Opie and Anthony: Ant Is Cheating at Call of Duty? (11/15/2012)

[@psychicandice]

I used to go to school with people like Danny. That condescending dismissive laugh gets infuriating **real** quick

[@qxpxqx]

YES! What a fucking DOUCHEBAG!

[@DD-fs9xt]

If you mean as a minor, then you really could have just kicked their ass and gotten away with it!

[@robgarci289]

500$ a month from my 65 yr old roommate still isn't enough to compensate for that fucking laugh

[@cinemacynic980]

He was right though. Don't be mad cuz he's stylin on you.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

@@cinemacynic980 …and the cal is on me, and if you step up, I’ll… *_wham_*

[@paulthoresen8241]

I can see what Patrice meant about Danny thinking he was on a higher level than the est of the staff, the way he is talking to Ant is the way he would talk to Sal.

[@stevennoah1278]

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[@korbinjaziel5019]

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[@stevennoah1278]

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[@stevennoah1278]

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[@korbinjaziel5019]

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[@Grunklowe]

Danny is insufferable

[@johnffreydeppstein2474]

Danny has no idea how to insult somebody in a funny manner I don't think I've ever laughed from him before

[@ballsdeep2520]

Agreed, I couldn't turn this off fast enough, F Danny

[@souldry]

@@ballsdeep2520 He shit

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Danny smells

[@_..-.._..-.._]

If Danny says “priphreals” one more time I will find out which bar he’s mopping floors in and tell him he’s less than perfect at words.

[@darthyvardyreal]

Danny reminds me of that one guy who gets shaky when he's mad, but tries to hide it with low grade "snarky-ness" or sarcasm.

[@randommanwill802]

I love how the end of Danny and Ant is so obvious here.

[@thecrowseye5384]

Sounds like Anthony started kicking Danny's ass at the Game and now he's mad..

[@ispittruthchannel5317]

I thought the same thing

[@RanThaMan]

Opie doesn’t know video games and controllers, but he’s got it all figured out that it’s an age thing

[@mattnj211]

"no one wants to spend 100 dollars to play a videogame." if only...

[@SUPPORTYOURSELF]

"I'm not prepared for this argument but i'm going to argue anyway" Danny sucks.

[@jonathancarpenter399]

every time Danny says "peripherYals" i cringe.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

I said the exact same thing. He kept saying prifreals 😂

[@FangXL]

17:19 danny completely loses his point. There are controllers with mods like rapid fire, 180 flip, and many other cheatsy doodle mods that are far more unfair than using a keyboard and mouse.

[@Crueltea]

I am a console gamer, and I grew up using a controller. If I had to play Xbox or PS4 with a keyboard and mouse, I would be horrible at it, because I don't know how to use it effectively. Anthony's keyboard and mouse allows him to adapt to being able to play the game with his friends. It's not an advantage, it's an equalizer, because the controller puts him at a disadvantage. He's not going to be better than his friends, he's going to be just as good and have an actual fighting chance.

[@metalmayhem3622]

I'm 34. I started my gaming career on consoles 28 years ago. I've spent a lot of time doing both PC and consoles. I'm going to disagree with you. It's a known fact that mouse and keyboard is better for first person shooters. A mouse is much easier to control, and much more precise than a stick is. For example, I have gta 5 on ps4 and pc. On PC, I can easily take out two guards on a stealth mission, before the alert goes off. I can't do it on ps4. I fly and drive with an xbox controller on PC. It's too hard to do with M&K. You have to actually keep sliding your mouse forward to keep a helicopters nose down. Or, you just push the stick forward. Also, Imagine playing a game like Spider-Man from ps4 on the PC with a M&K. That would be hard as hell. So, lets say Spider-Man had a competitive multiplayer. Everyone was playing it with M&K, and you came in with a controller. You would destroy them. Certain games play better with certain inputs.

