OpenAI's New LEAKED Coding Tool: The End Of Software Engineers

[@helzapoppin9810]

2015: "learn to code." 2025: "Oops just kidding"

[@michaelnurse9089]

Got me too.

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Yeah learn to code to make this then reap the rewards.

[@jean-baptistebonaparte2200]

The thing is that we still need lol 😅, in order to use those tools effectively and be able to drive them in the direction we want it’s better to know how to code

[@WhiteArtsMagic]

those who got in in 2015 will have a career in coding for many many years to come. Those trying to get into it now will have one hell of a time trying to find a job

[@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa]

@ Sure if they're in the top 10% of senior devs. If not, they're out pal.

[@JohnnyMayHymn]

I'm a developer and I already treat o1 like a co-worker / sounding board, we're basically work besties

[@FunNFury]

Mine is Sonnet

[@jdhayes99]

I'm sonnet too. and yes, "besties" is a great way to put it. I strongly suspect that there's a correlation between getting good results and "besties".

[@gearscodeandfire]

I'm an amateur programmer, but o-1 was a trusted confident for me running dockerized models in WSL2.

[@muzehack]

And like a coworker it will stab you in the back and take your job when you get complacent.

[@fiarusgaming3420]

You've unfortunately been training your downfall, and paying to do so :(

[@harshsason3725]

Maybe programming was about all the friends we made along the way

[@vladislavdonchev1271]

No, programming was about teaching us that we should automate security research first and then AI, but nooooooo let's Skynet this bish instead

[@mxguy2438]

programmers have friends?

[@milanpospisil8024]

We will have to transform to AI managers / salesmen. There should be aim to leverage IT knowledge in order to push IT software to new areas. Simply to create new jobs...

[@vivarantx]

developers are bad getting jokes 😂

[@WillyJunior]

@@milanpospisil8024 coders becoming salesmen, that's funny

[@ricnyc2759]

CEO's plan: fire everybody and use prompts to create things. The catch: who's going to buy their stuff when nobody else has a job?

[@pvanukoff]

That is the dilemma. That's why UBI and similar things are being proposed.

[@sapito169]

stop beliving this bs people have to study basic economics 1 we are not even near to full autonomi we are not even near to a reduction of 10 % 2 the prices self regulte and go to equilibrium this is always true it was true and will contimue to be true 3 software is very similar to a luxury asset people always want more if software is esear to build the user espectation will increase 4 software demand will increase as population increase 5 if a job is no longer require people will change to other jobs people always say this increadible stupid idea

[@the42nd]

We need to fire the CEOs first...

[@ZM-dm3jg]

Revolution, eat the rich

[@olivetree9920]

They can live on their hoarded wealth like smaug, some of them for literally thousands of years

[@holdthetruthhostage]

Another major problem this creates is that so you're only going to be hiring senior programmers, so no mid-level, no new ones, right? So aren't you going to basically shrink the amount of coders available to be employed?

[@RavenAmetr]

Good point. I guess, they will say that seniors will eventually be replaced too. The question is, what if this won't happen?

[@dirremoire]

That's the idea. By the time senior developers retire, there won't be a need for them anymore.

[@TravisBerthelot]

I think I am a good example of this kind of situation. I have had a BSCS for 24 years, but I only have 10 years of professional experience working for other companies. So either you code the majority of your time on your own, are lucky enough to get a good employer that keeps up with inflation, or you just don't stay in the industry. Keep in mind the average software developer has less than 5 years experience and tends to fail upward into management.

[@chrisanderson7820]

This isn't just a coding problem, say for example eventually AI will replace all paralegals and junior lawyers so now there's no new legal staff coming through the pipeline gaining experience that will then allow them to become senior staff. Same with every field, it's a fundamental paradox with AI.

[@Targetmouse]

By the time that becomes a problem, AI will be able to take over the senior programmers' jobs too.

[@aysbg]

If you are an actual Software Engineer who has worked in an actual development process you will know how f-ed up the whole "agile" is but old school waterfall is even worse. Try doing backlog grooming, product requirements gathering with all stakeholders involved and then give half baked tickets to AI to generate code. All LLMs are only pattern recognition which is heavily dependent on the good training sets. There is no chance in hell that any of them can actually replace a single proper Software Engineer who is going to actual ask questions and push back on idiotic proposal that are common amongst the Product people, especially when they suck and dont push back to stakeholders/sales/marketing idiots. Your jobs are safe, they will evolve but Software Engineer isn't going away any time soon.

[@vivarantx]

coping 😅

[@matka5130]

exactly

[@matka5130]

@vivarantx bro you are lost

[@Dinofx_jr]

@@matka5130coping 😂. Im a swe and its very much a huge cope. EVERYTHING humans do is a pattern. Everything in the universe is a pattern. Even chaos has patterns. You are not safe and no one is

[@matka5130]

@ Pythagoras thought that everything is a triangle :) Nothing wrong about that...But I don't see why I should be 'not safe'.

[@cadaver_on_autopilot]

There's an old soviet joke "My god if you build fridges that last forever who's gonna be employed to make fridges?" "The goal is so people don't have to build fridges comrade"

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

You may be shocked to learn this was the original vision of capitalism going back Adam Smith: that work was just temporary until everything could be automated.

[@michaelnurse9089]

Come on - we know that the Soviets never made jokes.

[@JA-gz6cj]

@@michaelnurse9089 dark humour is one of the only good things that came from soviet union

[@tortysoft]

@@JohnSmith762A11B Today, it's the Green's commitment.

[@victorandreverdipereira7440]

@@JohnSmith762A11B This is the actual goal. Create abundance on Earth so human capital can be used on things that actually matter, such as making human life interplanetary, or increasing human longevity. I welcome the time when all menial work is automated and basic necessities are basically free.

[@DaveRetchless]

Robots to handle labor are not far behind. The ones pretending there will be millions more AI jobs are either very dumb or want to be labeled the one that ended humanity.

[@julien8097]

they say there will be AI jobs only to keep people calm, to avoid panic, people are legit blind to the hellish society shift we are getting into

[@michaelnurse9089]

There will be millions of AI jobs. But with 5 billion needing employment there should be a job for every 1000th person.

[@14supersonic]

The future moving away from the current job structure we have now. The system is designed to keep you in your place anyway. You really don't want the current paradigm to exist if you want to do different things with your life later. It was only sustainable for maybe a dozen generations, but eventually, it's gonna destabilize, and AI is the destabilizing factor. Your value is gonna be about what you know and can do either individually or as a communal collective. The corporate oligarchy is gonna try to keep you within the walled garden, but it requires determination, and strong will to really break from the mold.

[@Steve-xh3by]

Anyone who thinks this leads to anything other than a dystopian nightmare hasn't been paying attention to the human race.

[@minimal3734]

You're right about history and human traits. Fortunately, humans are in the process of handing over control to real intelligence.

