Great show guys, one of the best Raiders chats on the web imo. Keep up the great work & common sense approach to all things Raiders. Man there’s a lot of delusional Raider Nation fan takes out there. Nice to hear some real talk 🔥🏴☠️🏈👊🏻
@orlandoalvarez31033 күн бұрын
spot on, if you don't have the franchise QB on your team it won't matter how many other talented players you have.
@Lokirey2 күн бұрын
26:17 the issue I have is that if you have a team on their third string qb. 3rd string rb. And an injury ridden defense, do you think that team would be competitive? Not to mention the fired Offensive coordinator. But AP has this team in every game. Given the circumstances the team is still playing for him. And damn near beat the chiefs. Next year we get a no raider coach that has us mediocre but losing in division games, where’s the upside? Get him a competent offensive coordinator and qb, then evaluate.
@paulraider4l3 күн бұрын
Liam Coen
@R8erRay5103 күн бұрын
I agree the pick has to be QB no matter what First you get the right HC & OC in here then draft their guy With that 100mil in FA situate your OL & weapons to put your rookie in a good situation coming in, draft another young RB high Don't waste our time with a FA stop gap QB, no trades, no other paths in the draft like Hunter or something else, keep it simple get your guy & properly build around him
@wesleygestring25293 күн бұрын
Raiders will screw it all up by winning this week and maybe week 17 with the Chargers resting their starters
@davidclark34743 күн бұрын
They’re gonna play 3 straight against backup QBs. AOC is like 5-2 against Backup QBs
@itzmoney23903 күн бұрын
@@davidclark3474raiders not bout to win another game
@bellgreenrose3 күн бұрын
Keep the faith. Raiders will lose out.
@marvinwilks58933 күн бұрын
@@itzmoney2390i hope u right
@aaronpaulm2 күн бұрын
Yall loved winning meaningless games with DC 😂 keep that same energy
@kenknight1114Күн бұрын
Gabriel do not pass up on a another duck QB
@charlesrazo72463 күн бұрын
After 1984 the Raiders are still looking for a QB🏆🏆🏆
@winstonsyme58992 күн бұрын
Rich Gannon was good.
@charlesrazo72462 күн бұрын
@ the one that threw five interceptions three of them ran back for touchdowns in the Super Bowl. Oh yes , real good.
@rogergries53003 күн бұрын
They definitely aren't the Only QB's that can make us Better..... We still need an offensive line and a running back... To make any pick at QB worthwhile!!!!
@JDRSBUMPERSTICKERS2 күн бұрын
Trade back with giants or another top 10 team, Draft 1 of the 2 top Tackles. Rb in the 2nd round and Ole miss Qb in the 3rd. That extra pick or 2 will set us up nicely for the future.
@SIlverBlackTodayКүн бұрын
Not without a franchise QB
@JDRSBUMPERSTICKERSКүн бұрын
@SIlverBlackToday fix the line 1st, you need top tackles in this league the Ends ate to fast. The Ole miss Qb is good, his numbers are great against rough competition. He beat Georgia this year.
@Amber-ed3vd2 күн бұрын
You cant go wrong with shedeur good young kid in terms character
@rodney42482 күн бұрын
Which QB IS THE QUESTION. TOLESCO HAS CERTAIN QB HE LIKES. HERBERT, LUCK, MANNING ALL BIGGER STRONGER QB'S THAN WARD AND SANDERS. It will be interesting to see this play out
@LakerEric3 күн бұрын
Antonio Pierce greatest gift is winning meaningless games and that's FACT!
@ResplendentRaider3 күн бұрын
Meanwhile everyone was saying Nix wasn’t shit, and he looks pretty good thus far smh.
@Ramboo0003 күн бұрын
Kellen Moore would be a good fit with Shedeur Sanders
@aminjames92432 күн бұрын
Ben Johnson as head coach
@wesharris073 күн бұрын
I’m just tired of hearing AOC could be Tom Brady or Brock Purdy. He may be able to on another team but our team is not set up that way and we sure as hell don’t even have a play caller on offense. We’re not set up that way. Would it be nice? Yes. But it’s not how it is for us.
@marcusromero14323 күн бұрын
Russell Wilson was available for 1.5 million? Super bowl ring, some mobility, why didn't we re sign jacobs, roll the dice on Russell Wilson?? I'll tell why.... it was operation tank from June on, use getsy as a scapegoat!! I wouldn't be shocked if AP is back next season
@SIlverBlackToday3 күн бұрын
No, no, no! You need your franchise QB. Do you watch the NFL?
