OPTIC SCUMP RETIRES! | IS CALL OF DUTY DEAD? | THE FLANK

[@noshio7391]

It’s sad but on the bright side I bet he starts pumping out some killer content. I was sad when Woomaa retired but look at him now

[@Kspat2]

The sub train scump is about to have will be nuts.

[@FPSBloodlust]

LOOK AT TOMMY GO

[@Maximum_37]

Facts was just looking at toms retirement announcement and man look at him now carrying the cod competitive scene

[@kylemackay5435]

Left it too late

[@Foggycallabasashillshelicopter]

Content scump is king. I don’t blame him either his last few years in the cdl were trash and his team was a high school drama team

[@Minokuka]

Scumpii is the reason why i started watching cod videos n tournaments. Faze vs Optic on his 18th birthday. I was 14 when I first watched him, I'm now 24. It's a sad day but, I'm happy to see him finally do what he wants with content. He'll still be around the community, which is good. Have a good rest king💯☝🏽

[@user-bi2wn4vn3b]

Damn this really sucks :( scump really was my introduction into the scene ,the sweatbanning 77-0 blew my mind when I was 10 and ever since I’ve looked up to him . Fr what a day

[@sherblato9147]

88-0😅

[@kartipee]

i remember watching that when i was a .2kd shitter and thinking.. holy fuck how is this possible. he inspired me to get better

[@jackbilotto4698]

My favourite was his 70 series on BO3 pubs

[@rissky.]

Yea same, ngl tho Aches is fkn comedy my guy really is an older version of Scrap 😂

[@user-bi2wn4vn3b]

@@rissky. I love aches , cod wouldn’t be the same without mclovin

[@PJay-mw2kk]

I love Aches but this man can’t go a second without making it about himself as soon as he starts talking 😂

[@Kspat2]

I enjoy his trolling for the most part but it gets old lol

[@zucxys]

Nah there was a part where I was like “and this is why you would’ve been forgotten if it weren’t for zoomaa” lol

[@lukewestwest]

Yeah everyone think he trolling but Im starting to think Pat’s ego is actually on some Mike Tyson Prime Years shit lol

[@edwinmagana10]

@@lukewestwest nah bro his Ego is fr up there. End of the day its how he gets his clicks. Cant blame him when that prolly gets the most impressions

[@edwinmagana10]

Nah tbh though he’s valid, aches and teep put him on, it wasn’t rambo.

[@blakeleonard3990]

This group of 4 works so well together, straight comedy on every show

[@chrisness119]

Man I think I can speak for everyone when I say Scump has been a huge part of why we all love cod so much. Sad to see him go but happy for him being able to pursue the next chapter of his life. Seth fr the goat

[@sherblato9147]

💯 Scumpii 👑

[@robertmitchell5861]

This is why doing what you guys do is so important you keep the fans engaged and wanting to keep watching cld thank you boys for the great content and work! Long live the king 👑

[@user-vf4oh1pd9t]

Man, the real contradictory information was "I'm not fast like that anymore". As if anyone doubted Seths talent this year. Guy played unbelievable. He played 1 series as a Flex and immediately looked like a T3 Flex in the game, popping pieces with the Vaz like he never aged a second from his BO2 days. Love seeing Aches and Parasite showing love after all they've been through together, and great to see both have fun with it. Anyone mad at Aches here doesn't know him, he's a clown personality-wise and Scump is a similar way. I'm sure he laughed listening to pulling up receipts of half a decade old tweets etc. What an incredible career he's had. I hope to see him on as a guest here more often given that he actually has the time now. Also, protect Grayster at all costs.

[@WobblyRooster]

Leave it to aches to make scump retiring about him.

[@darcyrovere8855]

I’d love to see Seth in a watch party on the flank, reviewing the matches and reacting with you guys

[@tvnefarious9968]

would only happen if aches the OpTic hater wasn't on probably

[@dmontae13]

Nah let Seth come on with Aches. Aches trolly ass with Seth’s nonchalant humor would have me crying 😂😂

[@thannydevitos2332]

@@tvnefarious9968 honestly don’t think Seth and aches would have a problem. Let’s not forget Nade was the one with huge beers with Pat

[@rissky.]

