Open Court Durants Decision

[@unchboy]

Players today seen how the old timers without a ring are treated today.

[@USALeonHeart]

Period end of story. If ppl got their flowers just for being great on their own, a lot of sports stories would be different.

[@TheItalo8888]

Couldn't agree more 👏

[@JamalTy141]

Exactly

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

So they cheat to get more respect. If you didn’t win, you didn’t win

[@klo4880]

@@nostalgiacorner1999 it’s cheap. Not cheating

[@mrpassley2307]

We would’ve welcomed him..😂😂😂😂😂😂 best line Isaiah. 0:55-1:15

[@Kingdizzleltdinc615]

Could you imagine Jordan with the Pistons…man they would’ve been unstoppable

[@VladimirElliot]

@Band Boy 50/50 How is that cap? Refusing Michael JORDAN????😂😂😂are you outta your mind

[@geybetter5784]

You misspelled “lie”. But line and lie are similar. So I get it.

[@geybetter5784]

@@VladimirElliot grow up. Not everybody just wants to cheese and stroke and bully for self gratitude. Some actually want to be the best. Not portray a narrative and storyline to manipulate casuals. Such as yourself.

[@ISDATBLAZE]

@@geybetter5784 you gotta realize as much as we hate it these guys all play to win and any advantage that they can get to win they are gonna take it, especially in this era, players in the 80s and 90s already said that if they were able to do the same thing kevin Durant did then they would do it.

[@OldChanCharlie]

I just didn’t like the fact that it robbed us of what could’ve been a great rivalry.

[@robertwhite2900]

It was wasn’t a rival from the get go

[@days7687]

@@robertwhite2900 i think he meant Cleveland vs Golden State

[@Kingdizzleltdinc615]

My only problem with it,you up 3-1,you lose to that team and then go join them,that was my only problem as a competitor..we was always taught run it back,let’s rematch this instead of let me join y’all

[@AV3ZN]

Two rivals gs vs okc n gs vs cavs

[@antiisolation4]

@@days7687 still wouldn’t have been draymond suspended was the only chance that team had pf beagijg golden state without kd healthy they were a better team do people forget that better standings better record easier playoff sweeps.

[@thecookj454]

It’s like Karl Malone joining the bulls after he lost, that’s the best comparison

[@balamkinich7968]

So Karl Malone joining the 3-Peat Lakers? Except they didnt win...

[@thecookj454]

​@@balamkinich7968 No because Karl Malone wasn't in his prime, Kevin Durant was in his prime basically. Malone did more of what Blake Griffin and Boogie Cousins did which is just hop on a stacked team at the end of their career and hope it works out

[@balamkinich7968]

@@thecookj454 my point is that you're using a bad analogy because Karl still had skill and he ring chased... the standards were different back then You waited until you were almost done to chase back then... like GP, Barkley, and just about anyone else

[@nassifguiling4922]

​@@balamkinich7968 Uhm no. Malone ring chased in his final year.

[@sillyboy2223]

Dude he joined the Kobe/Shaq lakers

[@stefanogasasira9406]

love these type of discussions, former players understand what can be going through his head when it came down to a decision. kd just wanted to win a ring. i’m glad they don’t look down on it but understand that it’s just a different mentality with this era.

[@kennyallen6286]

It could have never been helped? "Yes" Durant the 3-1 also his teammates? This is why durant stays silent? I never mentioned his visit to anyone except his family and his friends?.... OKC wouldn't be a city of championships?

[@Lifeinpurgatory]

Durant is a bitch, he didn’t want to win a ring he wanted it handed to him with no challenge

[@jamesglimco4371]

@@Lifeinpurgatory it’s ok Lebron couldn’t win before 2012 either. That’s why he had to join Wade and Bosh in Miami.

[@cottonmather8146]

@@jamesglimco4371 And Lebron is a bitch for that. But Durant is a bigger bitch for joining the team he lost to. If Lebron tried to pull that shit with the Celtics/Warriors, his ass would be out of the top 10 period

[@johnhancock1362]

@@cottonmather8146 lmao “Lebron a bitch too” Idk why but usually these comments just suck players off and go back and forth, it’s hilarious seeing somebody say fuck em all 😂

[@jdtippet7002]

they need to do these shows again

[@NOLIMIT2359]

“Lebron joined his friends to beat his enemies, Durant joined his enemies to beat his friends”

[@ron8187]

🐍

[@akkoismydaughter3573]

You really think Durant was friends with Westbrook, I bet that nigga annoying asf

[@nbawinningtips]

Lol lebron was icapable of winning it byhimself

[@Wyndamn]

Pretty much sums it up.

[@jcvelez915]

@@nbawinningtips no one can win by themselve you incel

[@xeverybolo2323]

And now KD decided it was to boring to join a superteam he will create his own

[@jamaali2358]

2023 KD can play for the heavily favoured team in the finals after activating the Durant rights clause in his contract

[@brandonb3174]

@@jamaali2358 yep

[@Spider-Complexion]

The big issue with the signing was that it was the team that had gone 73-9 and had an MVP already. Plus their roster was stacked. Everyone suspected Kevin of leaving OKC but none of us really thought he would join the team that had just beaten him. That was what made the move so weak and bogus.

[@Airestotle09]

Watching CWebb’s reactions to the takes just makes me realize he deserved to be a Champion more than anybody else. As humble and honorable as anybody ever. He wanted to win the right way

[@dwaynecousar2595]

“We would’ve welcomed him” man I love these dudes like they my uncles 😂😂😂

[@greatone275]

Seriously hilarious, Zeke kept it real 🤣🤣

[@tranquilohomie2248]

He wanted a championship, I respect that but that "move" is still the weakest ever

[@stephen9220]

got 2 now......