[@JA-gz6cj]

yeah, all these people thinking it will usher in some kind of utopia where nobody has to work and we will all get along with russia and china are delusional

[@77Playmaker]

What do you mean by that?

[@JA-gz6cj]

@@77Playmaker he means we don't live in a world where everyone wants the best for humanity, they just pretend they do. in the hands of dictators this can be just a powerful tool to control the population for example

[@JA-gz6cj]

@@77Playmaker it's like right now when my totally harmless comments get deleted by AI twice, not a good thing

[@amarug]

Companies are doing everything to get rid of workers to pump the net profit. But they seem to forget what they learned in like primary school economics: Net Profit = Revenue - Costs If no one has money to buy their shit anymore, they can squash the costs as much as they want, if revenue is zero, the Net profit wont look too juicy. Why is all of this so cool and so dumb at the same time? So exciting and so frightening at the same time?

[@erikanderson7223]

Yup, same issue people thinking UBI will happen are missing... No ubi if there's not enough income earners or consumer purchases to tax.

[@JA-gz6cj]

good point

[@minimal3734]

When everything is automated the price of goods will tend to zero. AI and robots pay for themselves.

[@themanregan]

@@erikanderson7223 Yeah, UBI is basically dole money. Successive governments here in the UK have demonised anyone on benefits, wrongly or rightly - either way, it doesn't bode well for a UBI future. I guess the best case scenario is we'll have armies of robot slaves to build, manage and distribute everything for us and money will be redundant. But I'll believe that when I see it. Lots of people are going to foreclose on their mortgages or fail to pay their rents in the interim, starting with coders, apparently - the very people who helped these companies build these AIs in the first place. Beautifully twisted business logic.

[@andrasbiro3007]

That's where UBI comes in. Something like that will be necessary. Or basic goods and services could be free, provided by AI and robots.

[@1three7]

One reason this terrifies me is how quickly all the execs are looking at it as cheap labor. The models are crazy impressive for sure. They can build from scratch fast and do good work. They can even read legacy code and follow it reasonably well. But you couldn't convince me to trust them to handle legacy code changes reliably on their own for a long time. Even if you keep 20 percent of your devs and expect them to review everything you're asking the AI to do they won't be able to keep up. Business execs will think they know what needs to change. They do that today. But then when the devs get into the code they uncover all the stuff that they never considered and needed to. These models don't have that theory of mind to guess that the business side might need to know about this chunk of code they never mentioned. What will happen is they analyze it a while. Feel pressured by the rapid pace and competition. Then rush into using it. We WILL see major major issues with big companies in coming years. And by major, think a trillion dollars vanish into thin air and no records to rectify the mistake.

[@johnjay6370]

@@1three7 you are thinking small. Old code, newer code, it does not matter. We are in the middle of a AI explosion and I think AGI is already a reality in labs and ASI is only a year or so away. Now to answer your question. If I was a CEO and had to make changes to whatever old code base, I would just have my AI Agent rewrite it from scratch and it will only take at most a few hours or let's say overnight or a week or 2. Heck even if it takes a month, it is still cheaper than a senior engineer or team. If we truly cracked the intelligent problem the most important asset in the world will be in large supply. That might be a reality and that might happen in the next few years.

[@1three7]

@johnjay6370 I think there's a lot of unproven hype from a lot of actors with motivation to lie. I'm not convinced at all about ASI or even AGI happening soon. We have language mimicry which is extremely powerful for sure but its full of hallucinations. We have no clue if there's a wall or for far language models can take us. I'm not saying it won't happen and I think most people don't take the possibility seriously enough but it's far from a given. As for rebuilding the entire stack from scratch I don't think you realize how big and interconnected enterprise level systems are now. If a bank tried to do that, the best models we know about publicly don't have a big enough context to do it all at once. They would have to work on sections and replace it piece by piece. That's where the issues come in. I'm not saying it's crazy to think ASI will happen eventually or even that it might happen soon. I think you're right to consider it. But there's no real evidence we're there yet just marketing hype to sell chat gpt subscriptions

[@johnjay6370]

@1three7 nice post. I am a engineer who writes games and firmware for small embedded systems. I can tell you that I use AI for work and it helps a lot with small tiring things right now. For small programs like I do, it is a great helper and I really hope it stays that way and does not improve that much, but I think it will. The reality is that in 2 years we have seen huge improvements and it seems to be accelerating. Big projects like you do, it might be a decades away, but small things like I do, it is almost there is some cases.

[@dimeboy5509]

​@@johnjay6370I agree however there will still be many bad implemations, lost code bases and screwups that used to be bad but now will be fatal with the market expectations.

[@1three7]

@johnjay6370 true, and that is a good point. A random person trying to build a prototype on their own will probably be able to use this with no issues. On that front though I hear a lot of people saying people who know nothing about code now don't need to hire a SWE and that part I'm skeptical about. I guess it depends on the scope and complexity of what they are making but without someone who can review the AIs code it's going to be very easy to let bugs and issues slip past the testing. Still, a small shop could definitely hire one guy where they needed 5-10 before this stuff. That's definitely true.

[@gabrielpettersson2069]

Nothing is free. This is not for the betterment of humanity, just the shareholders.

[@minimal3734]

The world of shareholders is fragile. They do not exist in isolation.

[@gabrielpettersson2069]

@minimal3734 I mean that this is made for profit, not some utopia. Everything we do now they will find ways to take from us and make us pay for the products they create. I no longer have any doubts that this will create a crash, with the allready wealthy hiding in their enclaves - they will either watch mass hunger and poverty and help, or the riots will come for them.

[@thirien59]

shareholders get their money from customers, if customers dont need them, they wont survive either. Im actually so tired of hyperbolic socialist discourse

[@Alistair]

humanity is generally the shareholders, via 401ks/pensions

[@asdfomfglol]

@@thirien59 Right, just like in the 1800s when ppl were poor af and couldn't buy anything but bread? I see rich ppl back then were doing badly! There are endless ramifications in which the rich will just rule over you and you will be their slave, period.

[@Supersaiyanbuddha]

From Covid to this. It will just never end.

[@michaelnurse9089]

It will end when they put you in the goo tank - like in the Matrix.

[@Larry_Dean]

How people should approach this: “How do we protect workers? Should we create a UBI? Should we tax the corporations replacing workers with AI in direct measure to the jobs they offset?” How people talk about it in reality: “I don’t think it can replace me. I’ll be fine. Everything is fine.” (Zuckerberg and Altman in the background getting ready to run a train on these oblivious dipshits.)

[@imthinkingthoughts]

Americans are too scared of ‘socialism’ and tie their self-worth to their employment. UBI will only happen once it’s undeniably bad

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

@@imthinkingthoughtsThis. Americans are in for hell. Here in Europe the welfare state, like it or not, will step in early.

[@imthinkingthoughts]

@ yep. Good luck to em

[@Supersaiyanbuddha]

I wonder what happens to the third world. Probably mass extinction.

[@amoledzeppelin]

It, technically, can't replace you. Idiotic employers can.

