Open Bar #28 - Wakanda Forever Underperforms, Female Pirates Cancelled, Disney Layoffs Coming

[@SheldonAdama17]

“This is the day you will always remember as the day you almost replaced Captain Jack Sparrow”

[@Arthas30000]

This is a fantastic way to put it 😂

[@RRTNZ]

Nicely done, I always laugh at the scene where he uses that taunt on the cannibals, and gets drenched by a breaking wave.

[@steveswafen2528]

🤣🤣🤣

[@jasonlewis2990]

You win the internet for the day sir

[@kennethh2366]

Very well said. Margot could never replace Depp in this role. Never!

[@Brett-rx8sr]

When I heard about the all-female pirates movie being canceled, my reaction was, "wait, that was real? I thought it was a meme!"

[@mehrabislamarnab1675]

same. scrolled past it thinking it was a dumb meme. but apparently it was real. who comes up with these 💀

[@able34bravo37]

I thought it was a joke about the Pirates porn movie.

[@tjroelsma]

@@mehrabislamarnab1675 The people who are in power in Hollywood at this moment will consider anything that will wreck previous franchises by applying "The Message" to it. That being said, to me PotC is dead. Johnny Depp was sensational in the first movies, but he really dropped the ball in the latter movies. Jack Sparrow always appeared to be way more drunk than he actually was as a cover to hide his very shrewd and opportunistic mind. In the latter movies he was just plain drunk and there was almost nothing left of the shrewd and conniving Jack Sparrow. To me that killed off Jack Sparrow and therefore PotC.

[@AndrewThoesen]

The funniest thing about this is one of the most successful pirates in history WAS a woman. “As the unofficial commander of the Guangdong Pirate Confederation,[5] her fleet was composed of 400 junks and between 40,000 to 60,000 pirates in 1805.[6] Her ships entered into conflict with several major powers, such as the East India Company, the Portuguese Empire, and Qing China.” Just make biopic about Zheng Yi Sao. But no, female Jack sparrow, because Hollywood has no ideas anymore

[@easydoggy]

pirates normally raped women

[@se7enTse7en]

So, who wants to mansplain to Hollywood that strong female characters aren't female characters that are physically strong. They're well written characters.

[@HAYAOLEONE]

Impossible. Cause people would ask the same for men. And we all know roided buck angels are the future. +

[@aldunlop4622]

You’d have an easier time mansplaining how the Space Shuttle works.

[@gwoody4003]

​​@@aldunlop4622 its about as simple as what the poster said. Good Female Characters are in the writing and the acting, not the identity. Bad ass like a man isn't the only kind of bad ass. Space shuttle goes up on a rocket, comes down like a capsule then flies in atmosphere and lands like a plane. Lol... I know what you meant though. Just being fecetious.

[@zardox78]

Alien had Ripley, but it also had Lambert. Lambert wasn't meant to represent the frailness of females so much as she was meant to be the avatar for (let's face it) most of the people in the audience, both male and female. She reacts the way the average rando would react. She's the one saying "Let's _not_ go into that derelict spaceship," while everyone else is saying "Let's take a closer look." She freaks out, she freezes up. She does what most real-life people would do when confronted with a living nightmare.

[@freakystyley4000]

Fun fact: Lambert was retconned in Aliens to be trans. No joke, look it up.

[@easy4265]

@@freakystyley4000 really ?

[@stevenrapa4014]

@@freakystyley4000 No, I cannot and will not accept that.

[@LordVader1094]

@@freakystyley4000 That's actually quite interesting for a 1986 film to do, even if it was a background mention.

[@LordVader1094]

@@stevenrapa4014 It's literally on a screen in Aliens lol, its been the case for 30 years.

[@able34bravo37]

I love how all of this started with the Drinker saying, "So Jon returns to Castle Black and reunites with Ghost so that Mauler can stop complaining about it" in his GoT final episode review.

[@canderoussnurd4265]

Simon Tolkien selling out his grandfathers works and having issues with JRRs success is the epitome of modern thinking. And it makes me sick because I would never even dream of tarnishing my grandpa’s legacy. Ever. I’ll be honest that he could be verbally abusive and he wouldn’t sugar coat his words. He never missed an opportunity to criticize us for every thing we did wrong. But he also never missed a day of work less he was near death. He never missed so much as a car payment. He never let his children go hungry or his grandkids. He treated everyone uniquely and gave us good Christmas presents. Hell he bought my parents a water heater when the old one died without a second thought. That’s not even going into his decades of charity work, his time as a Boy Scout chairman and his service in world war 2. My grandfather was a good man and if I’m lucky I’ll be able to accomplish 1/10th of what that man did in a year in my entire life. My point being, is that when you have a grandfather who did a lot with his life and managed to touch so many lives in the process you don’t sell that legacy down the river or bitch about how unfair it is that you can’t be as good as him. You honor his memory and you thank God or whatever you hold near and dear that you had the privilege of being his kin. Simon regrets living in his grandfathers shadow. I regret that I didn’t spend more time with my grandfather before he died and I’m a straight up asshole. That’s should tell you how much of a douche bag Simon Tolkien is. God what a waste of skin the guy is.

[@thehermitman822]

If only the rest of us could be under just the edge of such a great shadow.

