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[@willeh9492]

We’ll be using this in 2050 when we get arthritis.

[@zadsazhad]

Well i have arthritis 🥲 but i play on low sens 800dpi 2.5

[@Nicc93]

@@Geppsyy vaccine is not a cure, vaccine does not stop you 100% from getting sick. If it actually did stop you from getting sick it would have been mandatory from the start

[@notchipotle]

🤣 my hand is already make some weird noise

[@mclilzenthepoet2331]

@@Nicc93 oke and when did he argue that point he just said it's not going to give you an illness if you take it because the comment on top was spewing anti-vaxx propaganda

[@zorbalight3933]

@@eventhorizon88 potato alert

[@nathanjohnson5304]

Appreciate the coverage on this stuff. Companies making accessible input devices should be better highlighted IMO.

[@kevcreations5861]

facts

[@jesh879]

Agree, but the issue is not many companies make the jump to gaming grade hardware. For trackballs, there are really 2 options, and this is one of them.

[@rawaccel2693]

Hey, thanks for the shoutout! You might have an even better experience if you try a steeper concave down / power shape. Trackball users especially swear by this configuration and it's also my personal favourite on mouse, where I effectively mimic the CSGO default accel through a power curve.

[@Healp145]

Optimum pls

[@WildThingss]

Really great advice here. Thank you!

[@Maverick0190]

I got an MX Ergo and try to setup your Software. Dont realy understand it yet. Can you elaborate?

[@jesh879]

Linear is best for building muscle memory, which is mandatory for high levels of play.

[@jesh879]

@@Healp145 raw accel users disagree with you and so do pros who use acceleration 🙃

[@RedHealerMatt]

Having used a trackball for years (both an mx ergo and an elecom huge) I can say that over time you get used to the inertia of the ball and get pretty adept at flicking it with the right amount of power to track effectively. You can give a quick flick and you'll get used to how fast the ball slows down. Heavier/bigger balls spin faster and longer. Lighter balls spin fast but slow fast. The other thing is for the index finger ones you can use more than one finger for ultra precision if needed or to stabilize the ball for tiny movements. I swap between my ergo and elecom depending on the game because the elecom has a hug ball which is great if I don't have to track too much. The ergo is small and light so tracking is easy.

[@TiltschMaster]

Just wanted to say thank you for the RawAccel tip. I just bought the GameBall because I have severe wrist pain sometimes with my regular mouse, even switching to an ergonomic one didn't fix the problem. So, I decided fuck it and bought the GameBall, stumbled upon the project in the middle of 2020. Honestly, I'm too young to have ever used one of these before, I started out with a normal mouse when I first started using a PC (though it was a physical one with the ball inside at the time). It's a bit strange using this thing, but I think over time I'm going to get there, Raw Accel has definetly already helped. It's just wild to me that this thing even exists.

[@Raire]

I'm glad you took the time to try out trackball gaming! While not for everyone, that was a good representation of the experience!

[@robertkarp2070]

Trackballs are nice because you're not restricted to needing a desktop to use, you can have it at your side on the couch if you want. I've been using trackball for years and never looked back.

[@ulysseslee9541]

The big advantage of using track ball: your hand is so comfortable due to no big motion of your hand for big motion on screen,, the ball do all this job for you.

[@yensteel]

Slight flick: 180 degree turn XD

[@DuBstep115]

gaming mouse is probably least ergonomic mouse option there is market today, at work we have vertical mouse and it's far more better for your wrist

[@girdsy9971]

this channel continues to impress me

[@johnb7690]

I started using a trackball due to repetitive strain on my shoulder and elbow caused by using a normal mouse. Good ergonomics go a long way to prevent repetitive strain injuries (RSI)

[@raggedvagabond7537]

