openai hates artists for doing this

[@wasabiato]

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[@LokiScarletWasHere]

>shits on openai >uses bluesky, an ai training platform I shiggy diggy

[@helloagain.andagain.andagain]

this man has AI living in his head rent free

[@pedikun]

wtf is blue sky

[@direccioncinco-h7z]

Artists should probably get their heads out of their a$$es and organize to sell their work as training packs for AI. Otherwise they will just get abused. You wont stop AI making art, it costs, esp game devs, too much money to have YOU do it, so obv they will use AI. So instead of losing out on a career you good at, adapt, organize and make orgs that hold artists work for licensing to train AI models. There used to be a lot of stable masters and farriers before ICE. They all got their jobs deleted inside of a decade. And we made it out just fine. Society will not be slowing down progress so that artists can keep working directly as artists. You all just train AI now. And thank gawd for that. You and the coders were making games cost way too much money to be viable.

[@LokiScarletWasHere]

@@direccioncinco-h7z AI companies don't buy training data. Not from the data's *owners* anyway. They scrape it or hire a data broker to do it for them.

[@PoorlyMadeSweater]

Them: "Give me your art so I can use it to generate images and steal your clients" Us: "No." Them: "STOP ABUSING US!!!"

[@JaxonElzinga]

Generative AI art isn't theft, that's a major cope. I'm a broke fuck who can't afford commissions, so I use AI for shit. I'm not sorry about that. It's like piracy: You'd never pay for the product to begin with, so the company who made the software/movie/game isn't losing revenue.

[@interlapsed]

​@@JaxonElzingaif it isn't theft then where does it get the art it references from?

[@BluelStar]

@@JaxonElzinga oh my god you’re so ignorant

[@Calipsopawzz]

@@JaxonElzingabuddy….

[@citruscustrd3057]

@@JaxonElzinga yes, because preservation of lost media/not wanting to deal with greedy companies while still enjoying the real work creatives put into games and making a crude amalgamation of stolen artwork from mostly small artists is exactly the same thing.

[@astrea555]

Absolutely unhinged. It's as absurd as calling a lock "abuse" because it protect someone's house.

[@andrewpojo1]

This is abuse, let me in your house so I can steal your stuff!

[@frogmanjr]

FR

[@vuxl]

it’s like saying a security camera is “abuse” because trying to put ME in prison is a violation of MY rights when im trying to steal from your house

[@priestychan1668]

I even saw (in Japanese) a post saying claiming that after you “signed off your rights” by TOS, if you use nightshade and break some billionaires AI model we are legally punishable for destroying their property. Lol That’s equivalent of “I’ve made an insecticide laced cake due to repeated break ins, thief would took my valuables plus food…. Then when that same criminal breaks in and steals the cake that’s written “do not steal” on the container along with other stuff again, that I’m liable for his hospitalization?”

[@missrebel634]

That’s how you know they’re thieves

[@Ivytheherbert]

OpenAI won't even pay in exposure, did they expect no one to fight back against their industrial theft?

[@AndrejusDovidaitis]

Paying in exposure is the cheapest form of payment in existence and yet they can’t even do that

[@victornoel36]

Never in my life as an artist I would've expected to see the day where commissioners paying in exposure would to be considered more generous.

[@metris5402]

lol, they are not saying that they stealing art, they just say that it was impossible, basically they download all internet to train the chatgpt

[@monkeyanimationandgaming]

@metris5402 training it off of peoples art... without paying them... and without crediting them...

[@marylandj3228]

Regular exposure never paid! But yeah they need to give us our shit back!

[@Aickelodeon]

It's like thieves claiming your home security system is abuse 💀

[@chillbizz74]

they are hell bent on AI being the "future"

[@Ableth]

Remove the dog in your lawn, come on bro, dawg be fair...

[@VacantMinded]

Fun fact legally it is, at least boobytrapping is… I don’t doubt the corporations will push for similar laws as they embrace AI more and more.

[@sakamocat]

"Hey! Vsauce, Michael here. Your home security is great... or is it?"

[@S13l_Um3n0]

@@sakamocat this made my day😭😭

[@zekkriel]

the gnomes infesting my house and stealing my food tell me that the rat poison is ”abuse”

[@ConflictingJumps]

I got gnomed indirectly by your comment

[@greenstarforce001]

Gnomes?

[@MichaelMcDoesntExist]

@@greenstarforce001 Yeah, gnomes. You pretending you’ve never had a gnome infestation in your wizard tower?

[@seijinstars]

​@@ConflictingJumpsi used to hate that meme (get gnomed), i kind of miss it now

[@DreamersOfReality]

Okay, but think about the poor, unsuspecting predators dying because they're swallowing up poisoned gnomes 🥺 (This comment has nothing to do with AI.)

[@remor698]

Journalist: "Did you encounter any poisoned data samples?" OpenAI: "No comment." Journalist: "So what's your opinion on the tools that poison potential data samples?" OpenAI: "They're abusive to our operations." Okay, so the answer to that first question was "Yes." Got it.

[@okaydetar821]

Imagine not realizing that's what they want you to think, if you think your tools are working, you wont think you need to make new ones.

[@vinniesmith4343]

​@@okaydetar821 then someone will say that they are finding ways around it, then Nightshade and Glaze will adapt to continue to poison the dataset. Fighting ai with ai is a stalemate that benefits artist and people working on things similar to Nightshade and Glaze. Generative ai gets more advanced so does Nightshade.

[@AaaaNinja]

It's abusive to force them to invest in countermeasures like tools that detect poisoned work lol. The Nightshade pages say Models can't be trusted to comply with opt-out/in lists out of the goodness of their heart so they're making it so that non-compliance with permission avenues carries risk. If stuff like Nightshade becomes prevalent then actual consent and licensing starts to look more appealing.

[@kier0063]

mfw when a company doing art theft for their „innovative“ system gets mad at artists for trying to protect their art from their sets

[@TheGhostFart]

my face when when

[@tinyslugcat]

abuse to... edit images we make? Which we own? sounds like the people at openai are a bunch of crybabies...

[@Luluflair]

not surprising if you look at their target audience who cry the same way

[@DarkFlamesDarkness]

Abuse to the program that wasnt meant to read that

[@MidnightEkaki]

I mean they are tech bros

[@louzo5175]

​@@DarkFlamesDarkness skill issue

[@mellow_mallow]

​@@DarkFlamesDarkness ok sorry they can't read. Sounds like a skill issue to me tbh

[@InvasionAnimation]

Guess the folks that claim glaze and nightshade doesn't work are actually lying as expected.