[@thecookj454]

@@stephen9220 he got 2 ring pops lmao

[@xsah2]

@@thecookj454 nah two championship rings 2 more then Russ will ever have

[@YoungBlood507]

He wasn’t ring chasing, he was finals appearances. There’s an interview with him and talk show hosts where he says the 2012 playoff run with a finals appearance was the most fun he’s ever had playing basketball. He said “that shit fun as hell I want to experience that again at the highest level, why would I want to be anywhere else” he felt he couldn’t get there again and went to a team he knew was the best option to get there. Sure he took the easy way out and it was weak and ruined nba competition, but it’s his life and he did what’s best for him, he did something selfish cause he’s been unselfish for so long.

[@lelu0079]

Lebron weak too then

[@PengxueYG]

isaiah was right he didnt have a bond with management. he was mad sam didnt want to celebrate around okc saying he was MVP when sam thought more about the team.

[@BSE1320]

Didn't like it and still don't. Imagine Magic going to the Celtics after he lost to them in the finals.

[@russell2890]

KD will always be a bitch because of that move.

[@abruhigoham7472]

@@russell2890 i cant believe people try to defend his move lol. Easiest the weakest move in nba history.

[@blackcobra1981]

Magic is 2-1 vs the Celtics in the Finals

[@nickv3740]

@Tom B - Not even close to the same thing. Magic had won 3 titles by his 6th year in the league with his original team. KD hadn’t won anything in OKC so he simply went to an environment where he could get a ring. Also OKC and GS played each other one time in the playoffs - they didn’t have a rivalry with deep resentment like the Lakers and Celtics did.

[@abruhigoham7472]

@Vq37 hr i think ur leaving out finals mvp and a top 5 all time SG in D Wade ? You bron D riders make me laugh.

[@josecarranza7555]

“If you can’t beat them, join them” kevin durant.

[@therealpvc2541]

Get a life I’ve seen you comment this same shit on multiple vids relating to KD

[@goodman5836]

OKC lost KD the moment they traded James Harden.

[@therealpvc2541]

they lost KD as soon as they left Seattle

[@supergaga1712]

Exactly what I said at the time. After the '12 finals I said OKC should have traded Westbrook for CP straight up. OKC would have 4 chips right now

[@kingdongo4388]

Facts

[@kingdongo4388]

@@Justin_Waters haters be hating & salty lol

[@paytonthompson8659]

@@supergaga1712 was that an actual offer in 2013 though? I can’t see the clippers agreeing to that..

[@chozenboi]

If KD had joined San Antonio and won a championship or 2 there his legacy would be MUCH much greater, hell I think if he even stayed in OKC and didn't win a singe ring but still was the mvp arguably best player in the league type player for a few more years his legacy would be higher than what it is right now. It's honestly really sad to see that this man left his brother in Russell Westbrook, the city of Oklahoma that loved this man to death, he left them for the team that he was up 3-1 against and HE underperformed in those final 3 games against them, he, the last mvp not named Steph, joined said player on a 73-9 team the best record in league history, he left for the team that beat him and joined his rivals to beat his friends.

[@nickv3740]

Let’s be real if he joined San Antonio it’s still the same thing as joining a rival. The Spurs and Thunder had faced each other in the playoffs more times than the Warriors and Thunder did.

[@chozenboi]

@@nickv3740 except they didn't lose lmao they actually won, it's not the same thing and they a small-market team too.

[@nickv3740]

@@chozenboi doesn’t matter if they beat them that one year and that they were a small market team lol. Both the Warriors and Spurs were championship contenders and they would have been stacked either way with KD. There were going to be fans ticked as well if he joined San Antonio.

[@chozenboi]

@@nickv3740 obviously no shit people are gonna have something to say no matter what you do even if he had stayed in OKC people woulda said what an idiot staying on that team. the point is the spurs would have been by far the best option when it comes to his legacy and chance of winning.

[@nickv3740]

@@chozenboi best option in chances of winning? No. His best chances of winning clearly were with the Warriors. As far as legacy? Definitely not the Warriors or the Spurs. He also would have been looked at as joining a stacked team because the Spurs had won 67 games without him and had two stars on their team already.

[@rickDArula]

Charles Barkley might not be an NBA champion, but he's a champion in life cuz he keeps it REAL

[@VinayakPande53]

Blew a 3-1 lead and joined the team that he blew it to. What exactly was good about his move?

[@sujalgautam9761]

What? He won 2 chips out there you think this wasn't a good move for kd?

[@VinayakPande53]

@@sujalgautam9761 Needing the help of the team that embarassed him. Everything about his move to Golden State, including the wins and how he left was weak as hell.

[@kennyallen6286]

Well it is Kevin Durant's decision? Whoever stopping his relatives his buddies? Because even if the fans cheer him to stay? It's like Shannon Sharpe said: I couldn't care less what the fans think what I did? I do what I do oh, I do whatever I want!!! How it's Durant's decision? We can't take that away from him

[@VinayakPande53]

@@kennyallen6286 But we can judge him on it. And it was a super soft move. If he couldn't stand playing with Westbrook, he could have gone to any other team to lead it to the Finals. But he chose to piggyback on Steph, Klay, Draymond and Iguodala.