Look, I grew up playing Unreal Tournament [UT99-2004] with a large index finger controlled tracball, very similar to this design, and I was always at the top of the board. Only reason I've used a tradtional mouse for gaming since then is that similar styled tracballs were either paperweights or entirely non-existent. Never had any wrist problems, still don't 22 years later, but I wouldn't be picking a tracball for comfort as much as simply feeling at home again. A lot of people speak on the precision and accuracy of the tracball, and honestly it comes down to familiarity and quality of manufacture. I'm ready to see this gaming with a tracball as a meme get wrecked, I don't think it's inferior to the traditonal mouse, just different. One huhe advantage it has though, click a mouse, that's energy into the mouse, and movement of the mouse. You don't notice it because you're used to it by now. Tracball, you point, and that ball doesn't move just because you click.

[@fluffypinkpandas]

I feel like a flight stick with a trackball on its top would be ideal. Even if it means that in an FPS, both control aim. You could use the analog for broad sweeping turns thst need to be made at a high speed And the trackball on top to counter adjust and make more precise inputs when an enemy is near your crosshair

[@Unborn8436]

I feel old because i loved these back in the early 2000's lol. The only annoying part is it gets dirty quick

[@robbiemer8178]

I don't play FPS games but for the games I do enjoy, my trackball has been fine. I've long used one and started because I had a lap top as my only pc for 15 years or so(lots of travel for work) and having to find a spot where I could move a mouse around was not always possible. Using a trackball meant I needed much less space. This particular trackball seems like it will be really good for left handers and certainly will help folks with mobility issues. I think the learning curve for me would be a bit steep since I have so many years of using my thumb to move the ball with. Good review of this, thanks!

[@SullySadface]

Hmm. This could help out with my wrist lock issue. Probably less work than getting my Dualsense to play nice with PC gamin.

[@iantellam9970]

I've been playing with a thumb trackball for a few years due to RSI issues (which have now disappeared). I'm not a big FPS player anyway so I can't tell you it's 100% as good as a mouse, but even then it's obvious that a trackball is miles better than a controller. At this point I'm better with a trackball than either tbh. It did take a couple of months to completely adjust though, but then my trackball is nowhere near as premium as this one. Most aren't designed for gaming.

[@SullySadface]

@@iantellam9970 /laughs in steam controller

[@iantellam9970]

@@SullySadface Always wanted to try that. Shame they don’t make them any more. Still think a physical trackball would be better.

[@jed1nat]

@@SullySadface Steam controller literally uses trackball emulation, so...

[@Oniphire]

I have chronic wrist pain in both wrists so I've been gaming with a trackball for years. They're the only way I can realistically play anymore so I'm always glad to see trackballs getting coverage

[@okaymarcel9273]

I'm actually seriously grinding the GameBall in Valorant. Gonna keep grinding to see how high I can get. Up to 300 hours so far on this mouse. Peaked S3 so far. Got some cool clutches with hand cams out too.

[@okaymarcel9273]

As an update, I've been able to grind my aim up to about an average of 52,000 in gridshot.

[@wiegraf9009]

About five years ago I switched from an optical mouse to trackball and started using the Colemak keyboard layout for typing. The combination of the two completely got rid of the terrible RSI I had been experiencing and I don't expect I'll ever go back. I'm interested in getting better at Apex Legends so I'll try using some of the methods you tried out here!

[@CodiMorphett]

I'd love to see a video like this for the Logitech MX Ergo, I've been using one for two years and have become decently proficient using it in games

[@jonnytenebrous1113]

Like a lot of long-term gamers, I've developed RSI. So, it's trackball or gamepad for me these past few years - normal mice are out. Honestly, you can become pretty competent with a trackball! Thanks for the tip about Raw Accel!

[@coreykirkpatrick4392]

I have been daily driving various trackballs for gaming for over almost 2 decades. Currently on a Logitech MX ERGO. Have absolutely no issue holding my own in FPS, will never go back to a normal mouse. Also note that trackball placement can also be a factor, thumb based vs. index finger based ball. I find I am much more accurate with a thumb based ball which seems much more natural than the index finger.