@@dmontae13 Abner & Slaya duo would be unmatched 😏😭

[@september23rd923]

What makes mj the goat is influence. At the end of the day, cod is a team game. Great players have been costed, and mediocre players have grand finals because they got carried. The only clear cut definitive stat you could use is influence. Mike changed the world. So did scump

[@1stKills]

Facts

[@TheeAaron]

6-0

[@SirJorge.]

Goat should be that and the best player and that's scump. Everyone agrees in terms of skill prime scump is at the top. Crim isn't even top 5, idk how a guy who never had the most kills or highest kd in any of the 3 ring teams can be the goat when he got carried

[@zainb2261]

Well put. If only Seth had a sneaker deal. I’d be grabbing those

[@royalty4958]

@@SirJorge.had the highest kd in ghost with a 1.36

[@mike_deity]

The hand of the King made sure to let the King get that 7 piece in that hardpoint and got a clip from it. The hand of the King made sure he let the King retire with fashion

[@SirJorge.]

The Heir of the king pred made sure scump got a nasty 4 piece on him and Seattle in vanguard

[@tobiasketteringham7201]

@@SirJorge. pred the heir? Nah I’m pretty sure that’s shottzy

[@OhAndron]

Ben's closing statement after he sinks the putt ahahahaha these dudes are hella entertaining 😂

[@danielmartin6065]

The only reason I’d say scump is the goat over crim is because of how unbelievably consistent the guy was over the years. It’s close, but definitely more consistent than crim. And the reason rings don’t matter as much to me is because it takes an entire team to win a championship and there’s more variables. Looking more at individual play scump is the clear cut goat imo.

[@AliFrankTheTank]

Aches was talkin bout Lebron and said he uh have most grand final appearances 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Range_45]

Dude really has no knowledge on the topic of basketball lol, hypothetically he has a conversation one on one with ANYONE on let’s say a retired NBA team or a show on ESPN he wouldn’t be taken seriously or he would get laughed off the set

[@JBiddle25]

Yo @aches has to be the most fugaze dude in the entire world. Crim is the goat because of achievements and accolades, okay ill give you that if that's how you determine personally who is the goat and who isn't. But then you follow that up with Lebron is the goat in NBA because of stats. DUDE! Talk about contradicting yourself my guy. Pat is killing this podcast with his takes on shit, just never makes any sense or again contradicts himself thirty seconds after he speaks.

[@Ihatesports420]

I love aches but facts it makes no sense.

[@GoldenBoy-sq6yl]

Crim is the goat idk y its so hard to understand that lol i get the impact scump has had on cod but were talking about competitively (scump also didnt win shi without crim soooo)

[@JBiddle25]

@@GoldenBoy-sq6yl idk think anybody is saying crim isn’t in here. The entire point was about him always contradicting himself, him being aches. Easy on the crim shit buddy 😆

[@asapBreeZy]

When people talk about the GOAT, Why is quality of teammate never brought up? Or the fact that he was basically on ONE org? Or what about the fact that he was being the face/biggest content creator BY FAR while doing all of his winning/achievements? Crim didn’t have close to the amount on his plate that Scump did. Period. But that’s never mentioned. Crim could basically focus all of his time on one thing while Scump Juggled EVERYTHING and was still dominant. It’s clear for me. But hey, I’m just an OpTic D rider.

[@lukewestwest]

So Scump played cod competitively for over a decade… Then He plays couple matches as an AR and instantly retires 😂🤣. But fr tho Long Live The King!

[@TheQuickyouknow]

Now that Dashy is back on the team, it's possible he gets dropped for the 3rd time after the season for Sib.

[@humzy765]

That could definitely be a possibility - I guess it’s up to him to make himself become undropable - Time will tell !

[@rissky.]

Pred, Shotzzy, Sib, Dashy

[@dmontae13]

When Aches brought out the ratings I’m like “Is this Madden or am I faded” 😂😂😂

[@chriscos1220]

Fucking Aches killed me this episode man like Jesus Christ. I get it it's normally, (not funny) "funny" in many people opinion but come on dude if there was one episode to turn it off, this was the one lol.

[@caro4789]

Soft af go cry

[@chriscos1220]

@@caro4789 I've cried enough today. He's fucking annoying lol.