[@heiispoon3017]

For emerging brand new gen ai models, ns and glaze are lethal in terms of datasets. The other folks must be the ones using pre trained models or those with img2img methods. So please spread the night shade stuff wherever you go( glaze is ok too via web glaze, as long as what we post is poisoned)

[@anomalousanimates]

@@heiispoon3017 poisoned and incested

[@hw7003]

What I had heard was the issue was that it requires a certain amount of processing power or something from your computer and takes a while to apply to your art, and that not every artist had that hardware and time available to do that. But I've never tried glaze or nightshade as I just don't post my art anymore since I was never doing it for money anyway, so I can't speak from experience

[@AGK1999FE]

Yeah, I don't use that excuse. I guess I just feel safe enough posting my silly pixel art in a small discord server

[@EmperorBelosMyBeloved]

​@@AGK1999FE based, I love that for you. How silly is the art? (Also, pixel art is super hard; I have so much respect for people who do it.)

[@inbarkoren9112]

Yesterday I tried chat gpt's image generation, and not only does it get text perfectly right now, it also generated a SIGNATURE/WATERMARK. We NEED glaze, nightshade, or other tools like them because we are running out of ways to protect ourselves and our jobs, and if the ai bros start whining about it, then LET THEM CRY.

[@cyanthelouie]

imagine having shit ai generated images not only steal copyrighted material but also put *their own watermark* on it Someone just sue OpenAi and set a precedent so this thievery stops quickly

[@temperstar8411]

​@cyanthelouie I think op was talking about the AI generating an artist's signature in the image rather than a watermark of the software

[@cyanthelouie]

@@temperstar8411 actually... ai generated images shouldnt exist in first place but they already do.... now, ai putting any kind of watermark on it is another level of low, doesnt matter if its the ai's watermark or the plagied artist's watermark

[@feloniousbutterfly]

Blame ppl who stil use adobe garbage

[@Teddie-guru]

@@feloniousbutterflyblame adobe, not the people who use it

[@vid9170]

- "Adapt or die!" Artists adapt* - "NOOO!! ABUSE!"

[@mrgutsybat]

I imagine this dialogue with soyjacks

[@SnagTheRabbit]

"No wait, you weren't supposed to do that!"

[@panicclinic]

​@@mrgutsybathad that exact mental visual where the air bros face is boiling red throwing a tantrum. 😂

[@Likemea]

@@panicclinic air bros

[@thefriendlyallay]

@@Likemea because they're as skilled as air

[@lennyface6828]

KEEP IT UP ARTIST! KEEP PISSING OFF AI ART BROS

[@jerricho11]

We really need to stop calling them artists or their work art. It's not, it's an image generator. They aren't artists, they generate images based off prompts.

[@MuzikBike]

@@jerricho11 AI Fart Bros

[@CapucineNighly]

Gotta use both on my artworks.. I'll do it to protect my babies

[@dumaass]

@@jerricho11 well that's true, but also some human-made paintings that don't really try to convey anything and are only made for money are called art.

[@jerricho11]

@@dumaass Give examples, please.

[@AntheousKrii]

Artists: "Ok, It's not working out, I'm gonna need my art back." AI userbase: "Please, this is all I have. I'm nothing without AI." Artists: "If you're nothing without AI, then you shouldn't have it."

[@DiceTwenty]

True. I absolutely hate it if someone defended AI """artist""" because they aren't 'as talented' or they can't stand studying to better their art. Talent is bullshit, and if you don't put the amount of work and sacrifice others have put to get to where they are right now, then you are unfit to be called an 'artist'.

[@annierminx]

They think their little sob story will work out lmao. You think I give a fuck that you can't ever draw a single eye? or even CARE to LEARN how to?, boo fucking hoo. Art isn't you place then

[@smithynoir9980]

@@DiceTwenty I think that's really egotistical. If someone can make a piece that resonates with those that see it, the amount of work and sacrifice is irrelevant. Art isn't about the artist, it's about the emotion, feeling, connection etc that the piece evokes from those that see it.

[@fedethegreat88]

​@@smithynoir9980An AI can't create a piece that resonates with others. Not yet at least. For a piece to induce something in others, the artist needs to understand how humans work and what can induce those emotions. An AI doesn't understand humans, and the most it can do is take a work someone else made and copy that without any intent.

[@realmsthewitch8242]

Talent is real, but so is improvement. Coming from someone who has “talent” it is not able to carry. Their argument is the same as getting robot implants because they aren’t in good shape and want to lie that they are as strong as athletes in sports because of robot limbs they didn’t need when they could’ve trained, but that argument has MORE merit than in this situation.

[@MazdaTiger]

they said "adapt or die" we choose "adapt" and they cry when we did "adapt" like they asked us to lmao

[@TheGallantDrake]

"Adapt or die." "No wait not like that."

[@jonp8015]

They were *really* hoping artists would take the latter option.

[@justaguy8104]

Typically, those who scream the loudest about “Capitalism, git gud scrub” have found themselves in a highly advantageous position entirely by luck and are terrified that it is already time to abdicate that throne.

[@pittagiiya]

"When we said 'adapt' we meant 'give up on your hopes and dreams' how could you not understand that!?"

[@ellingtonf1097]

"Adapt or die." "I understand it now." "NO, STOP UNDERSTANDING!"

[@robinronin]

“Why did you add more locks to your door? It’s preventing me from stealing things that don’t belong to me! You know I’m too much of a talentless waste of space to do anything myself!”

[@aimfulRenegade]

that comparison does a disservice to thieves. Breaking into a house, stealing valuable items, and getting out requires some skill, and the people who do it are usually victims of a maligned system who have no other choice.

[@zavhyatta9795]

@@aimfulRenegade based

[@musicnightmare]

​@@aimfulRenegade I mean fair I guess because they have to have SOME talent to do it these people have none so they have a robot mass sweep the internet to make fake art for them which requires zero effort on their end but to turn on a machine made by someone else so they can sell fraudulent work. 😁

[@EmoKitsuneDesigns]

Lol I love how the article is like. creatives are losing the AI battle, Marvel used AI in Secret Wars... OK but Secret Wats BOMBED. LOL So many companies that have fired and replaced their artists with AI are being laughed at and it is painfully obvious they are using AI which devalues their entire brand.

[@achehex]

I think that bit of the article is more making the point that artists are already losing out on jobs. It might be funny that companies using AI are being laughed at, but that's still a potential job that no artists got to be paid for. Whether it's gonna be the same case long term or not, in the short term is already causing damage.

