Ordnance Survey Treasure Hunt: I'm Not Sher About This

Week 14, and the awesome Sherwood Forest where Robin Hood once took shelter. The quest for perfection continues.
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[@callHardmoor]

"Sherwood forest has been a forest for 5000 years... so was that the medieval time?" *sound of me slamming my head onto my desk* xD

[@arb261268]

lol,I was the same. Went to comment and you’d beat me to it.

[@spam_slayed1481]

5,000 years ago = Neolithic period aka prehistoric. Medieval was c1000 years ago. Two heads slamming desks!!

[@beingaware8542]

3 heads. Lol.

[@archivist17]

​@@beingaware8542I heard heads all across the country and beyond! 😂

[@beingaware8542]

@@archivist17 I think SciMan has to explain himself! When did he think Columbus was sailing around? When the Pyramids were being built?

[@Parth-mu6rf]

you put Clipstone old quarter. The answer was Clipstone Junction

[@nzbeeman]

came to say that as well

[@marflitts]

@@nzbeeman Me too

[@davidcarter5038]

To be fair, he did say "clipstone junction" earlier

[@gailforce]

i've no idea how he could have missed that!

[@MarkoVukovic0]

I shouted "Idiot!" at the screen when he said "Clipstone Junction" but typed "Quarter" 🤣

[@jeannettedunne9427]

Robin Hood was supposed to be around the time of Richard the Lionhearted who was king from 1189 - 1199 so it’s the 12th century

[@vinnyganzano1930]

Dan as someone who loves history you had me facepalming harder than the flerfs usually do, 5,000 years ago was the palaeolithic era and the stories of Robin Hood usually mention King Richard and King John so 12/13th century.

[@SciManDan]

Yeah history definitely not my strongest subject

[@Cyrathil]

@@SciManDan The biggest issue a lot of times is, especially when you're under pressure, you won't be thinking of the consequences of the timelines and how they intersect with each other. For instance, 5000 years ago, Egypt (~3100BCE) was a fairly new country. Western Rome collapses about 1600 years ago (~400CE).

[@cyberwomble7524]

Luckily, unlike the flerfs, he's open to correction and improving upon his weaknesses.

[@totoro123]

Shouting at the screen “not the footpaths, stick to the trails” 😂

[@ozemale6t928]

And the last turn is the third right, not the next right.

[@MT-it9qt]

I still think you and the book are all wrong. 'Tracks' only means railroad pathways,.. pft... English people.

[@beingaware8542]

Clipstone junction! Not the other clipstone. A junction is a meeting point.

[@maartenverdouw4688]

Exactly. And the stones are clipped.

[@marflitts]

How many people were shouting junction at the screen?

[@OurCognitiveSurplus]

“The forest is 5000 years ago, so that must be medieval” Oh dear oh dear

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

The question was asking when the stories of Robin Hood were *set*, not when they were first told.

[@michaelmcgovern1561]

The question was asking when the Forest grew.

[@Cyrathil]

@@michaelmcgovern1561 There's two. What was the period of the Robinhood tales set and when did the forest 'start'.

[@eefaaf]

Right, he was said to have stayed loyal to king Richard the Lionhearted who died in 1199. So, late 12th.

[@SlinkyAndTheEngineer]

Love tuning into this on a Sunday 🎉

[@SciManDan]

Thanks. It seems to have a bit of a cult following

[@alexhetherington8028]

​@@SciManDanThis Is better than Saturday sessions dan

[@slimpixie2404]

Right, here we go! Ready to shout "IT'S RIGHT UNDER YOUR CURSOR!"

[@pembrokeshiredan]

Question 4 is pretty ambiguous. I would have said medieval on grounds that that's when it was *designated* a forest. You got 7d wrong though - it's Clipstone Junction, not Clipstone Old Quarter

[@andrewnorth170]

Should be called "The Great British Stitch Up" ha ha

[@emmawheeler4624]

This book should be a doctor at this rate with all the stitches it keeps giving 😄

[@bobunyun]

On question 6, the stories may have become known in the 14th or 15th centuries, but they clearly talk about Richard the Lionheart and his brother John. Robin helps make sure Richard's ransom isn't stolen etc (Richard was captured and ransomed while returning from the Third Crusade). Richard died in 1199, John in 1216. As this is a history question rather than one based on the map, I'd argue you should be able to look this up. Also, as a football guy, you should know that the three lions were the symbol on Richard's shield. That's where that came from.

[@cenedra2143]

To be fair, not knowing your history terms wasn't the book stitching you up 😂

[@chloewright1]

Right!

