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I loved the Onsra Black Carve Belt Drive Version 1 so much that I had to get a Version 2. So the jury is still out on if I like the board and the pros and cons of the board. It will take some testing and more rides to determine but so far, I think the board is great. We will see what the verdict is in the upcoming weeks. Stay tuned for more content with this board.
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[@myleslloyd8870]

i like your videos. they really have helped me understand the way these boards are in the real world. love the comparisons too. keep it up.

[@Ramatorix]

I am so glad they are able to help you out! Make sure you ask any questions you may have of give thoughts on video ideas! Take care.

[@princea1i3]

Again...awesome video!!! Exactly what i wanted to see...and hear. Amazed by how quiet the belt drives are.

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks so much! Glad to see I am making content that people want. I was really amazed on the lack of noise also. Take care and be safe!

[@esk_wp]

Awesome video as always. Spot on, honest, informative and, what i appreciate a lot, no fancy background music rubbish. For my needs, the Onsra BC boards are evolving in the right direction. Quieter, bigger battery and hopefully a longer range too. I am looking forward to see more of this board.

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks so much for the comment. I made a few of those types of videos in the beginning but realized I didn't even want to watch them lol. Stay tuned, I plan to give full honest reviews on both the challenger and the black carve. Thanks for the support bud!

[@Mark_Vanstone]

Love the video, clear and concise thanks for all the work you put in 👍

[@Ramatorix]

Thank you for all the support!!! Glad you liked the video. Take care and stay safe.

[@TrekPanda]

Thank you for the video! I know what one I'm going to get now.

[@Ramatorix]

Glad I could help. I hope what ever board you get its the perfect board for you! Thanks for the support.

[@mikesutton2618]

Great video bro, keep up all the hard work

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks Mike! Appericate the support bud.

[@MrStrandy17]

As always I love your video man

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks bud!

[@itsmatt3627]

I was on that team which like more the shorter deck of the Black Carve V1, but now that I've ridden multiple times with this longer deck on the DD V2, I think I couldn't go back on this shorter deck anymore. You'll see, you'll get use to it and you'll love it! Thanks for the video, good as always and I hope it will get warmer soon for you so you can fully test this new board. Cheers ✌🏻

[@Ramatorix]

I hope that is the case for me as well! Thanks for the comment!

[@Ramatorix]

Bro I just watched your hill test on the direct drive! Great video, i subscribed!

[@itsmatt3627]

@@Ramatorix thanks mate for the support 👌🏼

[@Ramatorix]

@@itsmatt3627 least I can do

[@johnglover4318]

Great start to hopefully more videos. Finally as quiet as the Evolve and most other boards, for me that Onsra 1 screams way too much. Take care

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks for the comment brother! Take care

[@TrekPanda]

Just got it. Snowboarding season was over and I figured I'd give it a try. The board is AMAZING! You can hear the motors but it's not annoying or obnoxious like I thought it might be. Definitely rideable in a neighborhood and you wont piss off the Jones's. I would keep a 14mm or 9/16 box end wrench handy cuz the truck's come pretty loose. This was my very first time even on an e-skate. Definitely found my new summer hobby. Ps Thanks for a video without music or voice track being played over so we could hear the sound!

[@Ramatorix]

That is awesome you tried the sport. I absolutely love snowboarding but font get to go as much as I would like. Like you, I am really glad I got into the eboards. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience.

[@azazellothbrok7132]

Onsra has the prettiest boards. Great video!

[@Ramatorix]

I agree that it looks awesome! Thanks for the support and comment!

[@kylorenthehusky2584]

Great comparison vid!

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks! I plan to do a bunch of videos once the new snow clears out lol. Thanks for your support.

[@kylorenthehusky2584]

@@Ramatorix I’ll be here to watch! What I like most about your videos is that you’re a suburbanite skater, like me. I live near a big city but electric skateboards and cars don’t mix. Take care ☺️ Val

[@Ramatorix]

@@kylorenthehusky2584 awesome! Thanks for the support to the channel! I appericate the comments on all the videos. What board do you own?

[@esk8unity]

yea, for me, the black carve 2 still has great agility, little better power.. breaks feel great. destroys hills. but i am only 150lbs... and yes, the challenger looks great with street wheels.. 🤙🏼🤙🏼 im gonna do the belt drive VS the stoke 🤟🏼🤟🏼. good stuff man

[@Ramatorix]

That is awesome. I think my weight plays a big part in my reviews. Cant wait to see the challenger stoke comparison.