[@TheKaurK]

The show did not bomb because of its opening sequence. The show bombed because it wasn’t a good show. What you are saying is that if the title sequence was made by real artists, the same show wouldn’t bomb. And yet we have countless shows that have flopped even with human made title sequences. Now this doesn’t mean that AI art isn’t a red flag for overall quality of the show. AI generated art could be sign of cutting corners but that’s not always going to be the case either. As an example, good show can still have a mandate from the execs to use AI art opening titles regardless of what the creatives want and the creatives just don’t push back and make a compromise. Or another example where the writer turns into an AI bro and wants to create an AI title sequence for their own show. Yet another example would be where Open AI pays a good show a handsome sum of money to switch to AI generated titles. But those shows could still otherwise be very good, and be very well received by the public. .. despite a shitty AI art opening title. Not to mention that if AI becomes a staple in mainstream media and culture.. laughing at it would be a thing of the past and that would just become the new normal. So I’d be very careful here and not rely on the public thinking AI Art means bad quality. You and I know that AI spits out illogical bullshit that needs to be heavily corrected and you can never get it to give you exactly what you want but the public generally doesn’t care if it’s “good enough” at a glance. Most people.. unfortunately.. could not care less about an injustice that isn’t happening to them (which isn’t a good thing but speaks to the self serving nature of human beings).

[@captaincanterberrystudios6920]

What's Secret Wars

[@WeirdWimp]

@@captaincanterberrystudios6920 i only heard of it from civil war comics. not the show if thats what it is

[@consumerofbepsi5254]

​@@TheKaurK y'know it's almost like using AI to cut corners in production isn't really the Hallmark of a production that's gonna be good

[@bigkspicy8257]

Artists: Can we have opt in model? Ai bros: No, we can take whatever we want. Cope and seethe. Artists: Okay, I'm protecting my data. Ai bros: Noooo you have to let us steal your art 😭

[@i.j.dragonfly3123]

The entitlement is off the charts with these companies. "But artists are sabotaging our tools-" Tough. It's their own creations. They can do whatever they want with it. If a tech company wants a non-glazed version, they can pay the artist for it.

[@anothermiddleschoolburnout8816]

Fr. I'm not a fan of AI image generation but the best way to do this would be to hire a team of artists to draw the material to train your models on.

[@SynoicusK43]

@@anothermiddleschoolburnout8816That would take ages and be unrealistic, all people really want is an option to opt in instead of being forced into it

[@mykll_art]

​@@SynoicusK43And what's really the problem

[@fedethegreat88]

​@@mykll_artThe fact that they're being forced into it and not given an option?

[@botarakutabi1199]

@@SynoicusK43 If it's nor worth doing it right, maybe it isn't worth doing at all.

[@Tenshii_Artii]

They shouldn’t really need to hate us. We’re just trying to defend ourselves. It’s our natural response to something that we are so passionate about, and hold so dearly. After all, that’s what THEY do when we try to explain to them why AI threatens the creative concepts of artists. They are the ones who always want to belittle artists as a support to their views and arguments. It’s them who for some reason, are always so childish and lack consideration and empathy. Because actual artists and other level-headed people have recognised that it’s not entirely wrong to use AI…As a really minor tool. We don’t want it to actually overtake and completely erase creative art. We still want to create things with our own ideas, Mind and hands. But the reality is, we are still human. There are days where we are stuck on an art block. But all we need is a little vision or inspiration, and it helps us be set. Can you imagine how scary the idea that people like this think this is ‘abuse’? I bet the moment that of you give these people some kind of big power, they will gleefully try to take control and oppress others around them. Usually, the true Abusers would always blame the victim for everything, every time.

[@ennuiwolf]

DOn't you see? If I'm inconvenienced, I'M the one abused! If you're inconvenienced you're just pushing back against the future! (/s if not obvious)

[@shroomer3867]

Rules for thee but not for me!

[@darksidegryphon5393]

These people are about to get a whole lot of power.

[@nekoest]

oh no they can't freely make money off of your art and accelerate climate change

[@GwynC]

They don't hate you, it's a grift. They don't care beyond the money they can generate. These people don't believe in anything except for the Almighty Dollar.

[@Tallcakess]

The more that they seem to be afraid of Glaze/Nightshade, the more that we should use it. It just means that it really does work, and we will be able to protect our art. In fact, it makes me want to draw even more now, just so I can spread more poisoned art out there for the AI to suffer from.

[@anidiot1122]

I wish i can poisen my art (my pc cant use it)

[@pianopp1]

@@anidiot1122 ask someone on discord

[@smithynoir9980]

It's getting less effective as some models are learning to get around it, that said, use it. Use it and similar every time, the counter tools will continue to develop as well.

[@lefishe5845]

​@@smithynoir9980 the thing is this is a adblocker vs website type relationship. Sure the website may try to break the adblocker but there are so much more artists then there are art scrapers, and theyll constantly change the formula and keep posioning the well which the AI draws off

[@furina-slash-focalors]

@@smithynoir9980 just like a pathogen. really comes to show how AI image generation in itself is a virus lmao

[@grayanddevpdx]

it’s like serial killers claiming home security is abuse

[@williambarnes5023]

It's more like you telling someone to stop filming your house from their house across the street, and then you get so upset you put up blinds. And then them getting upset that you've put up blinds and calling it abuse. They get to film what's visible, you get to put up blinds.

[@randomfellow27]

​@@williambarnes5023wait that analogy is the best I've heard yet

[@CorazonMexica]

I'm not an artist, but this just motivates me to upload every image I post with Glaze and Nightshade.

[@feloniousbutterfly]

Yessss!!!

[@Sparkylmfaoooo]

YES! HELL YEAH

[@djmtv9616]

𝙷𝙴𝙻𝙻 𝚈𝙴𝙰𝙷 𝙱𝙰𝙱𝚈!!!!!!!!!

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Yeah, I'm not an artist, but after learning about what Nightshade does, I'll be adding it onto every image I upload anywhere. If nothing else, I am entertained imagining how the image could be "seen" by these algorithms. 😈👻

[@risxra]

Tbh it didn’t even occur to me that this was an option, but now I’m definitely keeping it in mind!

[@randomcitizen0]

*"protecting your work from us is abusive"* me : LMAO! **wheezing and continue putting 20+ glaze at my art**

[@trixiepixie837]

don't forget nightshade thats the tool that actually does damage (first nightshade and then glaze)

[@sunla]

​@@trixiepixie837nightshade just outputs black images for me. Not sure if I can remedy that, as it has to do with a gpu architecture incompatibility.

[@CapucineNighly]

Don't forget Nightshade. Gotta use both to be EXTRA sure. Poison their data collection as well as a giant FU. :)

[@djmtv9616]

𝚈𝚎𝚜✅👍

[@AtesSu2006.]

