How to Use Futures to Invest and Hedge a Portfolio | Part 2- Hedging Through Futures | Optionables

[@MrSwapnil12347]

Happy Guru pournima to both of u. You are my mentors. Best of luck for ur bright future. 💐💐💐

[@russelr4652]

Great ideas.....it is because of genuine people like you that many are learning free of cost.....and that too with Top Class information

[@dreamindo2061]

Your mentioned view gone correct about nifty for 2022. Thank you for valuable content. God bless you Optionables.

[@adiyogi-thefirstguru5144]

I really bow down to you 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks for sharing the knowledge. May god bless you, your family and your business 🙏 Keep sharing the knowledge it means a lot to beginners like me 🙏

[@jainnarein]

Am watching this video in Nov 2022... Ur predictions exactly happened the same. Cool man👍

[@bhushanvyavahare2686]

What about charges? Futures contracts take too much charges.

[@tastyvazhkai]

Is it like cover cal?

[@sudeep3205]

Hi Saketh, I think selling atm call and buying 2% otm put might be good one🤔, as per my calculation this gives advantage only after 4months considering premium u get from future and 2% risk aswell, but I think it's worth considering as you are planning to hold shorts for more than 4months as well and anyways you are good at adjusting, this will be added advantage for you, pls correct me if I am wrong. ( Some percentage short and some percentage this method should be even better🤔)

[@ak211]

If you sell calls and buy puts that means you have locked your upside and waiting for market to fall. And if market rallies then band baaja baaraat. No don't do that...bad idea.

[@sudeep3205]

@@ak211 no I just said it will give better return than shorting nifty future, and as Saketh is already good at adjustments he can keep shifting his position to higher levels to get more decay when it's moving higher.

[@sbadriprasad]

That's a good point, @optionable Team why can't we use options over futures?

[@sbadriprasad]

Also Bala what is theory behind 4 months, didn't get it..

[@sudeep3205]

@@sbadriprasad To collect more premium we will sell ATM call, but we are only buying 1% or 2% lower put in order cover this risk and 50points premium collected from futures, it takes 4months to breakeven with direct future short.

[@abhishekshah136]

Was desperately waiting for this video

[@mahendraagrawal4492]

Very good thought process...really liked it..u hvae considered all different scenarios..👍

[@abhishekshah136]

Is if I want to sell pnb futures and buy bank nifty futures how can I back test

[@naturebest69]

Super bro , tell the same in selling bro, if we are wrong also premium will support a bit

[@sbadriprasad]

Just wondering, instead of shorting the future n complecating. Why can't we buy far month PE with high delta.. still same result right?? Am I missing anything..

[@haribabuchepuri5345]

Nice info brother....instead of future can we hedge with options (CE seell) ?? when market is in consolidation even we get the profit with options? Plz clarify

[@pakshularahul5948]

When u sq off fut and market comes back to same position how come our profit be 80L ?? It is zero only noo??

[@krishnagoudnyamagoudar801]

Link provided for opening a/c in Firstock does not open up. Pl. Check.

[@hemilcivil3909]

Fantastic bro... Once can use synthetic futures using options.

[@jagathees9811]

Good Quality content. Keep it up guys

[@ddhanaammu]

Sir now we can use debt bond as collateral for future and option trade.

[@plantyrover6673]

Sir Instead of shorting future what if we square of our position and renter at lower levels?

[@rajatsingh233]

Sir bharti airtel ki 550 ce hold kiya h to kya krna chaye

[@rahulr8792]

MTm how you ll manage? Ok f goes to 16 to 18 huge mtm you have to pay ???

[@ravishetti87]

Hi I m also doing it with hedging by selling far out of the CE

[@pradeepsheoran]

What if we buy current month future and sell next month future......any profit of premium decay???

[@nikunjdeeep]

very helpful , keep up the good work.

[@rohitgadepalli]

Please explain about rollover position

[@abhishekj3499]

Awesome 👌

[@aspirentz4116]

Thankyou💛

[@sanskarchhatwani8200]

Sir when you roll over your short fut on nifty and you are in loss than what to do about margin you have to pay extra For example-you shorted nifty on 15,700 and after 3 months market goes to 16,000 than do you have to pay 300 points?

[@sumitdayal1775]

Instead of having a long and a short position you actually sell half of your long position n buy back after correction and meet the same results in both cases....pls correct me if im wrong

[@heatbtw2938]

This is a good question. The answer is that a strategic Equity Investor never sells his holdings until he feels he has reached his equilibrium. What if market goes up and you sold half your holdings? Then in that case if you use futures you are hedging that risk.

[@sanatsahu]

Sir, instead of selling a Future we can also short near OTM Call. Pl comment.