[@theFirstAidKit]

After a left hand surgery a while back I was unable to use the fingers of my left hand for two months, so I bought a Razer Naga mouse and keybinded all the normal movement, crouch, jump etc keys to the mouse and played FPS games one handed. I even played League with just the mouse and it was actually really easy to learn to play like that. Sure it was hard to move, crouch and jump at the same time, but overall it was decent. I gained a huge respect on accessibility options in games and hardware during that time and this seems like a really cool product.

[@busterscrugs]

The person who got me into gaming always used a trackball, I bet they'd love this

[@garyandersontech]

I bought one of these, and it replaced my Logitech Ergo. I have been in IT for 28 years, and using a trackball for 18 of them. I game on a trackball, and yes this is the ultimate in trackball gaming!!

[@mrbigberd]

Once upon a time in the 90s and early 00s, several pro players used trackballs. It depends a lot on what you're used to using.

[@Asdayasman]

I wanna see a hybrid. Laser for big movements, thumb trackball for fine movements. I'd pay.

[@notinajaronmars]

You guys might appreciate using a regular mouse but just vertically to reduce strain right? Imagine that. Well, a "vertical mousepad" does just that for me. I got an early sample from Orb Control called mouseramp, and I been using it a lot nowadays. It's replaced my vert mouse. Worth checking out for all you fellow regular mouse lovers. I hope this helps.

[@dealerofdeeth6043]

Ive been daily driving a track ball for about a month with a bit of casual fps gaming. I run an elecom huge, if youre thinking on getting a trackball you go big or go home you gotta go with big balls for finer movement. As for lube, it may be your bearings, i don't have experience upgrading them but ive read it really makes the difference for smoothness otherwise gour bearings are gonna get gunked up with dust from your fingers, i aim to clean it every other session or so

[@fbiopenup5270]

reviews above and beyond. PUT SOME GRIP TAPE AND HYPERGLIDES ON THAT THING /S

[@marcinkuna1252]

I'm still rocking my Logitech MX Ergo Plus trackball :) sure - it's useless against mouse for competitive gaming, but it's so nice to use that I don't care. Bonus point is that I can place it anywhere (chair armrest, lap, my chest when I'm on bed) and it still works without issues.

[@bgbc1]

its great to see options out there, to see a tecnology keep up and have new versions, I used a lot ball tracking because my mom have one for working as an architec and its really good, you just take some time and will be good to go. I like it because it relax your hand a lit bit compared to regular mouse and you dont get to annoyed by ending your mouse pad space. I think you forgot to point out that gives your desk some space as you can forgot the mouse pad.

[@Workmusic1988]

Be interesting to test a Mac Track Pad (which you can get as a stand alone). That would remove the physical movement of the ball and would instead have you pointing with your finger.

[@kridselot7383]

around 1995 there were many trackball options to choose from.

[@TheTopMostDog]

I think I've found the one! I've been researching trackballs to build my own lapboard. I have a sova, but it's too big and a mouse is not only unnecessary (as I don't play competitive games from the couch), but also frustrating to have the mouse fall off when shifting in the chair or letting go to type two handed; a trackball will hopefully be ideal! Thanks for the video!

[@JaredSerrano-t9y]

I still can't game with a trackball, but I use a trackball for 99 percent of my computing. It's just better at everything else. I'm gonna grab a Gameball and see if I can make that switch (mostly to try it out, it looks like a dream come true for me).

[@TheCasualPanda]

for my formitive computing years, from 2003 when i got my first handme down pentium II machine, to 2012, when i was finally able to gather the cash to build my own pc, I was using a microsoft thumb trackball. Thing was comfy af, and i always felt like gaming was no issue. I've been quietly trying to tell people who dog on trackballs that it's actually not that bad. When I built my own computer though, i didn't see any thumb trackballs outside of the wireless logitech one, and i wasn't willing to trust wireless tech just yet at the time, so i've been using mice since then. Would always think about switching back though

[@hybr1d694]

Been using Logitech's Marble mouse since gen one and Quake 2 (1995+). I can't play shooters without it. :) I wish Logitech made a G version of it.