What these tools do actually

[@nostalgianinja]

2:30 - This is the same argument you would generally have with anticheat and hacks. It's a *constant* cat and mouse game. 5:30 - Consent is a large part of why people are so against AI. There was no consent to train our data, and it's a privacy and ownership violation as a result that there was no reasonable "hey can we do this" - It was scraped without any concern or thought for the current copyright law (DMCA, Copyright acts). 7:30 - Literally admitted a crime and they still haven't shut themselves down. smh

[@williambarnes5023]

They never needed consent to train with your data. They aren't TAKING your data. They're analyzing PATTERNS across a wide range of PUBLICLY AVAILABLE data, and their work is to determine the patterns. The patterns they've discovered are their own unique work. Just how like you "stole" the art of everyone YOU looked at when learning to draw.

[@n.m3677]

​@@williambarnes5023 🤡

[@CheeseThePurpleDragon]

@@williambarnes5023are you defending ai? They’re blatantly and shamelessly copy and pasting your work into their ai engine for their own personal use. Sure, it’s not stealing. Because why would taking something to use for their own purposes and pass off as their own be “stealing.”

[@CheeseThePurpleDragon]

⁠​⁠@@williambarnes5023 also, there’s a difference between learning from other people and STEALING THEIR ART. Why do you think artists add watermarks? AI’s not going to dodge those. Just because something is posted on the Internet doesn’t make it yours. Go cry me a river.

[@williambarnes5023]

@@CheeseThePurpleDragon I'm not interested in defending your strawman. Yes, I'm defending AI. No, they're not copying and pasting your work. That's not how AI training works. I also fully support Nightshade. You're not making any allies by dropping into delusional hysteria over AI.

[@ARandomIndieGameEnjoyer]

The fact that ALL OF THIS could have been avoided, if only the ai programmers asked artists for consent to their art.

[@rosevalety3408]

Not just 'ask' pay them. The problem is that they STEAL. I think many people would be ok their work is used if they are decently paid or even paid at all. I assume they 'asked for consent', they just don't take No for an answer

[@tartas1995]

As a programmer, or if the governments would ban it because it should be banned. It is obviously copyright abuse. It is bad for the environment and for artists and adds... Easier fake news? Ban it.

[@huymaivan8671]

They would bankrupt in seconds if they pay a buck for each image they feed to the AI.

[@CorruptedSpider]

​@@huymaivan8671 so what? This allows them to use works of artists for commercial purposes, without permission? No, it doesn't.

[@raiisleep]

​@@huymaivan8671I'd rather ai not exist at all than be able to generate a scuffed 3d render of a dog

[@queworldwow6262]

Lmao, imagine literal tapeworms calling you an abuser for getting rid of them

[@bork7817]

At least tape worms don't try to kill off their hosts 💀

[@Someperson12532]

Imagine getting surgery for brain eating ameoba then you hear behind you, in a jar "No fair! This is abuse! Let me eat your brain!"

[@queworldwow6262]

@@Someperson12532 this is even more accurate, since they don't like to think or work, only receive what they want (even if it's illegal)

[@tarettime9392]

“We can’t profitably create an ai without using copyrighted materials for free” so you admit your business model is illegal?

[@2Btoobee]

oh god, so my nightshaded poisoned stuffs were helping out in ruining their slops, hell yeah! =w= more works to make, gj yall

[@dwaynec1003]

Remind me to never ever hire your services, ty

[@Gwynhyvr]

@@dwaynec1003 cope harder, bro ♥

[@fedethegreat88]

​​@@dwaynec1003Not like you'd commision them anyways, so nothing of worth was lost

[@user-sc6rr5mp4w]

@@dwaynec1003 you wouldn't hire an artist be real xD you dont have that type of money

[@pandoratheclay]

@2Btoobee Remind me to hire you in the future

[@lukestarkiller1470]

I think I’m gonna start using nightshade now. This little slip up was all I needed to hear. No company is ever going to admit that these softwares work because then everyone would use them. But they just accidentally revealed that they hate it so much that they’d consider it abuse, which means it’s absolutely working. The artist revolution is at hand!!!

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

From what I read they were stating that such tools, if they actually worked, would be abuse, in the legal sense. As in they'd have the ability to actually go after creator of it since it would be classified as malware... if it worked.

[@YEs69th420]

@@SherrifOfNottingham It's not malicious code, so no it wouldn't count as malware.

[@GwynC]

​@@SherrifOfNottinghamOh no, the stolen property is booby trapped?? Shouldn't have stolen it then.

[@arcadeinvader8086]

@@SherrifOfNottingham if you think this is malware you fundamentally don't understand malware even a little bit.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

@@arcadeinvader8086 What I see is that people seem to don't like explanations of what is and isn't malware because they want to use malware and be justified for it. I'm simply pointing out that the company is trying to frame using these tools as malware, and pointing out that they actually have a case for it, if the tools actually worked (they don't). But yes, tell me how I don't fundamentally understand how malware is a piece of software used to maliciously effect somebody else's device. Nighshade and Glaze are software used to maliciously effect the training of their AI, easily classified as malware. What YOU don't seem to understand is that I'm pointing out what THEY want to do, but you're being a prick about hearing accurate information because you don't like the information. It's a small wonder I spend any time trying to help artists understand what they're up against, they don't want to learn.

[@infurnessfire4452]

Let the artist fight they are people who have been scammed the longest

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

HAH I think you misunderstand an important factor about automation, the fact that a LOT of people have lost their job to automation and watched as artists smugly sat on their platform using it to tell people to become artists, "they'll never take our jobs" It's why artists are outnumbered on this issue, you can't be a prick to everybody around you all your life and expect that many people to side with you when lady karma shows up

[@infurnessfire4452]

@SherrifOfNottingham I am talking about the artist fighting back and supporting them

[@rainbowsorceress2082]

​@@SherrifOfNottingham then sit and watch as all our culture becomes regurgitated trash produced by machines with no intentionality or human soul. Yes, be in favor of AI out of some petty sense of vindication. Go ahead.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

@@infurnessfire4452 there are far few artists that care about automation taking jobs. There are very few artists that actually care about automation as a whole... that's why they're so focused on banning AI and preventing automation specifically in their sector. If you truly care bout automation as a whole you'll stop fighting AI as the problem, and start actually solving the problem... for everybody.

[@PaGDu333]

@@SherrifOfNottingham your intelligence had been chasing you, but you’ve always proven to be faster…

[@whoahanant]

Glaze and Nightshade as well as AI now cannibalizing it's own AI pieces is all of course biting them in the ass. Artists deserve the right to keep their pieces. AI companies should be paying for all the stolen art and until they do then fucking with them should never end.