[@Travtotel]

You need 50% cash for covered call

[@akhileshrawat55]

to understand it more we can search cash and carry arbitrage

[@avinashvijaya2800]

Why dont u buy otm puts to hedge u r portfolio at higher levels.. If there is upside to markets they not harm u much.. In case of a crash they ll rapidly gain value..

[@animeshsingh9916]

By buying puts every month you are giving some premiums to the market. In the last case you see when market is consolidating still you are going to collect 40-80 points premium every month.

[@mvpass]

If the future long position is for a long term why not buy the far month futures and roll over once every 3 months instead of every month?

[@laxsri]

Can you please explain the last 1 min calculating nifty future value for the portfolio hedge.

[@sumukhbharati2714]

Just out of curiosity....Why did you choose futures and not options????

[@Travtotel]

Covered call needs 50% as cash.

[@mvpass]

Will you not be making a loss on the long positions in the equity futures on each roll over? You have considered the benefit you will be collecting from the nifty short but on every equity there will be a loss every month, right?

[@ranjancom2000]

Yes you r right the rollover cost will be higher in stock future then the nifty short. So there will no gain in Ziz Zag Move

[@ranjancom2000]

For one Year , For 10 Stock 6000 points will be used for rollover and we get only 600 points from nifty so we will be loss of 5400 points

[@subhashprabhudesai2295]

Great

[@akhileshrawat55]

you must have huge capital because if I have 10 lakh and I have invested full 10!how will I get more capital pledged capital is being used for strangle strategy

[@smallclips4164]

SEBI has made sure that you bring 30-40 lakh in market, and one single mistake like today will burn 20-30% capital and FII and DII earns. To be honest, you can't do trading with 10 lakh now. Thanks to SEBI and brokers like Zerodha.

[@jagadeeshkolli3143]

@@smallclips4164 Is that so? I am planning to invest 5lakh in a mutual fund and keep 5 lakh more as cash in trading account. Then pledge that MF to get a margin around 4.5L and then do option selling with 9.5L margin available in total. Can't I be able to do that now?

[@smallclips4164]

@@jagadeeshkolli3143 To be honest, you can trade with even 2 lakh in option selling. 10 lakh works when you are positional and directional writer. You can make 10-30k with that with less risk and 60-70kwith bigger risk. But if you are so good at identifie direction then you can achieve the same result in option buying under 2 lakh. There are few traders, take example of asit who earned 8 crore in single day in option buying. So basically he got the return of over 300% in one trade (2 days setup). So, yes things are possible if you can read market well, know position sizing and risk per trade. If you go with strangle and kind of a person who can't spend much time on screen then you can't expect much return Straddle requires capital for adjustment. You need to save 60% atleast for adjustment. So technically you will be trading with 3 lakh only. And you have to keep your eyes on the screen. If you lose the opportunity to enter at the right time, you are more likely to lose. Take an example of Mistesh, who mostly work on strangle because he can still make good money because he deals with very huge capital.

[@jagadeeshkolli3143]

@@smallclips4164 Hey, Thanks for taking time to explaining it. I have been an option buyer and am doing good with equity options. But as you already know that it's hard to scale it up. So what I wanted to is to keep one account where I invest money into assets, pledge them and trade with collateral margin, reinvest that money into the assets and repeat this process to use the compounding without taking a single rupee out of that account. Parallelly I have another account which I use for option buying to generate income for my purposes. I just want to know if I can do that when it comes to option selling as I am just 1 year experienced into selling and what to know whatabouts of these collaterals and stuff as I have never used collateral margin so far.

[@smallclips4164]

@@jagadeeshkolli3143 yes of course sir. Selling is far more easier than buying. The only thing you have to take care is to keep SL or hedge. On Twitter, all so called guru make it complex but it is actually very easy and no brainer. Go with weekly or monthly positional option strategy, this won't require you keep an eye all the time and you can still focus on buying. You have a good plan. 90% miss the most important point of trading is to grow slowly.

[@gds2227]

Brilliant,

[@abilashrajan4851]

Good one

[@vimalawasthi5611]

U r genius

[@thejasvivondivillu6302]

Hello Saketh and Team, I guess your prediction comes true. Can i contact you to implement this now for my portfolio? Thanks

[@findoc4481]

U implemented?

[@sanatsahu]

Very nice info Bro. Well can we short ITM CALL and long ITM PUT instead of SHORTING NIFTY Future.

[@sureshprajapati3157]

Thanks Saketh

[@ashishhiwale5417]

How to roll over future can you show in your video when you do?

[@russelr4652]

If you currently have a July Series future you have to sell it and buy a August Series future.....The loss is the difference between July and August future and brokerage to be paid for buying and selling the future.....This is how you do a rollover

[@thesan5579]

thank you

[@expirytrader5802]

Instead of having a portfolio can someone select the ETF's such as nifty bees ?