[@zucxys]

I fw aches but he sounded like a weirdo trying to make everything about himself😹 he killed the vibe forsure

[@chriscos1220]

@@zucxys yeah I fw aches too I was just hoping we could get a reverse sweep aches instead lol

[@zucxys]

@@chriscos1220 reverse sweep aches is great, he really gets too into playing his character on the flank sometimes. if you didn’t know who aches was you’d be like “who the fuck is this loser and what did scump do to hurt him” 😹😹

[@hyfytrippin448]

I remember getting off school and watching him going live on MW3 pub stomping. Also watching Friday night fights when clayster was on obey v.s. bigtymer, merk on optic. Man time flys. I wish him well though!

[@TreyalexanderIII]

Illey visa issues, having to drive downtown everyday for practice, and the Dashy drama. It’s hard to see that coming but it’s been three years in a row he has t had just a regular season. Last year illeys thumb, Coldwar Envoy and Seth with Covid going into World Champs.

[@DreammakerDev]

This was bittersweet but I’m happy for his future always will have love for him as he’s a main reason I fell in love with competitive cod . Cheers on a fantastic career 🥂💚

[@foxtrot426]

It was an incredible career, looks like he's got an incredible future lined up for himself too.. streaming/ content, his marriage/ eventual family and financial security that his incredible career gave him.

[@Tee.NZ.07]

Cannot ignore the viewership and impact on CoD Scump has had. That reason alone gives him god goat status.

[@violentguilt7930]

This is way out of left field but I remember watching scump videos and seeing dark souls 3 and bloodborne in the game line up on his ps4 and I never saw a souls video posted once. I for one would kill to watch Seth play the souls series.

[@sotothecreator]

Clayster the last man standing

[@vtruee2948]

Not an optic fan or Scump fan but I put respect where it is due GGs GOAT

[@cpolonium1121]

That OpTic roster is stacked but it’s gotta be awkward lmao Dashy was bashing on Rambo for a week and now he’s back?

[@kenethernandez6246]

My thoughts exacrly

[@KerzyMonkey]

Would love to see Scump as a guest on the flank for sure!

[@AyoShaba]

Aches is a prime hater, born n raised, dedicated to his craft. Couldn't even let the DAY OF Scumps announcement pass without him attempting to tarnish his legacy by establishing that Crim is goat. Brother, no one cares on a day like today, is the discussion valid? of course, but there's a time and a place, it's just disrespectful. Obviously just jealous Scump has all the clout. Just weird.

[@AaronGirouxSalem]

Imagine scump karma crim and formal do a challengers tournament where they get a shot at making the pools that shit would be insane 😂 no shot but imagine

[@Octanebo4missingring2019]

Imagine being a challenger team trying to make a name for ur self and you load up a game against these 4 💀💀💀

[@palmegino1157]

instant ALT F4...

[@GlareGamingHQ]

Crim vs scump in the goat debate is like Brady vs rodgers. One has more championships and the other is the most talented but doesn’t have the championships to be known as the goat

[@wingzero2348]

Karma makes teams, he's the goat man.

[@Abercrombie12389]

A legend once said “Yo yo yo what is going on guys , it’s yo boi , optic scumpii“ - 💔

[@Mertl.]

Good for scump honestly. My favorite player and the reason I got into competitive video games. He and the other pros have been consistently disrespected with half-baked games with consistently degrading integrity.

[@Ren-dl1zy]

I can’t understand it, how Pat says it’s about achievements and wins first with Cod but says Lebron is the greatest when he has less championships and a worse finals record than Jordan?

[@Ihatesports420]

I love aches but he’s got realllllly bad confirmation bias. Sometimes it feel like he be arguing with himself💀

[@TSR1122]

I like hearing Aches talk about COD in general(optic fan so hated him as a player), but he can't separate COD from OPTIC. He is and always will be the Optic Slayer and Hater, and the fire still turns on when he talks about them.

[@Twheak]

Crazy to see how many people have been watching Seth for 10+ years and have still stuck around. Incredibly sad he's gone from comp, but the content to come will be fire.