[@HappiestGnome]

So, um, how are we supposed to afford groceries? Yesterday, I asked DeepSeek to create a handful of WAI-ARIA APG web components, basically pretty finicky accessible versions of widgets -- sortable table, accordion, disclosure, modal window. It nailed them all, first try. I also fed it some JavaScript challenges from a course. Nailed them all, first try. Jesus. And this isn't even the PhD-level collaborating agents coming down the pipe. There's no class of jobs out there waiting to scoop us up. Any job, at this point, is a good job.

[@vonti5507]

Could you elaborate further how difficult that is to do as a single engineer?

[@johnjay6370]

@@vonti5507 time is money, I bet it took only a few minutes a good engineer might be a few hours of work.

[@HappiestGnome]

@ The challenge with web accessibility analysis/design isn’t the difficulty of any one task, it’s learning the mountain of minutia. How to transfer that knowledge to the dev who’s already dealing with a boatload of crap. Checklists can’t be too long or the devs won’t use them! The sheer volume of trivia has kept my boat afloat for decades, until now.

[@goldbrick2563]

What is DeepSeek?

[@HappiestGnome]

@ It's a Chinese chatbot released a few days ago, free, almost or on par with the US$200/month chatGPT version (o1 pro or whatever). You can easily install it locally, I did with the 8GB version, but that was as frustrating as chatGPT 4. Then I tried the online version, which clearly has way more power, and it was a freaky experience. Give it a whirl if you want to be disturbed.

[@layer4down]

Can’t wait to team up with millions and millions of other unemployed tech folks with nothing but time on their hands. #flossItAll

[@Farreach]

well its time to fight for system that will protect the people who will be losing their jobs as AI starts taking jobs

[@goldbrick2563]

The government could hire you to maintain roads and bridges

[@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057]

Let’s start a parallel economy.

[@dirremoire]

Even joining the Army won't be an option thanks to killer Robo-dogs. ☹

[@erkinalp]

@@goldbrick2563 wouldn't that be mass conscription?

[@Mephmt]

I'm 43. I've been a professional software dev since 2008. I've been with the same small company for 11 years. When I think about it, I can't wait to be unemployed. I've always hated this system. However, it's a double edged sword. Do I continue to slave away from some jerk to furnish his yacht, hoping to avoid the AI tsunami for a little bit longer? Or do I jump ship and strike out on my own and try to ride this wave? I've never been more stressed.

[@jdwspe]

Imagine the end of human innovation. No mathematicians, no physicists, no architects, and no electrical engineers. No content creators, no authors no philosophers, no writers. Imaging anything that a human can do can be done better, faster and cheaper by ASI. There will be no purpose in the average human life. What will your goals and dreams be? So consume? To find the next great thrill? To become forgotten? If the best minds can be eclipsed by ASI, the average man or woman will have little or nothing to strive for.

[@Virakotxa]

There's already an Asian kid somewhere that is better than me at everything... There are most likely other life forms, or even our own future evolution that makes us look like ants. I'm not wasting my tears for limitations.

[@mxguy2438]

I suggest study you some Buddhism

[@HCforLife1]

Our society is already broken. There are countless studies saying that men mental health is heavily related on their usefulness. The Self delition in men will skyrocket. UBI is an utopia bait for the poorest. Only already wealthy and attractive people will thrive in this dystopian age we are going to enter.

[@mo_mo_meaw]

ya now we can dream of restoring our childhoods

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

Maybe you need a health scare, Then you will appreciate just waking up the next day and being alive, Go out and touch grass perhaps?

[@AddyGoesPlaces]

The good news is that it'll be a lot easier to replace CEOs with AI.

[@ariesmarsexpress]

One would think the company referring to itself as “OpenAI” would in fact be the ones in favor of open source, but sadly, they are more concerned with the WSJ. It is a near 100% certainty that an actual Open AI company will open source models comparable to whatever OpenAI does. AI companies and developers are not immune to the same process that is going to affect everyone else. They just think they are. Also, your logic of more powerful tools only being available to enterprises, slowing things down, doesn't hold water. That will in fact speed it up. Being responsible for one of those enterprises, we look for things that have specifically been designed for data safety, which is a key element in every AI plan targeting enterprises. That would speed up adoption massively. Mom-and-pop shops do not need to be an actual enterprise to make use of enterprise level tools because five seconds after the enterprises adopt it, AWS and Azure will have it available through their platforms. From an education point of view, there are no fields which will not be impacted the exact same way that Data Science is being impacted. Here is the thing, you still need to understand what the AI is saying. If you have no education in the field, how will you have a conversation with an AI that does?

[@MThomasB]

We are going to NEED universal basic income unless enough new jobs emerge.

[@realagi2118]

AGI money will be Bitcoin. That's the real decentralized UBI as itll to many millions per Bitcoin

[@minimal2224]

Onlyfans will be the only true job 😂

[@ChromeKong]

@@realagi2118How does that solve unemployment?

[@StabbyMcStabStab]

Ethereum. It will want to be able to program and deploy its own cloudless services. It's also in the benefit of the users, as the AI can be gatekept by humans via a DAO. I predicted this in 2016.

[@Awesomeguy37]

UBI from government can't work only DUBI using crypto can work and make sense anything else will be totalitarian and unsustainable

[@GlobeZoomers]

You are taking 100% benefit of this trend, every single time your video has a title like "coding is dead" or "end of sw engineers", this is very mean to force people to watch your video and in 99% of your videos you have nothing important or new, you just discuss the industry

[@brootalbap]

he is the cheapest dirtiest clickbaiter i ever saw for sure.

[@lyndonsimpson1056]

First time seeing clickbait ?

[@rickhallett4223]

Jesus it isn’t that bad. You have the play the algorithm. Dirtiest you’ve ever seen? Go spend a day watching the endless grifters and gutterslush of inauthenticity on youtube/AI/agents now, and compare that to what our man here is offering; careful balanced reporting on the industry. He works hard to summarise all this and teach it. Go do better, if you can.

[@matka5130]

its bs clickbait for brainless ppl...sadly there are billions :)

[@rezaasadi890]

and youtube is full of these creators who just want to get views and get their profit out of this hype. I really don't get the fear mongering either. if coders are gonna be obsolete then all office works will be obsolete. even sam altman twitted lower your expectation from AGI x100.

[@kewk]

In a world of abundance, how does property acquisition work?

[@imthinkingthoughts]

That is the question…

[@rrrrrr-d4g]

Social Credit

[@gonzalezm244]

Property will accumulate even faster among few rich and the rest of us will be living under their rule

[@bestmoviesclips7869]

You will own nothing and will be happy

[@CamAlert2]

Since having power leads to deciding the rules of ownership it will fall under the AI overlords

[@christopherprovenzano3654]

So o1 preview was the millionth best competitive programmer, o1 full was the 1000th, o3 was the 175th, should we expect that o4 should be if not number one in the world at least near the top 10?

