, very useful indeed. I charge my GT to 75% when I get back from a ride and then leave it on 75% during days when I don't need it. The morning of a ride day I plug it in and let the light go green. I can ride it down to about 3-4% before it kicks me off.

[@xsh4n400]

Thanks! I feel like I've done a lot of research into batteries and charging, and I still learned from your video. Also appreciate your philosophy on the 80/20 rule. Personally I try to follow that when I can, especially if I know I'm not using my device for a few days. But it's also not productive to stress out over what is essentially a consumable part. Do you happen to know what part we need to buy if we've worn out that cable that goes into the XR's charging brick?

[@TheBoardGarage]

Unfortunately I don't know what it's called. I've found it on Amazon by searching for 2 prong AC power cord.

[@ricarmmtz]

I’ve found it as figure 8 cable, but idk what the correct name is

[@tawatos]

Great video. I design battery packs and power electronics for living and you explained it very well without being too technical and run people off. I have a Pint X and I'm DIYing my own fast charger.

[@NevilleSidhu]

Ayyyyyeee Battery Mooch, first heard about him threw vaping. Great guy, with a wealth of knowledge..

[@scotthelmann5156]

Good job putting out accurate and correct information. It’s refreshing!

[@jaydr0id568]

I literally needed this video yesterday because my CBXR is having issues like as you are explaining in this video. Now i have a better understanding of my battery and i feel confident on what to do. Thanks Mario

[@TheAnimeist]

What is CBXR versus the XR? I know what an XR is from FM's catalog, but I never saw a CBXR designation. Thank you.

[@jaydr0id568]

@@TheAnimeist Its a 30 mile range battery for the XR board itself. Its an internal battery.

[@billseacrist1091]

Nice video - I was getting conflicting advice on charging - it's nice to hear a detailed explanation. this was a big help - Thanks!

[@lorendjones]

Very informative, as always. Thanks for sharing your expertise with the rest of us electronically-challenged OWers.

[@lorendjones]

Great info, Mario. I really enjoy all the info you provide us OWers. You vids are always top notch.

[@EugeneMaynard]

Wow Mario! Thank you, that was a lot of work and info you put out in this one! Excellent. 👏🏾👍🏾🙏🏾

[@AndyW__]

Really useful thanks. Brand new rider and you've answered a lot of questions I had in my head. Nice job thanks dude

[@robinoja]

Exactly the kind of info I was looking for since recently buying my first onehweel. One question tho - how often should I balance the cells? Let's say I ride every day. Should I leave it plugged in every night? Once a week? Thanks again, super informative video.

[@TheBoardGarage]

If your board is new, I'd say it's a decent idea to leave it on the charger an hour or so after it's turned green when you charge it. I've also read that folks have good results from just leaving it on the charger for several hours as a balance charge once a month.

[@douglasyoung3992]

I like your technical knowledge of the one wheels. Plus your riding skills are great without being an X games pilot Talking down condescendingly to the average schmuck like myself.

[@EvilJack2]

Thank you! Amazing explanation and education right there. I've had my XR since one month before you (Oct 2018) and I've never taken it off the charger for any reason other than to ride it. So for four years (and 3500 miles) it's been charging. As you said - he less you worry about it the better. And I worry about it none. Although the safety factor you mention may need to come into play more with me. And my board gives me the same range that it did when I got it. I can't perceive any difference. And I've worried about it for not one second over those 4 years. That to me is worth the chance that I may have to replace it some day. But four years in and still perfect. I think the no worry route is best. Well except for the safety.

[@markgoff5307]

My solution to the "pop" arcing problem was to put a cheap in-line AC switch between the wall outlet and the plug leading to the charger. That moves the arc from expensive components to essentially a disposable component. My charging protocol is to plug the charger into my unpowered board, then flip the in-line AC switch. The charger and switch are left plugged into the wall outlet all the time.

[@deanaoxo]

As did I. Navy trained FT.

[@vesc007]

itching for more esk8 content! Love the channel

[@URBANENGINEER]

Thank you for clarifying that. I still will plug into board/bike first and wall second every time.

