Opening the Door to the Armored Conning Tower

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Battleship New Jersey

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@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
The sound of the locks when he rotates them is satisfying.
@studinthemaking
@studinthemaking 3 жыл бұрын
True.
@eliasgordon4321
@eliasgordon4321 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Who knew they might be able to start a Battleship ASMR channel? Lol
@adamc8627
@adamc8627 3 жыл бұрын
Why was that one of the 1st things I thought too? And how did they capture it so well? Am I autistic? 😆 lol
@f-ducket4586
@f-ducket4586 3 жыл бұрын
@@eliasgordon4321 Agreed! Such nice sounding gearing .. designed by engineers using slide rules and made by machinist using analog tooling.
@colinl2908
@colinl2908 3 жыл бұрын
Sounded like bank vault door pins sliding into place from a movie.
@user-wl7pj7xt4v
@user-wl7pj7xt4v 3 жыл бұрын
Every time he finds a piece of equipment that still works, an angel gets its wings
@davidb6576
@davidb6576 3 жыл бұрын
Not wings, its Repair Badge.
@dougwestphal7003
@dougwestphal7003 3 жыл бұрын
And what if you are right. How many Angels have got their winngs
@wykpenguin
@wykpenguin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the battleship is the best evangelical instrument. One salvo and how many souls go to heaven?
@tcpratt1660
@tcpratt1660 3 жыл бұрын
@@wykpenguin Ask those poor Iraqis who saw the USS Wisconsin's drone...hands UPPP!!!
@jadedengineer
@jadedengineer 3 жыл бұрын
But it’s never his microphone that he finds working...
@Curien247
@Curien247 3 жыл бұрын
"The air just stops moving" ... (reevaluates life choices) "So, let's crack this sucker back open."
@nottiification
@nottiification 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine cranking the door closed goes a lot faster when theres shells landing all around the ship.
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it feels slower
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 3 жыл бұрын
They would open it even faster if the ship was foundering
@alexmoi2735
@alexmoi2735 3 жыл бұрын
and the ship is listing...
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
That's assuming they bothered to use it in the first place...
@rulebretgne5244
@rulebretgne5244 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeebus6263 Drach has a whole slew of jokes about that
@Cipher160
@Cipher160 3 жыл бұрын
“Radar will never spin” *spins* “Door will never open” *opens* “The Navy will never reactivate the Iowas” ...
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 3 жыл бұрын
We will never fire the 16" guns ...
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
I say we do just for fun, if i ever run for president that will be my campaign :)
@basmca1
@basmca1 3 жыл бұрын
It would ofcourse be awesome to see them in action again, but they would need to be practically rebuild to be of any use. With the current technology she would just be a massive floating free target.
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
@@basmca1 you're making a lot of assumptions, they were built for a particular purpose clearly requirements are ever changing. However a country's warships have also always represented the nation in a way, and that requirement has not changed very much since the great white fleet did it's thing.
@genejeffries2888
@genejeffries2888 3 жыл бұрын
@@basmca1 free target for what? No one has anything that would sink one. None of the current crop of shipkiller missiles are designed to deal with that much armor. You might be able to break her keel with a few well timed torpedoes. Maybe bunker buster bombs... nothing has guns that can do more than make her cranky. Nothing in any navy has anything with armor like that anymore. If you could secretly refit them in a meaningful way and turn them loose, the world's navies would shit a collective brick.
@chrisb9960
@chrisb9960 3 жыл бұрын
If you aren’t leaking hydraulic fluid you are out of hydraulic fluid. I’ve heard that before... from someone in the army. They were discussing a CH-47 Chinook.
@acbhorn3
@acbhorn3 3 жыл бұрын
It's very true had a crew chief tap me and say "hey if that quits leaking let me know" very fun flight....
@corystansbury
@corystansbury 3 жыл бұрын
Same advice for a CH-46
@Lemonjellow
@Lemonjellow 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing goes for oil leaking from an 87 F150 with a 300 I6... 😆
@coyotehater
@coyotehater 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not leaking, it’s just marking it’s territory...
@danielharnden516
@danielharnden516 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder how the shuttle crew felt
@vaikkajoku
@vaikkajoku 3 жыл бұрын
Next week, we see Ryan hand crank a main battery turret.
@MoparNewport
@MoparNewport 3 жыл бұрын
OOF! Probably would have to settle for the 5" battery getting hand cranked though.
@ian_987
@ian_987 3 жыл бұрын
Thats gonna have to be a time-lapse one
@JustSomeCanuck
@JustSomeCanuck 3 жыл бұрын
"As you can see, me and three of my Olympic weightlifter friends have pulled out the crank handle..."
@USS_ESSEX_CV-9
@USS_ESSEX_CV-9 3 жыл бұрын
@@MoparNewport with a couple people you could probably actually turn a 5" 38 caliber twin turret. I'd say somewhere between 2 to 10 people depending on the strength of the people you're using and how much thought was put into these things being manually trained. You might just be able to get away with a main battery turret if a LOT of thought was put into it. (You also would need a LOT of people regardless of how much thought was put into it)
@Foxyjosh
@Foxyjosh 3 жыл бұрын
The Texas has a system in place to do that. lots of chains on pulleys and lots of people to make it work.