[@randy7879]

@@metalmayhem3622 Of course an optical mouse is superior its digital its the more advanced technology. Even when the mouse use a ball it was superior. Analog joysticks are just pure crap when it comes to first person shooters... Maybe they were good for side scrolling Street Fighter type games, but for the new age of fully 3 dimensional worlds the keyboard and mouse is just better.

[@metalmayhem3622]

@@randy7879 I don't think it has anything to do with being more advanced technology. A lot of games play smoother with a controller. Just not FPS.

[@randy7879]

@@metalmayhem3622 Ya i just meant in general joysticks have been around a very long time since WW1 airplanes and the first claw grab arcade machines, the mouse and track ball appeared much later in the game. Im roughly your same age mid 30s came from consoles PC the DOOM Unreal days and i agree i love the D-pad/joysticks for fighting games, side scrollers, top downs, flight sims. But FPS games with 2 joysticks feels about as intuitive to me as a racing game with a track ball. FPS games are all about cutting down those reaction times (arguably true for all games) but especially this genre and where these controller vs mouse guys suffer. Coming from the PC world im sure ur aware with WSDA the second u push any of those buttons u are instantly travelling in that direction at top speed which remains constant, till u stop or hit something. This constant becomes a huge benefit when moving and shooting as u have 1 less variable to worry about and that constant has become ingrained in your memory as the other guy using a D pad is constantly fumbling with his left thumb trying to match his movement speed with his aim. I think its pretty clear manufacturers accept the fact the mouse is superior since they have implemented auto aim on nearly every shooter, and until consoles started doing this auto aim was virtually unheard of on any PC shooter.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

What about unplugging the console when you’re losing at Guitar Zero? Does Danny agree with that? What about cord-puller Ant?

[@PFiction24]

Ant's only a cheater when an under-age Canadian is in his gun closet.

[@FlanzShirt]

5:56 Danny throws up in his mouth

[@barbieken1262]

Danny is a walking pile of vomit.

[@FaceFacie]

And now we have cross play because people were sick of not being able to play with friends.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

The priests have been doing that for centuries. 😂

[@sleazypmartini3728]

Did anyone else think that last part of the video was a continuation of Danny’s hissy fit?

[@backforblood3421]

That piece of s hit in the audio at the end explains a lot of what's happening now, over 11 years later.

[@misstrKevin]

I remember when I heard this I was shocked at how comfortable Danny was talking to ant like that and how ant just bitched out.

[@JasonX2]

Had to turn it off, I can't tolerate that much Danny

[@dorpth]

Uhh...nobody else used a mouse and keyboard for FPS games until Quake in 1996. Nobody used a controller for one until Goldeneye in 1997. Is Any saying that nobody born before 1980 is capable of using a controller and that keyboard+mouse is an old man thing?

[@borrisg4972]

People used mouse+keyboard for DooM. People used controllers for Wolf3d. Both were considered the best option for each game

[@Molelyfe]

I'm just suprised ant let danny talk to him like this lol he got really personal at times.

[@ThePadren]

The way Danny argues is so infuriating too. He can't just make his own points, he has to sprinkle in personal attacks and name calling which makes his somewhat valid points seem a lot weaker then they are.

[@Molelyfe]

Bruce Wayne Exactly. And it's in all the clips of him arguing with everyone. He's just difficult and unlikeable. Took Ant a while to realize but to the listeners it was very clear. Argued with Patrice, Troy, Ant, Kenny, Erock, Blind Stevie, Steve C.... Etc.

[@-Twotonepony-]

@@Molelyfe Yeah, Danny is just Opie if Opie wasn't in charge. Always has a weak arguement. People fight with Danny because he's not their boss. It would be the same shit if Opie was in Danny's shoes.

[@schnarfschnarf5886]

Doesn't Danny work at compound media.. He used to at least I think

[@TalkingThrones]

@@schnarfschnarf5886 No. Never.