[@onsrauk1858]

Nice Review thanks

[@PI37U]

Cant wait for my direct drive to arrive. For whatever reason the boards in Europe stock seem to ship later than for you guys in the US. I preordered right when bc2 was released and still nothing. Good for you lol, and a great video.

[@Ramatorix]

That sucks! I know the feeling of waiting and hoping your board shows up day in and day out. I really hope you get it soon. Thanks for the comment.

[@lucasflater7320]

Im still waiting for mine too in Canada... How long ago did you order it just wonder?

[@Ramatorix]

@@lucasflater7320 about 2 weeks for the belt drive to the US. I have heard customs is hit or miss though.

[@lucasflater7320]

@@Ramatorix thanks. that guy that commented above @PI37U he said that he ordered to Europe when BC2 was just announced and he still haven’t received it yet... i wonder when he order his? or if put other pay when was BC2 announced ?

[@Ramatorix]

@@lucasflater7320 ya its hard to say. I also think the customs and shipment to europe takes longer. I feel for you all because I hate waiting for a new board. The anxiety kills me lol. Let us know when you both get your boards and what you think of them.

[@MadDonJuan]

Very cool Bro. You have more Onsras than its ambassadors lol. Nice bro.

[@Ramatorix]

I know right. Lets see how this v2 does. Liked your last video bro

[@MadDonJuan]

@@Ramatorix Big thanks as always my Bro.

[@relaxation2380]

I got my Black carve 2 belt drive a week ago put over 70 miles on it already and love every minute of it I just put shred lights on it just to make it better lol. I have two gripes about it.. 1 the remote should last twice as long as the board and it doesn't they die at the same rate. 2 the fastest the board will go with the 115mm rubber wheels is 26mph.. not that you need more just I like having more if I need it.. neither of these are deal breakers for me at all I love this board but my friends need to understand I cant turn as tight as they can on their long boards

[@Ramatorix]

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and experience with this board. These type of comments is what makes this channel great!

[@BigChiefWiggles]

I bought a DD Onsra and put it on cloudwheels, it was pretty fun. Then a bought a midrange EUC and it completely blows esk8 away, like there is no comparison. I love your channel bit EUC is the future, it just is.

[@Ramatorix]

Thats the unicycle right. Those look crazy just not my cup of tea. Thanks for the comment and stay safe out there.

[@BigChiefWiggles]

@@Ramatorix I thought the same thing coming from esk8, but decided to try it anyway. It takes about a week to learn, but once you do the ride is significantly smoother because you have a large pneumatic tire, there is a whole lot more range, the acceleration, braking, stability, maneuverability and portability are all significantly better. There is a reason so many NY riders are switching from their high power boards to electric unicycles, its just better... I was skeptical, thought there is no way a single wheel can be more stable than a board on 4 wheels, but those new EUCs are hitting damn near highway speeds now and are stable doing it!

[@Ramatorix]

@@BigChiefWiggles i like watching the video. Its like skiing and snowboarding. Will never see me on some skis lol

[@BigChiefWiggles]

@@Ramatorix I know what you mean, I was about to spend the money and build a Trampa board to get the plush ride and snowboard feel. Then I bought a wheel and honestly havent looked back. You dont have a remote, you lean forward to speed up, lean back to slow down. Most of them have a huge battery so you can ride long distance, its impressive how much range you can get. And the torque, oh man the torque, having a huge motor size of bicycle wheel is definitely noticeable. Just try it, you will understand. As cliche as that may sound...

[@Ramatorix]

@@BigChiefWiggles i get what you are saying bro. I see some on the trails here every once in a while. They are hella fast that is for sure.

[@TLCampbell24]

Very informative video. Thank you. Looking to get my first board for casual comfortable rides. I will only drive it paved roads. Hoping for a board and tires that can handle bumps and cracks. Others have said this deck is stiff. Does that make for an uncomfortable ride? Others complain about double king pin trucks. Is there an advantage or disadvantage to having double king pin trucks? Lastly, is there an advantage to buying this board as opposed to a much less expensive board (like the Backfire G3) for riders with no skating experience. I'm trying to be as safe as possible. I'm willing to spend the extra money if the quality of the board will make a difference.

[@arnovanraemdonck2190]

You should compare it to eovan because they have the same motors ! Great video, bought an eovan just need to wait another 3 weeks

[@Ramatorix]

I think I will do a table comparison once I have some more time on the board. Thats awesome you got an eovan. I hate waiting for the boards lol.