[@je4775]

yes

[@naturebest69]

Yes the same will apply

[@saimithranenterprises4756]

Hi bro good job. Initially u were very clear & crystal, however u confused a lot in later vedio, short and rollover word confused. I might be not understood properly.

[@MRHarshajeet]

Hello Sir, are you still holding Nifty future shorts, as market is at 16300!

[@optionables]

Yes

[@MRHarshajeet]

@@optionables Got it. Thank you!

[@ravibhardwaj4685]

Very nice and valuable information brother but please tell how much rollover cost for future contract.

[@optionables]

When you are buying you pay premium, which means as a seller you receive extra premium which will decay. So as a seller you will your only cost is the brokerage you pay

[@ranjancom2000]

@@optionables why you not hedging with put options. If 100% upside you will lose only 8%

[@santoshhiremath3332]

Why don't u buy December puts to hedge ?

[@optionables]

If the market is flat you lose money, if the market goes up you lose money, if the market comes down slightly you lose money

[@santoshhiremath3332]

@@optionables tysm But let it be as insurance Let money beome zero Still it's not good?

[@souravsaha008]

What is the futures rollover cost if I invest through futures? Since I will invest at the start of the month at a premium and sell at end of the month at almost spot value. How much the cost becomes in yearly terms? Also, does firstock allow bharatbond collateral to be used 100% for futures positions?

[@btechbiker6545]

benefit kya hua isse roi to kuch bhi nhi aa rha isse itne bde capital par

[@bibarishs3120]

Good content. Thank You!

[@palashjyotiborah9888]

Pretty good

[@ranjancom2000]

Why you r buying stocks, instated you can go for Index 2 to 1 Ratio Index itself. Buy 2 Nifty future and sell 1 nifty future

[@srinivenkat494]

@Saketh & Team - your nifty hedge is at a big loss. did you come out? Now try showing PNL for your stock future long against hedged FNO as of today so it will give us come clarity on your position now.

[@tarunagarwal6882]

Hey Saket tumhari video nhi ayi

[@ranjancom2000]

Still i don't understand how we can make 50 point every month. Can you show some real example

[@ReeLexSlee]

Another side you need to put your 50% capital. If market goes up than take profit or down side put your another 50% to your portfolio. Same . What's new in this??? Isko hedge nahi bolte, ye average karna hota hai This is averaging not hedging.😂😂😂

[@nirbhaysingh7715]

How u gain 50 Point.if u close 15850 July future contract then buy August 15900 future .u r loss 50 point

[@Harsha42069]

He is not buying futures ,, he is shorting futures in the end of the month futures will equal to spot price

[@anandtejwani3300]

First here

[@ranjancom2000]

Eveymonth we need pay 50 Rs more for rollover so you will end in loss only

[@bangarubuji9393]

👍👍👍❤️

[@divyanshsh]

🤔

[@OptionableGainers]

your doing good bro...👍Keep it up.Your Channel name is Optionable ,my channel name is Optionable Gainers

[@mangammavaranasi1562]

I didn't understand.how u will get 50 points constantly every month

[@optionables]

When you are buying you pay premium, which means as a seller you receive extra premium which will decay

[@subbu2705]

You are short on Nifty, so on every rollover you will loose 50 points ? By the time it starts correction one will lose considerable M2M isn't it ?

[@optionables]

When you are buying you pay premium, which means as a seller you receive extra premium which will decay

[@ravishetti87]

MARKET went upside so much from 16K.. but I'm sure u made from long futures

[@santoshsantu375]

The thing is 😂😂😂😂😂

[@srikanthsudershan8429]

This will not work for low capital ppl :(

[@yashparakh15]

My portfolio worth 2 lakhs 😐

[@pavanampolu5205]

Not Logical at all, better to buy December Puts instead. And Lol, here is some foresight about market levels😂. Which is ridiculous, if anyone understands gamblers fallacy, you will know how wrong this prediction might go.

[@92Rajendra]

Speak in hindi for better understanding

[@sonupandey5330]

सर हिंदी मे भी बोलिए plzzzzzz

[@feelrelax3704]

You will fail one day if you will share your live experience

[@sonupandey5330]

Sir plzzz talk to in hindi language 🙏📊

[@ghaziabad77]

We are day traders with short term view and do not have years view. So this video was not helpful. Pls concentrate on day trading strategies ...that is what every one likes in your channel.

[@russelr4652]

@@ghaziabad77 we should trade not only for the short term but also invest for the long term.....So the video is great ideas for all types of investing

[@rajatsingh233]

Sir bharti airtel ki 550 ce hold kiya h to kya krna chaye

[@rajatsingh233]

Sir bharti airtel ki 550 ce hold kiya h to kya krna chaye

[@rajatsingh233]

Sir bharti airtel ki 550 ce hold kiya h to kya krna chaye