[@Parathion2246]

I actually wonder how a gaming mouse (just a regular optical mouse) but one that had a track ball with separate dpi settings would work. You could use the mouse for fast jerky movements such as snap aiming, and then make micro adjustments such as shot placement with the low dpi trackball, and you could do it simultaneously. With the right design and key binding it would probably be superior to aiming with a regular mouse. A design layout like the Gameball would be perfect if you rebound left click to, say, the space bar and just devoted the mouse entirely to aim.

[@laughingvampire7555]

trackballs are great to play non-FPS games like ARPGs or Colony simulation games are great with trackballs.

[@ericwright8592]

Try a vertical grip mouse next 👍 I developed a repetitive strain injury that caused insane pain when using a regular mouse. Vertical grip is weird at first but it's basically the only way I can use a mouse anymore. I'm kind of curious how common RSI is among competitive keyboard and mouse gamers?

[@jty9631]

That's nice, I used the Logitech Trackman Marble for a long time when I was a kid. Yeah, you need to use acceleration, and a high sens. I would recommend using more fingers to control the ball. You can use 2 fingers, or 3 fingers on the ball. Right clicks can be done with the ring finger or pinky.

[@pendragonshall]

IF you played with JUST a GOOD trackball. The original marble mouse for instance. Once you got good.. a week or so.. You would NEVER go back. That gameball looks very good... INSANE speed and accuracy for FPS. BETTER than a normal mouse, once you practice. The problem is the marble mouse which is king doesn't have a scroll wheel. So I purchased the Kensington with scroll wheel. It's amazing but not quite as ergonomically perfect but close enough. But it lacks the other MBS or alt buttons. Going to try the ELECOM one or this Gameball and see how it goes. NEVER the thumb trackball. I can never understand why these aren't number one for gamers.. EVERY person I've got to try them. ALWAYS prefers the trackball for gaming and just overall..

[@moddyhax6843]

Been using a trackball since day 1 and never used a mouse. I am the reverse case. I can pwn kids with the trackball but with a mouse I'm trash.

[@youtubevanced4900]

One of my friends tried switching to trackball back in the 90's. He put up with that stupid thing for a couple of LANs, playing Q2 and various other games. It was so bad. His was thumb operated though.

[@subrezon]

I first bought myself a trackball just for work because I found using a mouse for 8 hours straight very exhausting for my wrist. Nowadays, my mouse gets almost zero use, I use the trackball for all games except for Siege.

[@itsgen8283]

For me raw accel was a godsend. I've always seemed to be shaky regardless of high or low sens or fast or slow pad. Now I have steady tracking and still have a really snappy 21cm sens for flicks.

[@handlmycck]

I cant believe i didnt see a single joke about flicking the bean so i just had to mention it.

[@ChillBuilds]

I used to play CS 1.5 on a trackball. It took me a long time to get used to a normal mouse.

[@oliverturner128]

I thought this was a Mr.Homless video from the thumnail at first....

[@OryxAU]

My wife uses a Logitech MX Ergo, she has RSI and finds trackballs much more comfortable to use. This looks interesting but I'm not sure if the track ball in this position is any better, but obviously I'm not the target market here.

[@humorss]

I bought a track ball, and only a week later the ball is the only thing I play with

[@garethevans9789]

I'm left handed, but I prefer to use a mouse in my right hand. Now it feels natural to me (ambidextrous mice seem like a bigger compromise). Must give mouse acceleration a whirl (I toggle dpi currently).

[@sohrabhamza3805]

This guy plays better with the trackball than I do with a mouse.