[@kennyallen6286]

@@VinayakPande53 Russell is always a ball hog? He doesn't learn how to reline on his teammates... I miss seeing how Brussels play in the game and he doesn't play it like team effort? He gave OKC 9 years, 9 chances and nothing changed so what do you expect for him? Don't give up try one more time again? Look up LeBron! Sure his side of his story was different circumstance but he gave up to?.... at the end of the day a superstar has a right to go anytime they want whatever the heart team or an easy team

[@djones2170]

The worst part was it destroyed the competition for the next 2 years, I watched the Warriors that 73-9 season they were must watch T.V. playing at a whole different speed than the rest of the league, they pushed themselves to get the record then ended up getting dragged into a couple 7 game playoff series and gassed out, but they were still clearly the best team in the league they just need to shoot for more modest win totals like 67 so they stay fresh for the playoffs, so even after they lost I still thought they were the team to beat but knowing the Cavs had found a way made the next season's potential very exciting especially since OKC blew a 3-1 lead to the Warriors so there was that dynamic, even though Golden State had the edge it was still gonna be interesting to see it play out then in one fail swoop the league is flipped upside down and it took 2 years and an Achilles injury to get back to competitiveness, another decision that I think doesn't get talked about enough is Kwahi Leonards decision to leave Toronto for the Clippers, they had all the right pieces, beating the Warriors even with Durant injured was pretty impressive, now it's like Kwahi doesn't even exist anymore

[@desean3402]

Greg Anthony nailed it. He left for the same reason Bron left even if the moves are different. The moves are for the same reason

[@lilbru]

Michael Jordan on the pistons would've been ill af. Him Isaiah mahorn lambeer and rodman with Daly as the coach? Man they would've won or made it to 4 straight at least

[@reimixo]

The pistons got to 3 finals in a row and won 2 back to back Lost One because isiah got injured... 5 straight ECF... With Jordan they win 7 straight 86-92... Atleast...

[@kokjunyong6405]

Imagine Jordan have a Westbrook that fuck up the whole team chemistry and style. I think Jordan would have leave Chicago for pistons

[@trusttheprocess3337]

@@kokjunyong6405 KD himself said that he didn't had any problems with Westbrook. On his accident with the burner account, he said that the whole team was only KD and Westbrook.

[@trusttheprocess3337]

@@kokjunyong6405 Also, Jordan is far more competitive than KD. MJ hates the Pistons, he would want to beat them no matter what.

[@patrickgrady7505]

I would have had no issues with Jordan and Ewing together.

[@nigelmceachern505]

At 5:22 Greg had a good point that I would not have thought of…

[@alikaan5968]

That's Grant Hill my man

[@mrclean9513]

@@alikaan5968 manz said greg💀💀💀

[@pdfbanana]

greg??

[@20marvelman]

Anybody know where to watch this full epsiode?

[@Justwatching-yc1sg]

It’s just the fact he joined team that beat him

[@SithLordNefaar022]

Exactly. The *height* of sucker shit 💯🙄

[@tntcrewEJ]

That’s the only issue I have! Like why join a team you just lost to?!

[@chauncey9805]

looking back just thinking about kd playing for golden state makes me sick.

[@m_thaOutKast]

I know this move wasn't entirely based on locale and everything. But I'm just curious, would kd have left if he was still in Seattle and the sonics still existed?

[@HoopsRaccoon]

Yes, because they would’ve had the same team.

[@mattdotts]

Just look at the preseason game he played in Seattle 2018. A love affair. So stupid he was forced to leave there

[@shakool7649]

If he wasn’t happy with OKC he is allowed to leave , but it’s where he went to and how he did it that is the issue.

[@StacyOh1717]

👏👏👏louder for the people in the back!! That’s what frustrates me about this never ending debate…it’s not about him leaving…it’s about where he went.

[@micocards9372]

KD made the decision for himself to go to GSW and get himself 2 rings. We, as fans of basketball, have the right to criticize his decision just as we did with Lebron. The difference here is that Lebron created a superteam. KD joined the greatest shooter of all time who was also the reigning 2x MVP, a top 3 shooter of all time, and (at the time) first team all defense player. KD at the time was a top 3 player in the NBA. No matter how you look at it, that’s too stacked. No team in history can beat them.

[@vanjones1749]

There's no such thing to me as too stacked, no one called the 96 Bulls too stacked. And they had the best team I would even say a super team.

[@benjaminan1183]

Even though the 17 Warriors were the best of all time, I'd say the current Nets, 17 Cavs, 13 Heat, 87 Lakers, 01 Lakers, 05 Spurs, 95 Rockets, 14 Spurs, 19 Raptors, 96 Bulls, 08 Celtics & 96 Magic could take them 2 or 3 times out of 10.

[@ILOV3BUTT3R]

@@benjaminan1183 I don't think the 01 Lakers or 14 spurs get talked about enough

[@ao1461]

Shi was a super team for one year lmao, Bron was the super team.

[@micahmartens7770]

At the end of the day, you have to admit that Russ was a big reason for Durant leaving. Word has come out since that KD went to management and asked them to control Russ, to try to talk some sense into him because EVER important, high-leverage situation brought out the worst in Russ, when the lights were the brightest Russ tried to play hero ball, dominate the ball when you’ve got one of the best offensive players ever, a clutch player, in KD on the court. Look at how Russ played in those games when GSW came back from 3-1. In the clutch, terrible shot selection, turnovers, terrible shooting %. Durant was tired of Russ playing like HE was MJ in the 4th, asked management to address it, they couldn’t, so he was gone. He KNEW he couldn’t win w Russ style of ball, especially in a league that had become all about distance shooting (what Russ is the worst in the league at). And KD is right. Russ hasn’t left the 2nd round since, despite playing w PG13, Melo, Harden, Steven Adams, etc. That’s at the foundation of why he left. He was tired of the ball-dominant, stat padding, ball hog Russ and knew that if management wouldn’t do anything he would have to go win elsewhere. No coincidence he chose the most unselfish, ball-movement team in the league to go to. It’s all pretty obvious

[@brandonb3174]

Well that reveals that KD isn’t a leader because if he was the top dog he would address it directly with Russell.