[@drumstickscarecrow]

I feel like part of the problem with OW charging for most people is that they generally don't have a way to see/know exactly how balanced the cells are in their battery. Last weekend, I asked a OW group on Facebook about how I might be able to actually see what each cell is at so that I know just how balanced the battery pack is. The Onewheel app from FM doesn't give such info, and the group on FB directed me to the OWCE app. Problem solved in that regard. While watching this video, my Pint was on the stock charger, and I decided to unplug it and check the apps right after the light turned green. Sure enough, the cells weren't totally balanced (or fully charged by the looks of it), and they were around 4.13 or 4.14 volts each. Having watched this vid as well as checking OWCE, now I know I've been unplugging the OW far too soon. I've always just unplugged it when the light on the charger turned green. Apparently I haven't been getting a solid/balanced charge (pretty much) since I got it a year ago. Thanks so much for the vid.

[@lionelhernandez34]

OWCE App?

[@drumstickscarecrow]

@@lionelhernandez34 Onewheel Community Edition, available for iOS and Android. It's a good app to have in addition to the main Onewheel app, primarily for checking on the battery's individual cell voltage levels.

[@Darieee]

fantastic video

[@nsxlai2000]

My pint exhibit the same behavior that will throw a red light at 30%…. Now I know why….. thanks for the explanation!!

[@lamour1005]

Great video good to learn about the battery charging procedures. For the XR. Thanks Mario🚀🤙🏻🇺🇸🚁🚁🚁🚁

[@MikeErickson]

Thanks for this Mario! Clarified some mysteries for me.

[@hotelroyal334]

Can't thank you enough for this info, had my GT shut down with 68% left in the app! I thought I was done for but I was doing the stupid 80%-20% thing 🤦‍♂️

[@lautarogatti]

Did you fix it by balancing?

[@hotelroyal334]

@@lautarogatti I balanced it for two days, rode again and it cut off and nosedived without warning, put me in the hospital 😓 No riding for a while, Future Motion won't even cover repairs

[@lautarogatti]

@@hotelroyal334 oh that's terrible! Did it shut off or warned you the other time at 68%? I have a pint x and mine started buzzing low battery at 58% but didn't die. Now I've been balancing it for a few days hoping to fix it...

[@hotelroyal334]

@@lautarogatti last time it warned me and nicely slowed down and brought the nose up and let me off, this time one second alarm then crash 💀 Your method seems to work for lots of other people, hoping yours fixes, Be very careful 🙏

[@fromdonwithlove]

Love the detail and technical information you can only get from a Mario Contino video.

[@directive10289]

Thanks, that’s all I’ll ever need to know about batteries/charging!

[@notaleproductions]

Thanks! I was wondering about the ins and outs of the OW Battery. You take care as well.

[@adambanks4767]

Looking forward to more of your content. I’m in the automotive world and want to know more about this content. I need more info. Love my Onewheel.

[@danieljohnkirby9412]

I got used to the whole "charge to 80%" mantra since I drive an electric car, so I don't feel I'm depriving myself by charging to 80%. It's not like I won't ever charge to 100%, it's just for my daily riding I try to keep the cycle close. If I'm going on a trail ride or a trip or something obviously I'm going to charge to 100%. I think it's perfectly reasonable to try to treat the battery well in the hopes of eking out more longevity, but I agree you shouldn't deprive yourself of use of the battery for the battery's health.

[@erockplumtree3836]

Will leaving charger plugged in when board is set to stop charging at %90 still balance the cells, or needs to be at %100?

[@Starch-Wreck]

You have the exact same voice as the Unsolved Mysteries guy. I was expecting a Onewheel mystery.

[@breezeey9113]

its been 10 months now can we have a video of Onewheel charging Explained for Onewheel GT? Is there any difference specifically for GT with NMC battery.

[@markeithmcdonald3695]

I left my Onewheel Pint in my car over the winter and I finally brought it back inside. I attempted to plug it in to charge it but the charging light stays green and my board won’t turn on. How can I fix this problem?

[@cfrankfly]

Omg!!! Best explanation EVER! THank you!

[@Exonfang]

I don't trust the cell on the left at 22:33. Great video Mario!

[@aaronbro420]

This video was soooo helpful!!! Thank you!