[@House2017]

I don't see how Anthony is wrong. I'd love him to try Xim Edge with Dark Souls. :p

[@metalmayhem3622]

You do see why he's wrong. If everyone were playing Dark Souls with mouse and keyboard, and someone came in using a controller, that person would have an advantage.

[@DD-fs9xt]

Dark Soles? What, are they wearin dress shoes or sumfin?

[@timothycarr5707]

@@DD-fs9xt fuckin homerun chippasin, take us tah break Erock

[@zgSH4DOW]

By his fucking metric, everyone needs the same TV/settings, no glasses, same weapons, same controller color... FOR CASUAL GAMEPLAY

[@guitarsANDcars39]

Mouse/keyboard is difficult as well.

[@Tsadi9Mem9Khet9]

BTW, is this the major factor in the falling out between these two?

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Nah, Nana was seeing other boys

[@FangXL]

The disadvantage with the controller is the aiming while the disadvantage of the keyboard is movement

[@metalmayhem3622]

This is one of the first fair comments I've seen.

[@DD-fs9xt]

Mouse & Keyboard vs Controllers is now the standard in Call Of Duty because of cross play, guess Danny thinks every PC player is a cheater now

[@DD-fs9xt]

@@billybatts9491 You absolutely have a shot. You have aim assist mate

[@DD-fs9xt]

@@billybatts9491 "you guys"? I'm just one guy. & No Mouse and Keyboard doesn't have aim assist

[@DD-fs9xt]

@@billybatts9491 A lot of people say it because it's true. With aim assist, you absolutely have a shot against keyboard and mouse. That's all I'm saying lmfao. & I use both depending on which game.

[@DD-fs9xt]

@DudeBroman He must have seen the new aim assist in MW2 that basically plays the game for you

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Billy Batts was trying to break your balls a little bit and you were gettin effin fresh.

[@THEDC777]

Danny is such a baby & so confrontational about this. I wonder why he got fired & Ant stopped hanging with him?

[@morganmcmahon9396]

Danny the hall monitor

[@vegastjg]

"Patrice won't get to play the new Call of Duty, dude" Bob Kelly

[@starvinmarvinoff6045]

Bru It don’t matter wht controller u use

[@X_CHILLer_X]

I have beaten so many people with my controller and they have mouse and key board. Makes no difference in gameplay.

[@matthewblunderbuss4545]

Here we are with cross platform, I'm getting wrecked sometimes by xbox users while on pc.

[@chesterbesterfeild]

Dont care. Should be allowed to use any input device. Current systems have custom controllers

[@painplayer1614]

Very true but he shouldnt be acting like hot shit because hes magically better by using another gaming platforms controller system that he is proficient with to gain the upper hand which in a multiplayer game is considered unfair instead of becoming skilled with the intended controller thats all the argument is. Hes pwning people while playing like a noob. And bragging about it

[@randy7879]

@J G Exactly what i was thinking, this just goes to show u how dog shit analog joysticks are for controlling a first person shooter vs a digital optical mouse

[@techmiter6299]

@@painplayer1614 Bullshit. People switch over from console to PC and use controllers all the time and you best believe the key/mouse people don't whine about it, even when most games offer controller players extra aim assist, or even adds aim assist in games that don't have ANY aim assist.

[@painplayer1614]

@@techmiter6299 i agree completely lol

[@TheTrueRman]

So according to Danny, Proffesional Smash Players shouldn't be using Gamecube styled controllers cause you have to buy that seperately

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Professional

[@downtownclownfrown]

Hey Danny... it's per-if-err-ull

[@ianipoo]

downtownclownfrown how did Jimmy let that one slide

[@paulthoresen8241]

Danny learned English at Hogwarts

[@edgarhero6082]

I wish i could time travel and let them know that in the 2020 call of duty is cross plataform...xbox ps4 and pc playing together

[@WittyOriginalUsername]

When will they stop cross platform gaming? Its never gonna work out well. Remember that game from years ago, Shadowrun I think? It tried that and failed miserably because PC players dominated

[@ianipoo]

Horseshit. Using superior controllers is up to the player. if you pay more for a better controller that's your decision that's not cheating. manually entering in cheat codes or hacking the system is cheating. spending more money on a better controller is not cheating.