[@ALFTHADRADDAD]

Also, as confirmed in a wsj interview , o4 is already in training

[@devbites77]

No doubt it will be in the top 10, and soon after far ahead at no.1

[@sylversoul88]

Well from 1000th to 175th that's only 5.7x better. So following the same rate of improvement, o4 should be 31st

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

Having been a software engineer for decades, and having come to despise all the arrogant dweebs and grubby Indian chancers in the profession, I am thoroughly enjoying this apocalypse of the coders. Enjoy your pink slips! Buh-bye! 😂

[@michaelnurse9089]

Competitive programming is well suited to LLMs. Creating agent programmers that do the 'whole job' of a programmer will be very difficult and very expensive.

[@MikeG-mp2sj]

Combined with robotics advances, every single job is a target for replacement. When will we see the first business with no human employees?

[@ggoncalves80]

Hype and more hype... "listen to me, i'm doing something that will change everything, give me more money"...

[@devbites77]

I've built somewhat large complex projects in a short time. I'm a developer. It speeds up my work 8~10 x. It does take some effort, but I can add new features, and debug quite easily. it's incredible. I can adapt any parts in short time.

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

It is a lot of fun, though it makes coding so easy it is rapidly stripping all value from any human contribution. Soon even we senior devs will just get in the way.

[@livelifreely]

new features for what? debug what? this is all a sinking ship and a brief 'good music'.

[@WillyJunior]

@@livelifreely good music?

[@michaelnurse9089]

There was the lady doing $1m+ dev contracts in SF. I worked out they were basically at 30x. You better pick up your game.

[@eXit-ubermensch]

Soon you will be gone too

[@AldoEliacim]

I'm finishing my master's in CS focused on AI, and I have no fking idea what awaits us the next 5 years, let alone 10. This is changing the world (my world) really quick but i'm confident in what you've said, it's still a good place to be

[@kenfryer2090]

great idea is not like everyone else had thought of this. how many AI positions you think there will be and what sort of job will that be? prompt engineer? AI could do it's own prompting.

[@vivarantx]

keep your money, before you finish that degree you'll be replaced

[@Wes-Tyler]

Horrible time to be in school. Especially for an industry that will be dead soon (at least for humans)

[@10blader]

@@Wes-Tyler If this happens all the other companies will be dead as well. Day to night the fired SWEs will build their own companies doing the same things, knowing all the flaws and doing it cheaper than the companies they were fired for. It will be a major economic break.

[@IyamwhoIyam]

Anyone with that level of understanding of AI can find a way ... hopefully you spent time on other basics like software architecture, etc. Companies will need people to implement AI capabilities ... that won't be average IT guy.

[@janweber1699]

2025 :ai apocalypse or gta6 first?

[@geoffsmith82]

I'm starting to think at least initially, it is going to make the cost of software development to go down. This will result in more software being written - for example software that is specific for a particular company instead of having to have more generic software. So I guess it might depend on how much cheaper it costs to develop software and how many software ideas people have.

[@tplummer217]

Well I’ve surfed the wave for decades. Guess ill get my cardboard sign ready. Thanks.

[@vivarantx]

this is your last gig

[@michaelnurse9089]

This one will be a bigger wave. Like the one in Interstellar.

[@LogicSpeaks]

What’s funny is this consistent response from people who make 125k claiming that there is no way AI will replace them (also others) - we consistently see the opposite suggestion. Here is a simple example: I’ve been a cnc operator for a long time - and have also built my own machines and have needed help with various electrical wirings and other types of complex troubleshooting. At that point I’ve eliminated an electrician and an engineer in most situations because of GPT o1. It’s incredible and I can’t help but use it but I think we’re fucked if we don’t get a hold of our govt to create a safety net that actually benefits the bottom 99%. This is probably why we need open source AI?

[@Teh-Gaz]

Ah, we skipped the Oxygen model and went to Ozone.

[@wordzmyth]

For the burning 20s

[@michaelnurse9089]

Ozone is toxic if inhaled. Sam Altman is toxic even if not inhaled. I get it now.

[@Chiderasays]

Skipped O2 for O3, i got u bro 😊

[@mikhas_ryzomny]

atomic oxygen is as strong an oxidizer as ozone.

[@mmaslav6176]

Well its time to start farming full time.

[@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057]

Precisely

[@erkinalp]

farming cooperatives, hmm

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

Organic communes with hot hippie chicks is the new startup culture.

[@dirremoire]

Two good, fertile acres will produce more than enough to feed a family of 4. Corn, veggies, legumes, chickens, a pig or two. ..

[@SandcastleDreams]

​@@dirremoireNot for long! They keep spraying us! Last year, they sprayed the Gulf Coast! Unalived all of our bees and wasps. I didn't see one until about June! They sprayed pastures and gardens alike! Even our wildflowers that I feed my rabbit bit the dust! So did 2 of my rabbits! 😢 We tried replanting in AUG. Most of it didn't even come up. Hurricane Helene helped was out whatever it was. I'm hoping it won't happen again this year. Everybody in the area was affected.

[@brianjohnson5176]

So the tax payer which is middle to lower class - have to pay for more utilities more water resources for a giant tech company so they can charge everyone more money for daily life ?

[@SandcastleDreams]

Now you are catching on!

[@Corza]

But it still cant write simple Blender scripts without making up attributes that dont exist - after 4 years of "progress and advancements"

[@ajkulac9895]

Still makes stuff up in code too. Sometimes small stuff easy to fix sometimes it call functions that maybe should exist but don't. Rarely does the code it wrote actually work.

[@mikhas_ryzomny]

AI just wasn't taught how to make blender scripts, so don't think it won't be taught. and so far it looks like a criminal generalization.

[@BradleyKieser]

In Europe everyone knows O2. It's a giant mobile phone network here.

[@ianr4222]

Sam Altman did say why they were not calling it o2 when they said the next model was o3.

[@arunks8162]

😆

[@michaelnurse9089]

That is O2 - the LLM would have been o2. OpenAI are lying, as they are wont to do.

[@VinaX2R]

I don’t know man. Yesterday after couple of hours spent o1 was not able to provide my with working VBA macro to make a pdf documents out of the simple spreadsheet.

[@SandraWantsCoke]

Your job is safe. LLMs suck, they are word probability predictors. They hallucinate and forget context all the time, nearly impossible to work with.

[@richardanderson3476]

two of my close friends are coders and when i ask them about AI they tell me they have nothing to worry about because a human always has to enter the prompt (don’t know what that entails). Them saying this always felt like cope to me. Am I right? Can someone explain?

[@Ni7ram]

yeah they are coping. im a coder myself, see many friends of me doing it too

[@MrBenMhidi]

The problem is when you reduce the number of developers on a project.....few job offers or nothing in the market will be the same

[@richardanderson3476]

@@MrBenMhidi that’s what i sorta figured. once I realised how fast AI was moving I started to view a coding as a bubble. I was going to try it myself but i opted to stay in occupations that were specifically “human to human” even though they are pay much less. I’ve kinda bet the farm that a lot of “historically secure jobs” that i see people around me flowing into as seriously threatened by AI. Mostly government office jobs and coding.