[@jinkiescoob]

Put my mind at ease. Thanks.

[@asmokingumbrella]

Great content! I have a question: to maintain battery longevity and maximum range is it *ideal* to completely drain the battery before charging it?

[@TheBoardGarage]

No, that's not necessary. The lithium ion cells used in these packs don't need that sort of attention. They incur a cycle from an empty-to-full and full-to-empty charge/discharge. If you only go to half, and then charge it, that's chemically/electrically a half cycle. So you're free to use the board to 20%, 75%, etc. and just charge it. It won't have any appreciable effect on the longevity of the battery any more than any other cycle uses would.

[@asmokingumbrella]

@@TheBoardGarage thank you for the detailed explanation. Keep up the the great content!

[@josephknowles1326]

Thanks dude I watched this whole video just for that question you asked.

[@growingupisatrap6688]

Thanks Mario, very useful, my preference is to charge both my pint and XR to full (green light) and unplug whenever I remember too and never worry about them being sat around on a full charge. Life is stressful enough to be worrying about how full my batteries are whether I’ll be using them again soon or not. Same goes for all my lithium power tools etc. Interestingly my Ego tools and there 54v batteries have a clever design that automatically drains them to around 50% if they are not used for a certain time frame, if only all lithium batteries did this, that would be so easy then.

[@hansensabal8767]

Hello my Pint did not come with Charger, so I purchase one it was half more Amper on charger 3. And my one wheel 1.5 I charge it but now it will shot down

[@NitroRoo]

Super useful info! Thanks for making this video!

[@kenmontoya8156]

Hey Mario I know you posted this a while ago but I think I’m recent updates the one wheel now stops charging once the board reaches 100% how would I be able to able to balance my cells ? The noise it makes when it charges has stopped so I’m assuming it’s no longer charging.. asking because it seems mt battery is unbalanced.. board turned off and the app told me the board needs to be charged .. even though the battery is at 50%

[@S88187]

Fantastic video! This helped put some of my charging anxieties at ease. One thing I'm still unsure about is this scenario I'm about to explain. So let's say I'm going riding with friends and they all have fully charged batteries but my battery is at let's say 40%. Can I charge my battery up 100% from 40% or is it better to drain my battery to 10% or less and then charge it up to 100%? Basically is it bad to charge a battery up to 100% from 70%, 50%, or 30% (random percentage examples)?

[@-JohnSmith-]

Watched the whole thing I guess I missed about how long after the green light turns on does it take to fully balance the cells? Because the conventional wisdom on all the forums is it takes at least 24 to 48 hours to fully balance the cells...

[@michaelgabriel4212]

Insta-subscribed. Thanks for the thorough and clear content!

[@ericellazar8532]

Can you fix my 4209 controller. I think the spark/ arc fried my controller. When I plug my board it won’t charge anymore. Lmk thanks

[@jondough9651]

So how long do you charge a pint to balance cells? Also when my pint charger is plugged in it says 100 percent on app then when I take charger out it says 99 percent on app. Is it because pint battery in unbalanced?

[@jaredz9507]

Love your videos G, could you do a video about adding a different BMS to the onewheel? I blew up my pints BMS and I don't want another one. I've decided to say fuck it and get a VESC and I want to add an external BMS if you have anything that could be useful for me it would help so much. I'm down with diy so I'm honestly down with anything

[@cody.onewheel]

3rd method has always been my goto

[@bustinyediis13]

Wow! Amazingly informative. Thank you!

[@Serge0329]

Great video about charging. Thank you. Is there a way to revive a onewheel battery if it wasnt charged for 1.5 years and now it doesnt get charged? I revived a 12v battery before by connecting a healthy battery to the dead one, so the charging device could see the batteries, do you know if there is a way to revive the onewheel without sending to the shop? by the way the dead onewheel i am talking about was purchased second hand and I would like to fix it for my kid. thank you

[@DrTrill-nv2dp]

What does it mean when I have a cell out of balance and the other cells come down but the low call stays the same? I'm talking about when it's on the charger. The app still says it's full, green light on, and the total voltage data says it's nearly full, but if you add up the cell voltages they don't equal fully charged, quite a less in fact.