@Tuck-Shop
@Tuck-Shop 3 жыл бұрын
I have never heared someone so happy to say I was wrong. This honesty is one reason why Ryan is so awesome
@OmegaReaver
@OmegaReaver 3 жыл бұрын
Now that we know the doors can close, we definitely need a Nicholas Moran style "Oh bugger, the conning tower is on fire" demonstration!
@tcpratt1660
@tcpratt1660 3 жыл бұрын
Drachinifel has form in this department, I mean, with a video like "Oh Lord the ship is on fire/sinking/exploding/disagreeable..." ! :)
@jeffjr84
@jeffjr84 3 жыл бұрын
@@tcpratt1660 that was the damage control one it was good. lol My response to wwii japanese damage control was "wow they had that" because of that gap in tech knowhow and the fact that they could not deviate from procedure on pain of literal beatings.
@can_hauler
@can_hauler 3 жыл бұрын
Considering how things where (probably) done back in the last few years of the 30s, and how just about everything on NJ is built to last I wouldn't be surprised if somehow there is still some grease in there that came with the ship when she was first launched
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
That goes for most classic or vintage equipment
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm signing up for the curators tour. No questions.
@ashman187
@ashman187 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, you get to ask questions ....
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashman187 rude of me to assume I'd get any questions 🙃
@JosephLedbetter
@JosephLedbetter 3 жыл бұрын
@Greenish Man I think he said about $500 in a video recently. And he said he can accommodate like 15 people but it'd be better to bring a small group of 3-5. However I'm new here don't listen to me :)
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 жыл бұрын
You're mostly right, we generally cap it at 10, but yeah, we recommend smaller groups.
@chrismath149
@chrismath149 3 жыл бұрын
I was always glad that I can live in the 21st century but goddamn, serving on a battleship would have been awesome, and probably infuriatingly uncomfortable.
@doughudgens9275
@doughudgens9275 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan doesn’t need gym membership: between all the ladders, hatches, and repair work, he gets plenty of exercise.
@johnbuchman4854
@johnbuchman4854 3 жыл бұрын
He has to stay trim for his barrel crawls.
@mr_no_fun8789
@mr_no_fun8789 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a shipyard in Philadelphia. Lemme tell ya, I was in the best shape of my life! Hauling buckets of tools and welding leads up from the dock to the main deck then down to the bottom.
@Chiraq312boi
@Chiraq312boi 3 жыл бұрын
You should see how fat most of the navy is now.
@AvengerBB1
@AvengerBB1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chiraq312boi Army too. I'm a chunky civvie, but there were some guys I could run circles around stationed at Ft. Huachuca a few years ago... We're talking kids there for AIT training fresh outta basic too. Almost made me want to try signing up... lol
@joerg-michajahn4963
@joerg-michajahn4963 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually impressed to see how easy it seems to be to operate the whole mechanism.
@davidb6576
@davidb6576 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. But as mentioned, on a rolling ship at sea it's probably not quite so easy.
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 3 жыл бұрын
Ever seen a bunch of sailors loose an anchor? That's why they like to keep things simple... -- 'Cause you may need these systems when you have something pressing on your mind. (I have the greatest respect for people willing to lay down their lives in service of God and Country).
@sierraone9181
@sierraone9181 3 жыл бұрын
Best Iowa Class Channel by far. Wisconsin powered up their Tomahawk launchers last year to elevate; no video. Love the NJ; been there twice!
@davidstewart5811
@davidstewart5811 3 жыл бұрын
That is some serious engineering to move that smoothly after all these years.
@UnitSe7en
@UnitSe7en 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. It's not precision, it's just big. Not really an engineering marvel? Just good old steel and big gears.
@thiagofeltrin9841
@thiagofeltrin9841 3 жыл бұрын
@@UnitSe7en it's pretty obvious now that you are not an engineer haha it's amazing to see a mechanism that has been used a lot, passed through a lot and already aged to simply function. And this one function with perfection.
@CasabaHowitzer
@CasabaHowitzer 2 жыл бұрын
@@thiagofeltrin9841 not really. The mechanism is incredibly simple and very sturdy because it's so big
@sheeplord4976
@sheeplord4976 Жыл бұрын
@@thiagofeltrin9841 It isn't a particularly advanced system. The door weighs 3800 lbs, but B-17 bombers carried multiple 2000 lb bombs aloft using aluminum spars through turbulance, flak, etc. Engineering is not just making something work. Engineering is about making something do the most at the lowest cost.
@jg2072
@jg2072 3 жыл бұрын
Given your emphasis on the redundancy of the ship you should know there is a way to manually open the door. Impressive engineering.
@raygiordano1045
@raygiordano1045 3 жыл бұрын
There's so much more to warships than making floating guns than I imagined. Between this channel and Drachinifel's I am learning a lot.
@jeffjr84
@jeffjr84 3 жыл бұрын
@@raygiordano1045 watching both of those guys i can tell you the ship is more about redundancy then killing. like drac says, It can run from most of what it cant kill. if he says operation ten-go is a go run lol.
