@@AintNoWaye The pacing definitely sucked in the manga with weekly releases covering barely any time, but the show is doing waaaay better with great animation and matches taking 1 to 1.5 episodes
@nyx91773 жыл бұрын
Tokoyami: Why did you choose me? Hawks: because you are a bird HAWKS, STOP BULLYING THE KID JJSJAK
@hungry_khid10073 жыл бұрын
He screams gojo lol
@lovingameria3 жыл бұрын
@@hungry_khid1007 the fact that they have the same voice actor lmao
@nurdiana7693 жыл бұрын
Remind me of kuroo teaching tsuki about blocking but sometimes teasing tsuki with bokuto by his side (kuroo also have the same voice actor as gojo and hawks)
@spideywoo3 жыл бұрын
Pls he's so stupid I love him
@nyxlle3 жыл бұрын
name reveal hasn’t happened yet lmao
@Sergio-wm5du3 жыл бұрын
I just love how both hawks and tokoyami aren’t fully birds😂 like only 10-20% of their body is an actual bird💀
@Rensune3 жыл бұрын
20%
@kazesmaruai45043 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they swapped features like hawks had a bird head and Tokoyami had wings
@hamzaibrahim44423 жыл бұрын
Tokoyami has a full on bird head 🤣
@Eric_Smith26623 жыл бұрын
@@hamzaibrahim4442 yo wtf how did I forget that😂😂
@Sergio-wm5du3 жыл бұрын
@@Rensune kinda 10% cuz tokoyami only has a head of a bird which is like 10% of his body. Hawks only has wings which I guess is 20%. Also when he said that “he was only 20% serious” I don’t think he was talking about his bird parts I think he was just saying it as like a troll, but I could be wrong so don’t be mean ok. Anyways still I think 10%
@sensagesan3 жыл бұрын
i literally passed out after hearing aoyama's screech. that shit was funny af.
@ArlanKels3 жыл бұрын
Best part of the episode
@Lmonnaie3 жыл бұрын
FRR sameee
@qxpn92203 жыл бұрын
That was so damn funny 💀
@SolidSnake2403 жыл бұрын
Ayoma is hilarious lol
@NickEclipse3 жыл бұрын
I love how Hawks was just bullying my boy Tokoyami. Nigga knew he couldn’t just keep running all over Kyushu and didn’t offer him rides💀
@devontekuykendall35653 жыл бұрын
I'm stealing off on Hawks once if I'm Tokoyami
@hungry_khid10073 жыл бұрын
Gojo 2.0
@Kaden7863 жыл бұрын
@@hungry_khid1007 came out first though??
@rekashum72933 жыл бұрын
@@Kaden786 Hawks appearance was in ch 184 which was released in 2018 gojo appearance was in jujutsu kaisen ch.0 which was in 2017.
@Skrill-Catalyst3 жыл бұрын
I'm leaving the training and cussing that nigga out if that was me
@j.p3933 жыл бұрын
I love how the shadow guy is basically just fucking gengar bro😂
@angelsppp113 жыл бұрын
These animators must've been on demon time with the way they been animating the yams these last few episodes
@Shugoshin97203 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest when they need budget/time for yams and tiddies they find the money and crunch time for yams and tiddies
@Captainxafrica3 жыл бұрын
For how big my hero is they have a huge budget
@123newjersey33 жыл бұрын
shes 15 youre going to jail. might as well call you edp446
@angelsppp113 жыл бұрын
@@Shugoshin9720 lmao they make sure to triple check those scenes for the utmost quality
@angelsppp113 жыл бұрын
@@123newjersey3 hey 🤷🏻♂️ goes both ways when they got the male students showing off their ripped physiques. Rare moments indeed but they’re there
@popenashe47673 жыл бұрын
that dude that can move through the shadows is a closet villain i swear 😂
@amaliamorris71643 жыл бұрын
i thought the exact same thing dwl
@21god3 жыл бұрын
He has that in common with Monoma 😂
@grantezstephens19633 жыл бұрын
@@21godI think they have the same voice actor
@ma.20893 жыл бұрын
Honestly the 1-B group, besides big sis Kendo, are all closet villains. They’re terrifying. Yes, even Manga.