[@Bpapayaboy]

I noticed that your middle finger didn't do anything. My recommend is try to use both index and middle finger to control the ball you will get a lot more precise. From trackball user

[@Healp145]

Keep in mind that you can use arrow keys to adjust your sensitivity in doom eternal

[@Cleu1231]

The Logitech M570 with the thumbball mouse is better for gaming imo as someone who has used a ball mouse for over a decade.

[@aniquinstark4347]

A trackball mouse like this doesn't offer any functionality that a controller doesn't already have

[@CstriderNNS]

after first trying a track ball i NEVER went back to a mouse

[@Mazzeha]

My cousin and I used to use these, we played Cs 0 to cs 1.3, medal of honour and delta force 😀 then we both got a zai mouse. We were both half decent too. I think they were logitech

[@HAJZX]

DAMMMMNNNN I love watching you play.. You're so good at FPS man... maybe try foot paddle next xD

[@joeschmoe5009]

Logitech make a gaming trackball!

[@jokroast6912]

Ball on the bottom need to come back, there are more materials available for the ball than ever since the optical mouse took over and dominated.

[@hazardo4378]

You should check out a battlefield player MetalSlug, top player, uses track ball

[@diogos7233]

Do u think this is a good mouse for designers? Don't know if it's going to be easy to use when editing photos and designing websites. What's your thoughts?

[@GraveUypo]

would be nice to organize a little quake 3 competition between some friends, and when they show up have all pcs set up with these, so everyone plays like a goddamn noob and the fastest learner wins. kinda like a few weeks ago when i played quake on the xbox with my brother. we both sucked just as badly as the other at the beginning, but as minutes passed a gap started to form and by half an hour in i was completely dominating him to the point it ruined the fun we were having earlier.

[@sepakurei]

now i wanna see this on twitch while playing apex legend. In the meantime don't play apex legend now. The server kinda trash right now. I still wanna see you play with the trackball, i wanna try buy this trackball or maybe the logitech ergo mouse ig?

[@arkhira5928]

Have you continued to use this trackball? The most common complaints I have seen is the actuation force, ball popping out and button placement.

[@Brandon-dj9cq]

I'm surprised no one made a track ball controller yet, it might be good(?)

[@shApYT]

how does it compare to the mx ergo shape? You don't need to be disabled to appreciate ergonomics.

[@Pixelcraftian]

_"Suddenly, the gameball started to click"_ Wait, then how have you been playing the game beforehand?

[@HDJess]

yep, notice that too. I was almost sure IT DOES have that function, aside from the side buttons :)

[@Malysitos]

I think he was just playing like normal. He just need some time to adjust to his trackball’s acceleration settings to aim better. But if you thought that the trackball itself started clicking, then no. He meant that he finally understood and adjusted to the feel of the trackball mouse, hence why it “clicked” for him after 3 hours of using it.

[@Pixelcraftian]

-Guys the joke is that if he can't click he can't play-

[@aeis0]

@@Malysitos and the joke just went flying over your head

[@atom6486]

@@aeis0 one can hear the sound of the joke whooshing by his head

[@jamesleung2450]

Before optical mice were a thing trackballs were a legitimate competitor to mice for gaming from what I remember.

[@funghazi]

Yeah, when I was a kid we used a trackball on our 8088 and 286, we didn't switch to mice until we got a 486 in the early 90s.

[@HollowRick]

I remember those days using one to play starcraft back in the day

[@FlameRat_YehLon]

Nowadays most trackbacks are optical anyway. If you pop the ball of you can see the sensor beneath. And you don't need a good mouse pad to get low friction out of it, as long as you clean the ball regularly.

[@nukeum9535]

I still use the wireless trackman for games. I find more range of motion then a traditional mouse.

[@TH-lo8mq]

The MS Trackball Explorer is one of the best peripherals ever made. I wish they'd update it, and not this 3D printed Ploopy nonsense.

[@IV-fad]

More accessibility is never a bad thing! Seems like a nice product despite the niche use cases. Props for dialing it in and performing pretty well with it.