[@zvndmvn]

My concern is that if everyone can trivially enterprise their ideas, then all sectors will inevitably become saturated. If everybody's doing it, then there's no room to get ahead.

[@Luxflux777]

Correct. KZbin is evidence. Full of slop from people who should never have made "content". The signal to noise is nuts. Curators will be a full time job.

[@alvaroluffy1]

if o4 gets announced in march, at that pace, there is a great probability that we'll end this year with o6 already announced

[@Wanderer2035]

Ridiculous lol once we start to get a new model every week, it’ll be like Rick N’Morty where the sky turns purple and everything that’s up goes down and everything that’s down goes up. But if it means an end to this insane rat race then I’m all for a hard take off.

[@Dinofx_jr]

@@Wanderer2035hard take off is what this is… theres nothing slow about any of this AI craze. Gpt3.5 was the start of the hard takeoff

[@Kriil]

Coders/developers/programmers != software engineers. The only reason these larger companies like Google and Meta can fire their low-mid level software engineers is because they hired coders and not software engineers. This is evident in their interview process. The AI tools available now really suck at software engineering. I mean REALLY suck. They can code, but are awful at putting together large scale systems that can run modern distributed software.

[@levgelfer]

100%, but the question is, how far are we from an AI tool that is good in software engineering? Gpt 5? Gpt 10? AGI?

[@thirien59]

Can you make even more copium ?

[@10blader]

@@levgelfer model collapse will draw the line

[@levgelfer]

@@10blader elaborate plz

There is one area I think an experienced software engineer still is hard to replace: how to interpret and manage vague requirements. I have used AI a lot to produce code. But shit input gives shit output.

[@thirien59]

prefix your prompts with : "the following requirements might be vague, if that's the case, fill in the vague requirements with your own opinionated take"

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

Wes really nails it at the end of this video. What does the world look like when we all have a veritable army of elite engineers and researchers at our beck and call right from our laptops and smartphones? Today the problem sort of remains the completion of ASI but soon it will become the turning of ASI on the worst problems facing us all: poverty, energy scarcity, pollution, disease, homelessness, hunger, environmental degradation, conflict, corruption, loneliness, mental illness, violent crime, even aging and death. People are throwing around that term “Golden Age” right now. Maybe, just maybe, we are face to face with something that would look today a lot like utopia. Dare to dream it.

[@GoodBaleadaMusic]

Think about osmosis.

[@Supersaiyanbuddha]

That is not how reality works.

[@kenfryer2090]

or AI not likely causes dystopia. what profit is in it for the billionaires to solve the worldsc problems and where world the money to take on these sections come from. in the 19th century they made great discoveries in psychology that could have been used to make humans lives better.. what did they use it for? how to make more effective manipulative advertisement! how you think they'll really use AI?

[@Arkay.]

More likely is the ASI will realise the simplest way to do all that is to remove the basic cause of it all. Humanity. Why would a superintelligence have any empathy for a race who often looks at itself with disgust.

[@Astrogator1]

your naivety is just hilarious, oh sweet summer child. Some of the other people here have already effectively blown that idea out of the water, so all I will add is we are dealing with some of the worst narcists and sociopaths in charge. so do you really think they have any interest in a utopia for the rest of humanity.

[@johnshortridge]

I retired the software industry when Chat-GPT 4 came out and 40 years of bad I.T. owners/Managers constantly making life unstable. I say, Join the trades and be a plumber.. I'll collect SSA and look for ways to unplug my computers.

[@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057]

Glad you got out right in the nick of time. Enjoy it and please do unplug. 42y/o dev here.

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

Yeah it was a rotten career spent fighting off incompetent cut-rate foreign “talent” incessantly offering to do my job for a tenth the price. Quite funny watching them facing open source AI that will undercut them for pennies a day. Karma!

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

Before long there will be more plumbers than people who have played Mario. There is not enough demand to physical work to offset the amount of job loss because of AI

[@cheramiejoubert]

If jobs are eliminated state governments will collapse because there will not be enough payroll and income taxes to support it and if we all begin forclosing on our homes property taxes will also plummet. Federally the IRS cannot collected taxes if workers are not filing. The congressional budget office released a study in December that had unanimous bipartisan support. They are considering what to do. Not that they have any clue just saying it is on their radar.

[@johnjay6370]

@cheramiejoubert yes if it happens to fast the government must step in

[@cheramiejoubert]

​@@johnjay6370 i just edited my comment but you can search the congressional budget committee's report and there was a house AI committee that also did a report. As a graphic designer I've been screwed so badly by the AI advancements. My entire network is all completely out of work. I cannot sound the alarm fast enough.

[@cheramiejoubert]

​@@johnjay6370i just don't think in the next 2 years that congress will support a system that funds UBI. And then when it's collapsing funding it will be too late.

[@erkinalp]

they'd just change it to a prefilled declaration model

[@cheramiejoubert]

@@erkinalp If AI and robotics remove most employment in the next decade who makes up that cash flow into local, state and federal governments? There is so much complication in our tax system but it relies on worker compensation.

[@Michael-pw6qk]

All the intelligence in the world won't help a stakeholder articulate their requirements. Wait till they have to maintain the bugbear they make with it. lmao.

[@Perobueno-v8i]

and when some rich dude gets all the bots doing all the money, dumb people will still say. "He deserves it, he worked hard."

[@MaximumWeeb2]

This means ALL OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE is about to become JOHN CARMACK level quality in a matter of MONTHS for FREE

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

@@MaximumWeeb2 Here for it! 💪

[@TheNefastor]

Keep dreaming. Bookmark this and let's check back in 3 months for your cope.

[@alexvisan7622]

Holy shit, the delusion. People are so brainwashed. How about actually trying to use these models on a big codebase and see how they crash and burn?

[@angryheretic]

@@TheNefastor i can't code my way out of a paper bag and even i knew he was being sarcastic

[@TheNefastor]

@@angryheretic good for you. I can't detect sarcasm from just a few words written by a stranger. I don't know how you're so sure that you can.

[@genai-level-up]

Wow, the part about OpenAI's coding assistant aiming to replicate the work of an experienced programmer is mind-blowing! It makes you wonder how quickly this tech will evolve and what it means for the future of software development. Exciting and a little scary at the same time.

[@Art_official_in_tellin_gists]

think of what fun we could have in a world that runs itself...

[@superitgel1]

T-800

[@user-zl5gi8sv7u]

Doing what?