@frankiebigrings70483 жыл бұрын
he the traitor i swg
@nyx91773 жыл бұрын
Bones are really making everyone fall in love with arc , especially with the animation, even the manga readers that didnt like this arc are loving the work that Bones is doing, everything its just 💋👌
@charlesnortey91843 жыл бұрын
I think it was just the extremely short chapters due to health reasons. It really dragged the pacing out. At this rate we should get to Deku’s fight at ep9/10
@peytonalexander53003 жыл бұрын
I loved this arc, but that’s only because I was binging the manga at the time and didn’t have to wait week to week. Those short chapters would have driven me crazy.
@intuitivelymagician20763 жыл бұрын
Same I'm looking forward how the meta liberation arc will be
@MuhammadHussain-ic7bw3 жыл бұрын
@@intuitivelymagician2076 omg that's gonna be so sick bro
@tangroro3 жыл бұрын
The reason they are surprised is because his Quirk only makes him able to hide inside anything black, he only learned to controlled the things he's inside of after training, so 1A didn't expected it
@reigen.3 жыл бұрын
that's true, Tokoyami explained that he could hide in the dark but he didn't know that he could take control of Dark Shadow
@nstorm24153 жыл бұрын
After seeing dorohedoro, i would never underestimate someone with mushroom powers.
@AfroHayot3 жыл бұрын
Bro I can never look at mushrooms the same way again after Dorohedoro, holy shit
@Kekkersboy3 жыл бұрын
Nor should you. That mushroom quirk is nuts.
@NikoGoKrazy3 жыл бұрын
LOL that is the truth though
@bulegele21283 жыл бұрын
En would be proud haha
@moonborn89213 жыл бұрын
So true......just wait and see
@raec54263 жыл бұрын
Yeah this arc translates better *animated* because of the short page chapters affected the pacing due to the *author's poor health* and other things going on at that time that impacted it, as well as action more fluid being animated.
@joshuabevel75703 жыл бұрын
I had the fortune of reading this arc first when it was already long completed so I didn’t have the bad experience many fans had with this arc. I’m glad that it’s getting a much better reception in its anime form. The arc really does read much better when you reread it as a whole package. It’s far better paced that way. In fact, the Joint Training Arc is the one that I’ve actually reread multiple times.
@dearestkyra3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, it’s an exciting read when you read it all in one go.
@rodrigo27033 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the invisible girl will ever become visible. It feels so sad that nobody ever gets to see her... in normal days she wears more clothes, as a hero she only has gloves and boots, but other than that I barely ever notice where she is, specially in the manga. It's like looking for easter eggs trying to find her.
@MandatoryFruit3 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with the actual episode, but holy shit. The last few manga chapters have been absolutely incredible. Horikoshi is a goddamn masterclass writer.
@jacobtsou14623 жыл бұрын
Some quirks are mutation quirks that physically change the appearance of its holder and cannot be turned off, such as tokoyami’s bird head, hagakure’s invisibility, and tsu’s frog. Mutation quirks are active since birth. Emitter and transformation quirks, however, which can be activated and turned on/off, are often developed at later ages. So like invisible girl didn’t just turn invisible one day and tsu didn’t randomly turn into a frog, they were always like that. As for Tokoyami, he was born with a bird head (that transforms his actual body) and I’m inclined to believe dark shadow was developed at a later age, since he can turn it on or off.
@hungry_khid10073 жыл бұрын
Also the reason afo was so sought out people didnt want the quirks they were born with and like seen in ep 2 he can remove it and thus revert them back to human
@animusswtor48223 жыл бұрын
I love how many bird puns and jokes the episode made, got a pretty good laugh out of me. Also, I freaking love the animation for these episodes, especially when Kuroiro takes Aoyama with his amazing scream on a trip, if it's this good already this early on then imagine THAT fight in the second half of the season.
@SharkyShocker3 жыл бұрын
4:55 Just a point, they actually did train together. It's true that there was that whole beauty pageant thing going on last season, but specifically those two characters trained with the snake lady and it turned out to just be a bunch of beauty commercials. So Lupa's right here.
@gabriellelala53833 жыл бұрын
Kendo and Momo were both interning under Uwabami in season 2, that's when they did that commercial (which Kendo said made everyone compare the two of them/garnered them fans). The beauty pageant was during the school festival last season, only Kendo went because Momo didn't know about it and also was doing the band thing with the class.