@OilFieldRaider83Күн бұрын
Raiders are screwed if AP comes back next season 🥴
@richardmartinez29102 күн бұрын
If we stick with Pierce we should trade for Joe Milton from the patriots
@jonlavale903 күн бұрын
Yeah, Sam probably would play for the Raiders if Brady recruited him
@zebra36943 күн бұрын
Klubnik and Cook are just as good as Sanders . Change the name on the jersey and he's a 2nd rounder at best. Listen to me now or quote me later the best qb in this class won't come out of the first round just like 2014.
@davidkingraiders72943 күн бұрын
To all you raider fans !!! I know that what I am about to say, is going to hurt the feelings of the egotistical narcissistic people that cannot ever admit that they are wrong about anything BUT !!!! If Derek Carr was such a bad quarterback ( that almost half of raider nation say) Then why, WHY, since Derek Carr’s departure have the raiders been pretty much dead last in offense and dismal QB play ???? Derek Carr with RAIDERS = top 10 to top 15 in offense every year Defense = 22 to 30th and the league every year I do not know what the defensive rankings for the Raiders is this year, but I can guarantee that the Raiders are last in offense The reason that I am saying all this is because Derek Carr will probably be available at the end of this year because the Saints have a salary cap issue Derek Carr has a QBR rating of 101 this year The Saints are 500 with him in( despite the fact that the Saints defense gave us three games in the final minutes of the game) If you got rid of Gardner Minshew, I’ll bet money that you could sign Derek Carr for nearly the same salary that you’re paying Gardner Minshew And then you would have an INSTANT fix at quarterback AND THEN ALSO DRAFT A QUARTERBACK IN THE DRAFT !!! And then let him develop into the role Like Jordan love !!! I look at Derek Carr, like people look at President Trump Nobody appreciated him the first time he was in office Then America got to see just exactly how things were without him And now that he is back in office again people ACTUALLY appreciate him this time !! I think Derek Carr was a pretty decent quarterback on a less than average Raiders team for the most part I’m not saying that he is was God But we all know why the Raiders lost all the time, and it was because the Defense could never hold a lead AND WE ALL KNOW THAT
@davidkingraiders72943 күн бұрын
Also, not only that, but if Derek Carr was that bad ( and try to remember the fact that the Raiders blew it big time against Arizona, the Los Angeles Rams, the Indianapolis Colts, and also could not hold a lead against the Steelers NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT DEREK CARR PLAYED MOST OF THE YEAR WITHOUT DARREN WALLER AND HUNTER RENFROW) Then, how come Jimmy Garoppolo? ( that went to a Super Bowl and another NFC championship against the Rams) That new Josh McDaniels system, like the back of his hand, did not last more than a couple of games without being benched Plus, he only played. I think five games the entire year, but lead the league in interceptions for 3/4 of the year !! So if Derek Carr was so bad that he had to be ran out of town , then how come, Jimmy Garoppolo was not able to be the savior And to make it even more of a joke, the Raiders thought that Gardner Minshew was going to be the answer 😂😂😂😂 SO RAIDER NATION ………….??
@davidkingraiders72943 күн бұрын
ALSO !!!! Before anybody decides to come at me with OH !! Derek Carr had nine years and only made the playoffs twice BS !!! He had three legitimate years with an actual team around him The first two years with Jack Del Rio (which were good until the stupid Colin Kaepernick kneel screwed everything up in the second year) And and the fourth year of Jon Gruden’s FOUR YEAR REBUILD where John Gruden got fired that year, and the Raiders still manage to make the playoffs If Mark Davis would have just done the right thing and kept Rich Versacio and actually added to the playoff team, like adding Davante Adams FIXING THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE OFFENSIVE LINE TO REPLACE ALEX LEATHERWOOD !!!! And may be signing middle linebacker Roquan Smith (one of the best linebackers in the NFL to cover Travis Kelce) who was available in free agency But instead, Mark Davis‘ messed everything up everything up AND NOW THE RAIDERS ONCE AGAIN, OR AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LEAGUE !!! THERE YOU HAVE IT !!
@CasonovaCorkClub3 күн бұрын
I'd like Mike Vrabel HC .. with his connection with Tom Brady I believe they can find a proper OC.
