Opening day ride in Vermont! 650 build is a ripper! '24 XRS Comp Turbo & 900R first impressions!

[@happyindeed6392]

This is the kind of video I like to see. No music please. Keep them coming.

[@offcambergarage9045]

Best trail riding video I have seen honestly no music just sled talk and noises

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Love to hear it! Finally getting back out on the snow this weekend so I'll have more riding content ASAP

[@Cultofpersonality09129]

Live videos with talking. THIS VIDEO IS PERFECT AND THIS IS THE BEST RIDING CHANNEL ON KZbin!!!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Just got another one up this morning! More on the way now that we've got snow!

[@Sdm07120]

Awesome job, I love seeing my local trails on the video! I really like the commentary while riding and the camera angle is great too. I especially like hearing your honest reviews/feedback on the different sleds, the good the bad how they compare etc., it is super helpful to hear because I plan on spring checking thing year and I ride those exact trails. I also will say that I enjoy watching a lot of different snowmobile KZbinrs but it’s fun watching someone that’s local and that is as knowledgeable as you are. Cant wait to see more riding videos I’m sure I’ll have some questions for you as the season progresses 👍🏼

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Love to hear this! I'm looking forward to getting more content from all over VT!

[@johnrautenberg205]

Where in VT is this? I live in NH and we’re looking for snow

[@MunsonMotorsports]

@@johnrautenberg205 It was up in Island Pond, but they've lost most of that snow and trails have been closed since the 17th of December. Very rough start for all of us.

[@KJCPAMi]

Good video, thanks for posting! I personally like the commentary and the information, particularly about the new sleds and features.

[@Duramax_Yamahaguy]

All the comparisons in one day in one video is just great 🤙🏻

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Thank you! I'm hoping to get some seat time on multiple sleds per ride and keep the impressions and feedback coming, every setup is different as every rider likes something else so it'll be cool to comment on the differences felt with everyones different mods

[@darrenmooney6852]

Excellent review of multiple sleds. Great seeing the NEK trails in video. My home turf. You asked for suggestions; maybe some suspension set up, ride, review, tips etc. Thank you!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Copy that! I've got some suspension tuning content out but it's mainly been front end related stuff on my Assault as I changed spindles and shock lengths. I have some more things I need to try/test that will make for some great setup related content...just waiting on somewhere somewhat nearby to get some snow/trails opened up again

[@pro_polarisrob8245]

Just keep doing what you’re doing, good to hear some honest feedback on each sled 👍🏻🇨🇦

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Trying my best! Thank you!

[@bradwoods9779]

Great video no music love the commentary and opinion on different sleds and your comments on what your feeling and doing to improve your sleds 👍

[@fredbishop9434]

More of this type of video. Excellent work. Love the honest assessment.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Just need snow and I'll have more of these rolling out as often as I can!

[@pliskie6]

Great video, love the commentary and hearing the differences between the sleds. You and I have very similar tastes in what we like in a sled. I already miss my Assault!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

The Assault really is a fun sled, a bit more work to push it through the twistys but the fun factor makes it worthwhile!

[@troyalbright1165]

Great video enjoyed the feedback. 650 playfulness is tough to beat. Send Michigan some snow!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

We lost all of our snow yesterday and today with flash flood style rains, any snow we get I'm gonna have to be selfish with haha 🥸

[@revrdr600ho]

So happy to see great content in my local area! Great video! To answer some questions: I think the amount of pre-ride footage was fine. I like the commentary over riding, and the mic worked well; it sounded great with minimal or no wind noise. I would say, don't time lapse riding, but do put music over it if it seems monotonous or you didn't have anything to say during that point. Also, glad to see the 650 is working well, I saw the Facebook post of your crew riding and knew we were about to get some feedback! Keep it coming!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

As soon as we get some more rideable snow I'll have more riding content out! I appreciate you following along and giving feedback, thank you

[@cnmn9493]

Good video. Liked the commentary! Enjoyed it!! I'm jealous. Still no snow here.....