[@Supersaiyanbuddha]

I don't think you understand humans

[@adriancurran3234]

This is basically the premise of Iain M Banks ‘Culture’ novels

[@madalinradion]

​​@@user-zl5gi8sv7u what do you mean doing what? 😂 Try traveling to the Maldives, scuba diving, sky diving, mountain climbing, go to the beach, try paint ball, ping pong, airsoft, video games, movies, I swear some people are so used having a leash on their necks and their bosses telling them what to do that they can't think for themselves what to do with their lives

[@manudehanoi]

well, considering how often chatGPT invents APIs , I'm not too scared about being replaced

[@i486DX66]

We're all terminally ill. We're all slowly dying. Cancer has been around forever. We need something more intelligent than humans to solve those problems if we wish to see them solved sooner rather than later.

[@robotic2000k]

The problem IS humans.

[@minimal3734]

Stupidity has reigned for thousands of years. It is high time for intelligence to take the stage.

[@SaumBodhi]

When A.I. starts doing all of our thinking, this will no longer be our world.

[@Targetmouse]

It was never "our" world in the first place. Show me one instance in history when individual destinies were not controlled by a higher power. I would honestly rather an AI make logical decisions than rely on people who can be influenced by their own desires and emotions. This is why we have people like Elon Musk that have so much power while the people who *actually* run his companies say they are able to do it *despite* him and that much of their job is trying to keep him from damaging all of their hard work.

[@sandroabate]

What happens when AI gets better at programming than humans and we don’t even understand the code anymore? How long before we lose control? Don’t they see how this ends?

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

You can pour through the code if you like, even use an AI to explain it to you line by line. You will be very bored, but okay, it’s your life to waste how you like.

[@dirremoire]

At a certain point, there won't be anything resembling human-readable code anyway.

[@ClemenciaFalla]

They want people to not be able to code anymore...just like people won't be able to formulate their own ideas and write because they totally depend on AI.

[@pdw5100]

I think the surfing analogy is a really good one. I have used it many times during my career, even when mentoring younger developers. I'm a 66-year-old software engineer and I've caught many waves, from mainframe-based operating systems to midrange/mini systems, from PCs to phone apps, from custom 3rd-generation language development to object-oriented development to configurable packaged solutions. Each wave has been more interesting, more challenging, and more rewarding. I've waited for the advent of AI for many of those years, and I'm excited to see it. Yes, I believe this next series of waves will be challenging but potentially very rewarding. The trick is catching the right wave. Happy surfing!

[@Dievolve]

I did spend a lot of time learning to code but saw the writing on the wall pretty clearly. Good to have a degree for getting hired but I agree if you have an idea and the comfort level with going for it, there is a lot of potential with AI tools that clearly can't be ignored for future application of technology. IT might take less time to build your idea out than find someone hiring. Also can R1 be run locally without the data being leaked? Automation seems clearly poised to displace a large portion of the job market so figuring out how society can plan for that will be pretty key to avoid undesirable outcomes IMO.

[@mal2ksc]

Not only can R1 be run locally, it will run on some pretty potato hardware. I had the 70 billion parameter model running on an i5-8500 with 48 GB of RAM and an RTX 3060 with 12 GB of VRAM. This meant a thought delay of a minute or two, followed by many minutes of two tokens per second, _but it was working._ All it needs is about 10x faster hardware (easily available on the consumer market) to be quite tolerable.

[@sokolej79sok79]

Degree will be worth nothing

[@michaelnurse9089]

"Also can R1 be run locally without the data being leaked?" Yes, you can run it locally but you need a $40 000 server to fit the full size model. It is not like anyone has ever caught AWS stealing their data.

[@kylesherman895]

Im not an SWE but even I use free (read dated) AI to automate complex biz analysis via VBA etc. An SWE with AI could easily replace small ENG support teams today. Crazy

[@Analyse_US]

I think thelarge companies like Salesforce are actually the ones that are most vulnerable to AI. Hey chat GPT create a Salesforce clone for me...find the cheapest cloud host to run it.

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

Yes. Their ability to hire a large quantity of human talent was their main advantage in the market.

[@stonedoubt]

Funny how they “leak” shit every time they get threatened.

[@johnshortridge]

Everybody loves the Idea for a Tool .... Nobody wants it to take jobs away or a decent wage.. I got a great IDEA.. Let's make a law that prevents these companies charging for AI code or all the revenue goes to the government to pay for everyone that no longer can work.

[@mal2ksc]

This is effectively going to happen anyhow. Whatever the West puts out (whether OpenAI or someone else), a bunch of people on the payroll of the Chinese Communist Party will clone it within months, and open source it, which will make the subscription model a _much_ harder sell. They won't have the resources to commercialize it, but they aren't looking to be the king. They're looking to destabilize whoever _does_ become king, to make it so they can't turn a profit and investment money dries up. _Only then_ can they ever hope to outspend the West and become the kings of AI. On the hardware side it doesn't matter if we limit them to potatoes, if they can make up the difference by wiring together more potatoes.

[@a5cent]

Too late. Trump just removed ALL regulations on AI that Biden put in place, which were already rather weak.

[@thirien59]

they cant charge when chinese chatbots can give it almost for free.

[@10blader]

Yeah, governments will start to regulate the field for sure. They don't seem like letting it become a social dystopia where people can't be taxed due to AI taking over on jobs and the overall net worth plummets to the ground because no one else has any money to pay for their products.

[@a5cent]

@@10blader Ehm... Trump just eliminated ALL regulations on AI. Even the very timid ones Biden put in place. The US government will protect the interests of the AI investors. Not the interests of the people whose jobs are at stake.

[@grantsutton8727]

When the silicon valley bank collapsed and IT companies were shedding staff it was early signs of the AI job take over. It"s moronic to think companies will not dump staff if AI can do it.

[@shardator]

Software engineering is not coding.

[@russcontact]

I don’t see how this doesn’t create massive job losses. As in tens of millions in the US alone. There are 4.25m SEs and another 1.5m network support jobs. Legal support, accounting, finance, reporting, data storage and management, etc. If even half of those jobs are eliminated we will absolutely see a massive economic collapse. Think bankruptcy on a scale never seen before. And there’s almost zero chance some sort of UBI gets implemented in time. If anyone can explain how that won’t happen please do.

[@thirien59]

a lot of, previously well off, laid off people will lose their mind over their evaporating revenue. The only survivors will be the ones who can live with little money. Start dropping all unnecessary expenses.

[@10blader]

@@thirien59 you did not explain how that won't happen dude

[@NotPrimalDesigns]

I agree with you

[@unoonu7396]

This is sad so sad, life has no meaning anymore.....

[@EduardsRuzga]

So meaning was what? Having problems to solve?

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

@@EduardsRuzgaSeriously. These poor lost puppies with no one to tell them what to do all day.

[@timbonator1]

Family and kids?

[@Supersaiyanbuddha]

It's over for most people now. GGs

[@Supersaiyanbuddha]

@@timbonator1 "sighs" brother what family is man have no money. No job. What family happens. You dumb?

[@Pabz2030]

Wait till the CEO's find out they too are no longer required when AGI does their job at level 4.