[@thatoneactualdude]

Finally OpenAi will actually do something worth and not plaster the AI art anymore

[@AnAngelineer]

Keep on fighting, artists. We can actually win this. A.I. "adapting" to these tools won't happen on its own, and is actually insanely hard to implement. Open A.I. might be able to adapt their algorithms thanks to their billions, but it will be insanely costly for them. At worst, it will "only" wound them pretty bad, which is already a win for us. And considering they aren't really profitable to begin with... that wound might actually be lethal. Only investors and business angels granting them billions are carrying them so far. chatGPT would be losing money without them, just as Dall-E would. A.I. is much more vulnerable than many people think : if it doesn't make enough money, it simply won't be able to continue in its current form. And its ability to scrape the whole Internet for content might just disappear if there is no money to pay for those gigantic data centers.

[@TheGallantDrake]

You're definitely on the money here. The current generation of AI is hitting the limits of what its capable of without being fundamentally reworked. Glaze and Nightshade are just exposing the limitations.

[@moonshine6304]

If they can't use art anymore, they'd have to rely on using even more of AI images to feed the machine, and it's only gonna inbreed it til it's unusable

[@victorvirgili4447]

“That wound might actually be lethal” 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@dogevoadoriii]

I'm sorry but artists can't this fight, maybe slowdown/mitigate them

[@dontopenthedoorplease.7279]

​@@dogevoadoriii Did you have a stroke while writing?

[@noidontthinksojustno3812]

"It's abuse for you to do what you want to your own art." lol okay

[@Qwaziop]

@@UltimatePerfectionuh what????

[@SWIFT_NINJA47]

@@UltimatePerfectionSo? You can put glaze / nightshade on your art if you want.

[@nitz_o]

Right like, I OWN it I do what I want!

[@ocularsurfacewatermelon689]

@@SWIFT_NINJA47they mean that you can copy/paste or download any online image and act like its your own. Doesn’t help that most online artists never actually sign their works either. And the fact that everything you post online automatically is at the mercy of and is automatically owned by the company whose site it is.

[@NijiKonohana]

@@UltimatePerfection You should really read up on copyright laws. Copyright exists from the moment you draw the first stroke or write the first word. Just because it is on the internet doesn't mean it's immediately in the public domain.

[@Luluflair]

they can steal our art but we aren't allowed to protect OUR work? oh well.

[@white_145]

"Dang bro it's no fair you use doors, how the hell am I supposed to rob you?"

[@crazycatlady2744]

This is like a thug calling it abuse for people to sell pepper spray to potential victims.

[@Pokemonmovemaster]

This is probably more on the illegal side but I wonder if AI dataset poisoning could be used to distribute malware or cause significant damage to the LLM itself. Those kinds of things alone would cause a significant decrease in the usage of LLMs for a long while if it can be tricked into harming users like that.

[@shawermus]

Firstly, no. Secondly, LLMs and even image gen are not inherently evil technology to completely shut them down, this is just the same situation as: Nuclear energy. Blockchain. NFTs. Where one big thing screws up the public perception of the technology for decades to go. Fuck big companies.

[@ulawan5]

Now THAT is the kind of cyberpunk warfare that be wild to see

[@fedethegreat88]

I fully support trojan horsing AI databases

[@fitmotheyap]

It's possible to trigger false positives in an anti virus, not more than that though

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

That would be massively illegal, you have to remember, LLMs and their associated image generators are well within the law doing what they're doing. Distributing malware is a crime, and even if they were breaking the law, you're not allowed to break the law in retaliation.

[@The_Red_Scare]

4:07 THIS! LITERALLY THIS! THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING! Either hire/commission someone to make art for the ai, pay artists for the proper licensing to use their art for ai, or get permission from artists to use their art for ai. There, 3 paid options and 1 free option (though far more limited). But of course, that's too much money, time, and effort and they want to blow up their companies NOW, not later. Screw ethics and sustainability, all that matters is limitless human greed.

[@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer]

So they are now openly admitting to using images they have absolutely no rights to for their algorithms? Smells like copyright infringement to me bois, can we give them another lawsuit real quick?

[@shroomer3867]

They weren't really hiding it that well in the first place. The mask slipped and nobody can sue them because even though they are legally in the wrong, they can just drown you in debt and long legal proceedings before you even get to the court and even then the lawyers they have sold their souls for that money so it's an uphill battle.

[@SherrifOfNottingham]

It's more fair use than most of what is put on KZbin, dangerous game to play there.

[@sexywarriorwomen]

@@SherrifOfNottinghammost crap on youtube claiming fair use is actually derivative works and illegal. Fair use is a small amount of the actual work for educational purposes, essays, quotes in books etc.

[@haraya_manawari]

lmao this is like a robber whining and bitching that you put up locks and setup surveillance cameras around to secure your home

[@tjlnintendo]

Sadly there are robbers that do complain lol.

[@CapucineNighly]

They'll prolly complain more when they also noticed you have a bunch of guard dogs. :D So gotta use both programs to be extra sure.

[@Blueberryyymuffin]

I think there have actually been robbers who sued house owners for using security services. Sometimes the robber will trip or something in the house they are robbing and will sue the house owners lol. I think they even win sometimes idk 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@williambarnes5023]

It's more like you telling someone to stop filming your house from their house across the street, and then you get so upset you put up blinds. And then them getting upset that you've put up blinds and calling it abuse. They get to film what's visible, you get to put up blinds.

[@limey24]

KEEP USING GLAZE AND NIGHTSHADE, CHAT. LETS DEFEAT THOSE AI BROS ONCE AND FOR ALL

[@Stratelier]

News flash: "Nobody cares." As in, artists don't care what AI techbros have to say when we've _already_ declared a war against them. Longer post version: Let's at least acknowledge the CEO is _technically_ correct in making that statement. But it also reflects the reckless, indiscriminate method by which they've trained their models -- artists wouldn't be complaining (as much) about the potential for style theft/impersonation if the companies spent time _actually curating_ what the model "learns" from the datasets.

[@doodles3114]

If using Nightshade is “Abuse” then buying a lock for my door is a felony

[@sim_issimmin]

its like people complaining that knights wearing armor is abuse

[@fluoriteByte]

Keep glazing sisters, let openAI suffer >:3 (And brothers, and other creatures and things)

[@Log281]

and brothers too!!! may AI be reduced into nothing!!

