Onyx RCR - Pros & Cons // 2023

#onyxrcr #ebike #electricbike
what i dislike about the bike and what i like about it.
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[@GreyBirdie]

Thank you for this! This is one of the bikes I'm interested in getting and it's nice to know some of the more detailed features as well as the pros/cons.

[@MrCentralDriver]

your welcome.

[@FoundationsofPause]

@@MrCentralDriver I've read on facebook that adjusting the bolts on the rear wheel will center it. A lot of what you conned about has simple fixes. The kickstand is meant to have the ground do that, not your inside foot. Headlamp is bright AF, some age will do it some good. The seat can be moved back and retightened allowing the battery cover to freely come backward. To make the speedometer match gps use setting "00164" [google it]

[@percivalhowell7516]

Thx f/posting- the crookedness was noticeable. Good to know -

[@juanitaserra6653]

Thank You for this video I will be addressing these issues with Onyx for my order before shipping I paid a lot and I demand a flawless product for what I paid .

[@budwhite9781]

Sounds to me like they need to get their fit and finish up to par with the potential of this ebike. Good video again.

[@MrCentralDriver]

Yeah I feel like they’ve had these issues for years. I understand there’s always going to be a little inconsistent on these bikes because they’re all handmade but I think what happens is that they get their parts from a bunch of different manufacturers and sometimes things don’t all lineup or go together perfectly and that’s why the wood cover has a gap on some and seat issues and surprisingly the rear wheel and sway arm is an issue on some of these bikes that recently got made. But it’s cool that they want to fix the issues it just sucks that these issues keep popping up for people everywhere. Because he’s bikes are expensive but regardless they’re super fun

[@MrInstag8tor]

That bent frame made up my mind, right before I pulled the trigger.

[@obeii1805]

What’s the difference between the 22 and 21 model

[@MrCentralDriver]

No idea

[@joeking433]

It's good they did that with the key. It keeps it tight so it doesn't rattle.

[@hattmelm7218]

Sur Ron all day ! unless you live in the city or something idk. ive crashed mine 100 times some were pretty bad but it always gets up and takes me home. bent peddles and all. great video btw :)

[@marshall5mith]

Thanks for this! Seems like most of those problems should solved with future versions of the bike.

[@fender1000100]

For the money you are paying for this bike. This is BASIC stuff that should be up to par from the get go. If I am paying a sum that could buy me 3 Fiido M1 pros. Which is an awesome ebike. I would expect it to be perfect.

[@Luca-xv3oy]

I’m 13 and whenever I get pulled over on this thing I just put it in eco and they let me go

[@MrCentralDriver]

Nice!!

[@ezl8002]

The offset on the rear wheel is caused by the added spacer which was incorporated in the later models. Might be able to grind down the left side spacer and add washers to the right side dropout as long as the pedal chain doesn't get misaligned.

[@Gumsandals]

For the money you pay, you shouldn't have to adjust anything.

[@MrRyanmcmahon]

Which is more comfortable the sur -ron or the rcr (street riding)?

[@MrCentralDriver]

Sur ron hands down all day

[@MrRyanmcmahon]

@@MrCentralDriver Thank you. Much appreciated. Do you have to register the sur ron to ride on the street?

[@Fifamobilelegend631]

Directly to the point review, just a great day for me after knowing all of these things.

[@MrCentralDriver]

thanks

[@Chris_Heidman]

dude. thank you so much for making this vid. im about to click purchase and deciding between the onyx and the Huck. i think the Huck stinger 3000 might be the winner. really, thank you so much for an honest review

[@MrCentralDriver]

no problem. I looked into those too. They both share very similar DNA. I liked the look on the onyx more personally. Will update my review as onyx handles the issues on my bike.

[@cooperfrominterstellar921]

Man thanks for telling all these stuff, I really have been needing to know about this.

[@wolflopez3268]

Excellent review !

[@HonestMike]

DUDE!!! I just got my Onyx 2 weeks ago! I made a vid too with the issues you mentioned!!! Mine is a 1st Gen Indigogo version. Thought they would have fixed all these issues by now! Battery box / fork hitting is not good... affects your turning radius @_@ Honest²

[@therandomvlogs]

Great vid! Nice to see a full hands on of what to possibly expect with QC. 👍🏼

[@zenluvsyou2513]

What features do you choose for adding turn signals

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

All pros no cons best ebike on the market hands down

[@mass67]

You have made excellent use of technology and you have done a great job sir.

