ORIANNA Season 13 Guide - How To LEARN and Carry With ORIANNA Step by Step

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[@soloralphlauren2731]

It’s almost like you just watched me int my lane into a sylas last night and thought “yeah I need to make this guy a guide asap”

[@Charms256]

Welp guys! I guess it’s time to drop our champ pools and one trick orianna now

[@tseeric6051]

Depends on your ranking, I love Orianna I played her for so many years ,she was weak before the buff. Ori won’t work at anywhere under Emerald (I tried to climb out low elo with Ori, it took me seasons but it didn’t work out, then I swapped to to Lissandra and Annie, my Elo like sky rocket to high plat, then I try Ori at high plat , it also worked so well for me). I know same player same champ, I just can’t beat bronze and silver game with her (maybe my style having issue ,idk) There is so much Champ who is more suitable for one trick if you are low Elo.

[@Charms256]

@@tseeric6051 she’s not a low elo pub stomper for sure, but a good orianna will absolutely smash a low elo game to pieces. Challenging to learn rewarding to master

[@jacobmorris3295]

just play garen if you're below master xD play your main champs that are meta after that :)

[@StarcraftSwarm]

I'm a Qiyana otp. Champ's dogshit, never been in a worse state before. TIme to relearn Orianna.

[@Mikolajek_R2d2]

​@@StarcraftSwarmmate its top 3 midlaners right now for sure

[@michaeldog123ful]

So glad to see another Orianna guide! I have been an ori one trick for many years now (1 mil + mastery) and the first guide helped me climb to where I am currently am! (D4) Excited to see this guide

[@danielchen4543]

I'm so excited for this!! Your Ori guide was how I first got a much broader view of the game as a whole, and I'm excited to l learn more from this guide as well :)

[@kingzak]

Wooow seeing this gave me so much nostalgia, the OG orianna guide in the pandemic was the first video i watched from you, thank you Curtis for the great content and knowledge you share with us!

[@ASmartIdiot]

Thanks so much for putting an insane amount of effort into these guides ❤

[@Ayagii]

As someone, who just picked up Ori in the past 1-2 weeks (actually didnt even know she was meta), thank you for your guide. Looking forward to seeing more content from you and the BBC

[@reinierwasscher9469]

Great guide as always! I would love to see more of these refreshing guides, I personally would LOVE Taliyah.

[@420kyles]

Yesss I was hoping you’d update her guide, thanks again for all the hard work and dedication coach!!

[@akatsukiparm343]

I started playing the game 9 months ago, my first two champions were Ziggs and Heimerdinger... but the first time i saw Orianna it was like love at first sight... of course i was playing just normals and against other new people. But the first game with her i went like 17-1-18 or something like that. So i looked for some guide video... And i found this and it was so helpful for me. I stopped playing for 2 months but now that i'm playing again i decide to watch this video for second time. Ofc the meta has changed, it's another season, but in this video you explain so well the spirit of my beloved champ. The best part is that she's just not a bully laner, but a team fight goddess. Thank you :D

[@CoachMysterias]

Thats some INSANE timing, HUGE guide 🙌🏼

[@brunolanglais662]

Sick. Orianna is my main for 5+ years now and I learnt a lot from you

[@shayanburki6413]

I think an absolutely essential R use case (esp low elo) is when an enemy is autoing your tower and you use Q R W to simultaneously clear the wave, drag them into tower and slow them. Absolutely essential for finding solo kills and getting flashes. I think its a worth inclusion in your guide.

[@CoachCurtis]

Great point, I don't see this as much in my games due to people respecting it so I didn't have a clip for it. But definitely replicable for the lower elo brackets

[@marcustulliuscicero4386]

happens in higher elos too. kzbin.infoujxvWiq3VHg this is EUW gm+

[@lozzie6779]

Tysm for this, I don't think you know how much your videos help the community, ty ty ty Curtis

[@nikosgiorgopoulos6445]

Perfect timing for the guide ,i recently picked up ori at diamond 1,i was insecure of blinding it cause of enemy otps,but im pretty sure this guide will do the trick!

[@wafs1393]

Bro covered my one trick and my second most played champ in 4 months: syndra and ori. Goat

[@Davetac2]

Another amazing guide Curtis! Thank you so much.

[@fool9]

I love this champ and glad to see a guide up.

[@hunk1231RE]

ive wanted to pick up ori for the longest time, thank you so much for this!

[@josephfreimond2330]

This is crazy, I started playing her today literally and watched your old guide. I wished you would make a new one and on the very same day you deliver! Great work as always, Thank you Curtis

[@Obsiidian]

Same lmao Played my first 3 games today

[@CrovvVODS]

"IT'S FINALLY HERE! 😍" Very nice curtis looking forward to it

[@ichiban8209]

LoL literally yesterday i went for your older Orianna video and now you uploaded newer verstion :D cheers.