@shannonp922
@shannonp922 3 жыл бұрын
There's a manual back up for every system on board a warship. He needs to do a video in after steering and show the crank handle for the rudder lol
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 3 жыл бұрын
I have never been on a ship like that, and I knew there had to be a manual redundancy system in place. That's how it is with every critical piece of machinery, especially military maritime and aerospace ships.
@raygiordano1045
@raygiordano1045 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlejackalo5326 Redundancy is a little like paranoia. Sure, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid enough? You don't want your ship mission killed for want of a critical system, but you don't have an infinite budget, nor weight capacity. In engineering, and most things in life, it seems there's always a trade-off.
@blowinkk9396
@blowinkk9396 3 жыл бұрын
That door is probably opened with a set of gears not hydraulics when doing it by hand
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, similar to power steering
@MrBen527
@MrBen527 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm also assuming he was turning the gear set that's otherwise driven by the hydraulic fluid.
@USS_ESSEX_CV-9
@USS_ESSEX_CV-9 3 жыл бұрын
I think the gears are actuated by hydraulics normally, which is probably why he thought that the door was not openable because if hydraulics are acting on reduction gearing then a LOT of forces probably required. The hydraulics are probably just there to open and/or close that door in a reasonable time frame
@DimensionMachine
@DimensionMachine 3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree, the hydraulics normally spin the gearbox, but it can also be operated manually. No hydraulic fluid whatsoever would be required, which if you think about it really is the point of a backup redundant system. Amazing engineering and craftsmanship in these old ships!
@williamstrachan
@williamstrachan 3 жыл бұрын
@AmericanPatriot14 - depends on the aircraft. I know the Jetstream T1 the manual pump was still working on the hydraulics.
@tyree9055
@tyree9055 3 жыл бұрын
So that's where Ryan goes when he wants some peace and quiet! ☝😅
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473
@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 3 жыл бұрын
Like, not even the police could get to you in there. Lol
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 In Canada during the 1990s they scrapped the main nuclear bunker the government was supposed to run from after WW3. When they tried to auction off the bunker that was designed to survive a hydrogen bomb they had only one private bidder. The Hells Angels! Wisely they decided not to sell to them and it became a museum instead. diefenbunker.ca/en/
@danielharnden516
@danielharnden516 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. I’ll have peace and quiet as soon as I spend minutes cranking this handle and hope somebody doesn’t know how to climb up into the conning tower. I’m sure Ryan has tons of places that he is maybe the only person in the decade to get to. We have seen several of them
@clementwolf4081
@clementwolf4081 2 жыл бұрын
@AmericanPatriot14 used to do diving and once had a buddy take long on a small lake for he went in so considert it safe .... i then continued to go to 7ft , check for animals and had a relaxing lay down "sleeping with the fish" when i came up 5 min after when i recognized him going in i went up. ( bit of a sailor story - but my diving watch said i been under for half a hour there....)
@mikes954
@mikes954 3 жыл бұрын
Us viewers wouldn't be here if not for an awesome curator! Your quest for understanding and knowledge is contagious!
@sharlin648
@sharlin648 3 жыл бұрын
quick question. If heavy round did actually impact on the armour but was defeated by it and didn't pen, wouldn't it still be horrific inside from the sheer concussion, as you're basically locked up inside an armoured bell.
@guywhodoesstuff3314
@guywhodoesstuff3314 2 жыл бұрын
It would be awful, that's a massive amount of kinetic energy being transferred into that metal. Sound would be unbearable, and the concussion the crew would feel might possibly be lethal depending on proximity.
@GameOver-fn2og
@GameOver-fn2og 2 жыл бұрын
Direct impact of round from battleship's wouldn't have to penetrate it to kill person inside. Energy from impact would be transferred through metal wall and cause spalling effect on other side of the tower's armor.
@biosaber585
@biosaber585 2 жыл бұрын
so what you're asking is also kind of the same question that occurs with tanks. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, you could survive but it's NOT going to be fun and may knock more than one person unconscious if not outright kill someone. The big variable here is the round that's hitting the tower. Smaller size shells would overall cause less damage and also be less detrimental to the crew inside the tower, and of course things like wiring and other parts of the interior will help dissipate the vibrations as they absorb the energy from the hit, but a sufficiently sized shell that would dent, mar or damage the armor is almost assuredly GOING to kill someone, maybe not everyone, but at LEAST one person is likely to be killed from the impact. Of course attacks like that tend to have causalities of other varieties so I doubt that'd be as big a worry as yknow.. a shell punching through the deck or something to that degree
@visionist7
@visionist7 2 жыл бұрын
The crew inside would all wear flash hoods I think and possibly wired headphones to be able to communicate with the crew outside and down in the engine rooms etc. Maybe the headphones would help a little. Then again probably not much
@smokeonthewater5287
@smokeonthewater5287 2 жыл бұрын
Similarly armored conning towers of other ww2 battle ships were penetrated like butter. That armor protected from 5-12 inch guns but 14-16 inchers slice through it.
@sailcat662
@sailcat662 3 жыл бұрын
My fear would be having the mechanism fail after locking myself in.
@tim_bbq1008
@tim_bbq1008 3 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for him to lock all the bolts and then we hear the pin drop. Uh-oh...