[@MrUrynis]

so i understand green light on the charger shows when the charing slows down to lvl charge the board, however the 100% charge app showing , is that a reliable way of knowing my board is full? or should i just do my maths as to required time span of charging and the % i started charging it at for full efficient charge times ???

[@islandthings2912]

I would me glad to see this topic on electric skateboards I started with a boosted board V2 & an have not one but two unban batteries. After I sold it got a Evolve GTR & stock haven't had that issue yet

[@DaydreamFilmworks]

STILL excellent info.

[@agunther08]

Hi Mario, I’m hoping you can give me some insight/advice anyway to discharge my one wheel to storage level - other than riding it off? Here's my fix I'm in, I've been riding this fall and put a full charge in my XR +, I put a full charge in and now I've got snow and ice - not sure when the roads will clear enough to ride my charge down. How can discharge to a storage voltage? Thank you for any advice you could give me.

[@HellaCopter]

Wonder if using a surge protector with a switch always plugged in then just switch on when plugged into the wheel

[@KyleSand]

We have a onewheel thay wasnt used for many months and wouldnt charge. We took it apart and tested the battery and now the pack reads shorted (0 ohm) between battery terminals. No signs of heat or melting on the pack from the dead short, but is it possible to bring it back to life? What component may have shorted?

[@jsnthurst1]

Wait, did you remove the foot pad sensor?

[@fdisanto1984]

19:26 what about the option for limit to 90% charging on GT ? Is it good? Does this mode balance the batteries as well leaving GT plugged?

[@codyhowe1059]

Thank you so much

[@StanfordLeeStrong]

Is there a surge protector you can recommend?

[@jacribb]

You mentioned that you don’t notice any battery degradation or range loss after using your XR since 2018. How many miles do you have on your XR?

[@hazelbud3630]

F#c## board kept dying at 50 percent, now I know why. I'm leaving my Pint X to charge for 3 days. See if it'll work.. Stay Schemin'-and-Wheelin' ❤️🤙

[@baggszilla]

Good info

[@TheAnimeist]

Future Motion recommends: "Be careful not to overcharge or undercharge your battery." How do you undercharge your battery? Once you drain to 0%, even though there is voltage in the batteries, the Onewheel does not allow you to drain it any further.

[@joe5834]

Mario, please help...I can't find much info on a CBSP battery specifically and mine charges to 62.9v when fully charged but after unplugging from wall and turning on the board I have 58.4v which translates to around 70% according to chibattery voltage chart. I get around 6 miles where I used to get 10+, I use a BYOB to charge on remote trails occasionally following the directions to do so, I have put around 2000 miles over 6 month span, I have tried balancing 24 hr but have not yet done a 72 hr balance. Any advice or thoughts on potential issues? Thanks in advance

[@TheBoardGarage]

It sounds like it's just worn out. Electrically, the CBSP is the same as a Quart. It's 15 cells, in 1p. So all those charges are happening across a single cell. If you're using the board aggressively, you're aging the cells faster, and with only a single cell in parallel (stock battery has 2 in parallel), you're doubling the age rate. It sounds like you're just currently at 70% of the capacity left of those cells. Balancing isn't likely to do anything, if you take it off the charger and the voltage immediately drops. The pack is likely worn out.

[@joe5834]

I amazed at the speed of your reply, thank you so much. I think I may just buy another CBSP, it was a fun pack! Original 4212 battery was averaging 10-12 miles anyhow.

[@stewartbisset]

Thank u. Very useful, well explained

[@joshua1577]

In a below comment you mentioned that charging from 20% or any other percent would have the appropriate cycle amount. But how often/long should you leave a onewheel battery to fully balance it? I personally do mine every night and leave it all night (approximately 7 hours at a time) but have recently had some issues with all of my cbxr’s (not going to get into that). In terms of stock batteries, I was informed that consistently fast charging from 60% (what many people do on group rides) is inherently bad for the battery. Any input on that?

[@jaydr0id568]

I have the same issue with my CBXR. It caps at 77 and takes almost 2 days to go to 100. You need to balence the board for longer before a group ride.

[@DiederikDeReuse]

Very informative, thank you!!