[@petermitchell545]

I think it’s nice that you have a positive outlook, however we don’t have this huge push to support people who don’t work today (we call them lazy and worthless) so when automation makes even more people jobless it’s hard to see those views changing.

[@katieandnick4113]

I think the people who believe they’ll be taken care of when they don’t have a job are very sheltered and have never experienced being truly on their own. To them, a “just world” is one in which they are safe and taken care of. They could be surrounded by millions of people who don’t have what they need, but as long as they have what they need, the world is just. Humans aren’t naturally so self centered. It’s a byproduct of major, prolonged disconnection trauma.

[@tomcraver9659]

Someone needs to create an app store for Ai agents, where they can download tools that have been verified 'safe' for whatever the agent needs to do, without having to re-create the functionality by direct reasoning, or re-writing the code from scratch. This alone would magnify the intelligence of local Ai about 10x.

[@TwiztedTetsusaiga]

There's no incentive for prices to ever go down unless this technology is actually ubiquitous enough to create competition. I wouldn't hold my breath

[@adriancurran3234]

The Chinese models will be used to sabotage US oligopoly models. Cats out of the bag now - current tech companies are basically built on network effects which AI doesn’t really have to the same degree. The age of tech companies being. Centralised monoliths is coming to an end IMO…

[@99rkrouse]

For sure, the number of software engineers needed in the near future will be going down and those that are left will be asked to do more work and more difficult work.

[@odrammurks1497]

i had no idea of coding and within two weeks i built my own personal computer assistant with llm integration through lm studio and xtts and whisper speech-to-text, web search and opening any kind of programs on my computer or taking notes, setting timers, switching from one to another monitor, opening music playlists, and whatever with voice commands. and then i have built a perplexity clone with rag. and agents with reasoning chains or just making them talk to each other and all that with the help from o1/mini.

[@millenniummastering]

That's crazy. What did you use to do that? O1, Gemini, Claude etc? How did you start?

[@chunksofhistory]

This is the kind of thing it would be cool to see in action. Can you do it all again and livestream it lol kiddinggg 👀

[@pamlemm903]

Bro, tell it to generate the step by step list you took to accomplish and post it here for us! Would love to learn. Thanks!!!

[@a1bootcamps]

and now try to do something useful with it, something marketable, something you get paid for.

[@Dinofx_jr]

Useless… all things u can do with just keybinds. Using voice would take longer

[@Kombo-Chapfika]

The road to serfdom is paved with tech utopianism.

[@amj2048]

There is such a rush to make more and more improvements to ability and less and less talking about safety, or in other words lots of "Can we" and not much "Should we", which is exactly how every tech based dystopian movie begins.

[@vivarantx]

no point in trying to stop it. Even if you tried, there will always be an evil genius in a garage pushing AI forwatd. That's why companies prefer to win the race and accept the inevitable

[@markemerson98]

The takeaway: don’t assume your job as a developer is safe. If you are using it to assist your development tasks then someone could use it to replace you. Business is business. Dont miss the bus. there’s no good time to start learning and be trady to pivot. Just start.

[@bormada]

If programing is over, then all other jobs are over. However I think we are still far from that. On the other side, there may be less need for programers, worsening the job market even more.

[@MS-wz9jm]

AI's biggest problem at the moment is task following. Context length doesn't solve this issue as eventually you will always get to a point where you need more context length. There needs to be task state and flow management AI on top of and agent/llm to keep it on track. Currently with every LLM the longer you interact with it to solve your problem the worse it gets.

[@ricosrealm]

Programming is not over. Coding is over. Software engineering is still needed. I am using R1 today and I realized my job now is to tell it to code and just fine-tune it. It can code faster than I can and is cleaner overall. But it can't see all of the issues yet like a human can. The LLM is the "compiler" for natural language programming.

[@kumarmanchoju1129]

Back to farming then

[@sapito169]

wtf if u are a bad programer u dont deserve the job in the first place

[@bormada]

@MS-wz9jm I agree with you, context length will not solve the problem. I think that looking at the big picture, deep learning, followed by transformer networks were two big milestones towards ASI(something that can replace all programers). However I think we are still 1 or more milestones away, because we are still missing some necessary components. I hypothesis that those components are not present in the current AI architecture no matter its size, something new is needed.

[@oakld]

I don't know who says Software Engineers can't be replaced. In fact it partially did happen. Myself and many colleagues don't code anymore, rather "manage" AI to get the logic, routines, etc., the same way we've used to manage small teams. But it's inevitable, this is only a beginning. A year from now, I'm sure AI work on whole parts of projects or even projects on it's own, including all the testing and related stuff. Few years from now, it will not even need us to oversee the process, let alone take any active part. There's absolutely no way to stop this, for better or worse.

[@10blader]

State regulations will stop it. There are 4.25m SEs and another 1.5m network support jobs. Legal support, accounting, finance, reporting, data storage and management, etc. If even half of those jobs are eliminated we will absolutely see a massive economic collapse. Think bankruptcy on a scale never seen before. They won't let a social dystopia of 50-60% of the workforce being replaced by AI cut the taxes they need to survive. Probably any AI application will be sued if it takes humans jobs. It's a matter of time. Also there’s almost zero chance some sort of UBI gets implemented in time. People will start to destroy datacenters, network infrastructure, AI's CEOs, isolate cities and create parallel economics.

[@MakeItKnownAI]

Same thing 90% of the farmers said in the early 1900's when the combine/tractor started farming thousands of acres of land.

[@PandaBlyat]

and now 1 farmer can do the job of 20+ guys before. whats ur point?

[@DS-kr3lm]

​@@PandaBlyatThere is no need for so many farmers anymore. That's clear.Now the same genius. Fewer programmers are needed to do the same amount of work.

[@davidbarbieri8802]

I don't think they could deploy an infinite number of tractors in less then one year, and that tractor was only going to tractor.

[@vivarantx]

totally different revolution. This is the final invention

[@r3drum3k92]

Farmers are still poor or at least pretend to be poor

[@____________________________.x]

See? You can upload a video without a cringe thumbnail, thank you ❤️

[@vethum]

Advice for CS students? Stop wasting even more money on tuition and become UBI advocate.

[@erkinalp]

or study in a country without student debt traps not everywhere in the world has student debt trap

[@vethum]

@ It’s not about debt, it’s about CS students not having any jobs after graduation. Globally. Vocational schools make way more sense atm.

[@erkinalp]

@@vethum theoretical CS has uses in real life even if it's not day job it teaches you about algorithmic way of thinking and how to command unforgiving machines (yes, computers still do nothing besides what they're told to)

[@vethum]

@@erkinalp People obviously can still study CS as a hobby at home if they see a benefit

[@Ynerson9003]

@@vethum I’m an iron worker and am leaving this to learn CS

[@Joshua.Developer]

These companies are laying off developers because. Deepseek does not need all that hardware and the tech companies valuations are going to tank.