[@acleedsunited]

Dan claiming the medieval era was 5000 years ago!!! Oh dear.

[@rubberduck3y6]

Yes, "oh dear oh dear" to borrow Dan's catch phrase about the flerfs.

[@chloewright1]

​@@rubberduck3y6 get it right! It's "dear oh dear" 🙄

[@GoErikTheRed]

It’s like the exact opposite of “the earth is 3000 years old”

[@alipuk]

We got 6/9 this week, but only because Ceres is completely cut off and can't be seen! I have to be THAT pedant and say you didn't get all the questions right for number 7. It's the junction rather than old quarter. I score you a C, must try harder 😂 See you next week, me and the mrs are really enjoying this series!

[@tanjameijer589]

This sounds like my inner monolog on a high school exam 😂 I love it x from the Netherlands

[@TheOwlman]

I heard a lot of heads slamming into desks when 5000 years was equated to medieval! Come one people, be prepared and have your cushions ready. I would have said Neolithic and been wrong anyway, so it sounds like the background material is misleading. Better luck next time.

[@logtothebase2]

Yelling "Villa real farm numbnuts" like a crazy person, its fine, im OK i'll apologise to my neighbour.

[@TheAmericanDane]

The ‘gumpth’ in the book didn’t stitch you up! 5000 yrs ago was NOT the medieval period 🙈 Have we found your Achilles heel… history?! The medieval period ran from the fall of the Roman Empire, roughly 500AD and lasted 1000yrs(ish).

[@SciManDan]

Yeah history is not my strong point

[@vinnyganzano1930]

​@@SciManDanHistory is wonderful Dan. My strong suit rather than physics, but stop blaming the book, especially today.

[@ScottyOrange]

It's okay to blame the book. A quiz about ordnance survey maps, the first question is general knowledge??? 🤨🧐

[@Nite-owl]

The book doesn't stitch you up at all, you rushing and not taking time to be sure of your answer stitches you up.

[@teresacarey3269]

Sometimes, yes. But not all of them. Some of them require information that is not on the map.

[@belperflyer7419]

We spent Christmas 2002 at Edwinstowe YHA and cycled round the forest bridleways and we also used to sail at a club on a reservoir (Kings Mill) that was on the Maun (near Mansfield - ie Maunsfield) now sadly disbanded because the local council refused to renew the lease (30p Lee had some influence there!). So I know the area but I suspect I wouldn't have fared any better than Dan.

[@macdonaldsadler]

You followed the boundaries not paths.

[@tubbymd3620]

Question 1: “What!?” “Okaayyy!”

[@nzbeeman]

for thr path one, it is the ***third right and keep going to a crossroad***

[@jeffknott1975]

Many moons ago I used to run a market stall at sherwood forest it's lovely there! And no I didn't wear the tights!

[@davidryansargent6731]

The urge and fight not to google the questions was real 😂.

[@johnmoffat3208]

Love to follow along with these with my coffee! Can you show us the first page with the reading so we can read it too, perhaps?

[@ozemale6t928]

4/9....missed Clipstone Junction

[@theemjay]

I live here and I've never seen this map! Interesting to see all the plantation names, etc.

[@nickjeffery536]

Even if you had been correct about Sherwood Forest being 5000 years old, the Medieval age was from around started around 500...

[@k29king1]

I grew up in Sherwood Forest!! Mobile home park in Kissimmee Florida 😂😂😂

[@bug_catcher]

Those direction questions give me a headache thinking of them. Glad I don't have to solve thrm!

[@CrankyQuokka]

Ya! Men in Tights time 😂

[@alipuk]

Only if they are tight tights 😂

[@spam_slayed1481]

You got no. 7 wrong - it was Clipstone Junction

[@pkt1213]

This was less geography and more trivia.

[@AL-YT-comment]

The Disney movie clearly has King John as the baddy….he signed the Magna Carta in 12:15, just before lunch. So Robin Hood stories would be before that….know your Disney, know your history! 😅

[@111oooo]

I have to jump in here and tell you how I know the Earth is flat and our moon is a lot closer than you say. First I live on a very long block, I walked the whole street and did not feel any curvature in the slightest. As for the moon I saw Jim Carrey lasso the moon from his balcony, had to be a lot closer than you say right?

[@nightnoodler812]

oops... Clipstone Junction is not Clipstone Old Quarter, Ouch that one hurt a bit.

[@scbtripwire]

You went right along the railway tracks instead of left.

[@user-yb6fe8xb1g]

Definately some poorly written questions in there. But I read the setting of the Robin Hood legends (12th century) as different from when the tales were recorded (15th Century). The only real mistake was missing Clipstone JUNCTION.