@clementwolf4081
@clementwolf4081 2 жыл бұрын
@@tim_bbq1008 and then you get "the chieftain" ? o no the ....... is on fire ? (rip my dear sailors if you know who i mean)
@ashleighelizabeth5916
@ashleighelizabeth5916 2 жыл бұрын
My thought was along the lines of being in the thing during a battle if the ship started to capsize and sink and not being able to get out... Gives me the willies to think about stuff like that.
@vf12497439
@vf12497439 Жыл бұрын
Fairly sure the local fire department isn’t equipped to deal with 17” class A armor and 3” locking lugs to hold a 3,000# door in place🙂
@fsodn
@fsodn Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I suspect the other armored door, behind the camera, is open for that very reason.
@teegirl4568
@teegirl4568 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Ryan was going to say that the door is so well balanced that he could move it with one finger.
@julieenslow5915
@julieenslow5915 3 жыл бұрын
That is true of most bank vault doors. But the bank doesn't move, rock or roll when the bank is open. Usually.
@kiiiisu
@kiiiisu 3 жыл бұрын
@@julieenslow5915 usually yes but have u watched most recent pirates of the caribbean? :D
@julieenslow5915
@julieenslow5915 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiiiisu I've seen four...I think. How many are there? They seem to multiply!
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
@@julieenslow5915 Unless it's in California during an earthquake.
@julieenslow5915
@julieenslow5915 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCAvhstape Very true that!!
@BIBSTERSrepairshop
@BIBSTERSrepairshop 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at mess around with things that still work......
@jamesnewing886
@jamesnewing886 3 жыл бұрын
When allowed, I will be coming from the UK for the curators tour - thanks for the content Ryan and team, awesome.
@walter2990
@walter2990 3 жыл бұрын
My admiration to the guys who continue to address this ship, and even making the small brass fittings shine! This is from a retired Firefighter who had several years of Wednesday "Brass Days", where we polished all of the brass on everything brass on the trucks & in the station! Thank God for the "Never Dull" polishing products!
@GrockleTD
@GrockleTD 3 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the door that weighs roughly 50% more than my car
@unluckyirish2763
@unluckyirish2763 3 жыл бұрын
If you got your fingers caught in that door you aint gotta worry about em any more
@davidrobinson3716
@davidrobinson3716 3 жыл бұрын
I hope some screenwriter in Hollywood sees these videos and write a movie about some battleship museum staff surviving a zombie apocalypse on board an Iowa class battleship. No zombie is going to open that door from the outside.
@aaronmarshall3940
@aaronmarshall3940 3 жыл бұрын
Im not the only one thinking zombie plans ?
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
We are in a Zombie apocalypse, they're just lame zombies... less braindead (not by much) and more masked
@eniszita7353
@eniszita7353 3 жыл бұрын
that would be very cool. and I bet the battleship staff would make a deal with a studio to film there.
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the movie Battleship? Aliens are attacking earth and some navy guys and retired veteran tour guides get the USS Missouri battleship operational. It's pretty ridiculous, they get steam up in about an hour, and there are live 16" shells and powder on the ship, it's still fun to watch.
@eniszita7353
@eniszita7353 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigredc222 totally unrealistic, yet fun in terms of a heroic story of old sailors operating an old ship. in real life the turrets needed something like 90 men per turret to operate.
@howitzer8946
@howitzer8946 3 жыл бұрын
WOW, more new things learned. THANKS Ryan
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 2 жыл бұрын
To think this entire ship, was built without modern computers & modern machining. It's truly a marvel of engineering.
@unknown-ql1fk
@unknown-ql1fk 3 жыл бұрын
The noise the locking pins make-amazing
@aleccrombie7923
@aleccrombie7923 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness for that demonstration. I had visions of you trying to push it. The more I learn of this battleship,the more I am impressed
@Oldguy1900
@Oldguy1900 3 жыл бұрын
Retirement goal: Full time volunteer on a Iowa class Propper name : Armored conning tower. What guys call it: Man cave
@daldrete01
@daldrete01 8 ай бұрын
I love the sound that the locking pins make
@benwelch4076
@benwelch4076 3 жыл бұрын
That was so cool, that is some really fine engineering to be that smooth after almost 30 years between greasings. I feel I need something like that in my house, just to crank it open and close. Imagine the stress relief, from doing that. If I ever get to that part of the country I am so getting that tour.
@midship_nc
@midship_nc 3 жыл бұрын
curators tour sounds awesome...wish we had that at BB55 North Carolina
@mikekopack6441
@mikekopack6441 3 жыл бұрын
The gun turret tour is fantastic and highly recommended to anyone who has any interest. I need to go do it again (it's been a few years...)
@andrewfletcher5584
@andrewfletcher5584 8 ай бұрын
Love to see items on the ship that are still functional! And thats a good way to get me to sign up for curators tour!
@bernardk3437
@bernardk3437 3 жыл бұрын
Ok we need video on history Ryan, and how you know all this knowledge
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 жыл бұрын
Check this out kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3bFpGdnZa-oe6M
@josephalexander3884
@josephalexander3884 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you Mr. Szimanski.
@IvorMektin1701
@IvorMektin1701 3 жыл бұрын
That door weighs the same as my '86 T-Bird!