[@fredrickmiller6534]

He's using keyboard and mouse, not a controller. He's cheating.

[@fredrickmiller6534]

@J G I'm not looking up anything because someone who doesn't know the difference between your and you're said I'm wrong.

[@DD-fs9xt]

@@fredrickmiller6534 You are wrong. Mouse & keyboards are used to control the PC and play games, so they = a type of controller

[@c0m4g1bb]

Danny is the type of person who would be on bullyhunters for zombii unicorn

[@_..-.._..-.._]

I don’t what any of those words mean. But Danny stinks.

[@d0ysh464]

I would have never guessed O&A discussed the XIM at some point, lol. Danny's argument that if it doesn't come with the Xbox it's cheating is bullshit. The Xbox doesn't come with an arcade stick or racing wheel either.

[@jaderunner1377]

True, but Anthony's defense that he's simply _used to_ keyboard & mouse so it's fair to use them on any platform is just as bullshit - if that's really all there was to it he would just play it on PC. Instead, he's using XIM to use mouse & keyboard on a platform where he knows 99.99% of players he encounters online will be using controllers - that's what makes it underhanded. Still, I use a CronusMax, so I'm not getting on my high horse about it...

[@_..-.._..-.._]

They were breaking up at this point

[@andrewbrookes7025]

Ant is right. You can spend more money to have an advantage in the game but that isn't cheating. Some people play on a shitty TV and some play on 4K HDTV's.

[@CallousCarter]

Shitty old TVs are generally better for gaming than expensive ones...

[@_..-.._..-.._]

@@CallousCarterstop with that contrarian BS. Only Gen Z kiddies and boomers think old stuff is better. I was there, it stunk!

[@-HustleUnion-]

its not cheating its an adapter to use a keyboard and mouse on a xbox. i do the same with a PC i use the xbox controller with a bluetooth adapter.

[@KalosPVP]

When everyone else is using controllers, it's definitely cheating.

[@bruderheiming]

Microsoft had planned to host multiplayer for Xbox and PC games on the same Microsoft LIVE network. Plans were cancelled after play-testing showed that PC players won virtually every match versus console opponents.

[@phanatic215]

Trevor Teslia they are testing keyboard and mouse support for x1. I love this Battlefield 1, but damn is it hard with the controller. I used to be decent in fps with controllers, but this is the first fps I've played since halo 3.

[@bruderheiming]

phanatic215 I started on pc, got good at fps on console when MW2 was new but mouse and keys are just the tits

[@pyxelated2468]

phanatic215 well, bf1 is hard because its hard. fps is fps if u ask me. it comes down to skill. and i also was great at halo 3 (so fucking fun) but fps games have changed a lot since that game came out. just my 2 cents.

[@Justen1980]

You need to mess with the settings and fine tune the controls to your reflexes so you'll aim where you want instinctually. Also try turning off "aim acceleration" it really messes with your aim if you're not used to it

[@willmiller9981]

song at beginning?

[@shutupstupid5630]

Green Day - Holiday

[@hehateme1717]

Danny was right..mouse and keyboard is a huge advantage ..

[@ACinthemaking]

In a game like call of duty not really. Controllers have aim assist.

[@OhHesCracked]

@@ACinthemaking Lmfao you’re crazy dude I’m a Pc player it’s 200% an advantage. The auto aim isn’t that good on consoles. People that make the auto aim excuse are just bots

[@ACinthemaking]

@@OhHesCracked depends on how you play. If you utilize the aim assist by staying midrange you will hit more shots easier than someone on mouse and keyboard will. It depends on your play style.

[@thefirmament1616]

ant is the kid riding a scooter with a helmet at the skatepark

[@yittmashups]

Liked for The Wizard Ant poster.