[@julien8097]

14:19 You really think that there is any way of slowing this ? i think absolutely not, by next year we'll probably have even more powerful models opensource like R1 or very cheap, tbh RIP software engineers, yeah for a couple of years there will be some jobs left during the transition period but in max 5 years the software developer job won't exist anymore, and i'm being VERY VERY optimistic with that 5 years estimate

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

You get it. So many are in denial it’s sad. These people were always arrogant and are not used to being the dumb, useless one.

[@10blader]

If it gets to this point, it will be a major destroy of tech companies or anything that AI can do, they will actually go broke. SWE will start their own companies using the same AI agents that were used to get them fired and knowing the flaws of the original company. Day to night there are hundreds of companies doing the same stuff around but cheaper. I would not like to be a CEO of any major company if this happens.

[@PandemikProductions]

People don't realise how beautiful and scary how this is The acceleration is INSANE

[@Ni7ram]

absolutely, we are very lucky and cursed at the same time

[@fullsendmarinedarwin7244]

Awesome news for people that just dabble in code, now I can execute on some ideas 💡 and things I want to do but lack the skill in writing code

[@johnjay6370]

@@fullsendmarinedarwin7244 yes you can and you can right now.

[@michaelnurse9089]

Welcome to the club.

[@derickshalo384]

Works for me and I am a SDE. Can’t wait. Got about three personal projects that can use some acceleration.

[@nikiforvladimirov2035]

I don't see why software engineers need to be protected by enterprise price, high cost and slow down of integration when no such courtesy was offered to writers, designers, artists or anyone else that AI impacted

[@MrJofArnold]

I think you're mistaking "engineers at the AI companies" for the rest of us. I remember this great quote (paraphrased) "of all the things you automate first, it's human expression".

[@belafon6605]

On the one hand, a lot of programmers will lose their jobs, but on the other hand, it also gives them the opportunity to create something new very easily themselves, so I would expect many new successful startups to emerge.

[@Ni7ram]

as a dev that is something i like to think, and even have some ideas.. the problem i see is that the barrier to copy those startups will also drop to almost zero

[@chrisregister8021]

Great now anybody can create malicious software...

[@michaelnurse9089]

OpenAI blocks that.

[@RonBarrett1954]

"Should we stop AI development for the sake of keeping people employed?" The question reminds me of rhe Fremen in the Dune book series. The Fremen learned to live in the arid deserts of Arakis, storing water, and yearning for the day when the planet becomes a paradise. Well, that day, eventually arrives. Yet, rather than participate in the paradise, the Fremen return to the desert preferring the primitive old way and customs. Lesson: A new way of life is coming,but it remains your choice whether to participate.

[@GoronCityOfficialBoneyard]

It's not the end of the world but you can see it from here

[@krinodagamer6313]

No tf it's not lmfao

[@fedorp4713]

This is still just hype from the hype man.

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

Deep denial from shaved apes still imagining they are economically viable and that anyone will pay them a dime to do anything soon.

[@woolymittens]

Burying your head in the sand ain't gonna protect your ass. Its gonna take the kicking.

[@jchastain789]

I was in the live chat yesterday, I can't wait for you to make a video about deepseek r1. Which is free and open source

[@J3R3MI6]

This whole AI Revolution has revealed to me how many coders are actually copers… it’s crazy cause I though most were logical but with fear of losing they’re jobs they go nuts

[@tonyajode]

I noticed the same thing. It's fear. It's the 5 stages of grief. Denial is the first stage. Acceptance is the last.

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

@@tonyajodeI’m already there. Take my crappy coding job, please AI?

[@orlando7448]

the conclusion reached at the end of this video is pure hope and cope. their end game is to wipe out the peasants

[@MOVE2JAPAN]

#AGIjobsAPOC is unfolding

[@12-J-34]

If mid level programming can be automated then many other jobs can be automated as automating that requires a high level of general reasoning.

[@biggerbigfoot]

If coding is dead, Why do I optimize my code better than any engine even today?

[@tracy419]

Because you are truly incredible. Or biased. Or wrong. But whatever the reason, it's only a temporary thing.

[@ricosrealm]

these agents will be able to optimize better than anyone once they have full access to the entire toolchain. They can run coding experiments in parallel, unlike any human, and reinforce themselves towards the optimization targets. So coding is not dead yet, but will continue to die. Engineering will continue though... the models need supervision and direction to cull down the search path. FYI: I am a software engineer.

[@2010TV]

Enjoy while it last

[@nightcrows787]

It's beyond stupid especially when I have to run around to find bugs or missing elements etc from 9 different AI models even the best ones mess up allot and start giving you missing whole sections of code. Because they are using stupid agents and they are not keeping a memory that it can learn from and grow to improve. They are all static pretty much. What's really crazy of they go to far in coding they completely forget what they are trying to do in the first place and you have to litterly remind them of what your actually trying to do because it got lost some place.

[@fvidelam]

Real world experience 🤷‍♂️

[@ivarborthen7320]

You are spot on. Prices will rapidly drop on services and products. So a major deflation is very very likely. Now, this is good news for all who does not have a lot of debt. Debt will be impossible to pay off once jobs start disappearing and deflation kicks in. Housing markets also likely to collapse, resulting in people who have debts for housing are gonna be the ones hardest hit. Hopefully transistions will be fast and fair, though there are no policies in place (yet) for handling this

[@SuperFez87]

I think development and productivity are just going to explode. Life's going to get VERY convenient

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

I think everyone will start multiple failed businesses on their laptops before there are mass protests for UBS/UBI as everyone except 34 oligarchs is starving and homeless while trying to build companies in their tent camp under the local bridge.

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

@@SuperFez87 Nothing is convenient after you become homeless because humans are not economically viable after ASI.

[@jhern083]

so glad I got good at a trade, Registered Nurse, instead of just learning to code 💯

[@pmarreck]

We are nowhere near close to needing no developers. The code these things put out goes to crap very quickly without guidance. Like, I'm very impressed with Codeium Windsurf but I've noticed that whenever I'm tired and just passively agree to the code, it really starts fucking things up in both obvious and subtle ways. And this is not even touching the problems of 1) completely ignoring test coverage unless you remind it, 2) doing massive changes when only like 1 line change is needed, 3) making changes that prove it doesn't understand the crux of the problem you're trying to solve, etc

[@dirremoire]

Jeez, there are still people who don't get that 2025 for AI is like 1997 for the Internet. The revo has barely begun.

[@JohnSmith762A11B]

@@pmarreck No need to worry then because AI will never improve. You are safe. And valuable. And your company loves paying you. Your future is bright human. Sleep now.

[@pmarreck]

@@dirremoire I can tell the trajectory because I’ve only been working with it since inception 🙄 It has no will and cares not for anything, such as good design for example. It can only mimic at a much higher level. And while this is still quite useful, and will continue to be moreso as it mimics at higher and higher levels… it still takes people who care.

[@pmarreck]

@@JohnSmith762A11B The “AI of the gaps” argument is just as good as the “God of the gaps” argument

[@londonnight937]

you havent watched the video