[@richardturner1063]

The last 3 MVP's (2014, 2015 , 2016) joined together on a 73 win team. why? SMDH The 73 win team before, was 3 points away from being back to back NBA champions. GTFOH Lebron's Fear Factor that stephen a talks about is real.

[@ekowtachiemenson3497]

Why did this show stop?

[@Renegades182]

Its only ok when Lebum does it, he started the super team era of players in their prime.

[@alc5742]

‘08 Celtics?

[@otismichael2583]

KD could've went to any other team except Lebron's and people would've been ok with that. Everybody pretty much figured he was gonna leave anyway. But the fact that he went to the team that beat him, the team he was up against and should've beat is just disgusting. The warriors should not have been a dynasty. But he got his rings tho.

[@SicksProductions]

I imagine the league is better when it was like NBA Jam, where I could pick from any team and have stars wherever

[@lemuelreyes1941]

LeBron joined his brothers to beat his enemies, Durant joined his enemies to beat his brothers

[@Knuckles0918]

You just wanted to sound cool because he did not join golden state to beat the thunder 😂😂

[@mstringer10]

Basketball is a competitive sport it always has been. In order to be the best you had to beat the best and if you didn't you still had your respect. LeBron teamed up with some of the best Wade/Bosh so that he could beat the Celtics. Durant and the rest of the league has followed. Jordan got his ass beat by Detroit for years he didn't go join Barkely/Ewing in order to beat them. He stuck with what he had and helped develop Pippen and Grant until they were good enough to help him win. That's competing in my opinion

[@shivumagarwal]

Cuz wade and bosh were better than the Celtics lmfaooo

[@mstringer10]

@@shivumagarwal that's my point.

[@kennyallen6286]

At the end of the day it's all about championships? No Superstar is going to wait for a long time to walk away from the game of basketball and not have something on their resume? It would be more better if they didn't care if there were the greatest or whatever???

[@christiankarlkarganilla2763]

I still haven't fully forgiven KD for leaving OKC to go to Golden State.

[@pasc.zeke25]

Me too dude. Im a effin nobody. But as a die hard basketball fan. Maaaan. Im a hater of lebron from 2010-2014 but when kd decide to join the gsw. I switched to bron bron LOL. kd also robbed us a GSW-OKC rematch or OKCvsCLE finals :(

[@kingdongo4388]

props to giannis for staying

[@therealpvc2541]

giannis didnt have to go through the Heatles he played a young Suns team

[@kingdongo4388]

@@therealpvc2541 an amazing suns team

[@tntcrewEJ]

@@kingdongo4388 that suns team was nothing special imo they could’ve lost in each round if they faced a healthy team. Not taking credit away from Giannis cause he was injured as well but the suns were pretenders in my eyes.

[@kingdongo4388]

@@tntcrewEJ you might as well call ‘Lakers and Heat bubble frauds’...

[@therealpvc2541]

@@kingdongo4388 Giannis caught a break. I was talking about the Heatles which in this case was the 2012 Miami Heat who faced KD and OKC that season. Giannis would have stood no chance against the Heat he caught a break by playing a decent Suns team.

[@1ZosoLZ]

What episode is this from?

[@Spider-Complexion]

Aye don’t worry C Webb. I’m apart of this new generation that grew up and witnessed the news of Kd joining GS, breaking out. I was at the gym and everyone on the bball court was talking about it and calling out how bogus it was for Kd to do that 😂

[@paj8837]

One great example would be if Patrick Ewing had joined the bulls after he lost to them in the playoffs he faced the bulls like 5 times and only beat them once when Michael Jordan was playing baseball and Patrick Ewing was top 5 players in the NBA at that time for years

[@chayamchrisore5826]

And you guys had a segment laughing at kd for not getting a ring....case dismiss

[@tracykershjr5649]

Nah it’s bigger than that and they’re opinions are more efficient matter than his

[@chayamchrisore5826]

I sometimes have rewrite my comments rush or doing to much but can't respond to that comment

[@levihawkins6211]

"Kevin cant beat em join em Durant"

[@fitzgerald434]

The fact that KD was up 3-1 against the warriors and then joins that very team that never really needed him in the first place was a weak move

[@Mythssb]

The Warriors needed him though. They weren't gonna win those years without him and it was proven in 2016 and 2019

[@dualityofman1253]

The NBA sucked for the last 10 years because of bandwagon players like KD & Lebron. Giannis Antetokounmpo is a far greater Champion for staying loyal to the Bucks and winning a title with them this year.

[@leemiranda4192]

Do you guys stop making videos I loved this show

[@bowsershark]

Mike had a franchise that would build a team. KD was close to Harden and management shipped James out over a few bucks. Then, KD figured he had no shot with Westbrook. So, he left for better management, better coaching, better team work and a chance to win a title.

[@vanjones1749]

Agreed, and plus people dont state the Warriors wanted him as well

[@sc-sportscompilations5753]

But OKC had a 3-1 lead over the Warriors. Those championships don’t count in my book.

[@bowsershark]

@@sc-sportscompilations5753 And, okc was out coached by the other team. That is another reason why KD left. And, KD was not just a 2 time ring winner. He was mvp. Yup, those rings count. His butt is in a sling legacy wise if he and his crew screw up their years in Brooklyn.

[@otismichael2583]

I understand that but damn. Spurs, Rockets anybody else but the team that beat you bruh damn

[@bowsershark]

@@otismichael2583 It was a high paying job with great personnel and great upside. And, the new team mates embraced him instead of treating him like garbage. Truth is, most people would have made his decision. The opportunity was a one in a lifetime chance. Plus, the Boston people threw him away like trash. And, he had a chance to rub their faces in the poop he luckily stepped in at Miami.