[@frankpeters604]

it took me a long time got get used to controller now i cant play with keyboard

[@seattleseahawk89]

2 kills and 52 deaths. HAHAHA!

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Haha

[@TUNA_FOOL_]

MIKE?!

[@sirspanky3]

I went into this agreeing with Danny, and left hating him and agreeing with Ant

[@jtfanizzi]

This perfectly summarizes my experience with this clip.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Even when Danny is right, I will go against him because he’s so unlikable. He was technically right arguing with Patrice, but he should’ve just let him ruin the computer, Patrice was talent and shouldn’t get back talk from a nobody like Danny

[@tedcrilly46]

The Ximmer-frame.

[@aramach1335]

Richard! I can't even keep up at this point!

[@jacobegleston9806]

This is actually a good character study of Ant . He downplays and justifies an obvious HUGE advantage for something as inconsequential as a video game. Using a mouse is way easier and faster than using the sticks . But bc he’s Ant , in his mind he’s entitled to having an advantage . Then has the gall to shit on ppl who don’t have the same advantage as him 😂

[@matturner6890]

If you're dumb enough to play a shooter with a controller you deserve to get steamrolled by someone with a mouse & kb. I would've paid money to watch Ant destroying everybody and the resulting nerd rage.

[@natetracey1346]

So funny that now lobbies fill up with console and PC players together

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Is it?

[@Yomammi84]

Maaaaahhhh.. MEATLOAF!!! ..... 😁 i never know what she’s doing!? ....UR COMIN WITH!!

[@joshgard205]

Is it weird I still instantaneously knew exactly what this was verbatim

[@CoryW-h3q]

Wedding crashers

[@EdertheJust]

It's not allowed to use this so all the Ant ball riders, you're wrong.

[@sldsnak4]

When I play street fighter I use an arcade stick.

[@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318]

If its not against the rules to use mouse and keyboard it isnt cheating. It is a huge advantage and bullshit in my opinion but rules are rules, ya feel me dog? Its like people getting mad over noobtube in MW2. Its bullshit, but its totally fair

[@43Aquaman]

16:14. He's absolutely right about the differences in peoples PC's.

[@techmiter6299]

No, he's not. That's the kind of BS people who are bad at PvP games would say. My PC is 3 years old and gets half the FPS most others do and I still do quite well.

[@43Aquaman]

@@techmiter6299 Mine is 7. Trust me. It matters.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

@@43Aquamanwell of course your ancient one won’t be as good, but there’s a limit where is doesn’t matter.

[@ticket67]

9:33 :)

[@blkplaguelmc]

Danny is so goddamn unbearable

[@spikespiegel2246]

the radio bumpers are so annoying

[@FuttBuckerson87]

jesus this point makes zero sense. ever watch championship gaming? ppl use their preference to control. Its not 1996 anymore. everything is universal now. pick your controls of choice.

[@Tsadi9Mem9Khet9]

"Morally okay", Danny? You're talking about someone who considers it "morally okay" to have children killed in the womb, and to treat children like they're a different and invasive species overall.

[@robgarci289]

That kids gonna have a fuckn harem like a god damn walrus

[@platinumpatience5307]

6:26 chip

[@backforblood3421]

Black Ops 2 was a stupid-looking game anyway. They shaded the textures and then also had the in-engine lighting producing actual shadows, and it made things look like wet clay.

[@fernandohood5657]

i never got used to analog sticks, last controller i used was during ps1 times, the few times i tried a modern controller i cant do anything with it , totally get Ant.

[@TigerDriver66]

I fucking hate it when Danny is right.

[@handoffbarry]

Using a keyboard and mouse is an obvious advantage. Danny is correct. I don't think there's an argument being made that a controller is "superior," so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. The argument that Danny fails to make is that you are never going to be as precise with a dual stick set up as you are with a mouse where you can just click on an enemies head to shoot them.