@robertmcdonald1419
@robertmcdonald1419 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. I stood right there looking at that door and imagining it closing almost 20 years ago. I love this channel, as I get to revisit this awesome ship again. The tour of this ship was incredible. It's worth making a long trip to experience what Ryan works so hard to preserve. I moved away from NJ in 2006 and really wish to go back and visit soon. I will be touring the ship again for sure.
@fogdelm
@fogdelm 3 жыл бұрын
are there no blowers for air? that seems like a missed opportunity. Of course, if your going into a battle.. I would bet that the "claustrophobic" feeling is more like an armored hug all protected and safe.
@andreww2098
@andreww2098 3 жыл бұрын
probably not working as the ships mothballed
@BattleshipNewJersey
@BattleshipNewJersey 3 жыл бұрын
Generally the blowers on board do work, you can hear them in many of our videos, but there isn't one in the conning tower, its too tight of a space most likely.
@Hemimike426
@Hemimike426 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if vital parts of the ship were thoroughly CBRNized as part of upgrades, it'd make sense then for the conning tower to have filtration and overpressure systems
@aserta
@aserta 2 жыл бұрын
The only damage for this channel is the changing sound quality, other than that, chef's kiss.
@mikekopack6441
@mikekopack6441 3 жыл бұрын
I was half expecting the door to get stuck closed and you being trapped inside! lol
@Beemer917
@Beemer917 3 жыл бұрын
I am a machinist. Dad was a machinist, Opa was a machinist.I always had carbide insert tooling . Maybe back in '81 when I first started I used some steel tools. I know how to sharpen a steel end mill and hand grind my own lathe tooling out of steel blanks but that's old school. I really feel for the Machinists who's work I see on this fine battleship. I can imagine how long it took to make just the door for that conning tower! They must have been carving at that thing for months, and it's just one part! The men who built this ship were some serious craftsman, that's all I can say. Good job boys.
@tim3612
@tim3612 3 жыл бұрын
Cant' wait for the Beer fest on New Jersey! Remember to take the tour first.
@chasjetty8729
@chasjetty8729 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I don’t have much of a chance to make it out and see the ship in person, but your videos give me a chance of a lifetime. Really amazing to see that door swing. Heavy little piece o history.
@notme123123
@notme123123 3 жыл бұрын
What places do you think are safer than the conning tower with the door closed? Cheyanne Mountain? You have the ultimate panic room!
@leftnoname
@leftnoname 3 жыл бұрын
Iowa had advantage over Cheyanne Mtn.: it was well protected and mobile. First, they’d have to locate and establish a track of Iowa, then, they’d have to try get in range and deploy weapons and hope to actually score a hit and survive. And, of course, Iowa could absorb anything, but a very close nuclear explosion.
@rossinimauro
@rossinimauro 3 жыл бұрын
@@leftnoname sorry to say no, a modern torpedo will sink her easily as it will detonate under the keel, where TDS is limited to double or triple bottom. When Iowas were built torpedoes hit the side of the hull. Nowadays they attack the bottom 'breaking ship's back'. On youtube you'll find plenty of SINKEX videos involving torpedoes.
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, but you can't get off-world from an Iowa. :)
@Predator42ID
@Predator42ID 3 жыл бұрын
@@rossinimauro While effective, there is no guarantee that would work on an Iowa. Since those same torpedo's won't work on Supercarriers, odds are they won't work on battleships, so a direct hit will be needed.
@SlavicCelery
@SlavicCelery 3 жыл бұрын
@@Predator42ID Not to mention, if the Iowa's are out for dirty deeds... they're going to have so much ASW surrounding them. They well have at the very least some form of aircraft carrier accompanying them. Along with Destroyers, Frigates, and Cruisers.
@pt109che
@pt109che 11 ай бұрын
Great demonstration, we visited USS Missouri in December 2023 at Pearl Harbor and amazed by the thickness of the conning tower.
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 3 жыл бұрын
Theoretically, if the hinge was shot off, wouldn't unlocking the door cause it to fall out of its jam on it's own accord?
@8vantor8
@8vantor8 3 жыл бұрын
The proceeds to put a door sized whole in the floor
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 3 жыл бұрын
@@8vantor8 Hey, it's better than being trapped in the conning tower.
@md4luckycharms
@md4luckycharms 3 жыл бұрын
@KING/ARGLE/BARGLE/THE/4TH/OR/SOMEBODY/ELSE along with the locks, if the locks could retract in that position it looks like the door would fall out
@c.a.mcdivitt9722
@c.a.mcdivitt9722 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not convinced that your "protusian" would continue to function if the door were unlocked, since it depends on those locks to take up the weight of the door, which is otherwise sitting on a sharply angled jam.
@md4luckycharms
@md4luckycharms 3 жыл бұрын
@@c.a.mcdivitt9722 we are all in concurrence
@rogerrathbun444
@rogerrathbun444 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan , I served as a BT on the Iowa and the Wisconsin . I would have LOVED to have served on all four but they decommissioned them before I could accopmlish this goal. You do a GREAT job on these videos
@ThePTBRULES
@ThePTBRULES 3 жыл бұрын
I own a bank and bank vault, with said door. Yes, this is a brag, and the door's mass is such that it keeps going once you start it.