[@canderoussnurd4265]

@@thehermitman822 I know right

[@septimus7524]

As a wise commenter somewhere on KZbin once said, "The idea of superiority over those who precede you is the peak of ignorance."

[@Njordin2010]

my grandfather is similar, fought on the german side. (Eisenkreuzträger) it would never come to my mind to tarnish his legacy.

[@michaeldavies7949]

Simon Tolkien is a dog shit writer apparently. Never inherited his grandfather's flair

[@Jack-kb5nb]

I feel so bad for young boys growing up now, between the movies and the politics and all of that crap that is trying to beat them down and turn them into something they aren’t. When I was a kid my dad sat me down for a weekend when my sister and mom went on a trip to this salon and showed me all three of the original Starwars movies and Indian Jones. We always went to see movies and connected over them. Makes me sad so many kids aren’t gonna get to experience the same thinga

[@bigcoffinhunter5500]

Bro they got ironheart to look forward too

[@Pix3lB]

I have a cousin who is 10ish. loves Spiderman is neutral about captain marvel

[@GoldsteinShekelbergSwartz]

To be fair Indiana Jones and Star Wars is political. Indiana Jones literally has Germans (Nazis) as the bad guy in two movies and Russians in another. It funny how Germany exploite other countries looking for tresure when the countries themselves are British colonies or French colonies. I am sure the British and French will allow the Germans to have an army station in their country. LOL, realism is always out of the window when it comes to politics. It is not strange if you read early life to the director Steven Spielberg.

[@genmaicha.lapsang]

There's other books, movies and shows. Many of which have universal appeal. Demon slayer: kimetsu no yaiba being one. Or even playing The legend of Zelda.

[@joshjones9749]

@@Pix3lB Sony is Spider-Man's only hope now. I remember how the fans wanted Sony out of the picture entirely for so many years...thank GOD they still have a say and a chance to let him keep his dignity.

[@AndreawiththeBangs]

I have 3 boys Drinker, ages 10, 8 and 6. We have been going through all the marvel movies from Iron Man to End Game, watching great 90s classics like Back to the Future, The Sandlot and the Goonies, and I’m reading them Lord of the Rings for bedtime reading. It may be hard times but I remember the good films of my youth and am being sure to expose them to quality

[@kabukidad82]

This is the way.

[@darth-g0ldaR]

Good stuff!!! Navigate your choice of entertainment like navigating through a mine field,🤯LOL!

[@HolyMith]

Good man

[@fyrchmyrddin1937]

I recall reading Joseph Campbell when I was in middle school because I was interested in storytelling, mythology, &c. It's by no means impossible to make Campbell's classic Hero's Journey as a stronk wahmen. However, it's not *easy*, and that's what I find most distasteful about modern work... it's like the "showrunners" are pounding on the "Easy Button" and wondering what's not working.

[@Njordin2010]

same here fellow parent!

[@ScoundrelSFB]

You know we're in trouble if Quinton Tarantino says it's the worse era in film history, the man's seen every movie from reels to VHS. 🎥🎞📽 📼

[@JohnSmith-sb2fp]

His knowledge of films is pretty impressive and expansive.

[@bda8267]

@@JohnSmith-sb2fp yeah Quentin Tarantino the most overrated director in history most his films are crap and a sprinkling in there are few good ones but I do agree with him this is a crap era of film making no originality but what you think happens when you put women in charge of things 💯💯👍

[@ScoundrelSFB]

@@bda8267 at least he knows how to put women in cinema, Kill Bill 1&2, Jackie Brown, Death Proof... the man knows how's to do it right

[@SpoonBender-xi9ri]

@@bda8267 Well I gotta tell ya, most of the men in Hollywood aren't much better than most of the women, lmao. Look at what those idiots did to Rings of Power. They're all pushing the same shit now, female or male. All of Hollywood is going to shit and full-on woke.

[@Jaristandbeeld]

Haha, Quinton, sounds like he is an NBA player.

[@AJadedLizard]

40:34 They could've even gone a step further and made Namor's age a big reveal: make it look like he's of an age with, say, T'Challa and imply that everything in his backstory is happening at around the same time as the backstory in the first film, and then drop the bomb that he's really 500 years old and his life was sustained by the Vibranium. it adds to the mystique of the character.

[@walrusaurelius4801]

"Are we canceling white people at birth now?" Slowly MauLer begins to understand...

[@Th3BigBoy]

he's pretty slow in the uptake for all his brilliant critiques

[@RM_VFX]

When the numbers keep going down, Disney's going to need a new CEO to figure out why women don't flock to superhero franchises.

[@arthurfields9575]

I get more entertainment and enjoyment from watching my dogs playing and chasing each other around than I do from watching movies and TV shows that have come out recently!

[@TrigonAZR]

Yeah man. As a numerous dog owner, I'm exactly the same. My girl will ask me "are we watching something tonight?", and I'd literally rather walk the dogs out for the 4th time than consume what's on

[@arthurfields9575]

@@TrigonAZR it’s also just fun to have them run around inside the house or outside in the backyard too!

[@brianmcgarry1632]

I'd honestly rather watch your dogs running about playing too lol

[@Bonez0r]

Hey, it might be an idea to record your dogs for two hours and then release that as a theatrical movie and make millions.