[@handoffbarry]

He's also not factoring in input lag. That being said, there is a clear advantage to using a mouse/keyboard for shooters. They should be banned for MP console gaming in my opinion.

[@lane1ify]

The Tiger Driver controllers have auto aim and keyboard doesn't. the keyboard is more precise but it's an even trade.

[@lithium23]

Danny was right but how much he cares about it is annoying considering he doesn't even own the game.

[@lithium23]

not to mention console gaming, like pc, is highly variable on Internet connection speeds and who is host more than the kind of pc u have

[@buckweevil]

Multiplayer shooters aren't fun anyway.

[@-BeFree-]

Busted 😂

[@Tsadi9Mem9Khet9]

Black Ops 2 is just a stupid looking game, and now that I've begun doing 3D modeling, I know EXACTLY why. It's because of the shading that they did on the textures which didn't belong there. It made everything look like wet clay. Shading of textures I would venture to say is almost always totally unnecessary, because the engine, program, whatever will create the shading by way of the lighting.

[@schnarfschnarf5886]

It's awesome. Black ops 1&2 are classics. Looks fine

[@erockisfat]

I loved the wet clay

[@backforblood3421]

@@schnarfschnarf5886 G F Y

[@backforblood3421]

@@erockisfat You G F Y too

[@Kevin-tw4uw]

your channel is my Bible you Richard are my lord and Savior

[@platinumpatience5307]

I fucking love Anthony Cumia, but I just lost a little respect for him having a mouse & keyboard on console.

[@phanatic215]

That final clip has to be fake. My mom would have thrown me out of the window if I spoke to her like that.

[@stevepirate3222]

Using a keyboard is like using steroids in baseball. It doesn't make you a better player , it just elevates your talent. You still gotta practice

[@RancorousC]

There's no argument, keyboard and mouse is objectively better it gives you an insane advantage to use on on an xbox.

[@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318]

But the question is is it cheating

[@AltCTRLF8]

Chipperson's Encyclopedia Emporium it should be controller vs controller or keyboard vs keyboard only

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Why separate them? If someone uses an inferior controller, that’s their fault.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

@@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318 the encyclopedia emporium is owned by Sheckler

[@beliVolidisko]

Danny is an intern version of Opie

[@oneskinnyhonky]

Danny's a great employee until he starts talking.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Nah, even mute he’s not good at anything

[@daleva187goligo]

wait a minute, wait a minute, ant said he grew up playing the pc? didn't he say he grew up poor? could barely afford food, yet he was playing computer games? OK... only rich kids had pcs back in those days, either he's full of shit, or he's talking about later on in his life when he had money

[@Jammsbro1]

AlUsing a mouse and keyboard makes games so much easier. This is why pc players are far less skilled than console players. Playing a shooter with a mouse makes every player into a fucking terminator instantly. Take a pc player and give him a controller, and watch just how shit this "pc master race" player becomes.

[@mauriceh7558]

LOL are you this dumb for real or just a poor excuses for a troll? with a mouse being far more accurate than any controller will ever be there is no need for guided aim wich is normal in console games aiming with controller is designed for console and consoles are aimed at younger audiences with lower purchase prices than decent pc's it makes for great christmass/birthday presents

[@matturner6890]

yeah ok. Go drop into a game of UT2004 or any CS game and then tell me you're an "instant terminator".

[@MyNameIsntRyan]

Troy is such a dope

[@fredrickmiller6534]

I play against keyboard Genjis on Xbox one and I don't consider it cheating.. they're losers but it's not cheating lol

[@mauriceh7558]

theyre losers, sounds butthurt lil bro

[@OhHesCracked]

Of corse he cheats

[@jaderunner1377]

Hate to get all boring, but just want to point out that the caller who said Danny was being a Communist for his stance didn't know what he was talking about. Communism is 'equality of outcome', the opposite of 'equality of opportunity' - Anthony is actually the one behaving in a "Communist" manner here because he's giving himself an advantage the other Xbox players don't have in order to "equalize" his apparent skill with theirs. Danny is saying everyone should be using the same hardware so the only differentials in the outcome are due purely to the skill of individual players - this is 'equality of opportunity', the opposite of Communism, which would have everyone using different hardware, as well as other restraints/aids, in order for every player to have the same amount of wins and losses. You've no idea how sick I feel at having to defend Danny Ross.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

That was terribly boring. 100% right though.