[@neo57611]

Great tips! Thanks

[@BillOweninOttawa]

Batteries only have so much power. The bigger and fatter your tires the slower you will go. They reduce range too. And for what benefit? Looks?

[@MrInstag8tor]

Does that factory have QC?

[@Anthony-kw8hh]

very awesome you have made a workshop very nice i like the work Have good experience in motorcycle workshop

[@loudiamond]

Oof sorry about the crooked rear wheel, are they going to charge you to fix that? And also did you not notice it at first upon receiving the bike when delivered or did you inspect it?

[@SD_RIDERZ]

Just picked up my onyx today. Was thinking of taking the front fender off as well. Cant wait to ride this weekend.

[@MrCentralDriver]

goodluck buddy have fun! how was your rear alignment on yours?

[@allongold]

If you had to choose between the onyx and the surron, which would you go with? I’m debating between these 2

[@MrCentralDriver]

Sur ron with pedals. Less headaches and more upgradable

[@kaloosh2639]

Dude could you do a bit more of a indepth of maybe the battery type they are using?✌this video was already pretty descriptive already though🌊 or maybe some instagram posts on it

[@sleepyheadfpv1507]

I commute on a super73 ZX. But man I really want one of these. I just don’t know if I’ll ever be able to shell out that much money for one.

[@MrCentralDriver]

I might be selling mine. Video going live in 30mins on my onyx

[@lyonheart4099]

Hi can you do a review on the cab motor works recon

[@MrCentralDriver]

I wish I could but that’s an expensive bike to buy to put out a review.

[@zinknot]

Made in the USA doesn't mean what it used to. I'm still tempted to buy this bike though.

[@MrCentralDriver]

Great bike. Just some flaws.

[@michaelnavarette7200]

Interesting, I’ve already bought the bike. Kinda wish I watched this video before.

[@gameaddict6969]

Did you get the standard suspension or the shrty type of suspension? they have 2 choices.

[@mackmccord3743]

How is that Domino throttle working out for you with using the break and slowing down? It just seems like being able to turn the whole handle will get in the way or become dangerous when traveling at higher speeds. Just asking because it does seem like a good option

[@zenluvsyou2513]

What option do you choose for adding turn signals

[@larransson6589]

Indicators

[@HKnK8]

Can only have one. Rcr or surron x?

[@MrCentralDriver]

Sur ron for my riding style

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

Please learn more about ebikes and the difference between them

[@ezl8002]

You did a real good job reviewing this bike! I bet it doesn't pedal as bad as my Predator 212cc bike which I have pedals on it to keep from being harassed by the cops and I wouldn't even think about putting a lot of power to it on the street since it is way faster than the GPS speedometer on acceleration updates. I have pedaled the thing for about 1/2 mile and it will give you a workout. Would the regenerative braking system was partially engaged while pedaling it which would cause it to pedal hard? Thanks for your review!

[@mrlucky2650]

wow Motorcycle is very good you have good talent you good about motorcycle

[@Aulann623]

Great video! I was thinking about getting this but I have a question. I am about 6foot 4 inches and weigh about 320lbs Do you think this bike would be good for someone like me?

[@MrCentralDriver]

The standard height yeah.

[@_taxman_]

Do you prefer the onyx or the Sur ron? Either for on or off road?

[@MrCentralDriver]

Sur ron because the weight.

[@justanother106]

Thank for the review, did onyx reply to the rear wheel off centered?

[@MrCentralDriver]

Yea they want me to bring it down to the headquarters to work on it to fix it. Which is great. But I have no way of getting the bike nor time right now.

[@justanother106]

Ok great at least there's a fix, im in NYC so I'm praying 🙏 most of these issues you mentioned are corrected before it ships, thanks again for the video

[@MrCentralDriver]

@@justanother106 Just give it a quick look over on everything I talked about in the video before you sign for it because if you’re not happy with it you can always refuse delivery

[@justanother106]

@@MrCentralDriver I sure will, I was told to note down everything wrong with the bike on the delivery slip before signing, but videos like yours give us good location to start looking.... thanks again

[@bobm21]

I noticed similar fit and finish issues on my RCR shorty but keep in mind its not made in japan, all in all the thing is fun and fast.