[@TrigonAZR]

@@Bonez0r hahah, I have 6 dogs and I can tell You that their antics are way more entertaining than recent mcu flicks 😄

[@Nightstalker314]

Top Gun will definitely be the box office #1 of the year. It should be seen as a trend and not as an outlier.

[@thatguywhodoesstuff1432]

Doubt it, probably will be outgrossed by Way of Water.

[@Nightstalker314]

@@thatguywhodoesstuff1432 Kinda agree, but that might fall mostly into next year. And it will probably be boosted by massively forced/advertised 3D viewings.

[@Orson2u]

@@thatguywhodoesstuff1432 DREAM IN...Moronielles!

[@BSJ-Unparalleled]

As much as I love seeing that all your predictions were right, it’s also kind of sad. I really miss the feeling I used to get when a new Marvel movie was about to come out. Just the pure excitement of seeing a trailer, waiting, and then going to see the movie and being blown away was such an amazing experience. I miss the good ‘old days.

[@BTM8109]

Cynics bother people because they're often correct

[@pistolbobcat420]

Fo real, 2014 onwards until 2019, what a time it was to be a marvel movie fan and we were also spoiled with excellent tv shows like daredevil and agents of shield to further flesh out the universe, plus none of these shows were about a “message” all they cared about was telling cool stories. Sure Iron Fist and Inhumans both blew cat chow chunks but at least they weren’t “woke”, they were just writing mishaps

[@HerohammerStudios]

Eh, I only really felt that way from Ragnarok through to Endgame. Otherwise they've always been a bit too hit or miss for me

[@SumDumGy]

@@pistolbobcat420 *2008 Agents of SHIELD was sh*t.

[@richter6699]

@@HerohammerStudios What the hell? You think Black Panther, Ant Man and the Wasp, and Captain Marvel were good? Ragnarok and Infinity War are the only decent ones that came out in that time period.

[@doughauck57]

What does it say about Hollywood when Emily "Full Metal Bitch" Blunt doesn't want any more "strong female lead" roles?

[@kimonorising727]

According to the M-SHE-U: Hulk and Thor > Black Panther (Male) Namor > Hulk and Thor Black Panther (with ovaries) > Namor So now Shuri is currently the strongest avenger? Like drinker said in his review, she make a garden rake look anorexic and we’re supposed to believe she’s the strongest there is? Phase 4 has been such a joke. And Pirates is dead. Disney hammered the nail into that coffin when they axed Johnny Depp for telling the truth and shaming him for being a victim. I’ve never wanted a company to go bankrupt so badly. On a lighter note, keep up the fantastic works gentlemen. I watch everything you guys make and everytime you bring on a new guest, I’m introduced to another enlightened mind to subscribe to. I love it. 👌

[@AJLeonard28]

Black Panther with no Black Panther, for suuuure gonna pay to watch this one

[@zenstrata]

Even the first movie wasn't good. I thought it was mediocre at best. And this second one was garbage.

[@badshootykat5574]

Did you block the doors to the movie house too?

[@AJLeonard28]

@@badshootykat5574 I blocked all the dangerous racists who would do my black brothers and sisters harm 🫡🫡✊🏿✊🏿

[@jorgamund07]

9:07 "Now you have to be straight up told what to think about these characters." Yes, because if you went off of their actual actions, you wouldn't be able to tell they were supposed to be "strong". This is being written by the crowd that has to self-validate themselves with labels and ideology, because they aren't accomplishing anything that stands on its own.

[@daveturlow5967]

You know it’s a sad time for movies when porn is legitimately telling better story’s…..

[@SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk]

Only a sad sack actually watches the porn plot.

[@EJNTheSarge1982]

😆😅🤣😂😄😆😅🤣😂👍

[@jaredchilders3781]

Jesse Jane is one of the best actresses. I love her kind of pirate work.

[@shaylelarue787]

Lmao ikr I thought I was gunna be one of the only people to recognize the thumbnail 😂😂😂

[@osmanyousif7849]

@@jaredchilders3781, oh yeah. We all watch her for her “acting work”….

[@ryananderson4614]

At 1:26:00 The Drinker hit the character investment on the head, when you see characters endure the blows of life emotionally and "soldier on", such as the loss of potential children or loss of a wife. HOTD dealt with adversity, while Wakanda Forever decided to take it literally by character development enduring the blows of life as a spear through the stomach and spine.

[@Darkphr34k]

On reddit I witnessed a guy claim that you don't read Tolkien because it's good, you read it to appear smart. I think of that every time I hear Rings of Power dialogue, and can't help but think that the writers view Tolkien in much the same way.

[@magmus2]

Only a Yank would say something stupid like that about Tolkien's work, and of course they are from reddit.

[@trequor]

There was once a radio host in New York, in the early days of radio. He wanted to prove that the intelligencia were ignorant, unthinking parrots. So he asked his listeners to promote this book that didnt exist. This revolutionary piece of art that everyone who was anyone had read. And it WORKED! Bookstores across America were getting demands for a non-existent book as people heard their pompous relatives talk about how deep and evocative it was to read. Whole book clubs discussed this book that no one had read because it didnt exist.

[@batboy555]

Tolkiens writing is possibly the best thing ever written. Man's a fool.

[@emhu2594]

Tolkien is a meandering slog full of side plots with a ton of poems and songs crammed in. So in a way rings of power...was pretty faithful in that respect. The reason why Lord of the Rings was good was because they had great actors, a great screen writer and editor, and people who liked the source material but who knew when to cut the fluff.