[@edgarsmoonrocks1562]

Xbox has made efforts to prevent people from using keyboards in games. A lot of games like PUBG consider it banable

[@dustinethridge7084]

The only real difference between controller & mouse w/ keyboard is preference. I have no trouble with either, because I grew up using both. Id go from playing unreal tournament on ps2, splitscreen with my friends & later be playing counter-strike & team fortress classic multiplayer on my shitty old Hewlett Packard & never miss a beat. mouse and key are awesome for fps games & games with varied & complex controls. You suck with a controller? Play more, you will get the hang of it.

[@AltCTRLF8]

what if the game changes from a shooter to something like street fighter? you still wanna play street fighter with a keyboard vs a controller? lol

[@randomconsumer4494]

There is a reason PvP FPS games are never cross platformed with PC. In fact, you can look back at games that did end up going cross platform. Those games are DEAD.

[@randomconsumer4494]

@@billybatts9491 is it? Until the next watered down flavor of CoD comes out. Also, I was kinda wrong. Here it is a year later and almost all of the games have gone cross-platform.

[@cinemacynic980]

It is cheating if you are using any equipment that the Game was not Specifically Ported for. And it actually is against the TOS for Treyarch (The company who made Black Ops 2) to use such Equipment. Video Games aren't like they used to be, no one owns any video games now, all of the Companies make Customers and Users sign an Agreement that says that The Company still owns your game, and can disable their Product at Anytime, making the game Un-useable for the Customer. Take Two (2K) is famous for this.

[@cinemacynic980]

Also the Caller - Jim From New York is 100% Correct.

[@cinemacynic980]

Another point, why is Ant complaining about having to pull a trigger?

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Who cares? Are you 12? Gaming culture stinks.

[@williamlennox9115]

I refuse to use the mouse, and keyboard in consoles, because I'm not a cheater. You're a cheater if you do. The Xbox doesn't come with a mouse & keyboard. It's stock setup - is a controller. That's it. I played both console, and PC. The mouse, and keyboard is extreme over advantage. It's almost like auto aim if you're skilled. I took the time necessary to get good with a controller. Cheaters - people who mouse and keyboard go below the player who is last place without it, and they're delusional if they think they're doing good.

[@_..-.._..-.._]

Your hobbies don’t matter. What a waste games are.

[@WHISKEY3XRAY]

@@_..-.._..-.._ Nothing matters. None of this matters.

[@Gummmydrop]

Totally a cheater.

[@Dinco422]

Lane... don't listen to that idiot... he clearly doesn't know how a console aim works... controllers are SHIT

[@painplayer1614]

he shouldnt be acting like hot shit because hes magically better by using another gaming platforms controller system that he is proficient with to gain the upper hand which in a multiplayer game is considered unfair instead of becoming skilled with the intended controller thats all the argument is. Hes pwning people while playing like a noob. And bragging about it. Its a gray area but the sexond you cross the line and brag. Thats a problem. Its like if a boxer kicks a boxer in the balls. And wins the fight. Then brags how he beat his opponent. Its bullshit. Ant. Play the way u want but dont talk shit lol

[@hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh6898]

The point here is that Ant is a pleb. COD? What a peasant.

[@sambbk7203]

Nope it's cheating. EDIT: and i think gran turismo used to display when people were using wheels. I barely remember this because i was drunk and used to own people on deep forest with a yellow bird against people using wheels. Then i got slightly hard.

[@tedcrilly46]

Cheaters never win. They pseudo-win. They can't have the real thing.