[@nobuenomapsz7453]

Chris webber #WellSaid i agree 💯

[@ycfuxo8046]

That “super team” only lasted 2 good years

[@martinmai4955]

It was supposed to be only lasted that long. The only reason they can sign KD is because of Steph’s contract. Once they renew his contract there is no room for them to operate. If KD stays another year they need to get rid of everyone except Klay and sign a bunch of g league players

[@BrooklynBornTy]

Forced super teams at most can last for 4 years because you can't pay everyone max money, but super teams built through the draft can last a decade plus because teams will have players bird rights and can go over the cap for their own players that they drafted

[@therealpvc2541]

@@BrooklynBornTy i.e the Spurs dynasty they had a super team for 20 years

[@ELB1337]

Was this a tnt segment ?

[@MrRasnowman]

Isaiah one of the best heels in nba history ever

[@bowsershark]

It is called free agency. Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you can't play with teammates or management is not on the same page, leave!

[@chasemichael6008]

Nobody is saying he wasn't right to leave. The point is that it's a weak move to go to a team that: A) Beat you in the WCF the previous year including coming back from 3-1 because you underperformed. B) Won a record number of games the previous year. It just reeks of a cheap move.

[@JohnOnlySpeaks]

im sure the old players wouldve loved to team up

[@snorlaxwithabattleaxe9149]

It’s akin to Jordan joining the bad boy pistons after he lost

[@Release-Topic-b4d]

Or Lebron joining the Golden State after 2015 loss... Damn , that team would've went 82-0. And a 5 peat too...

[@wunderkid8749]

Ppl wants to defend KD by saying he left bc of Westbrook. Man cut it out. Westbrook and the rest of the team were great the first 4 games by leading 3-1. They choked as a team. Both Russ and Kevin did not trust thzeir teammates in games 5, 6 and 7. It was to Coach Donovan to put a system where everybody share the ball. Westbrook is not Jordan. If KD and all the players in the locker room had a great conversation on how they wanted to play, ofc Russ would have change. But they did nothing. KD chose the easy by join the Warriors. Yes he got 2 rings. But even in 50 years, no one would forget his choice by joining Golden State. If it was San Antonio, the story would have not be the same.

[@MegaTroy12]

LoL if jordan went to pistons maybe they would go straight to finals upto late 90s. And maybe grant would not get injured lol

[@henrydorval7487]

KD's legacy would've been better if he joined the Wizards and played with John Wall & Bradley Beal winning a ring for his hometown of DC which was very possible, i can honestly see that team beating the Cavs in the ECF which can go either way but will definitely be a 7 game series, and then extract his revenge against the warriors in the 2017 finals this is a way better script for KD's legacy in my opinion! 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ao1461]

Seriously lmao, it wasn’t just ab him leaving. You don’t join a 73-9 squad that you lost a 3-1 lead too

[@henrydorval7487]

@@ao1461 Of course not that was a bitch move on KD'S part from a competitive standpoint he ruined the parity of the league that's why I said he should've went to DC he wasn't gonna win no title staying in OKC with Westbrook especially after they traded Serge Ibaka to the raptors that 2016 offseason

[@eligeorge1390]

Isiah Thomas is the most perpetually butt hurt petty person I’ve ever seen. Man, he can gold a grudge that plays into ever narrative he gives lol

[@tuntuu]

Grant Hill looks and sounds like Will Smith.

[@chayamchrisore5826]

Greg 💯 and kd would not win with Russell and or beat lebron with refs help on okc and Russell has shown since this day he couldn't get out 1st round....

[@teresa-oj9rq]

KD choked that 3-1 not just Russ

[@vanjones1749]

@@teresa-oj9rq they both did, so did the Warriors as well. Thats why they needed to play with one another

[@teresa-oj9rq]

@@vanjones1749 Needed? Ok whatever. KD should've man up and not throw his former team under the bus because KD played like trash in those games to

[@vanjones1749]

@@teresa-oj9rq GS did.need him or they would not have went out to the Hamptons and recruit him personally. Also they where weak at small forward and needed a closer to finish games, which KD did

[@teresa-oj9rq]

@@vanjones1749 I said whatever. KD,steph,klay &Dray needed to team up to beat LeBron, k.love & kyrie.. Then to beat LeBron, JR & k.love. Well ok that I know. But what does that have to do with KD throwing Russ etc under the bus?

[@edgariva12]

I mean he did join. But you see 2/3 he played in the finals he was finals MVP, iced the game, and SHINED out of that cast. And they lost when DURANT was hurt.

[@chedbeckford8067]

Ain't gonna win with Westbrook as your point guard. That's why he left.

[@stantonh1452]

It’s not that he left. It’s not even that he joined a super team. It’s that he joined the team that beat him.

[@JDHookEm]

Stop it you absolutely can win with Westbrook as your PG. OKC was up 3-1 on the Warriors I love how everyone blames Westbrook, but KD was just as responsible for the Thunder blowing that lead.

[@seaky763]

Kevin mchale always keeps it real

[@kokjunyong6405]

I still like KD decision til this day. He just want to play happily and do the best for himself. Free agency, trade and buyout. They are all player movement

[@henrydorval7487]

It's great for player movement but horrible from a competitive standpoint GS was going to the finals without him anyways all KD did was secure an easy path to a ring

[@rocktor1987]

Player empowerment is good. If you're in a bad situation you should be able to leave. The issue isn't him leaving OKC. It's about where he went to i.e golden state which was coming off a 73 win record. That was a weak move. If he had joined another good team that needed him to get over the jump, that would still be respectable. And it looks like he's only continuing the same trend. Stacking his Brooklyn team. I doubt if he'll ever win a chip that will be hard earned and respected

[@StacyOh1717]

Couldn’t have said it better myself. I don’t acknowledge his current rings. 🤣🤣

[@EmeWesley]

The problem is not that he leaved but the team he joined

[@unchboy]

There's a difference between developing into a superteam and manufacturing one. There's no longevity it's just a hit and run.

