Only 1 Lens for Street AND Product Photography? | 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, Nikon Zf

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0:00 Introduction
1:48 Product shot 1
2:48 You only need one light
4:40 Product shot 2
8:28 Product shot 3

[@BokehTherapy]

This was one street photographer's poor attempt at product shots, so shout out to all the product photographers out there. Your work is the engine that drives everything on the internet!

[@macmac6479]

Nice shots! Product photography would bore me, so I haven't tried it. But I have purchased the 105 1.8 Z and want to learn to shoot some sort of nature/street macro with it! Next project. The Z6III will probably be perfect for you as a You Tuber because of the video specs. Exclusive stills shooters like me will be more interested in the Z7III but very happy with the Z8/ZF for now!

[@BokehTherapy]

Haha I am not a product photographer by any means, these shots just make selling old gear more fun. I love the resolution and feature set of the Z8, just want a smaller body without too many compromises. Looking forward to the announcement next week!

[@21Virtues]

This was a brilliant video and makes me want the light too. Well done.

[@BokehTherapy]

Thanks so much - 60 watt COB lights are so useful! More to come

[@IntrovertAmateur]

Made it, I'm up to date regarding your videos :D Great product shots, definitely learned something which I might apply on future thumbnails :) Light is definite key, but somehow I manage to cheap out on this topic until today and rather put my money into cameras and lenses xD Curious about tomorrows Nikon Z6III - if it will be more then a Zf in modern housing 🤔 You are really on fire with your uploads - keep it going! :)

[@BokehTherapy]

Thanks for the support man! Learning about lighting is quite frustrating actually - can’t just buy a new lens to fix it haha.

[@IntrovertAmateur]

@@BokehTherapy Amen to that my friend! Still doing my best to figure out the first light everyone learns first about - daylight aka our sun. Currently dipping my toe into shooting film without light meter with sunny 16. since I’m at the beginning, it’s quite hard to estimate the right exposure, but like you I do my best to keep learning 👍

[@BokehTherapy]

You’re well ahead of me on shooting film - I’ve never even tried it!

[@sdhute]

Amazingly good video

[@BokehTherapy]

Thanks so much Steve! More to come next week

[@EricWier]

Thanks for another insightful video! I recently on the 105 105mm f/2.8 VRS Macro and have been using it for product style shots and shots of miniatures I paint and it has been great. It is a huge lens compared to the Fuji lenses I have used in the past though :D

[@BokehTherapy]

I haven’t tried the 105mm, looks like a superb lens! Do you use studio lights or natural lights for these shots? Would love to see some!

[@EricWier]

@@BokehTherapy it is a great lens! I usually use led panel lights, set to 5700K, but I am still quite a novice at it.

[@MadefromJava]

Product photography is difficult for me. It’s probably one aspect I need to work on so I can sell all the stuff I hoard 😂 judging by some of the comments, I may need to get in to a 100mm lens, I might go with the Lumix do to it’s compact size.

[@BokehTherapy]

Can’t tell you how many takes I needed to make this video haha. Product photos are so hard, nothing but respect for the pros that do this. I have a huge backlog of stuff to sell this weekend!

[@juliettemansour]

Thanks for the nudge 🎉 and nice shots Jack! I don’t do a lot of product shots but I do own two original Vivian Maier pieces ❤. In 2009 I was a follower of John Malouf’s original blog post. I kept following and then I started my street photography group here in Atlanta because of something called the “Global Vivian Meier shoot out” which was a one day events where everyone tried to shoot like her. My group just kept going and survived up until the pandemic. There are a few of us still occasionally getting together today. I also have wondered what kept Vivian going. It’s amazing to think that she had zero feedback until close to the end of her life and that was just from one shopkeeper who planned on collaborating with her on her postcards idea. I think based on what I know about her personality she was just stubborn! It was something that came from within and she did not see another way. I think we all have a little something to learn from her. Thank you for keeping up with your own path and sharing it with us!

[@BokehTherapy]

Vivian is a true inspiration, but it took me a while to reconcile how I feel about the whole situation around the discovery of her work. How she persisted and kept getting better without any feedback is truly remarkable. I would love to go on a photowalk with your group, that sounds amazing!

[@juliettemansour]

@@BokehTherapy it took me a while to reconcile that as well. When I saw the film and realized that she had actual conversations about doing some things with her work, that helped resolve some of it for me. Well next time you’re in Atlanta, Georgia you’re welcome to join our group…. 😊.