[@primordialcat6986]

For casual it is

[@callmeacutekitten3317]

@@primordialcat6986 i guess quake pros are casuals no

[@primordialcat6986]

@shirase it's shit for gaming imo

[@jepubepu9570]

@@primordialcat6986 then its not for you, take note of the word "accessibility"

[@primordialcat6986]

​@@jepubepu9570 im talking about in competitive gaming perspective and besides who would use it when mouse is much better? a fcking guy who has a hand injury? then this product is for them and casuals LOL

[@michaelthompson9798]

Having an uncle who had mobility issues from a stroke and restricted control, yet loved his console gaming ……. This for a pc would give many the opportunity to either start or keep playing many pc titles despite their ailments or disabilities. Great product to see, as well as to see in action.

[@shApYT]

the m575 is also pretty good as it is closer to a traditional mouse and you can use your thumb for the trackball instead.

[@michaelthompson9798]

@@shApYT 👍😆 thanks for letting me know, will keep an eye out for it. Cheers 🍻

[@hfklsd]

one of my friends games with a trackball because he doesn't have a lot of desk space... he doesnt play many competitive fps but in Garys mod and minecraft, he has no problem at all! I definitely think that a trackball is a viable gaming device, but with a very niche market..

[@yensteel]

It's really useful for large displays! One flick and you're at the other corner of the screen. It's also useful on the couch.

[@tldrinfographics5769]

Like how small is his desk? are we talking about the size of large plate?

[@syekow7732]

tell him he can use a higher dpi and lower sens for games

[@elijahperez9330]

@@takh6806 For me, trackball is better than a mouse. I use the Trackman Marble for FPS.

[@stratosvagiannis5140]

@@takh6806 cause not every game has aim assist, minecraft, apex, csgo,valorant.ect are all basically inaccessable to controller players (at least not accesable comfortably)

[@genmaicha_]

props to being one of the few tech channels that actually considers niche markets and viewpoints instead of other channels that clickbait with "THE STRANGEST LOOKING MOUSE (IS IT TRASH FOR GAMING??)"

[@haifutter4166]

We both just came from said video, aren't we? XD Also I generally like the not named channel, but I was disappointed about that premature and poorly done review. This channel here one the other side does a great job.

[@genmaicha_]

@@haifutter4166 wait that video actually exists? haha, i was just thinking off the top of my head "hmmm, what would a youtube clickbait title be for this one" i didnt know it was actually done

[@haifutter4166]

@@genmaicha_ "Cool and CRAZY mice you might have never heard of!" was the actual title, but for the review of the gameball it actually went like " I think it's trash for gaming, because i wasn't able to set the button layout to my preferences and didn't activate mouse acceleration, although it was literally invented for trackball mice, because I'm a noob and didn't bother to research " Besides this fail I like most of his videos.

[@hook357]

Thanks! I'm missing my right hand and just have a stump. I currently use a trackball to aim, but I bet this one has higher sensitivity. Definitely will try it!

[@mistermood4164]

Do you use a prosthetic while you game?

[@hook357]

@@mistermood4164 nope. I use a huge Kensington trackball and roll it around with my stump. I use a razer tartarus speed pad with my left hand for all my keyboard functions.

[@BasicallyHomeless]

They should make one with a trackball the size of a basketball haha what a meme that would be

[@level8473]

stfu go back to making siege pls

[@BasicallyHomeless]

@@level8473 you are literally a number leave me alone

[@sexyyoda7567]

@@BasicallyHomeless so long, no upload . Why bruv?

[@BasicallyHomeless]

@@sexyyoda7567 had baby aha yo I like your name bro

[@Hybred]

They need to make a eye tracker mouse

[@VimCommando]

As one of those trackball enthusiasts who has gamed on one for the last 20 years, I really appreciate your dedication to really learn how it works and not just give a 2-hour impression. Many people forget (or were too young to remember) just how bad they were when they first started gaming on mice 🤣

[@ZigUncut]

I've never got as good as with a mouse but I love TBs. I use the elecom huge TB for almost everything

[@ArathSin]

What about those of us old enough to remember gaming on mice before consoles were a thing? I've always gamed on Mice. I remember the first time someone had an XBox and I tried playing a FPS with a controller, what. the. heck. "Oh, controllers need aim assist? Yeah that makes sense."