[@musick-is-my-life]

you got 7d wrong. there are multiple clipstones and youve put the wrong one

[@redbeard5939]

Ok, I'm going to leave the medieval period being 5,000 years ago alone; but, who is "officially" naming the origin era of Sherwood Forest as "prehistoric." Prehistoric is pretty broad considering it applies to all of time before humans developed writing. That is the real stich-up in the question. If we are talking about geologic time periods, then it would be from the current period, the Quaternary (which is part of the Cenezoic era). If we want to be a bit more specific, we could break it down to epochs which would be a more useful timescale since the 12,000 year dating matters. That would put the formation during the Pleistocene as opposed to the more recent Holocene or Anthropocene. Seriously though, "prehistory" is so broad as to be nearly meaningless as an "official" era.

[@JezzaH-15]

If you think your book stitched you up. My copy has the pages trimmed wrong. Ceres lodge has been cut off it. So I can’t even see it. ☹️

[@m8rshall]

Heyyy! My home ground!

[@nickc247]

I really don't think it's cheating if you pull up a map of Argentina to look at their districts.

[@CrowVWade]

Dan I respect you. I was a fellow believer. I discovered something else that realigned my beliefs. Would you be open to debate The Why Files? You both have compelling arguments

[@visitor55555]

"Junction" spelled "Old Quarter"? 😂 Keep trying dude but there was only one stitch-up there.

[@CrowVWade]

Scimandan clearly targets an bunch of r words you can’t say anymore. But The Why Files is a legit MENSA genius. I’d love to see that debate

[@ScottyOrange]

such great puzzles then?

[@davidryansargent6731]

Is there one of these for the U.S?

[@markusklyver6277]

Clipstone Junction tho

[@hunterfulghum7170]

ditto on banging head. Dannnnnnnnnn.....nooooooooooooooooo

[@macdonaldsadler]

Centre tree. And clipstone. Stand out.

[@JeremyHomicki]

You got 1 of question 7 incorrect. So going by your rules you only got 4 out of 5 correct.

[@Chronus-gw8en]

July 8th is coming up per 2 sun CC. I dub that day "flat earth debunked " day

[@heatshield]

I can’t tell you how much I don’t understand what’s going on right now.

[@MartinJames389]

This is very anti-Wakefieldist! Wakefield also claims Robin Hood. Since it's all made up, their claim is as strong as Nottinghamshire's. That's not to say it's entirely fictional, more a representative legend of the "masterless men", escapees from serfdom. The elevation of the main character in social origins is not remotely credible, but that's a ubiquitous feature of social reality being turned into mythology. The tales may date from the 15th century, but they are more likely to refer to the years of the 14th and 13th centuries, before the Black Death and the subsequent Great Rising of 1381. Ah, yes, the answers put me right. The yarns refer to the reign of King John, don't they? No, Dan, the Medieval period is reckoned to have begun about 1,500 years ago, varying from place to place in Europe. Its ending is much more diverse, with a variance of about 3-400 years, depending on economic factors. England, Scotland and France being first into the Early Modern period in the 16th century, but Russia not until the 19th. 5,000 years ago is either the late Neolithic or very early Bronze age. I go for the former. It's before the Beaker Culture emerged, but when the first phases of Stonehenge were built. Medieval people, on the other hand, developed the first firearms! Now I hear the answers "prehistoric" is a duff one. That's not a period at all, just a "don't know" generalisation.

[@HankD13]

Hm... you did say 5000 years, then said Medieval, more like 500 years? Stories started in the 15ht Cent - but set in the time of King Richard and John. Not sure you should be blaming the book 😁 Fun though - but really must stop shouting at my screen!

[@thearmouredpenguin7148]

Dan, Dan, Dan! You are NOT, as far as I know, american! In proper English Lieutenant is pronounced *_LEF-tenant_* not *_LOO-tenant._*

[@chritofgodfighter4210]

Sher?

[@SciManDan]

“Sher”wood Forest

[@MT-it9qt]

I still think you and the book are all wrong. 'Tracks' only means railroad pathways,.. pft... English people.

[@vanhelsing4602]

You're not sher?

[@donk1822]

15th century. Shame on you :).

[@thewakeup1]

Can u stop this series, map man dan

[@janthony721]

first

[@williamduvall22]

ask a flatearther this question. how can it be 24 hour sun in fairbanks alaska BUT sun goes over the horizon just a few hundred miles south? guess the sun just blinks off for them but stays on for us?