[@byroncornuel4101]

I’m curious how you wear those wheels in? 70a are the same as the Eovan’s , I’m looking at the rf80a Eovan’s ? , but your 100% right 115 rubber wheels rock ,great torque,grips like gum,on a lighter side ,bet your happy winters nearly over ,summer’s on its way out over here down under ,appreciate you doing the chilli runs for the review.travel well ,stay safe as always

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks for the comment. I just ride on the wheels to wear them in lol. Thanks for sharing your opinion! Take care.

[@mongi4435]

Glade to see your riding again. Are you paying for these new boards?

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks, its good to be riding again. Yes almost all my boards I have paid for. Sometimes I pay full price and others I try to work a discount.

[@jonassvensson1819]

The ESC of the Evolve puts out a lot more current initially which the HW will not regardless of gearing but sure, good enough acceleration. On my commutes the old Onsra would be much too loud so this is an improvement. The Challenger should bring more information about the DD especially with 97 mm wheels giving you more torque but the motors even closer to the ground. Hopefully the range of the Onsra 2 is good enough for you to keep the rubber wheels on. Look forward to more.

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks for the comment bud! And all the info. I am really looking forward to testing both of these boards.

[@ONSRA]

You have to try 115mm Wheels on the Evolve and then try an acceleration comparison 😉 But we can promise.. no we're not gonna say it 😉

[@Ramatorix]

This is true, i am comparing 115mm wheels to 105. Dont worry I will throw the 105mm on the onsra and give it a try.

[@Ramatorix]

@@hopeless2390 lol, up a hill it will. I might have to come up with a test for this now. Just do a timed run one a flat surface with the same wheels and pulleys.

[@byroncornuel4101]

Interesting that does sound like a challenge Fabi ,what are you putting on the table ?i do kind of agree with you ,though.about these 115 So will the wager be? 6 naked dancing girls & a jacuzzi of beer on. The evolve ore the onsra mark 2?

[@sebastiancaballeromarquez1354]

great video man! What's the real life range on this fella? thanks

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks for the comment. Go to my channel and go to play list. I have all the bords I have tested seperated into playlists. I weight 200 lbs. Here is the video on the range. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYesl2iveauSqtU

[@Burbs1976]

Great video mate. I’m tossing up either that model or an all terrain. I’m not sure if I need the hassle of flat tires etc. my commute to work is 7km. Do you get sore feet after a long time riding these wheels?

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks for the comment. I do not much care for a/t tires because of the possibility of flats. My feet and knee get sore after about 30 miles but thats on any wheels.

[@Burbs1976]

@@Ramatorix I’m starting to lean towards the rubber wheels. This will be my first skateboard

[@Ramatorix]

@@Burbs1976 i like the rubber wheels but they reduce the range by about 40%. I run cloudwheels so I get the comfort and the range. Good luck with your decision and purchase bud. Stay safe

[@Burbs1976]

@@Ramatorix thanks for the info. My commute to work is about 9km each way so I presume, going on your review I would get that range also ( I’m roughly the same weight) apart from the better range what are the pros and cons with cloud wheels and which size do you recommend. Sorry I’m new at researching all the info

[@Ramatorix]

@@Burbs1976 i got over 20 miles on the black crave v2 with rubber wheels so you should be fine on range. The only benefit of the cloudwheels over rubber is the range. About 10 more miles on this board. I like the 105mm way more than the 120mm. I am not a top speed rider, and that is what the 120mm are better at. The 105 are lower to the ground and feel more stable. No worries about the questions thats why I started the channel. There are discount codes in the description if you decide on the onsra. Good luck

[@Music-pq8cm]

I’m wondering what the BC2 would be like with the Torque Boards 110mm 72A PU wheels ... the 45t wheel pulley that comes with the BC2 might work with those wheels. Maybe a little faster on acceleration and perhaps a little more range?

[@Ramatorix]

There are so many combos you can go with. If you end up trying it please let us know what you think.

[@BlankofMaterial]

interesting where they placed them screws. The designer in me wants them all spaced equally, and there's this big gap in the middle. You'd think that if the deck flexed the screws that would be subject to the least amount of lateral movement would be those in the middle.

[@Ramatorix]

From my experience its the screws on the end that take the beating because when the deck flexes down it wants to pull up the ends. I think they did not want the screws and inserts to show on the top so left the gap in the center. I am with you, my OCD is like, ok lets put 1 more screw on each side lol.