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Thank you! We unfortunately lost it all with 50* and heavy rains yesterday and today, back to square one :(

[@tomwilliams3039]

I like the commentary, good camera work aswell, keep em coming man

[@edwinhermanson8842]

Nice video ! Looks like the 650 did well. I absolutely love mine. Best sled to date.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I'm over the moon with this sled! The engine really is an impressive unit, I can't wait to get back out there on it (assuming we ever get some snow again)

[@Mr85GT]

Awesome audio quality!! Love the info while riding….you gained a sub👍🏻👍🏻

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Thank you for the support! Trying my best to make things entertaining and somewhat informative at the same time

[@zachlange4535]

I think you’ve talked me into the race spindles on my Matryx Indy!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

They're definitely a big change, but they are working as I'd hoped. I would keep in mind the amount of rearward weight bias they'll create and be prepared to have to make some rear suspension changes to compensate if you do go that route. The CC spindle is a much easier bolt on and go route, however they won't give you the gains these race spindles do it right. Worth noting, the 2024 race sled spindles use a different upper ball joint so you need 2023's. I haven't confirmed if the new 2024 race ball joint will fit in the standard trail arms yet, even if it did, it adds another element of cost so the 2023's are still the move for those looking to go down this path.

[@zachlange4535]

@@MunsonMotorsports Id love to dial mine in like yours, looks like it’s really point and shoot!

[@bmickle]

Love to see it - never rode VT trails. Commentary over the riding is good

[@MunsonMotorsports]

VT signage and ease of access is pretty hard to beat! If you ever get a chance to ride over here definitely take it!

[@MPJohnny5]

Awesome video love the no music hearing the sounds of an engine and some commentary 👍

[@DaveMasse-e6g]

Great video, curious did the 900 have smart shocks? Just bought a new 2023 900 r with the smart shocks haven’t had a chance to ride yet. Looking at grass in the UP of Michigan.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

This one has the standard KYB's with the 3 position adjusters. I've ridden a couple SmartShox sleds and they do their job for sure, they work very well for a lot of people and being able to switch modes on the fly as conditions change is pretty sweet. If you really start pushing them and you go from stutters to big bumps quickly there is a VERY slight delay you can sometimes feel as they calibrate to the new conditions, but you need to be very in tune with what you're feeling to notice it. It's an impressive system however I do feel it can steal a little bit of the fun factor, but that depends on what you're looking for out of the machine ya know, that part is very rider preference based. I have a very fond memory of ripping a demo sled on the Standard setting through some real trash and being impressed with how well it handled it all, and then after slowing back down, flipped to comfort mode and it was like a pillow again, pretty sweet to be able to do that on the fly.

[@Yammi1990]

Commentating is welcomed! Some music is good, but I like the current video set up you have.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Thank you for the feedback, this seems to be the most popular opinion and that's good because I really enjoyed making this one. Looking forward to the next as soon as we get some snow!

[@mainenorthwoodshunter3265]

Very cool video. I appreciate you giving an honest opinion on riding each of the different sleds. I am a paraplegic rider up here in Maine. I wish you were closer. All I can afford right now is my 07 Yamaha Attak. I could really use your input on how to set up the suspension on it. I do realize it is a heavier sled being the 4 cylider 4 stroke but I am sure it needs to be dialed in a bit and I have very little experience with snowmobile setup. I would eventually like to get into the newer style of sled. We shall see. Maine North Woods Hunter (Shane)

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Hey Shane, thanks for commenting here! It's certainly been a while since I've dabbled in the Yamaha's but I'd love to do what I can to help ya out getting the Attak setup. Can you shoot me an email to [e-mail] and we'll go from there!

[@marksmith9459]

No music. This video is great. Keep them coming.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Thank you! I plan to do so as soon as we get some snow back!

[@RichWhiteman369]

Those jet skis sure do look fast 🙃

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Pull up and try one out!