@rjai50033 жыл бұрын
4:59 Lupa got corrected even though he was right
@timothyswindell48333 жыл бұрын
When Hawks said “those who can fly should fly” I thought we were going to randomly find out Tokoyami had hidden wings he never used lol. It would be cool he could change the shape of Dark Shadow. This was a dope episode
@tea_are_riii3 жыл бұрын
same 💀
@twopeople1583 жыл бұрын
When I saw dark shadow was elastic I thought dark shadow would become the wings and cover tokoyami body
@prophetofgreed3 жыл бұрын
Roshi teasing Manga's powers. Good stuff. Glad they're appreciating the effort from Bones, the 3D work this season has been impressive.
@Hotsoup263 жыл бұрын
But in the manga his quirk was called black 7:30, I would have laugh my head to see their reaction
@antoniothomas38813 жыл бұрын
In the sub, it sounded like he was saying black too
@123newjersey33 жыл бұрын
heard him say, "Kuroi" meaning black. but subs say dark because its probably interchangeable
@Vugtis_El_VillaVODS3 жыл бұрын
So they are airing black face in America right now??
@meandmyinsanity3 жыл бұрын
@@123newjersey3 nah, his name is Kuroiro, but when they explained his quirk the text said Dark, but the narrator said Black (literally Burakku)
@123newjersey33 жыл бұрын
@@meandmyinsanity Oh, my mistake
@kdbarot7903 жыл бұрын
Most people don't like this part of the Arc but give you background knowledge and sets up big plot points
@joserinda54183 жыл бұрын
Reading this arc weakly was ass because of the slow pacing, but Bones is doing an incredible job with the adaptation. Good pacing, animation on point and epics ost.
@taiwoade-onojobi82853 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the last season beauty pageant. It was when they went for internships with Uwabami in S2
@hungry_khid10073 жыл бұрын
It was only kendo attended
@taiwoade-onojobi82853 жыл бұрын
@@hungry_khid1007 Naa. They were both called up together. They did a photoshoot with her and were like her personal assistants.
@shadowfoxx43 жыл бұрын
Yea luppa was right then roshi incorrectly corrected him
@randyroberts8553 жыл бұрын
class b has some really underrated quirks bruh
@NarCissisT7893 жыл бұрын
Damn lupa looking sharp asf today bruh 👍🏾
@pwojo97763 жыл бұрын
This is a little detail, but I love how Mushroom Girl's eyes look like the tops of mushrooms, like the tops of a specific kind of mushroom, she's like a literal Princess Toadstool (I feel like when Hori was thinking of hero-names, that was like one of them, but obviously couldn't because of blatant copyright; her outfit even has like the super mushroom color scheme); also her power just has the potential to be really scary and overpowered, watching Dorohedoro after reading the My Hero manga made me realize that, she spreads her spores through the air, the mist guns she has increase humidity which helps them grow, imagine some start growing from your inside out, like some kind of Last of Us shit. Also, shadow-dude's hero-name is Vantablack; which I think had to get changed in the subs cause I think that's like a copyrighted term, cause you can still hear it in the spoken dialogue.
@ma.20893 жыл бұрын
Kinoko is a terrifying threat. And vantablack and the manga guy too. I feel like shadow and mushroom have quirks that are just downright destructive with such strong potential (a guy who can hide in any shadow!) and manga can almost will anything into existence so it’s so scary. And enough said about Kinoko.
@jakesemerdjian94993 жыл бұрын
Side note but the story surrounding the name “Vantablack” & it’s history w/ copyright is hilarious.
@rendezvousonmemorylane3 жыл бұрын
She's lowkey one of the strongest characters in the verse.
@julianr85443 жыл бұрын
Shihai would probably be snatching girls off the street at night if he was a villain like that split demon from demon slayer.
@thecoolercapybara77853 жыл бұрын
Bruh 😩 😂
@oimenamesrick3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that the split demon could also sink into darkness, hmmmm
@juivcyj40063 жыл бұрын
10:31 my man aoyama really just got snatched like a ps4 on black friday
@drakewilson6383 жыл бұрын
Nah like the PS5 ever day when they get in stock
@free29283 жыл бұрын
This episode all about the bird drip
@midnight49563 жыл бұрын
Aoyama getting snatched had me rolling in the manga and they did it Justice this episode.