@jasonlockwood23903 күн бұрын
Anyone that thinks were just a qb away is way off doesn't matter what qb,running back, wr ,if we don't improve the oline it will be same as always
@R8erRay5103 күн бұрын
That's what the rest of the draft & 100mil in cap space is for, you'd only be spending one pick on a QB
@shawnstandiford60083 күн бұрын
Sanders or Ward are not gonna change our team. If they would’ve went in the draft last year, they would’ve been the eighth and ninth quarterback taken. It’s a week draft for quarterbacks.
@SIlverBlackToday3 күн бұрын
Flat out wrong. They both stayed because last year was a massively big QB class. They would have gone later in the draft. Now they go 1-3...it was the smart thing to do. Not hard to figure out.
@willcalhoun86153 күн бұрын
Gardner Menshew suck, Aiden O’Connell is a better baller, I’m still waiting for Pittsburgh to cut Justin Fields, he’s a greater talent than both.
@user-8k8kk8kk8k3 күн бұрын
TOM TELESCO MAKES THE FINAL DECISIONS LIKE JAYDEN DANIEL'S AND GETSY! TOM TELESCO SHOULD GO ALSO IF YOU GET RID OF AP!!!!!
@bellgreenrose3 күн бұрын
No that’s not true at all. AP even said he made the decision on hiring and firing Getsy. Jayden Daniels was never an option so that’s also not on Telesco.
@paulraider4l3 күн бұрын
@@bellgreenrosethe Raiders offered the commanders 3 first rounders and they declined that is not on Telesco
@marctorres27593 күн бұрын
@@bellgreenrose Tolesco hit on his 1st 3 picks, thats who they want to fire after 1 year. so much for stability😂
@bellgreenrose3 күн бұрын
@ Commanders declining has nothing to do with Telesco. Commanders were grabbing a QB regardless of the offer.
@GrandMasterJRA3 күн бұрын
@@bellgreenroseit’s because he’s an AP fan not a Raider fan lol shield above all! 🏴☠️
@jeffrhorer18113 күн бұрын
Hogwash, Sanders is the eighth rated college QB. Ward is the tenth rated college QB. We need #1,2 or 3 rated QB. No more reaches. No more thinking you're smarter than the rest of the league and reaching for small school QBs. Dillon Gabriel from #1 Oregon would be a lot better choice.
@SIlverBlackToday2 күн бұрын
LOL! Please post your source where he is rated 8th? Didn't I already respond to you with 10 links where he's 1 or 2 in all of them. Or are you just lying? Please post.
@SIlverBlackToday2 күн бұрын
Because you continue to say he's "8th rated" and provide ZERO source...I'll post again... Rated 1: www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/QB/1/2025 Rated 1: walterfootball.com/QBRankings2025.php Rated 3: www.pff.com/news/draft-2025-nfl-draft-rankings-quarterback Rated 2: www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/insider/story/_/id/41736211/ranking-top-2025-nfl-draft-quarterbacks-hot-board-team-fits Rated 2: www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/quarterbacks/ Rated 1: www.drafttek.com/2025-NFL-Draft-Position-Rankings/Top-College-QBs.asp Again, you're peddling BS...PROVE IT! he's not ranked 8th anywhere!
@marctorres2759Күн бұрын
Mark Davis is the one who said he wanted Shedeur on the Raiders.
@bobmopar25872 күн бұрын
We have far greater needs than a QB. This reminds me of just a year ago when all the “experts” claimed we had to hire AP as our next head coach. Pounding the table. Calling Mark Davis every name in the book. Invoking the Bisaccia saga as proof positive that AP was the guy. When people like me said he’s NOT the beguy we were haters and worse. We have a running QB. That’s what Minshew is. I could expand on this but it won’t matter because fan boi is throwing a tantrum for a QB class that will be as disappointing as the Trevor Lawrence draft. So we will draft a guy and then play him no matter how bad he sucks. And since he’s a first round pick we will drag this guy along, pay him big for his second contract and probably pay him an over priced third contract. BTDT. Do you ever learn?
@sharrieffsaalakhan32303 күн бұрын
The cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy of these Two Hosts is outright laughable. I would bury both of you in a debate on the AP issue. However when you're handcuffed by monetization concerns and currying favor with the organization, I should expect that. Smh
@SIlverBlackToday3 күн бұрын
Bring it. There is no defense of AP. All you have to do is watch football to understand this. "Currying favor with the organization"...that's laughable and just ridiculous. How exactly would that benefit us? What a tool!
@donmegatron793 күн бұрын
I'll be glad when this fake ass season is over 😂
@gwareb88423 күн бұрын
And still not get their QB and start another fake ass season with another backup.😂