[@robturner1231]

Good job on the videos Keep them coming Something seems off on the skidoo 850 comp Probably should’ve rode it stock before doing the pipe and can so you had something to benchmark off of. I know you were just doing what the customer wants though. I’ve only got 80 miles on mine so far and not a lot of opportunity to open it up but did not notice that laziness when you grab a handful. How many RPMs were you pulling? I would look for a leak near that fitting you tapped on the airbox.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

The JAWS equipped sled would pulll 81/8200 rpm consistently, the stock one was 79/8000rpm. Airbox is all good. The fellow comp turbo that pulled up at the intersection was asking us about pretty much the same feeling, he was coming off one of the Doo mountain turbo sleds last season so was familiar with the powerplant. I'm assuming they're pulling timing at WOT while in break in.

[@ryanc1414]

Man one of the best investments I’ve ever made was a tekvest. You might not ever need it but if you do it’s priceless. Plus you won’t get bruised from ice chunks lol. You feel naked without it after the first ride

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I actually have a new one in the trailer, I just always forget to throw it on like an idiot. I definitely use it when ice racing but constantly forget on trail where it's probably more important

[@ryanc1414]

@@MunsonMotorsportsyessir, it’s funny when you stop for lunch and people snicker but when you explain to them what it does, they understand. Nice to see your sleds are running good, I’ve got a 129 vr1 and SBA boost setup this year too

[@R6_Nitty]

Keep talkin about what’s happening and what you’re feeling. That’s your style with how you do setups and whatnot.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Gonna have to get out on your rig at some point and make sure it's working right 😉

[@R6_Nitty]

@@MunsonMotorsports I can already hear it now. “Yeaaa we need the taller spindles, shock revalve, and dual rate boys” 🤣 Feb should be go time bubba

[@Revrider550]

So jealous you got to ride man! Trails look pretty solid for early season too. Awesome video keep up the great work!! Just make sure there’s no music, it’s what the people want!! 😂😂

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I'm assuming most mean no music over the riding, and I definitely support that! We all wanna hear the sled noises!

[@Revrider550]

@@MunsonMotorsports for sure! Just got a kick out of how many times it was said. You definitely do a great job utilizing it without overdoing it!!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

@@Revrider550 Thank you man, it means a lot! Been trying to keep the tracks cycling and adding new ones occasionally to not wear any of them out 😵‍💫

[@austinbigelow9926]

Hey man what exhaust is on the Polaris boost, completely agree it doesn’t seem obnoxiously loud. I was riding opening day too, our truck was the black GMC 1500 minimax at the beginning of the video. Got a Pro S 800 this year and came with a SLP can and was very obnoxious and I felt like “that guy”🤣😂. Love the sound but the exhaust was too loud and ended up putting stock muffler on

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I'm real glad to hear you were able to get out that day too! On one hand I feel like it was a cruel tease and we're worse off for having gotten to ride, but on the other man am I glad we made it out haha. As far as the muffler goes, the Boost muffler is one I modified myself, it has very different design than the N/A mufflers but I was able to utilize/modify one of the chambers in it to achieve what I was looking for. I've played with the N/A mufflers as well and have a mod for those too, it's a bit more tame than the Boost but it does give it a little extra tone without being obnoxious. The 650 has the modification done however doing just the muffler mod won't make it sound like the 650 does.

[@MPJohnny5]

Btw bro get yourself a tekvest and don’t have to worry about the ice pellets along with alll the other reasons

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Oh I have a brand new one in the trailer I've worn once for ice racing, I just always forget to throw it on like an idiot

[@darrrenbetker4266]

feb 3 and we here in nw manitoba still havnt had an opening weekend yet.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

It's been a VERY rough year for a lot of folks. I'm just thankful to be able to get in the truck and go where the snow is...although I'll be honest all the driving is starting to get a little old.