@BeyondBlue223 жыл бұрын
"What is it with the yams on the screen?" ROSHI! Do NOT wish that shit away for me, man! Especially for Mina!
@AfroHayot3 жыл бұрын
ESPECIALLY MINA!
@Vonias3 жыл бұрын
Best girl best buns
@exessen16843 жыл бұрын
Mina best girl exactly
@shadowfoxx43 жыл бұрын
@@AfroHayot mina been thick, they been doing cake closeups since season 2
@guardian51753 жыл бұрын
I just noticed this but if you look at 2:55 my guy tries to smack (basically touch) shinzo so that he could steal his quirk
@jilvermazariegos3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit that's his quirk I completely forgot, this guy really is a douche LMAO
@Aeternus753 жыл бұрын
Bro imagine waking up hungry as a mushroom: M-my photosynthesis!
@hungry_khid10073 жыл бұрын
She isnt a mushroom its just a hat
@mr.sandman73393 жыл бұрын
More like looking for dead stuff to eat
@sancarlos43 жыл бұрын
Mushrooms don't do Photosynthesis though, they have no Chlorophyll
@keithanderson19803 жыл бұрын
My first thought with the mushrooms is all the different effects mushrooms can have (poisonous, hallucinogenic, brainwashing, healing, size and quantity, stamina boosting, plus some connect and communicate with other mushrooms creating a brain/network which can give and send info).
@shadowfoxx43 жыл бұрын
Yea she's probably top 4 in her class
@ace68973 жыл бұрын
i don't know why they changed his hero name and quirk name to "dark" in the subtitles. His name is Vantablack and his quirk is Black. It sounds SO much cooler than "Vantadark"
@pepsi-42753 жыл бұрын
Yeah they changed Mirio's "Phantom Menace" names too, just dumb copyright stuff.
@SolidSnake2403 жыл бұрын
@@pepsi-4275 yea the star wars references are one of my favorite things about mha
@jackofdiamonds73033 жыл бұрын
In the manga, Kuroiro’s quirk is Black
@SuguRakuNiShiteYaru3 жыл бұрын
Tokoyami: Dark Fallen Angel My expectations: *Oh he's gonna get some cool dark wings!* Reality: Tokoyami gets carried like a bride by dark shadow.
@raymund42083 жыл бұрын
"Why did u choose me?" "Hehe birb"
@ohheyitskmedia3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I actually mentioned this before, but don't forget, if it's a physical trait, they were likely born like that. So last time I said "Imagine being pregnant and the baby's got a whole-ass beak. C-section: required." But this time, for your consideration: Imagine being pregnant and your baby's head is literally just a sheet of paper. He comes out all soggy and wrinkled lmfao [Fun fact, I think Sheera was pregnant last time this came up too actually lmfao]
@michaeldean28773 жыл бұрын
One guy was born a pillow and whale lol
@justanotherguy81543 жыл бұрын
I love how the battle choreography has improved greatly from season 2, it seems much faster paced, as well as the movements are much more complex.
@killerwhale4293 жыл бұрын
12:43 I see that lupa is also developing future sight
@ksicks3 жыл бұрын
I like how they made hawks say why he wanted tokoyami in the manga better. Tokoyami: why did you pick me? Hawks: because were both birds
@dannyakins87423 жыл бұрын
You gotta love my boy The Chicken of Darkness himself Tokoyami
@ennuy33 жыл бұрын
Page guy boutta write a whole drama manga “why am i sad all the sudden”
@nolangerrans60833 жыл бұрын
The original name of kuroiro’s quirk is actually just “black”, which makes it even funnier. His hero name is also vantablack (which is one of the darkest known substances). Since vantablack is trademarked, my guess is that they likely changed the black in both to dark for the sub and dub, like how they called Mirio’s super move “Phantom Menace,” “Phantom Threat” in the subtitles and dub as well
@itsturniptime36993 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact, Tokoyami has teeth Secondary Fun Fact, Tokoyami’s favourite food is apples
@marcusbeasley32123 жыл бұрын
On today's episode of MHA, we present to you Tokoyami vs Black Sabbath.