[@TheAnimeist]

At least for the Pint, if you leave the board and app on when you start charging, you can monitor the voltage and temperatures. The battery temperature increases as it charges. When the light on the charger turns green, the temperature starts to drop, and the regen amps start to level out. This starts to happen around the ~97% battery mark. So when your charger is green, you're not really there.

[@miguelsalazar9147]

My charger doesn’t turn green when it is 100% so I just look at my app for the percentage any tips on what I can do about the charger

[@TheAnimeist]

​@@miguelsalazar9147 Mine doesn't turn red right away when the app indicates 100%. It takes about 15 more minutes. Does the green LED turn on when the charger is plugged into the wall, but not the board? It should turn red when you plug it in to the board. If not, your power supply may be broken. Or the green LED is burned out. But you say it keeps charging well over 100%. How do you know this? The newer app does not give you enough diagnostic information to tell you current is being drawn at any point in the charging cycle. My original post does not apply anymore yo the new app. Measure the current going to the power supply (117 VAC) at the beginning of charging. When the app says it's 98% full, start monitoring the current again. If the current slows down, then I suspect it's your LED. Everything else is working. How many miles do you have on your board? After a while (2000 miles on mine) , my battery was doing strange things. Like going from 17% full to 0% within a few feet. Yeah, I'm still not happy about that nose-dive. Or charging, and staying at 100% no matter what - which is a bummer because the new updated app with haptic buzz, shuts the board down. And you have to cycle power every ten feet. Can you borrow a charger from a friend? To see if it's the charger, or the Onewheel that is broken. Or you can buy a new charger, and if it still does not work, see if FM will buy the charger back. Or take note of how long it takes to charge a battery. Then put the charger on a timer and charge it, with the timer timing out at the right moment. You can be conservative and guess a time for 95%. After that, monitor as you have been. As a side note, the LED my just be burned out. It's rare, but if you take the charger apart, and troubleshoot the LED, let us know how you too it apart. The power supplies are sealed well. To test the LED, make sure the green LED is disconnected, and apply the appropriate voltage and current. For the proper voltage and current, you can use a 9-volt battery in series with a 360-390 ohms. Now that I think about it, the LEDs may be in a single package. There will be three prongs coming from the LED package. Connect the LEDs in parallel. If the green and red LEDs turn on, then the green LED is good. But this does not necessarily mean the power is not broken. If you don't know too much about electronics, seek guidance. It's too easy to brick your board if you do something wrong. Good luck, float on my friend. PS: After saving my money, I purchased a second Pint (at $750 I could not resist), and a GT. My original Pint since then has been a garage ornament. I did not ride for about 4 months - oh the pain. Now I have a backup.

[@mariozaizar]

How you can ride your board down to 1%? I got a hard nose dive on my almost-new pint-x with less than 15%. Later I heard it is not recommended to ride it with below 20%.

[@TheBoardGarage]

I just ride slowly.

[@psydwayze]

Super helpful stuff!

[@cjohnson3706]

Pint charge ports blow out often.

[@Julian3vil]

Hey Mario do you recommend dropping the charge to 1% before balancing?(lets say need some juice message pops at 10-20%) I put the board in a box, some weigh to the sensors and discharge to 1% . Is it 24-72HRS unreasonable to balance? Btw, 30min vide about how to charge, and I still want more.....😆🙌🙌

[@TheBoardGarage]

It doesn’t really matter all that much. Discharge level doesn’t have an effect on the cells as far as balance goes. The board dying at earlier percentages is usually the BMS miscalculating how much energy is left, or that the cells are so unbalanced that just leaving it plugged in isn’t going to do much in the long term. Imbalance is a symptom of a worn or bad pack, and 72 hour balance charges don’t really fix actual issues that may come up.

[@Julian3vil]

@@TheBoardGarage I'm a lil confused to be honest. Checking the cells & percentage with OWCE; at 10% cells were 2,86-2,96V. A few secs later the battery percentage crashed directly to 1% and the cells were at 2,6-2,82v. I had read that the recomended procedure was to discharge than balance for a couple of days (once a month or so for maintenance) If you say there isnt much effect to discharge at 1%, I'm pretty happy since its a pain in the A$$ to do so :) BTW thanks for the quick reply ;)

[@TheBoardGarage]

Discharging the pack doesn’t usually do anything for the cells. It may help the BMS to get a more accurate sense of the range from top to bottom of the charge, but if it is going down below 2.7v per cell and still reading 10%, then that’s pretty far off. Chances are the pack is worn out and it’s dropping in voltage faster than the BMS expects it to, since the percentage meter isn’t based on voltage, it’s based on how much energy is consumed.