[@ZigUncut]

@@ArathSin Gaming with a mouse is still a thing for PC players especially FPS. No better way.

[@razcarsey6635]

@@ZigUncut The Elecom huge is glorious. I game with that big boy all the time. :)

[@RobertOw83]

As a gamer with limited range of arm/hand movement/accessibility requirements - thank you for this.

[@dam_j4105]

I played so many years with an old Microsoft Trackball ! Its just so good. I will definitely give this thing a shot !! THANK YOU !

[@TheZoenGaming]

I gamed for 3 years on a $35 Logitech wireless trackball. The longer you use a device the more you adapt to it. I'm actually interested in this product.

[@ScrappyCoco11111]

Dear Diary, today I watched a man play Apex on a trackball. He played much better than I do with a normal mouse.

[@-Cesh-]

Yeah looking at his Kovaak high scores was humbling. 😂

[@gabegrinff]

I have one of these and it's incredible, I haven't missed a beat with FPS games and it's super helpful to have a pointing device that you don't need to fret about desk space for. The scrollpad is a godsend for work especially excel docs. I used to game with a steel series sensei, then moved on to a CST ltrac trackball and now this, and I'll never go back to traditional mice

[@gabegrinff]

@Francesco Rondina depends on the user afaik! In my case a finger ball (lol) is way more ergonomic and precise

[@iantellam9970]

@Francesco Rondina I'm also a thumb trackball fan. If they made a gaming thumb trackball, I'd be first in line.

[@vwvw]

the creator of the gameball has posted on the r/trackballs subreddit that a thumball is planned sometime in the far future. its not going to be out any time soon, but keep an eye out ; )

[@iantellam9970]

@@vwvw Ah cool. I check in there from time to time but hadn't seen that. Thanks for the heads-up.

[@marsovac]

I went from cheap mouse to trackball to a steel series mouse and will never go back :D I wanted the trackball to work well but in the end a good mouse beats it hands down.

[@Rustyybucket]

damn, you aim better with track ball than most people (myself included) with a mouse.

[@thotdestoryer4203]

same bruh

[@willwunsche6940]

This is so cool. You can tell whoever made it actually really cared about making a good product. Obviously not the new competitive standard but when we all have carpal tunnel in 20 years from being gaming addicts 🤣 we'll have amazing products like this

[@astrixau8928]

Yeah I hurt my thumb a few years back from playing to much I used my thumb too much and got Quervain's tenosynovitis. I had a shot of cortisone steroids and it fixed it magically after a few days. I went months at work in pain before getting it checked out which was silly by me.

[@niczay58]

that is actually so good for wrist injuries etc.

[@stark3266]

If the ball is lost can we adjust with lemon.

[@pj85438]

Thanks for using your platform visibility to bring awareness of a product like this! It takes work for people to see and think outside of their immediate lived experience so big kudos

[@kevinmendoza3463]

I purchased the gameball as soon as it was available and I absolutely love it but I'm still way far off of what I can do with my regular mouse. Tip for those small movements for when you have to adjust for sliders or to highlight certain words, the "Middle mouse click" on the other side of the mouse is a dpi switch button that I click on regularly for those situations. Also, using both your index finger and middle finger to control the ball makes it much easier when aiming.

[@judasblewit]

I'm thinking about getting one pushing 40 my elbow is messed up and causing me issues with my mouse. But is it worth 150?

[@AdultshopitCoUk]

where do you buy one from carnt seem to find this

[@torb-no]

The best Counter Strike player I ever met at a LAN party was using a Logitech Trackball mouse. He was extremely accurate yet also turned around 180 degrees extremely quickly, something I did by flicking the ban so it spun and stopping it right in it's tracks when I turned 180 and then took you down even though you came from behind. He was perfectly capable of using a regular mouse, he just preffered a trackball.