[@natechavez2069]

This is the first Flank I've watched since the beginning of Vanguard and now I remember why, Aches is so damn insufferable. He think he always has to be right and any opinion other than his is invalid. Tom, Ben and Chris have such great convos and here come Aches just trying to start shit for no reason

[@domwoibo3427]

Surely scump, formal, crim, karma throw back tournaments

[@DonJuan-97]

I’ll be honest I was only really watching CDL because of Seth. The king brought me into the sport

[@gobblon]

pure talent wise scump has to be the goat

[@royalty4958]

If thats the case dashy is top 20. Too bad talent is only one facet of the goat debate

[@zemphz2482]

@@royalty4958yea but seth also has the events wins to go alongside his stats as well as playing the hardest role in the game

[@lazor_us]

simp better

[@royalty4958]

@@zemphz2482 then why isn’t clay or formal above crim? Stats is not everything, there are many things that do not show on a stat sheet that contribute to winning.

[@MrLatarianMilton]

@@lazor_us really isn't tho especially consistancy wise

[@DarkPhysicx]

When all the greats retired from other professional sports, most still keep watching and rooting for their team or find the next best talent. I don’t think viewership will be impacted too much.

[@wiickedszn7854]

late nite snack + the flank W

[@miguelsanchez3149]

The goat debate if you take competition only then Seth is the LBJ of cod and porter is the MJ forsure and Damon is the Kobe . That’s the best references I can give for it to make sense . But in overall with content and how he changed the whole scene with viewership makes him the goat forsure man

[@Mike88G]

Pat couldn’t drop the dumbass trolling for one day bro 😂

[@fredbryce6185]

Scump as a regular on The Flank please!

[@noosh3325]

Scump is the GOAT. World championships aren’t the only thing that matters. With that logic Aches should have Bill Russell as his GOAT in cod

[@lazor_us]

simp better

[@Octanebo4missingring2019]

I like how everyone uses bill Russell as there main argument but never players like Tom Brady when trying to discredit crim

[@CompDodgerGO]

Bill won in a era with less teams crim n scump played in the dame era

[@noosh3325]

@@CompDodgerGO the point of the argument isn’t the comp, it’s abt how everyone just cares abt rings in Cod when they don’t keep the same energy in any other sport

[@CompDodgerGO]

@@noosh3325they do tho Tom most rings in the nfl n they consider him the goat even tho it’s more talented qb out there. Jordan is widely considered over lebron solely because he won more

[@hernandeznc9582]

I was at work and my brother texted the gc talking bout “Yo Scump retired” I texted back “I know it’s his last year” then boom I get the notification for scumps video Legendary Career King Scump 💚

[@itsRecords]

#THANKYOUSCUMP❤

[@brushcrusher9732]

Bro how many times can optic drop dashy then pick him back up 😭

[@kenethernandez6246]

Thought the same thing. Idk how the environment is gonna be over there.

[@aqilladha3668]

Really sad for the CDL. Happy for Scumpy though... Really really sad to say COD IS DYING!!

[@Ziddy2349]

Glad to see the entire chat in the Flank agreed scump is the 🐐. Prove Laches wrong that he doesn’t know everything

[@MW3OPTIC]

Was a huge shock everyone thought he was going to play this year but if your not feeling it there isn't any point carrying on I know he wanted to give dashy a shot I know considering what happened he felt bad after all they are bros at least now he can relax and vibe out as he watches optic play

[@chrisl7924]

Aches should of dropped his Ego back in the jet pack era holy brother

[@farret1998]

Love how aches contradicted himself with the Lebron - scump comparison. Him saying crim is the goat because of achievements means he’s admitted MJ is the goat over Lebron

[@Sempiteral]

Bahaha 1st blood magnet had me rolling ..

[@Rupture28]

Lmao the end had me dead

[@isaacmrls7836]

Feels like these are the new Woodygamertag, Onlyusemeblade, and whiteboy7thst

[@1stKills]

Lmao

[@ChrisLamia]

There is no argument for Scump over Crim. You can bring up the KDs all you want but the reason Scump’s are better is because Crim had to change his play style to accommodate Scump. Crim was the clear cut better player during Bo2 and Ghosts. Then they teamed and Crim had to change from the main slayer role to a support role even though he was previously the better player because it’s a role that Scump can’t play. He’s not smart enough. It’s Crim and there’s no debate

[@UriahandDad]

Even aches can’t troll today

[@EliRidderOfficial]

Scump’s our king forever 💚

[@caro4789]

Scump is the most Important player for competitive cod but Crim is the goat of cod. For now.