[@trequor]

@@emhu2594 It isn't meandering. You could describe the first chapter as meandering very fairly, but after that it all has a purpose to the story. A singular theme, message, and story.

[@Alivair]

The best way they could have married the two scripts together would be to have an expedition of some sort led by T'challa come under attack from Namor, resulting in T'challa's death. That not only sets up Namor as a real threat, but also provides motivation for Shuri to get revenge. For flavor you could keep the bit where she talks to Killmonger. Have her wrestle with getting revenge vs seeking justice. Have her internal struggle reflect the argument between Killmonger and T'challa.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Killmonger's dead. How will that work?

[@Alivair]

@@osmanyousif7849 if you've not seen the movie yet, she goes to the ancestral plane and he's there. Kind of like how in the first movie T'challa saw his father.

[@stevene6482]

Stagnettis Revenge is a cut above most Hollywood releases recently.

[@warspawnedpainting4380]

For all you refined gentlemen of culture - Pirates 2 from the thumbnail had a budget of $8 Million. Adjusted for inflation that's $12,207,352.79.

[@TheMcK777]

Okay I'm kinda impressed at that 🤣

[@rajyavardhansingh4491]

Name of the movie in the thumbnail?

[@user-uc4vg4rg9e]

Wait what🤣

[@rajyavardhansingh4491]

@@user-uc4vg4rg9e stop being cringe

[@user-uc4vg4rg9e]

@@rajyavardhansingh4491 it was a throw away comment just so I could monitor this comment for an answer to your question, because I also want to know

[@sskoog]

DC ran into this [Emily Blunt] problem three or four years back -- Gal Gadot took the microphone at a convention panel, said "I'm just glad we will now have strong female role models in these films," and Amy Adams, seated on same panel, was visibly seething at her.

[@ottersirotten4290]

The promo Picture of the new all Female Pirates Movie looks promising, gonna watch it!

[@dylanblack8714]

That’s from a porn parody

[@poiuyt975]

@@dylanblack8714 No shit, Sherlock. :D

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

Yeah the Pirates movie was great. My wrists bear testament to that :D

[@HAYAOLEONE]

@@poiuyt975 calm down, girl

[@Durzo1259]

@@thatguyfromcetialphaV The abundance of giant, plastic basketball tits ruined it for me.

[@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971]

Man I love how not only is this podcast hilarious but it's also a great place for a lot of up and coming commentators to get their start and get on the wider audience's radar.

[@SpartyCubsFan]

Hey Drinker! Thanks so much for getting this live stream reposted up so quickly! Great stuff. Ocean Man, Fookin’ ✂️

[@SheldonAdama17]

I’d watch a female Pirates if it had a cameo from Tatyana!

[@jameshogg601]

To Tortuga!!

[@steveswafen2528]

@@jameshogg601 🤣🤣🤣

[@jaychimera372]

@@jameshogg601 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[@randobad]

They should call it 'Harpies of the Caribbean.'

[@jameshogg601]

@@randobad Herpes of the Carribbean certainly

[@thereturningshadow]

Talking about that Pirates porn movie. They had to edit it into a mainstream movie in order to film on location in Tampa. They always intended to make a porn movie but the owners of the pirate ship they filmed at required them to make a regular movie out of it also or they would be allowed to film on location. So they did and made twice as money than they expected.

[@thepoisonkid2483]

I can't believe your really found that old film poster as your thumbnail!!! XD Pirates2 : Stagnetti's revenge!!! Drinker truly is a man of cinematic culture lads and lasses.

[@AfroPlaylist]

What Gary said is right! When You Hit Rock Bottom, You Do better! I felt that shit in my soul!

[@YormanGina]

I legit thought they were gonna try the romance angle between Riri and Namor. It sorta felt like they might establish the connection between both of them being from ancient civilizations in hiding, and how sticking together would be the smartest choice. She helps keep his ambitions in check, and he joins their efforts of keeping vibranium out of the hands of the rest of the world. The conflict could've come from the world governments, but guess that'll be the third movie that likely won't happen.

[@joshjones9749]

Calling the heart shaped herb "flower power" is great 🤣

[@DingbatToast]

Growing up, I loved movies and spent a lot of my wages on upgrading my "home cinema". Better TV (wide screen, then Hi-def, then Full Hi def, now 4k and HDR etc..) plus upgrading my sound system, sterio, surround sound, dolby 5.1 etc...) Throughout that period, i always felt my ststem was never good enough to really experience the movie as it was intended. Now, I feel the movies aren't good enough to watch on my system! 🎬

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Now you're just gonna have a better look at how bad the CGI is (cue to de-moustached Henry Cavill with the event horizon scream)

[@ch111er]

Pretty spot on about Andor - having listened to these takes I do recall it being a bit of a slow burn at the front - but Skarsgaard and Serkis are fantastic. Cassian represents a bit more of a conduit by the end but I think he's perfectly satisfying in that regard. I like that he isn't a Hollywood stud and he's consistent and has an appreciable arc so far. It IS somewhat a detraction that we know his fate but, at the same time, knowing a character's ultimate fate isn't necessarily a bad thing. When done right, the motion towards that end is engaging. The same can be said about the series length, it might feel difficult to commit emotionally to the series, but, when done right, it should be tightly wound and not suffer from bloat.