[@B3Smooth]

People often gloss over this part. But if the warriors win that year, does draymond still call KD from the parking lot?

[@USALeonHeart]

Of course not!

[@therealpvc2541]

And KD wouldn’t leave

[@igornovakovic6725]

Lol to say KD left for the same reason as Lebron is absurd that’s blasphemy. To say Lebron left to win a championship sam as KD is ridiculous. Yes Lebron left to win a chip because he had 0 chance of winning one in Cleveland that’s a FACT. KD left to win a championship but he clearly was so close to winning one in OKC far closer than Lebron was ever in Cleveland. So you cannot use that example and say they wanted to win a championship so they both left. Lebron took Hughes Ilgauskas Snow Pavlovic to the Finals and lost to Spurs dynasty and KD lost a 3-1 lead with KD Russ Adams Ibaka Kanter Payne Waiter Roberson Collison and GSW had Curry Klay Draymond who btw everyone consider trash I don’t just saying Iggy Barnes Bogut Livingston tbh not a huge difference than Lebron losing to The Spurs. Lebron left because Celtics made a great team in the East he wasn’t gonna take them on his own and nobody was coming to Cleveland to help him Pistons were there still and Bulls and Rose were coming up and he just couldn’t compete with them while playing 80 games a year and 45 minutes a game in the playoffs and still losing while Celtics build a big 4 in Boston. Lebron had every single reason to leave Cleveland he did everything he could there and took the team as far as they could go that’s a FACT he wasn’t getting any help in a small market team in that city no chance. KD left while 3-1 up to join Curry a back to back MVP and build a one of a kind Superteam that nobody could compete with that’s a FACT. What’s far worst to me is that KD than won two chips in GSW and same people who condemn him for leaving and said it was the weakest move by a superstar and he was ring chasing and he is weak than proceed to call him the best player in the world while having a super team go figure that out.

[@scordatura9259]

Not a kd fan in the slightest but nice essay

[@kaioken301]

Greg Anthony is 100% right. As are Isiah and McHale. If it wasn't a problem when Lebron stacked the deck then it shouldn't be one with any other superstar. How is it fair that Lebron gets to take the easy way out for over a decade now, but everyone else should stay put? KD and Golden State did nothing wrong. Neither is Brooklyn now. No fun when the rabbit gets the gun.

[@mddmdd8841]

It was a problem when lebron left.But he left to a miami team that just got bounced out in the first round and he,dwade and bosh built a new team to against another big 3 that was formed in boston.While KD left to join the 73-9 team,the team that won 2 season prior,made the finals after that and the same fcking team that beat him in wcf

[@kaioken301]

@@mddmdd8841 People need to stop whining about that. And let's add context to this. KD didn't join the exact same roster that went 73-9 and won a championship the year prior. He joined Steph, Klay, and Draymond. Their core players. The Warriors gutted the team to make room for him by letting EIGHT of their key rotational players leave. They went from having the deepest and most high scoring bench in basketball to near the bottom of the barrel. A superteam is a superteam. Why it was formed is irrelevant. The point is that they are formed for an easy path to a championship. Both Lebron and KD have chosen to build their legacy's by taking that easy path. Is what it is now.

[@selfmade8884]

@@kaioken301 No, he went to the team that beat him. No amount of excuses and mental gymnastics can change that fact. That was the most cowardly move in sports. They could have dethroned golden state. Instead he joined up with the same guys he choked against.

[@kaioken301]

@@selfmade8884 No "mental gymnastics" involved. Did KD form a superteam in GS? Yes. Did Lebron form a superteam in Miami? Yes. No amount of mental gymnastics can convince me one is somehow worse than the other.

[@selfmade8884]

@@kaioken301 KD didn’t form a super team. He joined a team that had already won a championship, set the single season record for wins in a season, and had another mvp, and had just eliminated him in the playoffs after he and his teammates choked away a 3-1 lead. Lebron didn’t join the Boston Celtics, who were kicking his ass, or the Orlando Magic, who eliminated him from the playoffs. KD is weak. KD went to the team that had just made the nba finals. KD went to the best team in the league. Lebron didn’t do any of that. I’m not even a Lebron guy but I have to call it down the middle. What KD did was completely different than what Lebron did. People try to justify what KD did by bringing up Lebron but it’s BS.

[@sportingminds3311]

They going to have to do 2.0 of this shit lol

[@johnwick8516]

Lebron was criticized for leaving the CLE Durant was criticized for joining the GSW !

[@RRswag70]

In this clip Chris Webber looks like a bored kid at a family reunion listening to his aunts and uncles talk.

[@sanjithechef]

Webber right

[@DaddiKyree]

Its like Allen Iverson leaving Philly for l.a after the finals in 2001

[@looechange7966]

Nobody blame LeBron James for losing at finals in 2007! What is Greg Anthony talking about. His toughest critics didn't blame him for losing at finals!

[@kaioken301]

How didn't you get what he was saying? He's saying that when a team with a great player loses and never gets a chip together, people never say "That team never won a championship". They say "(Insert great player's name here) never won a championship" or "(Insert great player's name here) lost to whatever team in the playoffs. Example: Charles Barkley balled out for Philly and Phoenix, but never had players around him step up. But to this day, people say "Barkley never won a ring". As the best player on a team, the spotlight will always be on you whether you win or lose. Be it fair or unfair, that responsibility is what comes with that type of power. Always has.