@x0gucx3 жыл бұрын
5:00 I like the thought of "what should we do with invisible girl's costume? she can't wear anything besides translucent"... "We're gonna detail the f**k out of her gloves tho"
@mr.sandman73393 жыл бұрын
Does she wear anything? I'm pretty sure they confirmed that she has unfortunately been naked this whole time when someone asked if she was cold.
@DarkLord37093 жыл бұрын
BONES putting 3D to good use and it fits with the whole construction design of the area (pipes, metal, sharp angles, etc.)
@achmadyudakurniawan11013 жыл бұрын
soo...tokoyami and kuroiro rivalry is like tetsutetsu and kirishima but edgier
@vinegan64003 жыл бұрын
Fun trivia: Horikoshi originally draw Hawks half bird like Tokoyami, but his editor made him reconsider. The scenes we've seen now would have made much much more sense but obviously they make sense like this too
@MellyRedF7TheRealOne3 жыл бұрын
XD yo Aoyama screamed like R2D2! XD
@jasmine95813 жыл бұрын
12:42 oh I just remembered what Manga F. does oh _man_ "Here read this" aaa that would be funny
@chrisvelazquez2063 жыл бұрын
Aaah, what a delight to see. Some of my favorite characters from both classes are in this match and showing what they got, like Tokoyami did. Really looking forward to next episode.
@BradleyDS903 жыл бұрын
When Aoyama got snatched up and he screeched, I died laughing. Omg that was the best
@animusswtor48223 жыл бұрын
Lol Hawks used more feathers for the briefcase than the thug
@shanasakai22383 жыл бұрын
The animation made me mesmerized! I was glad to see Tokoyami fly it's so amazing!
@unkookole3 жыл бұрын
the shadow guy is a kidnapper in the making bro 😂😂
@HarpyLady3 жыл бұрын
AWW, SHEERA'S BELLY BUTTON! ☺☺ Great reaction btw!
@Kskillz23 жыл бұрын
Random
@HarpyLady3 жыл бұрын
@@Kskillz2 LOL I know I just thought it was cute
@dbzking023 жыл бұрын
Tokoyami is what happens when you let your pet parakeet marathon Yugioh and Jojo.
@TheYoungGeninSasuke3 жыл бұрын
I love Sherra's shirt. She is a woman with taste with the Shouto drip.
@brandontucker69583 жыл бұрын
I actually really loved this arc in the manga, I love it in the anime too so far but it's a different type
@slothking25893 жыл бұрын
Hawks: we're birds of a feather I love how you all looked like you hated the joke lmao
@KurNorock3 жыл бұрын
The people who's quirks change their physical appearance are born that way. The physical quirks don't just manifest one day like other quirks do.
@ProjectIceman3 жыл бұрын
Deku really gonna be a Sport's Announcer when he retires XD
@tofu_golem3 жыл бұрын
Monoma's power is to copy other people's powers, which is crazy useful in groups as he can dynamically alter the power make-up of a team. Kind of like Synch from the X-Men. Midnight is the ultimate cougar. It's it really a good idea to let her teach high school? Kendo is my favorite class B character.
@kylehunter38193 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Like the manga might’ve been a bit boring as a “re-tournament” arc of sorts and showing new powers but it was still always epic. And the anime does a great job adapting that into the show itself
@zannchristo3 жыл бұрын
They are compensating for last season's Mirio fight animation on this season
@MrSupedoSpade3 жыл бұрын
3:17 Honestly in their last fight it's shown that Bakugo is still above Deku in terms of straight battle. Deku has better strategy but Bakugo is literally the person he studied to become as adaptive in battle as he is. It's also shown multiple times that through his anger, Bakugo knows the proper decisions to make and (in the All Might fight with him tagging w/Deku) is willing to even sacrifice his pride for the proper win
@animusswtor48223 жыл бұрын
@xGungiManx Bakugo is a great example for the Quirk Singularity Theory that was brought up again a few episodes back. He got literally the best possible combination that could result out of his parents' quirks. His father can oxidize his sweat by rubbing his hands together and cause small explosions with nitric acid and his mother can sweat glycerin all over her body, which keeps her skin young. Bakugo takes elements of both quirks and can sweat nitroglycerin from his palms that can create powerful, multi-use explosions. And with how much experience and control he has over it, of course he'd be as powerful.