@jamestamu83
@jamestamu83 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Interesting topic and fun to watch the old mechanisms still work like new. Ryan has the perfect demeanor for a curator. Knowledgeable and willing to share information with others in a non-condescending manner. Wish I lived closer to NJ b/c I'd definitely sign up. Keep 'em coming!!
@Lemonjellow
@Lemonjellow 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has to move the print section on a printing press that weighs close to that with just an 18" diameter handwheel... it is absolutely amazing what gear reduction can do...
@MoparNewport
@MoparNewport 3 жыл бұрын
Im an automotive tech. When you see how insanely tiny most gears are that directly propel any given vehicle, it gives new appreciation to 'mechanical leverage gear drive'.
@a64738
@a64738 3 жыл бұрын
You can move a 4 ton sailboat with one hand... The weight of the door is not really a issue on itself, you can move a 10 times more heavy vault door by one finger when it is well lubricated (but it will be slow). The door is made like that because if you could move it by hand it would also move around and be dangerous when the boat is out at sea when the ocean waves make to boat roll.
@MoparNewport
@MoparNewport 3 жыл бұрын
@@a64738 difference being the medium- a boat is in water, a turret on metal bearings riding on cold grease n metal. Massive friction coefficient difference.
@a64738
@a64738 3 жыл бұрын
@@MoparNewport You can still open a 10 times more heavy vault door with one finger, in fact it is much more easy then moving a sailboat on water. As I said the reason for the door being moved by cranking or hydraulics is to lock it in place so it can not flap about when the boat is moving... Is that really so hard to understand???
@toddr1124
@toddr1124 Жыл бұрын
That thing cranks closed pretty dang smoothly and quickly! A very well thought out system!
@trshaffer
@trshaffer 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, just wondering if it was ever actually closed in combat. The accounts I have read seem to have the crews out on the bridge when battle was going on.
@8vantor8
@8vantor8 3 жыл бұрын
They absolutely had it closed in combat, no better way to protect your ears from the 16 inch guns when your that close
@invader440
@invader440 3 жыл бұрын
It's a condition Zebra opening so yes it would have been closed during combat or when the ship was at GQ.
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
I think the brits stopped including them, several were removed from other ships in rework. They were hardly ever used...
@Ranzoe813
@Ranzoe813 3 жыл бұрын
The noise the locking mechanism makes while being engaged is strangely satisfying...
@oceanhome2023
@oceanhome2023 3 жыл бұрын
That is some quality steel and brass !
@jackhenry2272
@jackhenry2272 3 жыл бұрын
Curators tour sounds awesome, know what I want to do next time I come
@HaddaClu
@HaddaClu 3 жыл бұрын
When the ship was in mothballs was that door kept shut and locked or just shut? I mean I just took a look at the other video as well and I didnt see any other way to open the conning tower from the outside if it was kept locked unless the navy had some poor grunt greased up climb up the trunk and then use the hand crank.
@Therealguymins
@Therealguymins 3 жыл бұрын
the ending made me realize how wholesome this man is
@jamesluck2969
@jamesluck2969 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I was always under the assumption that the safest part of a Iowa during a battle was off the ship.
@dundonrl
@dundonrl 3 жыл бұрын
Only if you can swim really good!
@leftnoname
@leftnoname 3 жыл бұрын
I’d take my chances aboard an Iowa rather than in the water.
@lars7935
@lars7935 3 жыл бұрын
As long as there are no other aircraft around the safest place is probably in one of the spotting aircraft.
@danielharnden516
@danielharnden516 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say back in Iowa but maybe too cheeky. Much better to be on the ship than in the water.
@alnonymous9361
@alnonymous9361 3 жыл бұрын
The safest place is in port but that wouldn't be very helpful. Calm seas never made a good captain.
@iamsam8446
@iamsam8446 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing the enginuity, precision, and build quality of machinery from this era. Battleships, missile silos, and dams are built out so well and able to withstand almost everything - and still function today.
@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738
@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that the crank was a direct mechanical feature of the door and also it is just electric motors that open and close the door; what you would need for the system to be hydraulic is a fluid tank, pump and control levers and if it were hydraulic it would take a lot more time to operate the door with a hand cranked pump
@edfrawley4356
@edfrawley4356 3 жыл бұрын
Despite Ryan's protestations about taking forever and a day that door seemed to move pretty quick once he started turning the crank. Sure seemed like a mechanical operation from my perspective.
@galfawker339
@galfawker339 3 жыл бұрын
True.. You need a mechnical crank when the hydraulics is NOT WORKING.. So it make no sense to crank a failed hydraulic system in any design.
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the "gearbox" he was turning is just a hydraulic motor. The return tank and all that are on the lowest level of the ship afaik.
@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738
@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738 3 жыл бұрын
@@tissuepaper9962 There was no hydraulics associated with this door, just a manual crank and an electric motor
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 3 жыл бұрын
@@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738 I didn't see your name initially, I will defer to your expertise.