[@MrCentralDriver]

Very fun and fast. I love it. But for 5k it should be a bit more perfect on arrival.

[@bobm21]

@@MrCentralDriver I agree and at lest give us a OYNX t-shirt.

[@fastfo4711]

Hi, great review any updates from this video on issues or fixes?

[@MrCentralDriver]

I fixed everything myself. The company never got back to me after this issue

[@47f0]

I am truly missing it. Isn't this about twice the price of the Ola S1 Sro? Unless you have some need to not register (hence the pedals that aren't really usable) the bike, it seems like it's a little bit pricey compared to some of the true electric scooters.

[@MrCentralDriver]

Very pricey but doing 50mph is cool with no registration or insurance

[@chrisMc1972]

What do you like better the the onyx or the SurRo

[@MrCentralDriver]

Sur ron for modifications and going fast. . Onyx for peace and quite if you plan on riding off-road a lot do you not get the Onyx it is not a good bike to go off Road.

[@chrisMc1972]

@@MrCentralDriver which of the two is better built?

[@chrisMc1972]

@@MrCentralDriver also what's the fastest you've gone on both?

[@agsmisaal8854]

This motorcycle is beautifully made Is wood also used in it?

[@MrCentralDriver]

no. just the battery cover is wood

[@silverandashes6402]

at 1:05 Those welds on the swing arm look super sketch Especially if this is hand welded. I hope they use a thicker material for the swing arm and improve the welds. Very interested in this bike though.

[@FromGuiriga]

Thank you.

[@Tom-pp4iv]

I thought they advertised with LED lights on the frame body?

[@MrCentralDriver]

no thats a mod some people do. Only LEDS it comes with is for turn signals if you add it on as an option

[@jerry7415]

I was just far from here focus on my own way but after a while I found this video.

[@chadslice2673]

Nice review! Man those flaws you pointed out are annoying. ONYX might be going out of business, according to their website . Either that or they got hacked.

[@MrCentralDriver]

still waiting on a statement from onyx on wtf happened

[@jaxon7277]

They still going strong!!!

[@dasshape00]

4 the cost why should we have to do all those Lil things. It should be right

[@startuptrevor]

I'm brand new to ebikes and I'm looking into getting the RCR. Before looking into this I was wanting to get a dirt bike (which I've also never owned before). I'm thinking I want an ebike that is capable enough to function like a dirt bike with trail riding/off roading, but that I can also claim is just an ebike when riding around the city. Would you say this is a pretty good, capable alternative to a dirt bike and/or do you have a different bike recommendation for that?

[@MrCentralDriver]

This bike doesn’t work great for dirt. It’s to heavy at 150lbs. It’s weight is more top heavy also. Has great torque to go anywhere but do not try to jump this bike or bash it to hard. Seen people bend wheels and break spokes

[@startuptrevor]

@@MrCentralDriver Gotcha, that's good to know. Thanks for the info!

[@Sofia-tx5uu]

Starting off video this hundred different but right there's gossip furious it's so amazing

[@algersonvincent]

Good ole American build quality

[@josephdeleoz1961]

do you need a license for it?

[@MrCentralDriver]

No. Just a helmet

[@KeithsJourney]

How tall are you? Standard or shorty?

[@MrCentralDriver]

5.10 and mines standard. No issues at all.

[@96andy420]

❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢

[@gameaddict6969]

And did it come with a title?

[@MrCentralDriver]

MCO paperwork.

[@SHSPVR]

Did you ever get a response from Onyx about the flickering light because that should be normal it has to do with your camera shutter speeds, to me this bike is a bit way overpriced with the amount of flaws it have especially if with the rear swing I'm not lining up with the rear Fender or the frame is not 100% straight with everything, now As for the wood cover there's really not much you can do about that because of moisture which causes wood to do really funky things

[@MrCentralDriver]

No you can see that flickering in person. The first week it got water in the housing too. They said they wanted a video. I sent them one but then at the time they went out of business and came back a month later

[@SHSPVR]

@@MrCentralDriver I see so you are getting and internal shorting that was causing the flickering with water in housing that not good I take the light and rotated 180 degrees the in case there a vent port that is facing up when it should be facing down so the moisture being pull in by the heat and as cool down it can back drain out kind of odd that not a sealed LED light

[@ghulam4689]

Actually it is so cute

[@marktroup2978]

If you drop the bike on the drive side, the first thing to go won’t be the brake lever. It will be the janky plastic kill/mode switch. Just replace that piece of garbage right away and install a Domino throttle.