@animusswtor48223 жыл бұрын
@xGungiManx take also into consideration that Bakugo is more physically fit and trained practically his whole life while Deku just gained his muscles and quirk less than a year ago. And he really only matched the speed of like 8% of OFA in their last battle, that seems realistic enough, we don't know how he'd fair against this 20% Deku. If it is any consolation, without spoiling anything, if Bakugo fought current manga Deku he'd probably get clapped immediately without getting more than 2 words out.
@inertia85233 жыл бұрын
u guys upload so fast its literally unreal. also the intro is fire
@paulvizcarra32653 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is actually enjoyable that's why I cant for round 3. That's the only round where I seriously didn't know what the outcome would be
@MrTheFitt3 жыл бұрын
Kendo and Yaoyorozu worked together at their intership.
@thatguybrian-_-16443 жыл бұрын
Imagine being killed by a little girl who spawns mushrooms •__•
@thecoolercapybara77853 жыл бұрын
Her powers scare me.....
@ines04993 жыл бұрын
She can spawn mushrooms inside your throat, there is to be afraid
@ryanc36093 жыл бұрын
@@ines0499 damn it’s like a more kid friendly version of Risotto’s stand then
@shadowfoxx43 жыл бұрын
@@ryanc3609 metallica??
@ryanc36093 жыл бұрын
@@shadowfoxx4 yeah cause he can make scissors or something form in your throat
@kottadragon2 жыл бұрын
Aoyama with the fucking R2D2 scream.
@yshihootelle3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking how Tokoyami could just ride Dark Shadow like a hoverboard but this is much better
@spookyyenna3 ай бұрын
Aoyama with his R2-D2 Ass scream XD
@Immanuelm.83 жыл бұрын
Dark shadow's voice actor🤣I can't.
@jabbawookeez013 жыл бұрын
I agree with yaboy, I didn't hate this arc, I liked the abilities they showed, but I just wanted it to end ASAP, here I am loving how it's animated tho.
@Kladyos3 жыл бұрын
Kinoko: exists Kuroiro: 😍
@splinter3603 жыл бұрын
"That's some villain shit" lmao.
@HanaNoAi3 жыл бұрын
I knew y’all would loss it with Mr. Sparkles scream!
@TheSvmurai3 жыл бұрын
WORD. This was WAY better than the manga. I'm excited to see what they do.
@automemories30513 жыл бұрын
mushroom girl on her e-girl pose at the end
@davidyodo243 жыл бұрын
So Tokoyami never thought how to fly with Dark Shadow before? Even though he has a Bird Head. Lmao, this sounds silly to me 😆
@ravenblackwood58333 жыл бұрын
Mushroom girl has one of the most busted quirk in class B, behind copy.
@JuviaLockser123 жыл бұрын
When I first heard Aoyama scream I died laughing! 🤣
@jabezkenye9903 жыл бұрын
Have you guys tried To your Eternity? Just a suggestion if not .
@10yearslater_3 жыл бұрын
Lupa making fun of Manga guy is hilarious, can't wait till he sees his power lmfao
@Icsis7183 жыл бұрын
3:37 Mina "Bakery" Ashido
@shadowfoxx43 жыл бұрын
🍰🧁🎂
@El_doll3 жыл бұрын
The fights have been really fun, I think Kuroiro is pretty cool
@deanfernandes76043 жыл бұрын
I'm glad 1-B is getting their screen time
@o0Evo0o3 жыл бұрын
9:29 ONE WHOLE BIRD
@never_ending22203 жыл бұрын
No, both kendo and Momo were in the same hero training intern. Lupa was right the first time. They were also together in the beauty pageant.
@MightiiNinja3 жыл бұрын
Great reaction as always! Y’all need to watch Those Snow White Notes, it’s a different pace from most of the stuff you’ve watched, but it’s SO good!
@nyx91773 жыл бұрын
Hawks is such a good mentor, my god
@mr.sandman73393 жыл бұрын
"Revelry in the dark"
@muzansama5492 Жыл бұрын
Funny how Hawks calls tokoyami tsukoyami. That ltl shit doesn’t even remember his name