@ArcanisUrriah
@ArcanisUrriah 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't think it needs to be locked open, as it probably won't move" But if it _does_ start moving, nothing will stop it! lol
@mtlbstrd
@mtlbstrd 3 жыл бұрын
Ryan, I have to say, I’m a big fan of your work. I’ve watched your early videos, and you sir, have come a long way. Great job, glad you do it and glad y’all have put out these vids.
@BuschLightMatters69
@BuschLightMatters69 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any record of of a battleship commander using the conning tower in combat?
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
Probably not
@FltCaptAlan
@FltCaptAlan 3 жыл бұрын
During the Battle of Tsushima during the Russo/Japanese War, the Russians used their conning towers while the Japanese didn't, and they didn't protect the Russians too well, with Admiral Rozhestvensky being injured while in the tower
@Cirux321
@Cirux321 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think I would want to be in there. Highly restricts field of view of the battle. Plus if a bomb or shell hit the conning tower, it most likely wouldnt penetrate it, but everyone inside would be incapacitated anyway. The shockwave from the impact would rupture eardrums and ring their bells bad enough to take the crew out of the fight. That's why the Royal Navy and eventually the US Navy did away with the heavily armored conning towers.
@zeedub8560
@zeedub8560 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Captain Baker of U.S.S Texas did after the pilot house was hit by a shell that bounced off the top of the conning tower, but I just looked it up and he transferred command to the Executive Officer, who was already stationed in the tower. I suppose once the armored doors are closed for combat, you don't open them to let someone in. Even the Captain.
@jonakers704
@jonakers704 Жыл бұрын
It has been over a year now since this was filmed, and I have to say that you have taken great strides in production value since this was filmed! Those doors are easy ones when compared to the reactor compartment doors that I had to open on both a nuclear powered cruiser and even the submarine that I trained on... your door cranks open in about 30 seconds... ours took about 30 minutes of cranking to get open properly.
@toddwebb7521
@toddwebb7521 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that Bismarcks bridge crew got stuck in the con after the doors jammed and roasted by the fires on the ship I don't have a lot of faith in a conning tower.
@8vantor8
@8vantor8 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf Bismarck also had over 2000 rounds and over 10 torpedoes shot at her, and that didn’t even sink her( her crew ended up blowing her up themselves)
@Predator42ID
@Predator42ID 3 жыл бұрын
@@8vantor8 Hornet, I refuse to die.
@8vantor8
@8vantor8 3 жыл бұрын
@@Predator42ID wasn’t that the Yorktown?
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
Bismarck's is probably the only con-tower ever really used, idk...
@tommatt2ski
@tommatt2ski 3 жыл бұрын
Hood's conning tower was blown clear of the sinking ship by the detonation of the forward magazine , and was located several hundred yards away from the forward portion of the wreck. It was said to be 600 tons in weight
@akrocuba
@akrocuba 3 жыл бұрын
I love these vids about the New Jersey and battleships in general. Great job!!
@craigcontofalsky4387
@craigcontofalsky4387 3 жыл бұрын
Guess they thought the guys in the conning tower were the most important guys to keep safe!😀
@Yutaro-Yoshii
@Yutaro-Yoshii 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely lubricated! The sound of the lock actuating is so satisfying!
@Yutaro-Yoshii
@Yutaro-Yoshii 3 жыл бұрын
Safest place: Outside the ship
@edevans5991
@edevans5991 3 жыл бұрын
Logically the safest place is in the powder magazine. If you are in danger then the whole ship is in danger.
@jameschenard7691
@jameschenard7691 3 жыл бұрын
Augghhh...you just beat me! Agree 100%. And as an added bonus...if it is compromised, you’re not going to have time to worry about it.
@leftnoname
@leftnoname 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to keep in mind is powder magazine could have been flooded if deemed necessary. I’d say conning tower and fire control room were the spots to wait put a situation.
@johnasbury9915
@johnasbury9915 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing that things still work so well on her. What quality of build!
@scottbruner9987
@scottbruner9987 3 жыл бұрын
To answer your question at the end, the safest place on an Iowa in combat, is FAR AWAY from the range of anyone's weapons. 😂
@scottbruner9987
@scottbruner9987 3 жыл бұрын
@Willie Dynamite I agree.....not too much to worry about there. Maybe a rogue combine harvester....
@johnbuchman4854
@johnbuchman4854 3 жыл бұрын
Safest place would definitely be the cockpit of the Kingfisher, cruising well clear if the action!
@Aubury
@Aubury 3 жыл бұрын
This one part of this battleship is an awesome piece of engineering, no expense spared. How the crew inside would have been effected, by a heavy shell hit, is another matter. Very impressed..
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda crazy that even he's still learning things about the ship
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think these ship were really easy from the cutaway views in my kids magazines. Seems they left out some details....
@willdsm08
@willdsm08 3 жыл бұрын
That ship is big, I mean really big. I doubt there has ever been any one person who knew everything about the ship, it's just too big.
@MaximMachineGun
@MaximMachineGun 3 жыл бұрын
I think that might be the safest place in Camden NJ! I could see this video becoming a bit of priceless knowledge in that town!
@Ozark-nq9uu
@Ozark-nq9uu 3 жыл бұрын
It's all good until you close the door only to find at that moment all the hydraulic fluid has leaked out of the system and you are stuck inside. I assume there is some sort of redundancy?