[@smoothoperator3739]

Riri is simply America Chavez from Dr. Strange 2. They're pretty much a similar character plot

[@ethansnyder3401]

All that garbage comes out of the same ideological milieu

[@rajyavardhansingh4491]

@@ethansnyder3401 oh

[@nunyabeezwax3043]

Best male character introduced in phase 4 is mobius, if literally any real writer had control of him.

[@campbellsoup93]

Morbius isn't in the MCU.

[@IVIRnathanreilly]

@@campbellsoup93 you mean to tell me that it isn't morbing time?

[@Aa-_-Zz]

@@campbellsoup93 hes talking about the blonde guy from Loki lol

[@thehermitman822]

"WAKE UP NEO"

[@campbellsoup93]

@@Aa-_-Zz Oh. Okay, my bad.

[@E3Ops]

A parody of Pirates of the Caribbean with Jim Carrey as Jack would be epic. I'm all in.

[@chasehedges6775]

Tbh, I’d watch that.

[@thehermitman822]

"LET ME TELL YA SOMETHIN" "THIS SHIP DOES NOT MEET SEAFARING FIRE CODE" *BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*

[@gofigureme5749]

Jim Carey? That's the best you can come up with?

[@IRMentat]

@@gofigureme5749 agreed. Jim seems to have gone off the deep end.

[@rin7564]

Uh, no....

[@kevinjackman4026]

23:40 I'm so glad someone finally talked about Namorrrrrrrr's dad bod. The emasculation of men can now be seen physically.

[@MoroVanator]

Echo, "this film will fade from..." Me, "If you guys were not talking about it, it would not be in my brain at all." The more that you guys go on in this episode, the more I want to go re-watch Finder's Fee. You guys should give it a look.

[@NathanCassidy721]

The most entertaining thing I’ve gotten out of “Black Panther: Where all the Men Go?” Is the obvious fact that the writers clearly don’t talk to other people. It’s made the most obvious by the fact that the first shot we see of the Mexican Ocean Man emerging out of the water is his back. Or the fact that his wings resemble that of a chicken. And if you don’t get it, just ask a few Mexicans and they will educate you.

[@jeffreydad]

well, i don't got a mexican close right now living in germany and all. sooo whats the background?

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@jeffreydad I would look up the Midnight's Edge clip or Tim Pool's segment on Black Panther on this if you want context. But the long and short of it is they pretty much put in content that is highly disrespectful of Mexican Culture. It would be similar if I was making a movie with a German character whose entire wardrobe is from Hugo Boss.

[@klegdixal3529]

@@NathanCassidy721 you mean like Schindler's List?

[@doublep1980]

@@jeffreydad A ''Wet Back'' is a derogatory term, for Mexicans. Because, they come ''swimming over the Rio Grande into the USA''. That's the racist stereotype. First time they show Mexican Ocean Man, is when he swims into a river that is the border of Wakanda, he comes out of the water and they show his back, who is wet. Do I have to explain more?

[@jeffreydad]

@@doublep1980 No that pretty much explains the Problem^^

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

Noomi Rapace's Portrayal of Lisbeth in the Girl with the Golden Tattoo Millennium TV series was brilliant.

[@mazeknox]

Dragon 😝

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@mazeknoxlol

[@poiuyt975]

1:15:38 "Incompetent and a little bitter" - sounds like a good premise for a villain.

[@mudman4500]

Sounds like a terrible premise for a villain. Villains should be extremely competent and bitter otherwise what has the hero to overcome?

[@poiuyt975]

@@mudman4500 That would be a story of how he became a villain.

[@benjaminstreet9160]

somehow i'm reminded of that line in madmax furyroad, the bit bit when the baby is born dead. and the big muscle guy holds it high in the air and says "i had a baby brother, and it was perfect in everyway"

[@thetruestar6348]

Funny how MY LITTLE PONY could attract boys which was a girl brand and Disney couldn’t figure it out. Or a older example SAILOR MOON !

[@PolarizedMechs]

Because those had good writers. MLP could do Tom and Jerry in the 1940s comedy or do social commentary, and it excelled at both. Sailor Moon also had some very poignant plots and great characterization. Those female characters were strong, tough, and even when they got knocked down, they got back up. They were not perfect.

[@user-yv4mm6bx3c]

A teenage super genius you say? 25:28 Westly Crusher was doing that while most of these screenwriters were still in diapers.

[@marccreation1052]

Yeah...wrong gender, wrong color. But at least gay.

[@Durzo1259]

A super genius who was a meek, mild-mannered mamma's boy - none of the personality you'd expect from a real super genius.

[@FluffNCrunch]

It makes me sad to hear everybody trashing on Kang. Now, to be clear… while I was big into the comics, it was actually Earth’s Mightiest Heroes(the animated series) that gave me my love of Kang. They managed to give him depth, emotional weight and just, straight-up menace. He was a real threat. Just like Ultron from that same series. So much potential in those villains and they just didn’t get realized on the big screen. Big sad.