[@malikon6953]

whoa, the fact so much of it isn't centered or aligned is very concerning for such an expensive bike.

[@laryangel4082]

Nice

[@fsecofficial]

For what they charge for those bikes they need to send you a new one that’s unacceptable alignment. I would tell them to come get that thing.

[@MrCentralDriver]

They went out of business 2-3 weeks after mine arrived and couldn’t get ahold of anybody.

[@WeThePpleForThePple]

For the money this company is getting for this bike, all the flaws shown in this video shouldn't exist. Some of them are just plain ridiculous, such as the tire not lining up with the fender....and the seat being out of line with the battery compartment! These are really obvious things that separate the men from the boys in terms of (the look of), excellence.....and there are more, as you know if you've seen this video. It seems to me that perfection should be the goal for ANY company to strive for, especially if they're charging top of the line prices, as this company is. In my opinion, this bike, unfortunately, misses that mark by far too much.

[@gayani4092]

You have made a very good motorcycle, have good experience, have got important things from you,

[@DannyFlores-pk9hs]

It’s a overprice electric bike. They’re slapping those things together faster than they can imagine in China it’s all about the money I saw one from a distance it looks small he sat there and just watched me right away. Thanks for the video. If I ever buy one I’m gonna examine it👀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

It is so incredibly easy to fix the issue with the fender and the back tire not lining up correctly you really do need to consider talking to people that know about these before you put out these videos you're making it seem as though it's an issue with the bike and in reality it's an issue with whoever put together the bike all it means is for the washers on one side to be evened out on the other side please get in contact with some of the onyx people to figure these things out before doing more promotion it really doesn't seem like you know exactly what you're talking about with this thing and we can fix that give you the information you need so that way you're out riding safer with more knowledge on the bike

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

Why talk about the light before talking to onyx to find out that you most likely hit a bump to hard and knocked something loose tighten the connection and the housing and no blinking light

[@AVC93]

Man. Too many small issues. But so far...mine has been tank!

[@MrCentralDriver]

That’s good. Mine still gets me around no problem. I fixed all the problems except the rear tire alignment. I’m most likely gonna get rid of mine tho.

[@benvernick]

Some of these I could live with, but the panel gaps that’s just shoddy workmanship and poor quality control especially for an ebike that is one of the most expensive you can buy and with a subpar warranty. In fact the warranty is the only reason I won’t buy it, if a company believes in its quality why not stand behind it with a real warranty?

[@MrCentralDriver]

It used to be a year. Now it’s 30 days

[@benvernick]

@@MrCentralDriver exactly! Same with Monday Motorbikes Gen-7 although I don’t think you can buy one anymore. It used to just be these three as the only ones making “light” motorcycles, and Oynx and Monday are on thin ice for two reasons. The competition has caught up, and more importantly Huck’s is the only one that will provide a VIN, I emailed them about it and they said absolutely they could and would provide one. Having a VIN not only allows you to register it but also can qualify it for insurance coverage and most importantly…,tax breaks and incentives. I live in PA and I can get a $1500 “alternative fuel Grant “ just from my state. That’s cash….not a tax credit. That’s a lot of money! And you just know that sooner or later someone is going to get sued and it’s going to change the whole industry. Why do you think bike and motorcycle repair shops won’t touch these things? By providing VIN numbers Huck’s is doing the smart thing. They can protect themselves and there customers by providing VIN’s. It allows the owner freedom to cover it how they wish. Moped, scooter, motorcycle, etc. Oynx is just shady….

[@benvernick]

@@MrCentralDriver there are some awesome new ones coming out soon. Here is just one example of one to keep your eye on…. ristrettoelectric.com/shop-303-fs

[@richardpruitt8515]

Richard Pruitt

[@pellouch]

Seems like their manufacturing quality control is not very good. I wonder if other people are seeing the same defects or if they are seeing other ones. Just seems like slopping construction.

[@colinriches1519]

Wouldn't ride that quick without sorting that wheel alignment out. Death trap.