[@craighafner9716]

How was the was the new HYGEAR suspension and was it worth the money

[@MunsonMotorsports]

That kit does truly work really well. It does it's job and is worth every penny. It is however hard to say what the linkage by itself did or would do as I made a lot of changes off the get go, but it does indeed *feel* bottomless. I was able to bottom the rear a few times, and while you could tell it bottomed, it wasn't the gnarly jarring/slam effect we commonly think of when bottoming the rear of these. It was so much more controlled on the hit AND the rebound to where you just went "ah yup, bottomed a little bit there" versus the older common "oh man i just blew my spine through the top of my helmet".

[@Keith63060]

How much juice did you use....I believe you on the 1/4 throttle...snappy....

[@MunsonMotorsports]

They barely used any of the ICE at all, maybe half-3/4 of a cup? Still 3/4 or more of the tank left to go

[@anthonynicotera9561]

2023 VR1 Boost 1700 miles. What reeds do you recommend

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I've been using the new updated 2024+ Vforce petals with great luck! I usually pair them with the Indy Specialty billet manifold since I'm in there and it's a decent job to get everything apart. You can call Indy Specialty if you're looking to get just the petals and they'll set you up, let them know I sent you their way if you do! www.indyspecialty.com/product-page/patriot-boost-intake-manifold

[@billjacon4527]

What would you recommend in place of the pilot skis?

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Depending on where you ride and what you're looking for it could vary greatly; for average groomed trail riding the Polaris Prosteer is really hard to beat with the Woodys Navigator, I prefer a 1/2" round bar like the SnowStuds Magnum, but they work really well with just about anything, a lot run them with Shaper bars for the extra initial turn in, but I've made that up with geometry changes in the spindle swap on the 650. The SLP Mohawk is the go to aggressive trail/need it to TURN in all conditions ski, it has great characteristics in the deeper/loose snow due to it's width and wide outer wings yet it also still has somewhat lighter steering effort than some of it's other aggressive counterparts due to it's curved keel. There's some additional tricks to keep the Mohawk from darting and steering even easier, but you start getting expensive when you add it all up. I've heard really good reports on the Polaris Gripper ski as well, but haven't had any personal experience. The Curve is a solid option too, I found it to work best on the groomed trail but in a similar fashion to the prosteers, when it gets really deep and loose they have a little more push than I'd like. I could talk skis for hours haha

[@billjacon4527]

Lol, Thank you for the input!

[@Keith63060]

Really nice video .. don't change.....how is the comp....campaire to the boost

[@MunsonMotorsports]

They're very different animals, you have a lot of refinement with the Doo and a lot of playfulness/fun factor with the Assault. The Comp still being in break in is hard to judge, but the potential is definitely there, it's a nicely packaged machine.

[@bkdwar5138]

Ty for video, love the content... I have a question. I have 2020 assault 850, do u have an easy way to adjust rear shock????? I barely can reach it and not enough leverage to turn the clicker.... uggg....

[@MunsonMotorsports]

The front or the rear track shock? I know some of that era Walkers had REALLY stiff adjusters for some reason. You could look into a shock rebuild and ask the builder to inspect/swap out the adjuster with another one, but aside from that I don't have too much feedback for you unfortunately.

[@hotham88]

I am disappointed that comp don't work better I have only rode mine around the yard and the brakes I think feel soft just in my yard which I expected them to be firmer then my G4 but they are not.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I would say the brake was the biggest let down for me, but it was also the part I had the highest hopes for. It has decent modulation but the overall bite isn't much different than the original 2 piston. However the new lever IS really really nice, love the feel of how that new lever hooks your finger.

[@JDENT-r1m]

Did the air box tubes work ?

[@MunsonMotorsports]

From what I can tell they did! This little engine is a runner, it's crazy fun to ride. Later this week I'm going to get it back in the shop and pull plugs, borescope the pistons and see how she was burning, but it didn't have any hiccups all day and kept smiles on faces

[@RobertSneek]

Definitely commentary. Nothing spoils a good ride vid like listening to music you can't stand.

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Copy that! Thank you!