[@maffmatics]

Echo Chamberlain has some good commentary - keep him on boys

[@harvy68]

S1E8 of HotD is absolutely brilliant. I was moved to tears in MULTIPLE moments...something GoT never came close to achieving. The very end when Viserys is moments from dying and he reaches up as if he sees Aemma. It cuts to black and the final words spoken are "my love." It was so smart to have him say that AFTER cutting to black instead of before because it implies he's reached some afterlife and can finally see his true love again. Its not simply a vision, or that's atleast what they want us to believe in order to deepen the impact of Viserys' death. An amazing character on par with Ned Stark with a completely different ending. Bravo to Paddy Considine and Season 1 as a whole. We are ready for Season 2!

[@tomnorton4277]

That's a hell of a lot more optimistic than anything George RR Martin writes when he kills off characters. The man is a nihilistic arsehole who constantly hammers the audience with how hopeless, miserable and meaningless he thinks life is. People like him have helped to create an entire generation of nihilistic arseholes.

[@JessHorca]

This stream's 100% gonna make Pirates trend on the pirate sites.

[@DJGQINHURST]

Is there anything better than 3 and a half hours with the drinker, mauler, and nerdrotic

[@HerohammerStudios]

3 and a half hours without nerdrotic?

[@piotrswat169]

@@HerohammerStudios f u dude Gary is ok

[@marbellaotaiza801]

3 and a half hours with Tatiana?

[@nungtow1]

Namor in terms of attitude in that film should have been closer to black Adam than what they were going for. Not afraid to kill for his beliefs and sees what he is doing as the absolute right thing.

[@darth-g0ldaR]

Just imagine being a American of Mexican descent like me who's been a lifelong Prince Namor the Submariner fan... only to see him turned into a walking talking ethnic stereotype for no reason whatsoever. My heart is officially 💔. At least that one episode of Rick and Morty gave us a somewhat accurate depiction of Namor. Thanks Disney🖕😒🖕thanks a lot.

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

The all female Pirates movie was very good. My wrist bears testament to it...

[@kdogg2077]

Jesse Jane ftw!

[@thatguyfromcetialphaV]

@@kdogg2077 i would! Taimie Hannum though was a knockout :)

[@BMRTV]

2:30:22 What they needed to do was create a Deep Space 9 kind of show. Center around the cantina or the space port or something, new people coming through a few side quests but always centered there.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

It is going to take a long time for the WOKE tide to go back out. Iv’e heard they have been downplaying they production cost. The insistence on CGI, producer interference, use of talentless hacks, all triggering incessant re shoots. Point is supposedly Disney keeps underplaying what they actually spend making their flicks. Hell Darth Kennedy production delays on Indy 5 have supposedly cost Disney 60m alone.

[@HAYAOLEONE]

It won't go away. Why? Cause the 'woke' CONTROLLED OP must go on super strong. +

[@Bonez0r]

Haven't watched the video yet, but what do I see there in the thumbnail, the poster of _Pirates II: Stagnetti's Revenge?_ Drinker, I see you are a man of culture :D 55:29 The budget was 8 million USD.

[@krubereats8877]

Really like echo, and his channel is just starting up, so I think a subscription is in order

[@KutluMizrak]

I'll be honest. The Margot Robbie pirate rendition in that thumbnail WOULD make me see the movie. ..... I'm not gonna apologize people, I'm a hot blooded male.

[@Blu3-Fir3]

No reason to apologize, I'd do the same.

[@Cauthon]

That's from Pirates II Stagnetti's Revenge.

[@RM_VFX]

That's because the thumbnail is from a porn parody 🤣

[@stillcantbesilencedevennow]

Same. It would need to be halfway well-acted but FULLY "stacked" in order to keep me though.

[@SheldonAdama17]

It would be very hard to make

[@eurodoc6343]

I remember there was an article in Slate before the release of Black Panther that was essentially "These are the top reasons why you should be excited about BP". Not being a fan of the MCU, I made the mistake of commenting that none of those things made me interested in the film. That comments about "You're a racist!!!" followed extremely heavily.

[@thebadbandito]

George's figures in the back are fantastic.

[@SnakeWasRight]

If you understand this thumbnail, you're a real one

[@poiuyt975]

Is this from the original or from the sequel? ;-)

[@nickharmer9722]

Looks like the sequel 😅🫢😶🫥

[@margolane3361]

Ok coomer

[@Zzyzzyx]

I'm a fake then

[@Sentinel82]

@@margolane3361 Watch it there milk tank. 🤣

[@thomaspayne7617]

George dropped the OG Thomas Sowell!!!!!! Yes!

[@fistan5447]

i love the fact that in thumbnail you linked for female pirates was the poster for greatest porn parody ever made XD

[@jayw900]

2:27:35 You don't even have to like the material. Part of being a professional is doing a competent job regardless if you like it or not. I'm sure it'll be even better if they did but it's not a requirement.

[@therealesg3268]

Yes, I do remember the pirates porno having a pretty wide opening... I'll see myself out.

[@marsoelflaco5722]

Thumbnail: That female "Pirates of the Caribbean" looks like a blockbuster to me! Girl power!👏🏽

[@osmanyousif7849]

Oh yeah, power for sure. Power in the…. nether regions.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

​@@osmanyousif7849 not only the nether though...

[@SirClerihew]

Props to George for holding up his drink for the entire stream

[@SumDumGy]

What does that mean?

[@SirClerihew]

@@SumDumGy look at how George blends with the stream’s background

[@SumDumGy]

@@SirClerihew Ahhhhh... got it. Thanks!