[@looechange7966]

@@kaioken301 because that's not what he was saying that all that's how I didn't get what your interpretation of what he was saying is. Because you're absolutely wrong! The fact of the matter is LeBron James almost universally gets a pass for 2007! Just like I said now if you were to do your due diligence and do your homework you will realize that they don't get to the finals that year if it wasn't for some big games from Boobie Gibson where LeBron James didn't step up and wasn't his normal self orbit James from zydrunas ilgauskas when LeBron James wasn't exactly himself and big games from Larry Hughes that bailed LeBron out throughout that playoff run Plus various so-called players that LeBron James did not have on his team. Go back and look when Booby Gibson scored 31 and they close out game

[@kaioken301]

@@looechange7966 You're arguing a different point. I'm not absolving Lebron of anything. I'm saying I understood what GA was saying. I believe he does get passes for things he shouldn't because those Cavs teams won 60 games in back to back seasons, Miami was no charity case, nor was Cleveland the second time around. I'm just saying his point about having to "fall on the sword" when you're a teams best player is, or at least was, the law of the land. I get what you're saying and agree, but I also believe his statement was true in general. Not in regards to Lebron specifically.

[@kennyallen6286]

Cuz LeBron had no business and not finals? He's right about that he had no business in the championship yet? Because it's Squad we're not even good

[@vanjones1749]

@@kaioken301 well said and true

[@rasharbanks1392]

GA made a good point.

[@thebellhop]

Great discussion here

[@mrburnz6414]

we always gotta bring lebron up 🤦🏿‍♂️😭 keep the conversation on kd🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Wyndamn]

EXACTLY 😂😂😂 Everything is LeBron's fault somehow.

[@robbyrobinson4500]

These guys flip teams cause that's how they did it in AAU ball. AAU calls kids up to come play with their team to just win a tournament, then he goes back to his normal team. It's normal for these new guys to bounce around. Even the top h.s. teams bring in kids from other states to play for them. I hate it but it needs to start with AAU, as far as some sort of guidelines

[@liambenjamin2827]

Now him and kyrie made a super team who are injury prone.

[@Longpipejang]

This is the difference between fanboys and real men. As a man there's no way I'm putting negative energy into another man's life decisions. Durant did what he thought was best for him and he whooped lebron twice. Congrats, move on. This like getting mad at a cable man for moving from Comcast to DirecTV and the situation was better for him. You dudes need a life. A real one.

[@dopeascopebrother60]

It has nothing to do with his decision as a man. It ruined basketball for a few years because the warriors were too good. It was like teenagers playing against little kids. Stop acting like your so fucking smart dude. We dont give a fuck about his life decisions we just hate that there was ZERO parity. Once again go fuck yourself we are allowed to have opinions too

[@Longpipejang]

@@dopeascopebrother60 the only relevant thing you said was you last point. This is your opinion. Who gaf if it hurt your feelings your daddy lebron lost. It's a game . It's way more important things to get pissy about. You sound like woman with her heart broken. Go experience real life weirdo. I am Kd is. But you sitting in your momma house mad a millionaire, weirdo

[@SithLordNefaar022]

KD had to go to GS to "whoop" Lebron, the same team he (KD) blew a 3-1 lead to & that Lebron came back & beat from being down 3-1. He said himself he don't feel like a real champion thats all you need to know

[@richardturner1063]

The last 3 MVP's (2014, 2015 , 2016) joined together on a 73 win team. why? SMDH The 73 win team before, was 3 points away from being back to back NBA champions. GTFOH Lebron's Fear Factor that stephen a talks about is real. 🤫

[@Kingdizzleltdinc615]

They only thing I didn’t like about the move is that’s the team he lost to,up 3-1,with Westbrook killing Curry

[@kennethalexander9515]

Everybody wants the easy way to a ring

[@Zaymane808]

As a teen in hs i called kd a snake like many other people. But now that ik more abt basketball he wasn’t. Okc didnt do too great of a job with kd and Westbrook tbh. Scott brooks is trash. From 2013-15 either kd, russ or both were injured. So ion blame him for leaving. But those warriors moves were op💀🤦🏾‍♂️

[@richardanthony2152]

Imagine if the thunder would of let Russ go and kept harden sheesh

[@olanrewajuogunse7177]

Mj was different, with the Piston it was personal. KD was just business.

[@dwaynecousar2595]

I’m 5 years late but I was a die hard okc fan die hard KD fan I’m not mad that he left it’s the fact u was 1 game away twice from beating that team man and u go join them bruh and just ruin the league it’s just soft bruh he coulda went anywhere but he chose the team that beat em

[@pabl0sauced0]

If your mad a guy wasn't loyal to a billion dollar trademark that would get tid of him in a heartbeat and took control of his destiny to go to a team that fit his play style and was near silicon valley. KD is a tech enthusiast and made part of his fortune investing there. Going to Golden State was a business/mind cleanse move😂

[@looechange7966]

LeBron James never gets the blame! 2011 was definitely LeBron James's fault. But if you talk to most people there are underlying circumstances why he didn't perform in the finals

[@bamboozled939]

Bro he still gets killed for it , everybody blames him, ima huge lebron fan and i blame him for that loss.

[@looechange7966]

@@bamboozled939 here's the truth. Most people give LeBron passes for everything that he does! Keep in mind you have players who are saying I don't want to play with LeBron James because it's a toxic environment. What they mean by that is LeBron James almost receives 100% of the credit for every win. But none of the credit for a loss! People forget that Dwyane Wade was already a champion before he linked up with LeBron James! LeBron James deliver the championship to Cleveland after he missed the go-ahead shot four times in a row and Kyrie Irving came through and cleaned it up! LeBron James won championships with 3 teams!