[@steveorsini9920]

I got my black carve 2 a week or so ago its my new favorite board its amazing

[@steveorsini9920]

can't wait to see that 97 wheel vid on the challenger

[@Ramatorix]

@@steveorsini9920 thanks for the comments and sharing your experience! I stand by the comment, its not the videos that make this channel great its all the interactions from the viewers. Thanks so much, take care and be safe.

[@johnd9357]

Hey Steve, just got my belt BC2 about that long ago. Curious what wheels you’re using? I’m having some issues with my BC2. Tried to run the evolve pulleys so I could use cloud wheels like everyone else does, but they don’t work. Got the onsra metal abec pulleys and they also have issues. Sort of bummed to be honest. Curious what wheel/pulley combo you’re using?

[@Ramatorix]

@@johnd9357 what issues are you having with the onsra pulleys?

[@johnd9357]

@@Ramatorix well, a few to be honest. One issue I’d have to show you in video, because I’m not quite sure how to quickly articulate that issue. But the other issues are that the bearings just fall out of the pulleys, the cloud wheels don’t fit snugly - they actually can wiggle back and forth quite a bit, and the other issue which is related to the belt. I can make a very short video to show what I mean if you’re interested. These metal pulleys are a miss, so far. :(

[@Berettadv]

Fantastic video! I am looking to buy my first board and I've narrowed it down to either the Onsra Black Carve 2 Dual Belt or the Direct Drive. I am curious which system would be more reliable for long-term use (I know neither has been out that long) and was wondering if you or anyone could give me any advice, it would mean a lot!

[@Ramatorix]

So if the main factor you are looking at is longevity then I suggest the direct drive. How much do you weigh? Will you be wanting to run all terrain wheels? Will you be going up a bunch of hills? How fast do you want the top speed?

[@Ramatorix]

Here is a my last video of the direct drive. Also look at my play lists on the channel and look in the direct drive folder. The direct drive system is the same on the bc1, bc2, and the challenger. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIKqeoiKm8yhhbM

[@Berettadv]

@@Ramatorix Thank you!!! I weigh 160-165 lbs depending on the day so I also think the direct drive will suit me better. I am probably not going all-terrain often but I do like the concept of having flexibility!

[@Ramatorix]

@@Berettadv so you are good to go on the weight. You should really like the direct drive. You need to check to see if you can run a/t on the direct drive. I do not think you can but I may be wrong. Good luck and let us know what you choose.

[@Ramatorix]

@@Berettadv also look in the comments of the videos. You will find just as much info if not more in the comments from other people who have experience.

[@codyhilburn9203]

Would you recommend this board for a Thicc Boi like me?

[@TLCampbell24]

Is this board still maneuverable after you tighten the trucks enough to eliminate wobbling?

[@Ramatorix]

Yes, watch my video after I put the riptide bushings on it. I love this board.

[@TLCampbell24]

@@Ramatorix Thank you for your response. I weigh 165 pounds. I'm about to buy this. I just need to know: (1) Other reviewers describe the deck as stiff. Is it comfortable riding over rough roads and sidewalks? (2) Is it possible to eliminate wobbling given it's a DKP, or will I just have to learn how to deal with the wobbling?

[@Ramatorix]

@@TLCampbell24 the deck is stiff, but i like it the way it is. It has some flex on the nose and tail but with the rubber or cloudwheels i think its comfortable. You will have to get used to dkt, at high speed every board I have been on with dkt will become unstable. Never had an issue at 25mph or below. I run my trucks really loose because i like carving more than going fast. I have playlists of the black carve v1 and v2 on my channel. Probably about 20 videos that will give you a good idea if this board is right for you.

[@briancoley788]

Yeah I have a board that will beat the Evolve off the line lol.. big 6374 motors 12s6p battery ! Not a problem!

[@Ramatorix]

I am guessing this is a diy?

[@CubeTycoon]

Nice

[@Ramatorix]

Thanks J for the support!

[@ShawnZiemba]

I'm so torn between this board and trying the Challenger... If I could adjust the brakes through the controller, that would be nice. I was around 200-205 when I had my Boosted Dual+ & Stealth, and both had amazing brakes. I lost 30lbs during the Beer Bug event lol So now, possibly, extra powerful brakes arent as needed for me as before. idk...