[@marbellaotaiza801]

LoL

[@shahman76]

I KNEW that thumbnail might’ve looked familiar. Well done sirs. My nostalgia thanks you.

[@michaell8000]

I know right just "where do I know this from" kept pokeing me in the noggin and then oh right that *movie*

[@MrMacavity]

All female casts reboots: "it's ok when we do it"

[@aldunlop4622]

They’ve all been bombs to date.

[@bazzy5644]

@@aldunlop4622 The most hilarious one is still the Charlies Angles Reboot they botched. It's pretty impressive to fuck something up the characters were always supposed to be written as. But yeah, at this point I really hope that rumored all fem FightClub thing will just get canned or put in a vault somewhere and never seen by anyone.

[@osmanyousif7849]

@@bazzy5644, too late.Already being made. That movie called Bottoms….

[@dimebag505]

Even Shang Chi had a female equivalent in his sister

[@Quran112083]

Don’t forget she taught herself to fight also

[@thanatoast4389]

@@Quran112083 and she beat him

[@bradman2301]

Any chance you guys can put time stamps on the videos for when the topic changes?

[@mrjones29]

Yep I was around as a small teen in 1980 lining up for The Empire Strikes Back. The film was insanely massive for hype and box office. Agree with Nerdrotic on that since he's old enough to remember those old days. There was only a handful of old hack critics that slated the film because they didn't like sci-fi outside of the classic 2001: A Space Odyssey. Every other critic and all the news channels raved about the film. Ahhh the good old days when Star Wars was released during the school summer holidays like blockbusters were supposed to be. Christmas Star Wars releases are lame and pure Disney groomer fluff.

[@FetaCheese717]

I’d rather watch Thor 2 than any of the sludge being produced right now in phase bore.

[@TheKungfulord]

I'm not going to lie, that poster looks intriguing

[@fritzkaraldo8452]

Sasha Grey was in Pirates 2, she is on YT and Twitch I belive, also she will be in Cyberpunk 2077 as a DJane, so she would be probably up to be on this Panel and have a chat with you guys. I also never ever have seen Pirates 2 - Stagnetti's Revenge

[@Biggiiful]

She's super woke/big BLM supporter. So I doubt it.

[@Red-zh7vq]

She’s such a terrible human being

[@fritzkaraldo8452]

@@Red-zh7vq Well, I guess than no. :D The few bits I saw of her over all these years gave me a diffrent picture of her.

[@fritzkaraldo8452]

@@Biggiiful My bad. I thought she was diffrent.

[@YouLousyKids]

"Consume product and await next product" is the best meme for this era. Regarding "Ring of Power", there was a moment in that last episode where the witches told the tall stranger that he was Sauron and I thought that these hacks had actually been geniuses all along. That they'd been toying with the viewers the whole year, with "Hot Sauron" (Halbrand) being such an obvious setup that it is called out by the "superfans" in Amazon's own promos, and then in the last episode they call us all out, that's not Gandalf, it's Sauron! GENIUS! And then in two minutes they completely wreck it. It actually could have been good if they'd stuck with that.

[@Nevyn515]

I’m looking forward to Deadpool 3… No, wait,I take it back as it will probably be the introduction of Gwenpool and Lady Deadpool to replace actual Deadpool who will be a failure, suck at everything, be saved by the better women replacements and then he’ll die.

[@emrysmyridden]

If i were black or a woman I would be pissed that I was being portrayed as part of a group who had no talent and no original thought so I scavenge from those that do and then shit on them publically.

[@luckyswordsmen991]

If I ever meet Mauler and drinker I'm going to bust into a bar with that theme playing

[@viszordo324]

The people saying Andor is good are the same people who mindlessly praise The Mandalorian. This is my opinion, but I have no respect for a show's writing team when half way through the second season, they know an episode is going to end with droids flying away with the McGuffin so they set the main character up pointing his blaster at an unarmored man's face, has him dead to rights, and the unarmored man says "put down the jetpack," completely ignoring the blaster staring him in the eye. Why not put down the blaster? Because the jetpack can prevent the cliff hanger they have set up at the end. Or a couple episodes later when the Dark Saber is suddenly unable to be given, even though in Rebels--a show also produced by Filoni and Favraeu who are not in fact your saviors--Sabine GAVE the Dark Saber to Bo-Katan already. Andor can pound sand. I have given up completely on Disney Wars and no amount of artificial hype and acceptance will be able to pull me out of the mountain of Expanded Universe books that came before(despite what KK said.)

[@Raviell87]

Had a really hard and shitty day today, I come home and what do I see? Not only is the Open Bar waiting for me, but the title says cheap PotC knockoff is cancelled?! I'll fckn drink to that! The day isn't that bad actually anymore! Cheers, and thanks guys! 🥃

[@Drawnartist]

Glad your feeling better buddy

[@kevinturner287]

These companies buy the IP, because they want the fan$, and then ignore the canon which is why the IP has the fans. They just do not understand that the IP comes with the canon and that canon keeps the fans. The story is there, the universe is there, the characters are there, the fans are there, and yet, they think they can do better, and rarely do. Then of course it is the fans' fault.