[@MrCentralDriver]

it’s been fine for the last 600 miles. just doesn’t look nice what so ever from behind since nothing lines up

[@BoltRunner]

Yeah so the mph is calibrated for street tires

[@MrCentralDriver]

Correct. It’s still off but instead of 6-8mph off it’s off by 4-6mph. Street tires also help pickup 1-2mph extra.

[@motorsport2k]

Man that’s a lot of frekin issues. Cmon onyx

[@animeightbit9467]

Can I have this bike? Please?

[@MrCentralDriver]

onyxmotorbikes.com

[@stonebarrow5165]

Fancy paying £4000. 00 n u say change shock's in that case i wouldn't buy it in 1st place 💋 UK 💋💯👍 I'd send it back 💯👍💋

[@MorelliMedia]

Would you have bought it if you saw this video first?

[@barelytrine]

The only thing going for this bike is speed. The attention to detail is very poor, rather get an AR.

[@jaythomas5521]

How could you pay 4500 now 5600 for a ebike that only goes 48 mph🧐🤨🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@andrewlaughbon9468]

Your flickering I'm willing to bet is by design . Almost all motorcycles have it built in. This is to act as a safety feature in warning to other drivers at night.

[@MrCentralDriver]

It honestly could be but when I did contact onyxs about it they said that they were most likely going to send me out a new headlight I just had to get footage of the headlight flickering. It looks similar to HID bulbs on a car that doesn’t have a quality Ballist

[@camerawheel]

you paid 5k for a bike that is meh---no QC, I mean it is nice from afar, but yeah if it has all those issues, yeah I don't know if it is worth that much money.

[@ridesharebiz5317]

What, no cup holder? Expensive ebike to get you from point A to B.

[@uglygodelchingon7628]

Bro you sound like birdman! Search him up!

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

LMFAO issues. He made it sound like there are cons to the bike 😂

[@johnw65]

The bike being mis-aligned is a sign of poor quality control. and/or poor engineering. At these kind of prices, I expect perfection. Even if the components Are from China... The RCR is $5853 + S/H... That buys a whole lot of quality motorcycle! I realize the electric world is a lot more money for a lot less product, but....

[@dirtybloomers7068]

Good video, but, the emphasis on fit and finish makes me chuckle anyway. It is assembled by Homo sapiens under production quotas. It is not assembled by robots on a conveyer line. Young consumers accustomed to late model Toyotas, etc., welcome back to pre-full on Globalization America manufacturing circa ~1703 through ~1993. In general, our individualistic focus is great for generating new ideas and enriching a few majority shareholders, but, it consistently falls prey to founder cash-outs, and eventually, once the product is on the verge of becoming fully commoditized, to more homogenous societies willing to absorb losses or forgo short-term profits for long-term market share. But you know this already. That said, I'd buy one for sure :) I totally support pushing the power and speed of these units. Screw (or un-screw?) the nanny state's excessive meddling in something as fundamental as our freedom of movement in crucial times of change just because a few fools decorate the commons with their defective grey matter. Such meddling always leads to a LCD (lowest common denominator) rule set where everyone suffers the fools.

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

Peddling the bike is easy when you learn how

[@BillOweninOttawa]

Don't say, "kind of a problem". "This is a problem"

[@Gumsandals]

For that much money, you shouldn't have to adjust anything. ONYX should be embarrassed with the quality of their bikes.

[@MrCentralDriver]

Yeah. And the people who defend onyx say it’s an easy fix or buy this to replace this and your good. But we shouldn’t have to do any of that…

[@rolandos64]

Lol. Cops are different creatures! They don’t get training or have private ownership of similar items therefore they are clueless! 😂

[@vintagemxer9165]

Talk about no quality control.

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

Wow he said the dirt fender is massive and ugly lol I'm done

[@thedog5k]

So it’s garbage, thanks for the heads up.

[@johngranato2673]

REVV 1 FS has much better fit and finish--no offense intended

[@chrismunroe-martyn9120]

Your comments on things are I believe or I think or I'm not sure. Why make the video with so many unsure things. Seems like those that do know should be left to do this if your not sure then you really should not be telling people pros or cons just my opinion the video is good it's just your lack of knowledge on the product that seems odd why make a video on a product you don't actually know when or have not really learned

[@mastercheif1989]

This is basically a zero motorcycle but turned into a bicycle.