[@luistabares7830]

The goat for sure

[@AliFrankTheTank]

Scump retired before Brady. Sad & Confusing times.. No Optic Pred must’ve been the Nail?

[@noahhh_4]

Aches take once again on that Skip Baylee’s status…post IW crim was average and had some good series and moments

[@funjoy0738]

I agree with Aches. Scump didn't wanna make Rambo feel bad but, Aches knows wassup, that's all that matters. Scump is still all good

[@Soundfamiliaruk]

I think zoomas argument on scump being the goat is valid because Crim definitely won the most events but in terms of consistency, always being the number 1 and 2 best player on his team, number 1 to 3 best in the league, best clutches etc scump has been undoubtedly the best consistent player for 10 years! Crim hasnt been in the conversation of top 3 in the game since COD ghost, he’s just been a very good player that had absolutely banging team mates!

[@xZainoo]

Rockr the Tottenham of the cdl lmaoooo

[@HP-rz7ew]

Sad af man, not gonna be the same without him 😞💚

[@ethanwong7665]

There is only one King forever 👑

[@asid28]

Longevity and playing one of the more impactful roles

[@Octanebo4missingring2019]

Crim is the most accomplished And scump is the most talented. Idk why it’s so hard to understand that

[@buckshot5896]

Crim plays for the win and scump plays for kills. Can’t compare the 2, that’s why scump hasn’t won anything without karma and crim

[@CamMackay96]

@@buckshot5896 scump plays the second smg, it's literally his job to clean up the kills after the entry smg. Way to expose yourself as knowing nothing about cod

[@GoldenBoy-sq6yl]

@@CamMackay96 nope that the flex job the subs job are to keep pace up or down depending on how they play dont speak on stuff u know nothing about

[@Ihatesports420]

16:14 the moment a lebron stan realizes mj is the GOAT

[@messiahjoel9546]

Deum i feel old asf , i started seee scump when i was 13 now im 26 , for me is the Goat

[@YaegerWon]

To say someone the goat based on wins isn’t so accurate though it’s the team who wins not the sole player, crim will always be one of the goats to me but I don’t think he is thee goat.

[@kenethernandez6246]

Nah, he really is. KD does not matter more than wins no matter what anyone says. Plus crim was a great leader during his time competing while scump still needed someone to lead him even during his veteran days.

[@Finagler14]

He is even if people don't like it. I personally like clayster more than all of them. But it's crim.

[@foxtrot426]

​@@Finagler14 Same I like Karma the 3 LAN rings was hard to ignore for a long time, but I too believe it's Crim, he deserves the status, as the goat of the goats regardless of his flaws in game and out, adding all the other elements people talk about puts him above Karma, Clay & Scump but only slightly. Your boy Clay already one of the goats could steal that crown in a lot of peoples eyes with just one more ring, he'd certainly sway me as i put the most emphasis personally on the world championships aka the rings over ability/ceiling, longevity, and regular championships won, not that i ignore those other elements, not at all i just value the rings higher they have more weight, Clay with 4 rings and a longevity surpassing Crim's he'd get my vote despite having less championships.

[@Finagler14]

@@foxtrot426 Karma's a great one too. Especially around Bop2 and ghost. Dude was dominant. I really would like clayster to win another ring but even I'm doubtful it could happen. There's so many dominant kids now.

[@Finagler14]

@@foxtrot426 Although Karrigan is still playing for a top team in csgo and he's older than clay. So anything is possible. Sometimes the brain matters more than top level talent.

[@dantamulonis5566]

Top right contradicted himself the entire time lmao

[@nomithahomi]

Wen looking like scrappy at the end there 😂

[@amukiia]

Damn i forgot how they smoked Aches and made him contradict himself with the MJ LeBron argument lmao

[@ArrowDB]

Aches is wild. Seth played a MUCH harder position on MUCH worse teams. Crim was carried to the Optic championship by Formal and Scump lol.