@jeebus6263
@jeebus6263 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure hydraulic fluid is necessary for the hand-cranck to work
@Lucas12v
@Lucas12v 3 жыл бұрын
It may or may not need fluid depending on how it's designed.
@Ozark-nq9uu
@Ozark-nq9uu 3 жыл бұрын
@KING/ARGLE/BARGLE/THE/4TH/OR/SOMEBODY/ELSE I must have missed that part. Thank you.
@gwydionrusso3206
@gwydionrusso3206 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cool if you guys started offering the ability to open and close the conning Tower doors as part of some of the tours
@Bane_Diesel
@Bane_Diesel 3 жыл бұрын
When I visited last weekend this door was one of the things I took a bunch of pictures of because it was insanely thicc.
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 3 жыл бұрын
8:27 My vote goes for the aft barbette. Statistically, most hits taken by battleships occur on or near the forward superstructure and amidships. HMS _Hood_ was a rare example of a capital ship taking noteworthy damage aft, and the barbette and turret was some of the thickest armor aboard.
@bigwrenchgarage1360
@bigwrenchgarage1360 3 жыл бұрын
If you accidentally lock yourself into the conning tower, who do you call? Battleship Pop-a-Lock? No worries, a shipyard smoke wrench will get you out.
@billhanson4921
@billhanson4921 3 жыл бұрын
in about a week lol
@powerwagon1897
@powerwagon1897 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always.....I so hope to be able to visit one day , and will absolutely do the curators tour.
@AdamMGTF
@AdamMGTF 3 жыл бұрын
RN officers are confused by this silly armoured conning tower -thing. Daft "yank" idea. 😅
@georgerockwell-z3c
@georgerockwell-z3c 3 жыл бұрын
Watching that door close was EXTREMELY SATISFYING.
@SpartanElite43
@SpartanElite43 3 жыл бұрын
Where would I look into possibly scheduling a Curator tour and firing a 5 inch gun? I see the gun firing on your website but not the Curator tour. I would love to do the tour and record for my channel if that is ok. Obviously it would be in the future as it would take me some time to set everything up but I am sure I could raise the money with help from my audience on my channel. I absolutely Love the Iowa Class ships and Love this channel. Can't wait to meet you in person. Edit: I actually just found the email.
@ClarkPerks
@ClarkPerks 3 жыл бұрын
Curator’s Tour info - www.battleshipnewjersey.org/visit/group-tours/tour-options/
@Rightin02
@Rightin02 3 жыл бұрын
"if both of these have been shot away you've got muuuuch bigger problems" hahah. Thanks for sharing another amazing video. The volunteers are heros.
@ericbengtson2822
@ericbengtson2822 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best, I love your videos!!! I am planning on a visit/tour later in the year.
@obi-wankenobi4640
@obi-wankenobi4640 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to find Ryan when I was on the New Jersey back on May 18th but didn't see him. Had a great time touring the ship.
@TurpInTexas
@TurpInTexas 3 жыл бұрын
I'm claustrophobic , glad I missed the video where it showed you climbing through the gun barrel, that picture totally freaked me out!
@habanerocat2241
@habanerocat2241 3 жыл бұрын
The armored Conning Tower has two of those doors. One on the port side & one on the starboard. You can see the other one behind Ryan at 4:11.
@itsmezed
@itsmezed 3 жыл бұрын
I'm stunned not so much that the door mechanism and locks work, but how smooth they turn. Aside from a bit of squeaking, it didn't appear that it took a lot of effort a hand crack the door and it's locks. It's cliché, but they really don't build 'em like they used to.
@alwaysbearded1
@alwaysbearded1 3 жыл бұрын
No wear, no moving door frame. Works like it did from the factory. I bet they rarely used it except in battle or training for battle, at least by hand.
@gregclower9639
@gregclower9639 2 жыл бұрын
I was in the door industry fro some 12 years. Impressive to the engineering of the door and the buggers that had to "hang it." Big ass pivot hinge with seals, shims and bearings.
@Murph9000
@Murph9000 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that maybe the cable trunk was originally a viable escape route, but became blocked over the decades and various refits? It would certainly have always been tight, but it just seemed so close to being possible, and perhaps some addition or movement of cables over the years stopped it? With not much probability of immediate BB Vs BB action, they maybe considered it to be acceptable to lose it, compared to the effort needed to maintain the necessary clearance when making modifications?
@moparmike2535
@moparmike2535 3 жыл бұрын
That is super cool that the door still works after all these years. A testament to how things were built back in the day.
@Crushercorp
@Crushercorp 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these great videos, I always find myself watching them one in a while. Very informative and entertaining.
@stephenb9330
@stephenb9330 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen this similar "Battle Bridge" door on the USS Alabama, when I visited her during the summer of 2020. Very impressive.
@TrevooS
@TrevooS 3 жыл бұрын
Love watching these videos, always found ships, in general, interesting but you have taken time to do research and describe this battleship really well in all your videos
@mikekochanek9068
@mikekochanek9068 3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel and I have to say that I really enjoy your videos and appreciate the time and effort that you and the team spend making them!
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