[@controversialmann5345]

@@looechange7966 Nah Bron gets both his has toxic stans and toxic haters.

[@looechange7966]

@@controversialmann5345 when a man makes a quote saying that he's the goat, that includes his whole Legacy. That means you can't erase certain things from his career in order to spot clean his legacy! 2007 is almost universally recognized as a NBA finals that is expunged from LeBron james' Legacy! Even the worst of the LeBron James haters give him a pass for that one!

[@looechange7966]

@@controversialmann5345 we are talkin this man's Legacy. We are talking things that really happened. This is where the toxic LeBron James fan comes into play! Leaving Cleveland to go link up with a Champion by the name of Dwyane Wade! The toxic LeBron James fan wants us to forget that Dwyane Wade was already a champion! The toxic fan wants us to forget in 2011 the 17.9 points per game that Lebron James average in the finals. The toxic fan wants us to forget the eight point game in the NBA finals in 2011... The toxic fan wants us to forget the two bronze medals that LeBron James brought back to America. The toxic fan wants us to forget that LeBron James had a 24 plus point-per-game score on each one of his championship teams other than himself. The toxic LeBron James fan also wants us to forget that LeBron James has played with teammates that have a total of 130 All-Star selections.

[@vanjones1749]

Man let it go the Warriors needed him and he needed them, they won I have no problem. If they lost then I would have shook my head but they won.. people act like teams dont try and draft or trade foe the best chances to.win this unwritten honor garbage is silly

[@miguelpaulolomantas2500]

on point man, people tends to forget that nba is business, each team operates as a business company, they'll do everything in their power to be successful and hired one of thr best in the business. Smh these butthurt fans till now thinks life is like a fairytale, lol

[@vanjones1749]

@@miguelpaulolomantas2500 well said bro, well said.

[@thecookj454]

How the fuck did the warriors need Durant? that is laughable. They made it to the finals back to back and set the league record for most wins a regular season without him the season before he joined. He put a stain on the nba when he joined that team and I hope players don’t follow what he did in the future it’s uncompetitive and soft and one of those unwritten rules that players have always followed. He sucked up to the team he lost to

[@vanjones1749]

@@thecookj454 man you 2 months late on this debate but welcome to the party. With that said aga8n, I ask why did they in your opinion recruit, by flying out to the Hamptons to talk to th his man, who they just beat. What in your opinion do you think they made this move?

[@thecookj454]

@@vanjones1749 What do you mean "why do you think they recruited him?" Every team in the league was trying to recruit him, hes Kevin Durant. Its just the fact that he joined the team he almost beat in the wcf and joined them like a sore loser. He left a aready great title contending team to the 73-9 warriors and not a single team in the league was competable, how is that fair. Its like karl malone losing to mj and then saying fuck it im gonna join him cause I cant win in utah

[@mattdotts]

Nobody brings up the point that KD was screwed having his team leave Seattle, a storied franchise in the Sonics. Forced to move to...Oklahoma!!? I love that he screwed over the thunder, who should've never had a team in the first place.

[@make-outseries831]

It’s unbelievable how these guys just lie all show wtf ...

[@maddenjunkie4463]

one word Kareem

[@benjihuynh2970]

Jeez man that would be like Charles Barkley (an MVP) joining a 2-time champion Houston rockets. Smh never would've happened in the 90's (Sarcasm)

[@amoggvenkat710]

I mean he was way past his prime when he joined the rockets. Steph, KD, and Klay were in their prime in 2017

[@musicmonster3033]

Kevin Durant is weak and overrated he did absolutely nothing in OKC and that doesn't get talked about enough

[@aone1369]

They didn’t answer the question. It’s not the fact that he wanted to leave OKC for one reason or another. It’s the team he went to after having them down 3-1 and loosing to them. I don’t care how you slice it… that is a punk move to go join the team you couldn’t beat. You don’t like your current team, fine… leave. You don’t like the city, fine…leave. Just don’t go to the team you couldn’t take off. That’s not competitive it’s cowardly. 8yrs or so later you can still see KD is a mental midget.

[@balamkinich7968]

Yall are still mad at KD? Wow. I bet yall were happy for Lebron to Join Miami back then though.

[@balamkinich7968]

@Trey Brooks So Lebron didnt call up Bosh in Toronto so they could go join Wade? But you mad about KD being signed by a team that actually drafted and built their team

[@stevedickerson7734]

If you don’t understand how they situations were different you should just stop talking basketball right now just stop please smh

[@OldChanCharlie]

Both quit on their team, they gave up. They both took easy street. Plain and simple. Nothing wrong with it but it is what it is.

[@OldChanCharlie]

66-16 team at one point. They would’ve eventually gotten past Boston and got a chip.

[@balamkinich7968]

@@stevedickerson7734 they situations were barely different. If anything If you wanna be situational.... Lebron made the weaker move. KD got recruited by a good team, 'The Hampton's 5' ......... .we all know the story... Lebron called 2 All Stars and decided to break the East. Kd got recruited by a team that was built entirely through drafting... And lebron even stole 3 players to come with h8m from miami to cleveland. Neither are bad decisions. Acting like Lebron did better is asinine.

[@jerishigan6567]

KD still ain’t got no rings. Phony.

[@richardturner1063]

The last 3 MVP's (2014, 2015 , 2016) joined together on a 73 win team. why? SMDH The 73 win team before, was 3 points away from being back to back NBA champions. GTFOH Lebron's Fear Factor that stephen a talks about is real. 🤣

[@edmarjasonlorzano7007]

The move was very weak ngl but It gave birth to an entertainment basketball in 2017 not in the playoffs tho.

[@mattdotts]

Elaborate