[@sim_issimmin]

AI is still pretty useful, its just the way its being used is scummy. For example, using the ai for fun, like generating silly images. You can also use it to help with coding if you dont have the time to learn a specific command.

[@fluoriteByte]

@@sim_issimmin or ALT text for people who don't have the energy to write them :3

[@NoraJae]

I’m going to start glazing my minecraft skins, >;3

[@fluoriteByte]

@@NoraJae i'd say the data is too lowres for even glaze to work on it

[@Internet_No_Body]

They're stealing people's firewood and putting it in their woodchippers and getting mad people are putting nails in the wood to break their woodchipper.

[@Il1usi0n914]

Nightshade was developed as a form of copyright protection. It’s hard to detect through almost any means and even if it was easy to identify it serves as a marker that says “do not use to train AI” which is ultimately, the goal that is trying to be achieved. So yeah. People should continue to poison their images with glaze and nightshade if they want to protect their intellectual property and I support them in doing so.

[@JikuAraiguma]

This is ridiculous. It’s like being sued by someone that stole your food because it triggered an allergic reaction.

[@makoto-samaru8004]

The best analogy that i've seen so far in the comments 😂

[@smbsmw1111]

Hate to drop this but it's a bad example, you can get sued and lose (in USA) if they can prove you knew about the allergu and did that on purpose, same shit as boobytrapping your own house.

[@smbsmw1111]

The AI case is fundamentally different - there's no human life being endangered, so poisoning the well is not morally wrong.

[@Yoyiiii]

​@@smbsmw1111 "did that on purpose" does that mean forcefeeding them or smth

[@shadowsketch926]

@@Yoyiiii no, if you knew about the allergy beforehand, that's what they mean

[@CapucineNighly]

LOL Art thieves hate it when us artists want to protect our works 😂

[@bokkuro]

"Nooooooo why you don't let us steal your arts so we can replace you?!?!"

[@anomalousanimates]

if that headline is true, then that might be the most dumbest statement ever by an ai company

[@RKNancy]

AI bros are dumb and are creating a tool to encourage everyone's dumbness.

[@itzmemario-u6l]

Don't bite the hand that doesn't want to feed you in the first place (i am on to nothing 🗣️🗣️🔥)

[@Mewcat]

too hungry

[@hellgazer8370]

bite everyone, they are the food now

[@shroomer3867]

Don't bite the hand that you steal from

[@adir6094]

@@shroomer3867 don’t tell the hand ur feeding off of 😭

[@biwan1000]

😔👈

[@gunnaryoung]

Open AI has been taking everyone else's food from the break room fridge and now they're upset that someone put peanuts in their food "even though everyone knows I have a peanut allergy!" _If_ the peanuts were directly given to them, _if_ the creative works on which the model is trained were intentionally, actively submitted to Open AI, _then_ would they have a case.

[@Someperson12532]

More like Open AI went into a restaurant, stole the food some hard-working chefs made without paying, ate it, and after doing this often enough the chefs put peanuts in their food. Open AI ate the food, and said the _chefs_ should be arrested.

[@SeveralRats]

​@Someperson12532 that's the same analogy

[@Mabayu]

Ai training on my work without my consent is not ok. I dont hate ai, but hate the people using the ai to steal from those without consent given. I also hate the dumb ai drive thrus. Those need to go away. Why would I want to spend 10x longer ordering.

[@MorphMV]

i agree on the last one since it keeps happening whenever i go to a taco bell

[@i2eptilian]

No, but my slop machine! Can't you see? My poor, poor slop machine! it will starve, STARVE, I say, if I am not allowed to keep stealing your art and using it without your consent! How will it continue producing its soulless slop now? Stop ABUSING me!!! What do you want me to do, ASK for the art? Provide some form of COMPENSATION for the use of copyrighted works that do not belong to me?! Or, dare I even say it, CREDIT?! What madness! No, my vast output of worthless slop that's ruining digital art in general with each passing second would be SOMEWHAT INCONVENIENCED if I had to do that, you evil, greedy, monstrous artist! In fact, YOU should be paying ME for the PRIVILEGE of having your art fed into my slop machine and turned into slop!

[@thatstickanimator6602]

I saw a video where someone asked a drive-thru AI for 10,000 water cups, and it started to say “sure!” Before an employee had to take over.

[@anonym4673]

@@thatstickanimator6602 omg where I need to see that lmfao

[@thatstickanimator6602]

@ try searching “can I get 18,000 water cups” I’m pretty sure KZbin doesn’t let you comment links.

[@Moloxer]

AI companies being "abused" would suggest there is a relationship between the artists and these tech giants, but all those bridges have already been burned down when the corporations didn't even sit down at the negotiating table. AI has existed for less than four years and I'm already so exhausted of it, it's actually crazy how boring and stale the concept science fiction writers had fantasized about has become.

[@Lioru92]

Everyone is a creative. Whether they want to hear it or not. Their laziness does not move me. I started with stick figures. AI is and will always be about AVOIDING. Avoiding learning. Avoiding doing. Avoiding failing. Their insecurities are not my problem. I encourage everyone , but no one can get through your own insecurities but yourself. So they flounder. The answer is to get up and WORK. Instead they throw a tantrum! Literally Skill issue

[@beardiemom]

I have visual aphantasia and am a raging perfectionist, so drawing is hugely frustrating to me. So I.... comissioned an artist to draw a picture of my DnD character. Yeah, it's not cheap, but paying someone for their time and creativity shouldn't be cheap.

[@ucantSQ]

Such an abusive crowd, these artists. No one ever thinks of the poor, destitute tech billionaires.

[@LotteYansson]

Stealing is also abuse.

[@jasuumii]

straight facts coming from aigis, spit your shit my dude 🔥 (I have never played Persona3)

[@gneu1527]

"This guy's house has a security system, that's abuse"

[@azaritheraptor]

I hope every artist begins to use night shade and glaze so we can just fuck up ai, and once it learns how to bypass them find something else to ruin it. If we all try hard enough, we can defend our artwork, fuck ai

[@starlightthetribewing4774]

“WHY ARENT YOU LETTING ME STEAL YOUR HARD WORK” -OpenAI, crying like a little wimpy baby

[@julyol119]

"Paying artists would make this business unprofitable" Well, then maybe this business has no place on the market, pals. Do something else. Stealing is not a fan option. I'd ask what is wrong with people, but I'm a sociologist...