[@Julian3vil]

@@TheBoardGarage Thanks Mario! Much appreciated. Checking your new Videos...

[@robinoja]

I have a brand new board and when the app reaches 100% the charger light stays red for more than an hour every time. Even when I charge overnight and just ride once, still red light for a long time after app says 100%. Does that mean I have a bad cell in there that discharges faster or recharges slower?

[@TheBoardGarage]

It's possible that's the case. It may also be an issue with the BMS, if it's not slowing charge properly as it reaches target voltage.

[@qapaMcFly]

as someone who dont know shit about batteries and bmses, i must say this was interesting. Thanks Mario. ▪🔘▪ PS: Welcome to the OW+ vesc club

[@knevil753]

hey mario-! whats your thoughts on rapid chargers vs getting a cbxr upgrade or similar. i know you're not a fan of larger capacity batteries in that small housing. $650 vs $80-$100. just looking for a good option for the rest of the summer so i can ride longer or charge faster. i will absolutely be going the vesc route once it matures and i can understand it better. or would you just go vesc and get that TORque pack. what would you do?

[@TheBoardGarage]

If your primary interest currently is just riding more, then I'd get the charger. I'm not a fan of the CBXR to begin with, I think it's not a very good idea or execution. And if the TORque pack you're talking about is made by ChiBattery, I'd personally avoid that as well. I have a spare XR fast charger I'm not going to use anymore, feel free to email me or reach out on IG, I'm going to list it in the marketplace for cheap, I'm trying to keep the shop inventory trim. Best of luck in your future build.

[@knevil753]

@@TheBoardGarage sold- ill message you on FB

[@lcprod]

Great Mario thanks

[@Lloyd_Amsterdam]

Hey Mario. Apparently, the GT has an option to stop charging at 90%. Would such a charging cycle still include cell balancing? Otherwise, that would eventually damage the battery pack?

[@TheBoardGarage]

I am not entirely sure. It would make sense, that since FM designed the BMS in the GT on their own, and it's easy to set when balance charging happens, that the GT would run balancing when it reaches 90%. Having a BMS restrict current from the input, and begin running balance checks at any given voltage isn't THAT difficult to program in, and many specialized BMS systems do this already.

[@Lloyd_Amsterdam]

@@TheBoardGarage Yeah that would make sense. Plus if you would consistently skip balancing every time you charge it, it could throw the cells off balance more and more, potentially damaging the pack, right?

[@TheBoardGarage]

@@Lloyd_Amsterdam Correct. They would be asking for more battery problems after a year or so. So it makes more sense that they would set the 90% option to have conditions for the BMS to require and then start a balancing cycle at that specific charge level.

[@fevolenko3995]

Does the leaving on to balance after green light work the same when using addons like GT40 battery?

[@TheBoardGarage]

Generally yes, your internal battery will behave the same.

[@CosmicGlue]

Aloha brother! Great video! I have an old pint that I can hear make a sound when I plug it in (or press ON) but it won't turn on and doesn't seem to want to take a charge. Any ideas?

[@TheBoardGarage]

Sounds like a failed component on the BMS.

[@CosmicGlue]

@@TheBoardGarage I really appreciate your time and energy. MAHALO!

[@onewheel9004]

Hey Mario my Hypercharger for my onewheel XR is charging slowly, just like the regular charger, why do you think that is? I have a 4209 version. I get 10% every 10 minutes.

[@TheBoardGarage]

I'm not sure... Could be a faulty potentiometer in the charger. Have you tested other chargers?

[@onewheel9004]

@@TheBoardGarage When I come across an other fast charger I'll give it a try, thanks:)

[@Lokkiism]

Ok so charge it to 90% daily and then leave it plugged in over night once a week to balance it thanks.