[@BokehTherapy]

Sounds great! Looking forward to seeing your street photo book once it’s published too

[@juliettemansour]

I need that push! Thank you 😅

[@baconcrusader8382]

I really enjoy your channel and messaging. It's both a fresh approach and very well executed to your vision. Cudos to you for successfully blending art + commerce. My unsolicited thoughts regarding your product photography strategy with the purpose of buying/selling gear for profit [based on my +40 year carrier as a commercial photographer] would be to limit your "set" images to one, with the detail shots being more uniform and sterile. Meaning, use a photo illustration [your set with props and dramatic lighting] to tell the story of the item, then provide a series of well executed simple backdrop detail shots illustrating the items condition. Why? A few reasons: 1- it makes the set image stand out more and make a statement. If every shot is in a set, then it looks like you have too much time on your hands and the impact is lessened. Get creative and really tell a story with the photo illustration, you want to build the emotional joy of fulfilling a vision with its use. Tell a story. 2- a simple seamless "studio" backdrop [or similar] set of images serve as a mental break and provides a no-nonsense supporting story to your claims on condition and justifying your asking price. This strategy hits both the potential buyer's emotional side and intellectual side. But hey, you're doing awesome as-is my friend, so more power to you!

[@BokehTherapy]

Love the insights from commercial photography, as well as your reasoning behind it all. That’s my selfish reason for making this video - picking the brains of the pros to get better at product shots. The story behind it all is what I love, thanks so much for watching!

[@baconcrusader8382]

@@BokehTherapy Keep up the great work! Looking forward to following your vision.

[@ManOfKemet]

Really interesting seeing you navigate the interplay between product photography and the age old question of art and commerce. Is z6iii in the pipeline?

[@BokehTherapy]

I am waiting for the full Z6iii announcement to figure out if it’s a good fit for my workflow. No insider information yet! Thanks so much for watching, the Z6iii decision will be next week’s video

[@harleyglass5415]

Imagine buying this lens and then finding the whole BTS video of the product shots 😂

[@BokehTherapy]

Hahah hopefully it inspires even more confidence from the buyer! Thanks for watching

[@harleyglass5415]

@@BokehTherapy keen to see what this funded purchase wise !

[@BokehTherapy]

Still agonising over the decision right now - topic of this week’s video!

[@NetvoTV]

But selling second thing shouldn't be so professionally shot or else people will thought it's a scam, a picture taken off the internet instead of a real thing of your possession, right?

[@BokehTherapy]

I’m glad you think it looks professional, I still have a lot to learn! A commercial photographer said one lifestyle shot paired with some more basic shots is a nice approach. I will list the lens with these photos soon so let’s see how I go!

[@SteveGong]

I'll chime in - product photographer here who also has to sell their gear sometimes! I like to use my Nikon Z MC 105mm 2.8 because for a professional looking product shot you want to be far away from the item you're shooting for a perspective where the item looks more flat. I've gone all out on white seamless on acrylic reflection but now I actually intentionally make the setup look a little amateur so the buyer doesn't mistake the photos as something I pulled off of the product website; what I'll do is intentionally have the background show a seam so that it's not seamless. For camera gear that is all black, it's important to use large white sources of light (either softbox/window/reflector) from at least three directions (top and sides) so that way you get uniform lifting of the blacks. The opposite would be to use a small point light source, which would give you a product that looks like it has a lot of highlights but overall very dark. I'll also raise the blacks a bit so that it increases visibility on the details of the product. I find that product on white is better than a lifestyle shot where the item looks like it's been used. Basically I try to convey visually to the user the idea that the equipment has barely been touched and has just sat in a climate controlled room since day 1, and that the photos look great not because I'm a great photographer (even though I am :p) but because the item I'm selling is just so pristine.

[@BokehTherapy]

Thanks for the tips Steve!! I do have more lights that I use, but was interested to see what can be done with one light. Making it look less seamless on purpose is really interesting. Perhaps a topic for a future video!

[@SteveGong]

@@BokehTherapy If you'd like to use just one light, you could also get two reflectors and place them on top of your subject like the roof of a house and then have the light point upwards. Position of light is above subject slightly in front of it. I think the way you used window light and the zhiyun as a fill on the right is also a good idea but I would personally dial it to be the same color temperature as your daylight. I personally think that fill light really should be the same color temperature whereas it's more okay to having a different color accent/kicker light. As always, love the channel!

[@BokehTherapy]

Amazing tips, love learning from the pros. Thanks Steve! Coverage on the Z6iii is next week

[@SteveGong]

@@BokehTherapy wait, you got early access?! I'm hoping it'll be a perfect camera for street photography because carrying around my Z8 is a lot.

[@BokehTherapy]

Haha no I don’t have early access! I’m speaking with a few contacts to get more details, but it’s all radio silence from them until embargo is lifted.

[@Fujifilm2021]

How about 26mm？

[@BokehTherapy]

I’m sure you can make it work, not in my kit for the moment though!

[@WhoIsSerafin]

It's a amazing lens but I don't think it would be good for product photography

[@BokehTherapy]

The pro product photographers on this thread all seem to love longer focal lengths. The 105mm looks amazing but it is huge compared to the 26mm!

[@geekcommentator8567]

Did you just casually hint at the rumored 24-70 f2.0 announcement? If so, please pinch me.

[@BokehTherapy]

Haha no, I wish! Looks to be a great lens, but not a zoom shooter myself

[@geekcommentator8567]

@@BokehTherapy haha fair enough. New viewer/subscriber btw, keep up the great work!

[@BokehTherapy]

Thanks so much - working on next week’s video now