[@Ramatorix]

I know with me all my belt drive board I put 105mm wheels and 40 or 45t pulleys and the brakes are strong enough. Its when I go small pulleys and big wheels that I feel like the boards lack in acceleration and braking. This is why I prefer belt drive so I can change the ratio.

[@ShawnZiemba]

@@Ramatorix Yup, makes sense. Do you know when the belt drive Challenger is available to the public? I might just get that one and give it a try.

[@Ramatorix]

@@ShawnZiemba i am not sure, i think fabi said in the next few months.

[@johanandersson3952]

If I am to ride a completely stiff board I see no reason for it being a wood mix with external enclosure. I woulds much rather have a carbon fiber deck if it is to be stiff. Stronger, lighter, internal battery and no paint chipping. Will follow your upcoming videos on this one though.

[@Ramatorix]

I 100% see your point. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Take care and stay safe.

[@kevinchan4951]

Nice matte finish. No motor guard ?

[@Ramatorix]

No, i dont get them because I dont lean my boards up where the the motors contact the ground. I am not sure if onsra even offers them.

[@Olla_FN]

Bash guards come out soon far as i no

[@kevinchan4951]

Would you get a bkb duo board build to compare the torque and loudness? I just think if I paid such money , I would not want to have to build my own board.

[@Ramatorix]

Do you have link?

[@Ramatorix]

I found it.

[@Ramatorix]

I wont but only because I do want to do a diy project but will want a stiffer deck with double kingpin trucks. I know there is still a lot of interest in the boosted style boards and I am willing to review a few but that is an expensive kit for the type of board. I really appericate you asking and maybe down the road i will be able to do things like this but right now I just cant afford it.

[@Music-pq8cm]

Hard to watch the video as I wait for my BC2 ... I believe limited battery availability is delaying shipment. Can’t wait to get mine

[@Ramatorix]

Waiting always sucks lol. I have heard the battery shortage is causing issues with a bunch of companies.

[@Music-pq8cm]

@@Ramatorix yeah makes sense ... the BC2 seems to be getting really good reviews for boards at its price point. Hopefully no more than 3 more weeks to wait.

[@Ramatorix]

@@Music-pq8cm i know i really like mine. Let us know what you think once you get it.

[@Music-pq8cm]

Just under a month and still hasn’t shipped 🤔. No bueno

[@dgor.1266]

How is the torque, compared to BCv1, evolve, eovan

[@Ramatorix]

They are all pretty close to the same. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXW3kqp4Zqx5abM

[@steveorsini9920]

My black carve 2 just died today full charge 2 miles in board cuts off won’t turn back on or charge. Super disappointed had to kick it all the way home took forever with the belt drive.

[@Ramatorix]

Oh no, what the heck. Do you have any idea what happened

[@steveorsini9920]

@@Ramatorix nope literally just cut all power said low battery then zero and dead won’t do anything

[@Ramatorix]

@@steveorsini9920 what the f

[@Ramatorix]

I am guessing you reached out to onsra

[@steveorsini9920]

Waiting for a response I’ll keep u posted

[@BlankofMaterial]

oh man, a fortunate few can receive a new package and NOT be certain which board it is.

[@Ramatorix]

Ya after scraping my way through life for over 20 years I am really blessed to be where I am. Thanks for the comment brother, take care and be safe

[@dgor.1266]

Whats the max speed with the Black Carve V2 Belt drive

[@Ramatorix]

Depends on the size of wheels and pulleys. Stock it comes with 115mm wheels and 45t pulleys. People have said max speed about 26mph. You get 40t pulleys and 120mm wheels and you should be around 30 mph. Hope this helps

[@soundchannel]

Are you getting the DD V2?

[@Ramatorix]

Probably not. I have learned the belt drives are better for my weight, area, and riding style. From my understanding the dd is the same as v1 so the big differences will be deck and battery. So if you watch the v2 belt drive you should be able to know what to expect. Hope this helps. Take care.

[@mguevara1214]

Any one has a maintenance video????

[@sunilk_89]

How do I decide between direct drive and belt drive? I want to get the black carve 2, but can't decide on the type of motor. Please advise

[@Ramatorix]

How much do you weight? What wheels do you want to run? Where you live are there hills or is it flat?

[@sunilk_89]

@@Ramatorix I weigh 190 pounds. I have no idea on what type of wheels to get. This would be my first electric skateboard with no previous skateboarding experience. I have a hilly terrain with good roads. I'm totally confused.