[@The_Questionaut]

Ah yes, the AI ethics saga continues: OpenAI: 'Stop protecting your own work so we can use it for AI training without your permission to profit!' Artists: 'How about no?' *activates Nightshade and Glaze* OpenAI: *Surprised Pikachu face* 'That's abuse!' OpenAI is like that kid who yells 'pause' just before you tag them in a game. They complain when artists defend their rights while simultaneously attacking them. It's a classic case of the bully crying foul when the tables turn. OpenAI, the champion of 'ask for forgiveness, not permission' until someone says 'no.' It’s like watching a toddler throw a tantrum because you won’t let them eat your entire birthday cake. 'But I wanted it!' Yeah, and I wanted my art to remain mine-funny how that works. Next up: OpenAI introduces their groundbreaking 'Do As I Say, Not As I Do' AI ethics module. Because nothing says 'advancing beneficial AI' quite like digital colonialism with a side of gaslighting. Openai's eerie parallels to authoritarian playbooks: 1. Suppressing dissent by calling self-defense 'abuse' 2. Exploiting resources (aka artists' work) without consent 3. Centralizing power faster than a dictator on caffeine 4. Gaslighting artists so hard they’re considering a career in competitive cheese rolling 5. Accidentally embodying the very capitalist exploitation Marx warned us about... Or maybe it isnt an accident. ClosedAI: "Bringing you tomorrow's dystopia, today!" *Kinda eerily fits them* Also not to mention sam altmans worldcoin surveillance thing... Screams 1984 and brave new world. Its almost like the for profit ClosedAi wants to be skynet. Arguments against OpenAI's claim that it's "impossible" to train AI without copyrighted material include: Alternative Training Methods: Companies like Adobe demonstrate that AI can be trained using non-copyrighted content, suggesting that OpenAI's reliance on copyrighted material is more about convenience and cost than necessity. Cost-Effectiveness: Critics argue that OpenAI prefers using copyrighted materials because it's cheaper than licensing or creating original content, indicating a profit-driven motive rather than an insurmountable barrier. Transformative Use Defense: While OpenAI claims its use of copyrighted content falls under "fair use," many believe this argument weakens when the end product is commercialized, challenging the notion that training AI constitutes transformative use. Overall, critics assert that OpenAI's position is an excuse to avoid the financial implications of proper licensing. OpenAI's exploration into generating ethical porn raises concerns about its profit motives and ethical implications. Critics argue that this shift indicates a prioritization of revenue over ethical standards, as the company seeks to capitalize on a lucrative market while navigating public backlash. Profit Incentive: By considering NSFW content, OpenAI may be aiming to tap into a profitable sector, potentially prioritizing financial gains over user safety and ethical considerations. Excuses for Cost-Cutting: The claim that it's exploring responsible content generation may serve as a convenient excuse to avoid investing in comprehensive content moderation and licensing strategies, which could be more costly than simply allowing user-generated explicit content. Risk of Exploitation: Allowing AI-generated erotic content could exacerbate existing issues with non-consensual material and exploitation, suggesting that OpenAI is neglecting the broader societal impacts in favor of commercial interests (as usual) Even though i already said it, here it is again: ClosedAI: "Bringing you tomorrow's dystopia, today!"

[@tttttttttttttttp12]

Great read

[@bootmii98]

Problem: stuff from the last 95 years that wasn't made by the federal government or another AI will be completely unavailable to AI. It should be obvious that this is a very bad training data set.

[@shigushigu741]

​@@bootmii98i love how that can be tied back to Disney's Mickey Mouse laws, lol. They're the reason copyright lasts for 100 years. It's almost like the current laws on creative work should be re-examined and updated. But that's never going to happen because the only thing that lawmakers love above screwing people over is money, lol

[@Memepig]

Nightshade is still the 🐐

[@anomyx1232]

stop yapping

[@nitz_o]

Yea😎

[@Leo-rd7dt]

But we need need more tools like this to fight AI

[@TheGallantDrake]

​@@anomyx1232u mad u can't draw?

[@makoto-samaru8004]

​@@anomyx1232pick a pen bro.

[@maddiesmenagerie8853]

It is literally fucking IMPOSSIBLE to find art references nowadays. EVERYTHING is AI generated and there's no way to fully block it. It sucks.

[@alanisisamess8977]

There's an incredibly useful big AI blocklist that you can use with uBlock origin, it cuts out a large percentage of the slop and you can add to it if you notice a site it's missed. But yeah, you can kiss google images goodbye on mobile. It's genuinely useless.

[@besthobbit]

If you add -ai in the search bar, it helps. Not perfect, but it's something.

[@milktar2182]

​@@besthobbit That just adds more AI results.

[@Sicthewolf]

in addition to the -AI added to your search you can also go with before:2020 and that should clear out the rest.

[@lucasurquiza554]

It feels like AI companies are purposely ignoring the damage they've done to the art landscape in general, pretending that their products do not harm artists in any way and that they're purely benevolent entities just trying to advance technology into a new age... But we've seen that damage, we've felt it, and it can't be ignored. The plagiarism, the theft it enables, the artists and graphic designers out of a job because of AI, even the environmental damage caused by the copious use of energy required to power these stupid machines. It's all here, clear to see, and these companies and their defenders choose to ignore it all.

[@AfterArtist]

These are the same people who told us to “Adapt or Die” 💀💀

[@jacotromp59581]

I am 100% on the side of human artists

[@blu6295]

There is No such Thing as ai artists

[@blu6295]

There are AI prompters, but artists? Nuh uh, there is No creative Work done there

[@rickydo6572]

​@blu6295 They'd argue prompting is art because some creativity is required to create a prompt, I've literally argued with some dipshit over thins on yt. The thing is, if prompting was really art the AI generated picture wouldn't really be relevant would it? They'd be sharing their prompts online instead lol

[@GavenJr]

I hope something like Nightshade but for audio/songs becomes a thing to protect indie artist and their work from being taken advantage of

[@skypaver989]

Same - I'm wondering if low level irregular noise could achieve some similar effect? Even if it doesn't work I might do it anyways since many of my songs involve recorded rain or waves as ambience

[@trinqette]

"there are no artists who would agree to be paid to create art for ai to train off of" is not the point they think it is

[@annabella1650]

This situation hopefully motivates people to make more programs like Nightshade and Glaze. Eventually the AI will be able to get around them, we need to have the backups ready.

[@micheya2944]

7:18 "Please, just let me rob you!" - The spot from Across the spiderverse. Like I'm legit dying, it's so...Like wow.