[@oktoberbabyfee]

Finally!! George is in the Open Bar! Cheers, Gang!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@christophertaylor9100]

That's all that Marvel puts out now, they have a corporate board putting together scenes, the way they make music now, but its not popular. Riri looked like something shoehorned into the movie just to introduce her character, instead of a post-credits scene.

[@Mjdemass]

Couldn't catch it last night, been waiting for it thanks. Time to crack open a cold one

[@elliotthebert4419]

I love that all of these people I found independently of one another keep finding their way to each other and making better, funnier, and more entertaining entertainerment than the entertainment can make to entertain us. B.E.A.Utiful

[@Jack-kb5nb]

Critical is right. “Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

[@BMRTV]

15:31 Tim Pool's take was Namor was a mexican who evaded their border by crossing a river

[@TheScarletSlayer]

THEORY: production if the falcon and the winter soldier began in October 2019 and Chadwick passed away the following year in August I believe. I'm pretty sure there's a comment in the series made by Zemo saying he killed the black panther which most likely was written before Chadwick passed away. Point is I am willing to bet black panther was already on his way out of the MCU and Chadwick's passing was a happy accident on marvels front and saw the opportunity to pose it as a respectful end to Chadwick's character and that he could never be recast from this unfortunate event. If I'm right about falcom and soldier boy then that could mean they never intended to do anything else with the black panther and his death was always ment to happen in this movie.

[@WeAreNowProducing]

Zemo killed the black panther in civil war, tchallas dad

[@TheScarletSlayer]

@@WeAreNowProducing is that who he was referring to then in falcon and task master?

[@Sentinel82]

Either way he was going to be replaced by a female. The extra milking of his death was definitely a "happy accident" for Disney though.

[@TheScarletSlayer]

@@Sentinel82 if they genuinely cared about him and his character they would've either recast him or gave him the respect of making sure this movie was a knock out banger. Did they do that, nah. Let's just take the time to introduce throw away villain number 315 and new female black panther and new female iron man who are totally not the exact same person and then just throw in 14 billion jokes per second and BAM black panther 2.

[@Quran112083]

I think Suri was gonna become Black Panther in the 3rd movie but with Chadwick passing they figured cool we was gonna get rid of his character anyway

[@tfs203]

I took 6 of us to Disney in 2009, and for 6 days, it was just under $5000 back then! Not including the Hotel or Food.

[@reval1989]

I think my favourite part of the downfall of Disney was the hubris of people on Twitter when DeSantis turned on them The tough talk like Disney was going to crush him sure has turned

[@jeancaron9325]

This is what happed,When You Dumb Down and Demonized the Male Characters and Mary Suing the Female Characters,Do Bad Story.

[@googlieking]

Politics whether it is identity, gender, race etc... is the pursuit of control of one person/group over others. Discrimination is illegal under the law. Mutual respect of the individual has already been achieved. It is not necessary to pursue these agenda. Those that do not understand this are suffering with a controlling type of mental health disorder.

[@therealesg3268]

ROP is not inspired by Tolkien, it is not an adaptation of Tolkien, this isn't even an homage to Tolkien. ROP is something that saw tremendous marketing potential in the name Lord of the Rings. They robbed the grave of Tolkien and used the names of his characters for their own stories. This is worse than fanfic because they flaunt the story is if it were the genuine article. [insert Ian Malcolm rant from Jurassic Park]

[@nemo616a]

It's Anti Fan-Fiction, fan fiction made by people who aren't fans.

[@justinlast2lastharder749]

So the First Pirates Prons was less than 1mil, the SEQUEL was 8mil. 2005 and 2008 according to Google. In 2011 My then GF worked at an Adult Store as a second job, they sold it for 90 bucks each and people would buy it. If they sold 100,000 copies total they'd make their budget back and that's at a few years later reduced price. That's not counting all the websites they licensed to, all the rentals, all the "arcades" playing it...Somebody retired off that money. That's insane profit. My ex stole a copy because of course she did. You could tell it had a crazy good budget. Some Producer made their dream pirate movie, made some money, and probably screwed a few pronstars on the set. Dude was living his dream.

[@Advoc8te4Truth]

When you look at Disney you have to think their CFO is looking at results vs projected results and saying WTF are we doing here? 😳 Marvel was a slam dunk 1 Billion Gross per movie. To put this into perspective at an average of 150-250 million (production budget) and a marketing budget 100-150 million these Movies need to gross twice this amount just to break even. Wakanda Forever is listed at around 500 million total cost, so needs literally 1 billion gross just to break even. This year every Marvel Movie has underperformed including Doctor Strange. So 2022 could see the entire slate of Marvel Movies making little or nothing at the Box Office. So back to our hypothetical CFO instead of making 1.5-3 Billion for the year they have lost 1.5-3 Billion. How long can any Studio keep going with that type of burn rate? 🔥 Our CFO would likely say if we don't change our direction immediately Disney Studios will be bankrupt in 3-5 years.

[@TraditionalAnglican]

They’ll fire him if he dares to say that - They’re paying him $10 million to ignore the hemorrhaging of money!

[@Advoc8te4Truth]

@@TraditionalAnglican haha your probably right or he's colour blind 😮

[@PlanetZoidstar]

When will Hollywood learn we don't want female spinoffs of existing movies? Give women their own franchises and IPs to mainline, don't give them men's table scraps. Who wanted a Black Panther movie without Chadwick Boseman in it? No one.