[@Ramatorix]

@@sunilk_89 for me it is a supper easy decision. The direct drive are great for people in flat area, want to stay on street wheels, and weight under about 170lbs. They are quiet and have plenty of power for those conditions. But for hills and a heavier rider it is a little under powered. I weight 210 and have hills where I ride. I think the direct driver would be great starting out but I think you might grow out of it after a few months. As you get better at riding you will probably want more power than the direct drive can offer. If you ask me for my suggestion I think you should go with belt drive. With belt drive you can change the gearing later to suite your riding style. If you want more top speed you can go with bigger wheels and smaller pulleys, want more torque go with smaller wheels and bigger pulleys. For my weight and area my favorite combo is 105mm cloudwheels with 45t pulleys. PU wheels and cloudwheels will also give you a lot more range than the 115 rubber wheels. Go onto my channel and look under playlists. Look at the 3 playlists, onsra belt drive, onsra direct drive, onsrsa belt drive V2. There is a lot of info in all of those videos that will help you out. Dont get hung up on v1 or v2, the videos will help with direct drive or belt drive. Belt drive does make more noise and has a little more maintenance though. Feel free to ask questions. Everyone is different and all I can give is my experience and opinion but this may help you some.

[@sunilk_89]

@@Ramatorix Thank you so much for the advice. I think I will get the belt drive then. Will watch the videos in your play list. Onsra black carve or exway atlas? What would you choose?

[@Ramatorix]

@@sunilk_89 so you will see in my videos that I try to be 100% honest. With that said I have not rode the exway. This is because I can not get exway to answer my emails or dm. For for me its onsra hands down. They have always been responsive and treated everyone I know of well. As far as which board is better I do not know because I have not had the chance to ride the exway. The onsra black carve v2 is my favorite board I own and with their customer service I will stick with them lol. But like I tell everyone, only you can decide which board is best for you. Good luck with the decision.

[@mynameismikelikeeveryoneel8459]

Ok. BC2 vs BC1 hill climb. Go ☺️

[@Ramatorix]

Will do.

[@ocfwrld9623]

Idk one person that likes the size of the v1 beside fabi

[@Ramatorix]

I did lol, i loved the shorter deck but then again i rarely go over 20mph so i didnt have to deal the lack of stability with a short deck.

[@ocfwrld9623]

@@Ramatorix see i got the onsra for speed...thats why I put it on a backfire ranger deck about 7 months ago

[@Ramatorix]

@@ocfwrld9623 ya, I hit 30mph on the v1 and almost died lol. I understand the speed riders need the longer deck. You will like this one then.

[@ocfwrld9623]

@@Ramatorix bro i have the v1 before the onsra brand truck. Got it to 36 mph had to bail...knees never looked the same 😔 rip to my knee gars lol

[@Ramatorix]

@@ocfwrld9623 holly shit dude. Nope, not for me lol. I am old and beat up, my knees hurt just after a ride lol. Going 36mph I can see why you want a stable longer deck hahahaha

[@ttran0259]

Onsra is more expensive than evolve now.

[@Ramatorix]

This is true. So in your opinion is the onsra worth the extra price?

[@bmrbca3658]

@@Ramatorix For some. There are just so many good boards (street and AT) in the $650 to $1200 range it's hard to justify ~50% more. Time will tell.

[@Ramatorix]

@@bmrbca3658 i completely understand that!!! I have noticed the big expense of most of the boards are the battery. If you were to buy a board right now what would you get?

[@esk8unity]

wait until u ride both. u will understand the value

[@lucasflater7320]

From what i know about evolve gtr... it doesn’t even come close to BlackCarve version1... forget about version 2... The only board that i would consider buying as my 2nd board would be Backfire Zealot S... Evolve is in the past now

[@MrStrandy17]

My DIY will murder the evovle....

[@Ramatorix]

Bro, you have to send me some specs and links. So Shawn replaced the verreal 14ah battery with the 20AH. So now we have a 14ah just sitting there. What better excuse to do a DIY. But I have no idea where to start. Feel free to dm me on instagram if you would not mind sharing your secrets lol.

[@MrStrandy17]

@@Ramatorix bro I would love to show you. I'm actually hopefully going to be moving out to Denver area soon. If a new job offer. But before that I'm super down to jump on a call or something like that or even just email me.

[@MrStrandy17]

@@Ramatorix I do not have Instagram!

[@testerchannel4970]

@@MrStrandy17 can you tell me too? I want to build an all terrain board that can go 25-35 miles range with AT wheels. Is this possible!