[@boscorner]

Hilarious. Not Letting others do whatever they want with your IP without consent is abuse now

[@aflockofconnivingmagpies3490]

"Creep with no concept of consent calls pepper spray 'abuse'" ass headline

[@Starb0y_Imai]

"HOW COULD YOU LOCK YOUR HOUSE THATS ABUSE"

[@riesonomura]

same energy as NFT bros malding at ppl doing the ol' right click and save, calling it "theft" GOOD. let them mald. 😈

[@THATBrokeAroSpecWallet]

Omg i loved that it was hilarious

[@InvasionAnimation]

We just need to make it illegal to use ai. Look at human cloning. We are fully capable of creating that sice the 1990s. But it is considered illegal and fines are so high the juice ain't worth the squeeze.

[@shadhog0187]

Generative AI is a threat to human expression. So yeah this is a good point.

[@anomalousanimates]

or at least heavily regulated and surveilled

[@Biggiecheese20]

I don't think AI, I think strictly generative AI. (Unless you did mean that, sorry) Because technically AI is used in other helpful and significant things we use in technology. But we seriously need some law crack-down on Gen AI. There's too much danger with that... Especially how gullible people are and how quick misinformation spreads.

[@gonpachi_0303]

i don't want to erm actually because i am an artist (actual artist) myself and the heavy use of ai does directly affect me as well but i think we should simply regulate it for the general public. ai does serve a lot of purpose in the medical field for example, and in places where having a human work would be dangerous/unintuitive. but generative ai? fuck that shit bro. ban it for humans. ai shouldn't be used as a replacement for our creativity

[@InvasionAnimation]

@@gonpachi_0303 Agreed. From what I can tell the most ai does in the medical field is tally all of the symptoms and side effects folks have. It is very simple so I wouldn't even consider it an ai or llm. We should still use it but it can be tallied by humans easily even though I think ai is good in that case. However I disagree about having it replace dangerous work. Not every wants to or can be an artist or a computer guy. We should just increase the hazard pay a lot for the dangerous jobs. Plus a bunch of folks find joy from doing it, so I won't judge.

[@Dexter01992]

It is nature of the bully to see your attempts to defend yourself from his bullying behaviour as "wrong" and "immoral".

[@jshowao]

I hope artists keep doing this. I consider it an essential skill. And companies "hating it" is essentially a self admission that they are stealing your content without attribution.

[@Dhdjksjsnsnsnnsnsna]

I wanna see them try and sue nightshade and its users bc i wanna see what their lawyers would try and argue.

[@Coltingtons]

fr, it's the artists' own art, how can they argue that they shouldn't be able to do what they want with their own art before posting it?

[@Morgoroth_07]

7:20 translation: professional thief pleads they can't make money without stealing stuf.

[@i2eptilian]

That openai spokesperson calling this abuse is like a coworker stealing your lunch and then coming up to you and complaining that they didn't like it.

[@catboygremlin]

it really is the coworker who got mad you added spices to make them suffer

[@CoffeeBnuuy]

Reminds me of a post about some dude's coworker stealing their lunch, so they put a bunch of laxatives in it and labeled it as "poison, do not eat." And then the coworker ate it anyway.

[@recklessthor4]

I am using it on all of my photos as an infrared photographer.

[@sambyers7653]

"How dare you put an exploding dye pack in this money I stole!"

[@L4xu0rii_PNG]

PLSSS IMAGINE BEING MAD THAT YOU CAN’T STEAL FROM US 😭😭 THE AUDACITY IS CRAZY

[@mikejeffries3333]

"Bank Robber Suing Police After Suffering Joint Pain When Tasered in the Middle of a Stickup"

[@sim_issimmin]

"Military officer sued for using bulletproof vest during war."

[@gamewrit0058]

Hmm, I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think this metaphor works as well as others. The bank and billionaires are the ones who extract (capitalize) off of the common person, and tasers are often used on people who have not committed a crime, do not present a clear and present danger, and/or should have had a trained crisis worker or EMT intervene instead. I chat with a big group of artists, writers, and other creatives daily-- in the U.S. and elsewhere--and I know all of us would be uncomfortable being compared to the p*lice.

[@myco2408]

I was going to scrape adobe’s bank account providing myself with millions of dollars but they disrupted the process and I have zero of their dollars that I decided I’m entitled to! This type of abuse must not be allowed to continue

[@Mango0-g2t]

i wish there were this kind of tools like nightsade but for ai voices. Greedy companies trying to replace voice actors with AI, we are losing too much.

[@booleah6357]

I'd play the world's smallest violin for them but they'll need an AI to do it for them.

[@Vøid202-X]

I feel like it be illegal or at least heavily regulated when it comes to generative ai.

[@RetroPlus]

What Ai image generation does to artist could fall under the definition of "abuse"

[@sanakrishna9765]

Ai "art": ❌️ Ai theivery: ✅️

[@tessal6555]

Linear Algebra Algorithmic Generated Images ✅

[@shadowsketch926]

@@tessal6555 at least one person that knows its not true AI, i wonder how much true AI would look down on the AI bros if it ever becomes a reality.

[@friendlyneighborhoodartist]

open ai be like crybabies lol

[@Kriliska]

Absolutely unhinged levels of entitlement.

[@the_newt_nest]

Hey, you know what they say at OpenAI - ask for forgiveness, not for permission.

[@huymaivan8671]

They would never ask for permission because if they pay a buck for each image they steal, the whole company would bankrupt in seconds.

[@VeraTheTabbynx]

they don't ask for forgiveness either, just act entitled to plunder and steal the work of millions of actual people who put countless hours and serious effort into it to train their stupid algorithms

[@huymaivan8671]

@@VeraTheTabbynx Of course no thief or criminal would ask for forgiveness as long as there's no consequence made by the law.

[@elhazthorn918]

Mercedes abused me by not giving me a free luxury car.

[@ukuotuscoffinowl]

It's ridicilous. They want maliciously code AIs with image material that doesn't even belong to them in the first place and AI developers must know that they could have done things different and together with artists,collab and pay a fair fee and have is a helpful too instead of trying to replcace artists but nooo... now they're so upset that artsits are saying no, it's not ok to use artworks like that. Protect your art. Neither it is OK for AI devs and users to go stealing art, plagitarise as some try hard to create 1:1 of their favorite artist's works. There needs to be global rules and laws with AI tools and how it can be used and for what as well as how it can be coding and I would forbid it being possible to create copycat artists.

[@SapphireD89]

OpenAI saying artists using Glaze and Nightshade to protect their art is abuse is like an ex-boyfriend saying getting a restraining order against him is a violation of his rights

[@ZaneG-xs4ty]

I like the idea of feeding AI poisoned artwork and making it a little bit worse at its primary function every time, there’s just something so funny about an artificial “intelligence” encountering these things and instead of course correcting it just keeps running right into it

[@PossumMedic]

the parent that hits their kid then goes off when the kid slams a door