[@Cultofpersonality09129]

Those turbos need an intercooler. That bog is timing bouncing back and forth with the meth injection. Meth is for wide open throttle. Look at the difference a bigger intercooler makes on a sidewinder. Sorry Ski-Doo it needs a intercooler…. Meth is a bonus. 30-40 hp is being left on the table and throttle responsible and reliability.

[@dskofich]

NO RIDEABLE SNOW YET HERE IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA

[@Keith63060]

Need some octane boost in the comp.......

[@Keith63060]

Was the comp with you in the field....

[@MunsonMotorsports]

The two comps were way off screen to the right, was too busy trying to keep the Assault straight in the fluff to look over haha

[@sleddheadxp800r]

Did you ride the stock pipe comp turbo?

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I did not get to throw a leg over that one unfortunately! Next time out though!

[@sleddheadxp800r]

@@MunsonMotorsportswondering how they compared

[@anthonynicotera9561]

Taller spindles?

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Yup! I'm running 600R tall race sled spindles on the 650, and 2023/24 CrossCountry tall spindles on the Assault. 600R spindle is 2" taller than the standard trail spindle, CC spindle is 1/2" taller.

[@kwmiked]

Walkers dont have Rebound adj, Hi and Low speed

[@kwmiked]

U go to Northern Maine at all throughout winter?

[@MunsonMotorsports]

@kwmiked Mine do, 2" body Velocity fronts that Andy Wenzlaff has added hi/lo speed compression adjusters as well as rebound adjustable shafts. It's a pricey upgrade for the W/E but I won't ride a machine that doesn't have rebound damping on the ski shocks.

[@xGR1MxREAPERx]

Can you plz plz plz get these guys together one more time and race those comp sleds against a boost or a stock 900t lol.. god the forums are getting annoying with these comp guys saying it will do 150 mph and break in is limited their sled to half its normal Power or something? 😂😂😂😂. Plz help us out haha. If it’s fast then great if it isn’t then also great.. end the misery and the mystery of these sleds haha.. 😆😆😆

[@MunsonMotorsports]

Man Dootalk is going craaazzyyy, I knew the Skidoo crowd wouldn't be thrilled but some are taking it way more serious than I expected. I received a multitude of private messages from Comp owners stating the same exact feeling but they didn't want to post about it because they didn't want to deal with the backlash, which I understand. The potential is there, just gonna take some tinkering to get it working as we're all hoping.

[@xGR1MxREAPERx]

@@MunsonMotorsports did you see, 900T with smart shocks and ice ripper track 630lbs and skidoo 850T comp 609lbs lol.. that means with a normal track and regular XRS shocks the 900T is basically the same weight or within a couple pounds.. 😂… love it!!!!

[@MunsonMotorsports]

@@xGR1MxREAPERx I haven't been on DT yet tonight, almost finished editing up the next video. I'll head over there as this exports/uploads. I do know moving the comp around by hand in the shop, it's definitely all there...but so is my Boost Assault lol

[@bettyswain5100]

Send the snow to ny

[@kenricmeyer]

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[@msanc315]

Sound bias… I mean for someone that works on sleds you should know it’s in break in mode

[@MunsonMotorsports]

I did state multiple times that it's still in break in mode, was the audio not clear? I may have missed a spot in post editing

[@patrickminer5086]

Anyone who says anything bad about the comp turbo are called out for bias. I say everyone who owns one isn’t willing to give an honest opinion yet on their very overpriced and overhyped sled. Lets be honest. Its has a really nice shock package, and maybe 15 extra hp, which is gonna turn out to be very dependent on conditions. Ski-doo way over exaggerated the function of the ice system. Na 850’s have struggled with inconsistency for years, this sled is gonna be even worse.

[@benburton6420]

Until you go through 21 gallons of fuel you will not get full power unlocked. Reserve comments on power until break in.

[@fxnytroxtxFPP]

Anything but music

[@larrywarner9314]

More riding , less talking

[@jimmywoller7320]

I disagree🤣 I’d get bored watching