[@uhhFez]

What Pat is trying to say is Crim is the GOAT but Scump is the KING

[@nightllama9018]

Optic may have really wanted to keep dashy and keep him out of the hands of another team, and Seth saw this as his chance to retire a bit early, you get to keep bruce also. Could be wrong but that was any first thought

[@dunbarskii1929]

I pretty much agree with this take, but I think Scump was the one who said let’s keep Bruce and squash the beef now because Dash is a OG.

[@adolfBBC]

To me it seems like success is and always has been paramount to the team. Disagreements are part of life, especially in competition. Things get heated and cracks begin to show. To put it simply Seth, while still a top 10 player is probably affecting the dynamic of the team in some way with his foot halfway out the door. With huke coming in there's a guaranteed level of communication and prior success that he feels he can now put the inevitable to rest while giving his long serving teammate another run in. Dashy, despite his obvious all star league talent hasn't won enough. It seems like a matter of time until everything falls Into place and he gets a few more chips and even a ring under him. Had seth retired on his terms I'd imagine shotzzy would've found a way to faze next year. Now I see them sticking through the game cycle and possibly the next. Rambowls issues seem pretty bog standard for a team and I'm sure they can hash it out in the name of getting Ws. Either way win or lose I wouldn't have it any other way. Dashy is a franchise player idc what anyone says.

[@badazz02220]

Holding onto the hope Seth gets to fill in for Illey at some time just to see that lineup for a match.

[@topropenoptop]

Like aches said, most viewers are there for OpTic which really just means for Scump. I think with Scump out it will allow people to shift their “loyalty” to other teams. Maybe it could end up helping in a way

[@J312z3y11]

Scump to replace Ben on the Flank???

[@iAMJaws]

The true goat of cod.

[@InstaDome]

crushing to see him retire but cannot wait to support him with his content and whatever else he decides :)

[@matthewboccella]

hes going to be doing road to 100-0 and probably sweatbannin again in league play once its out

[@collinbassett]

We need to get to a spot in esports where ppl don’t get in their feelings/hold grudges when they get benched. That probably would’ve solved the problems from the jump and Scump would still be playing. A team of 4 ppl oppose to 15-40 is a lot more personable. Everyone needs to be able to put their emotions aside and still play at 110%.

[@GamingNipples]

I’m going to miss Scump a lot. Hopefully he posts some pub stomping again

[@declanriley2936]

Countless people will amass more accolades crimsix but there will never be another optic Scump

[@ismaelsierra9946]

The king will be missed for sure.

[@King-Chub]

C6 biggest GOAT argument is that Scump couldn’t win a world championship without Crim

[@Finagler14]

Yeah I know everyone likes scump and that's understandable. I was brought into the scene because of nadeshot not scump but he was still huge for many. But he doesn't deserve the goat spot. Crim was always a player who got wins no matter what no matter how unlikable he comes across. Scump is notorious for choking despite his skill

[@bbll9allstr]

If the man wants a couch…he’s earned one

[@TheBeastFatboy]

Say what you will, Aches is right about Crim being the GOAT. His stats are just better. You can’t say Seth didn’t have good players around him because Optic has always had the ability of getting the best players. CDL impaired their ability (Pred situation) but 99% of players in the league would interest the idea of playing for Optic. Regardless, Seth made such an impact on this community. We wouldn’t be where we are without him. 😢❤

[@nishinoja3775]

Bro how can chat and the guys disagree with Pat when it comes to the goat debate? Crim won everything with Scump plus his own dynasty. Was Scump the bigger name, brand and the bigger help for the scene? Yes but competitively speaking... There's no debate.

[@ebarefield316]

I disagree with Pat saying Scump isn’t the GOAT based on the amount of rings he won. Jordan won less rings that Bill Russell, but he has always been acknowledged as the GOAT. It’s not just about rings. It’s about influence, notoriety and impact that he had on esports as a whole. Scump In unquestionably the GOAT in my opinion.

[@Aut2k]

“Matt and Seth”… you don’t know them like that BenJNissim.

[@ohhSinzo]

I love how Haggy is acting like “!drops” isn’t the reason that saved viewership at Raleigh when optic got knocked out early 🤡

[@fadeitluie9356]

Scump GOAT