[@originalrr3800]

I used to use one of these in Call of duty 2 back in the day I was a beast with it ! Try using your 2 middle fingers on the ball and your thumb and your 4th finger for the mouse clicks so much more controll over the ball

[@TypeVertigo]

Great video. The GameBall looks like a modernized version of the Logitech TrackMan Marble I had in 2011, which is similar in basic design but has just four buttons and no scroll control, and I did use it back in the day to play Mass Effect 1. Great work on finding the tools to get it to work for your play style, too. I've conceded to using a Logitech G304/G305 for gaming, but for productivity I use Logitech's MX570 and MX Ergo wireless thumb-driven trackballs, which are perfect for compact workspaces and using as a "remote control" for a computer.

[@Dualllight]

Trackballs are great! I use an mx ergo myself and have no problem with any game, and I play a lot of fps's. Sometimes I even play well.

[@patklze]

I like it alot but the 150hz polling is major drawback for gaming

[@Pilotgeek]

Thanks for covering this! I used to exclusively use a Logitech Marble mouse, for both gaming and general computing, and this looks like a modernized version I'd be interested in. Never liked thumb trackballs, so this looks great for my purposes. Not sure if there's a "proper" way to use a trackball, but the reason I always preferred the finger ones is the ability to use multiple points of contact, which eventually feels natural and is WAY more precise than the single finger out in the air thing you're doing 😅.

[@lattyware]

Cool to see someone covering trackballs. I've been a trackball user for years as I use computers so much for work and fun just as a defensive health measure, seeing so many people with RSI, and grown to love using them. There are some great ones out there (I use the Elecom Huge personally) and after using it normally it feels totally natural to game with it. Personally I find it way easier to do tiny accurate movements and also giant movements without having to throw the mouse around like you would with a traditional mouse. I definitely do find new trackballs take a little bit of time to smooth out, the tend to be a bit sticky out of the box. I think thumb-trackballs are much easier to get used to for most people, so might be worth a look if you are unsure.

[@Squashed8Ball]

I played CS for years with a Logitech thumb ball. I had no problems being competitive with it.

[@diuran1919]

Elecom are super but not for games, there are not smooth to use them to play games.

[@haifutter4166]

@@diuran1919 Not true: Some KZbin channels show how to swap the uneven ruby bearings with standard ceramic. The stock ruby bearings are the problem.

[@haifutter4166]

@@Squashed8Ball All personal preference: I had to use a thumb trackball in the lab at some desks (with limited desk space) and I never got used to it. Too low dexterity with my thumb. This fingertip trackball on the other hand felt natural form the first minute I used it (although this is my first one).

[@robonator2945]

Wait, did you do a bearing replacement on your elecom? I know a lot of trackballers (yes, by my personal decree that is the official term) complain that the synthetic ruby bearings that come stock in elecom devices are garbo but I wonder if they are actually designed to be 'broken-in' or something.

[@Ciz4Crummy]

Amazing video on something completely different than your normal videos!

[@suchti9049]

Great for people with injuries / low desk space

[@blackax]

The only thing I would say is if any want to give this a try, use two finders on the ball. I also "choke" up on the mouse and it works best for me.

[@danielp121]

I've seen a Military guy who streams with this on Twitch. He's actually amazing to watch playing Warzone 😳 Edit: he was in the US Army

[@frozencan1305]

I need sauce

[@danielp121]

@@frozencan1305 I'll find the sauce for you bro. I got tired finding it yesterday 🤣🤣

[@frozencan1305]

@@danielp121 it's alright take yo time

[@ScorpionNCX]

I really appreciate that you’re covering this product and mention accessibility specifically (especially for people with arm/wrist/mobility issues in this case). Thanks for the quality review and keep up the good work.