[@anniekujo]

No way, thanks for updating the Orianna guide. I wished for this for a while

[@sanic4692]

Thank you for being so dedicated in educating us on how to play, we highly appreciate your effort! Are you planning on doing remakes of guides like this one for other champs? It would be amazing to see a new Vlad video!

[@timN-1m]

Oh my god, i just started watching your old Orianna guide some hours ago

[@Freakattaker]

Been looking to pick up someone who could apply pressure in lane at Mid since my pool was Malz/Veig. Glad to see this guide just as I tried Ori and really liked her.

[@Haasjuh321]

Did you watch El Clásico yesterday or something? You kept going on about it haha ;) Love the guide man, back from my League break and already playing Syndra after watching your guide, this will be a nice secondary pick for me

[@specialoneekko3670]

Insane vod i was wating for this to start my orianna journy

[@realraccoonhours5687]

I think an underrated tip for the ball control and knowing the range is the indicator itself. It changes color depending on how far a way you are. Its really helpful when learning orianna

[@LeagueBettingGuru]

Coach Curtis is my goat.

[@iurifrazao454]

The gathering storm vs scorch is something that always makes me wonder. Everyone recomends scorch, the math is sound, the reasoning is sound, yet it consistently has worse WR than scorch across multiple patches and elos, and I cant understand why lmao.

[@ampongjohnricardo2167]

Yay it's finally here! 🎉

[@roszeLoL]

amazing video, thank you!

[@imfixx]

Hey coach, great video i love ur vids, I would love to see an updated Fizz guide! I swear the champ hasnt been getting much attention recently unfortunately.

[@markusminny9472]

thank you very much for this guide, i recently started vsing plat and emeralds as adc ... but always loved ori mid. im finding that my mid is alot stronger than my adc so i made the switch. i will use this to dominate my lanes thanks alot xD

[@GabrielRodrigues-ih5br]

hey curtis, another amazing guide. I know this is some weird question, but do you have any recommendations for coaches of other lanes?

[@Yggdrasil720]

Soo good guide thx for your guide ! Maybe one day you will do akshan ? 🎉

[@NLnaga]

is there any chance u can do a whole video focused on the syndra matchup. it is a matchup i struggle with so incredibly much and it is so common.

[@tristan6773]

season 14 guide early please? I think new items all sound good on ori

[@Evvins]

Let's go, ori time!

[@Enimal_]

i was about to give up on midlane and swap to jgl and here comes the hero

[@Jazernocsuh]

Does Precision secondary taking Presence of Mind not just make the most sense for that lane bully mentality?

[@sarinasherman1717]

This was awesome! Hoping one day you'll make n in-depth a Lissandra or Vex guide :)

[@CoachCurtis]

I have a Vex guide on my channel thats a little old but still has the core concepts that apply today

[@Courtesyyy]

Coming from your Old guide, i always had this question in mind Will she always be good in No matter meta or does meta rule still, apply, starting to get some Nice results in flex! I was thinking of using her on the next season as well!

[@Cube__TV]

ok I have finished the video, great guide. 1. reference points section was very useful for me. do you think perhaps focusing on reference points like LC without flashing or dying can possibly trap people into the loser's game? missing opportunities to abuse opponents mistakes in low elo because of a focus on those references? 2. seeing different pros unique takes on the same match up was very cool and helpful. I think this supports your "express yourself on the Rift" motif you've used in the past. even at the highest level these players are not doing some solved gameplay pattern. 3. one painful experience with the small wins Mayweather style is you can build towards a small win for 4 minutes and have it all erased because the enemy support or jungle bails out your laner. it is what it is but it's very frustrating in game to build towards an advantage for a long long time and have it erased seemingly out of your control. people should be prepared for that when using this strat.

[@CoachCurtis]

No.3 is a great point, that can be the harsh reality of playing a small wins champ. BUT the fact that you brought the jungler to your lane can be viewed as a net positive regardless because now he's shown on the map and not impacting sides

[@HassanKhan-wq3tk]

can we get an updated viktor guide?

[@ryuu4435]

Which keybinds do you use for selfcast? I find it very diffcult to find something that feels good

[@georgeromain2274]

what build would you recommend for season 14 ?

[@louisjedinight3363]

I don't even play mid, even less orianna anymore, but I just like these guides so much=)

[@Lancelot2000Lps]

Curtis what do you think about Rod of Ages + tear into Seraph Emprace? I played in the past and it was funny in the mid game because i was so tanky.

[@Nicknater]

Hi Curtis, what's your opinion on future's market? I love using it because it gives me an unexpected item advantage allowing me to snowball, but I never see it recommended, any idea why?

[@maddeken]

Yessss i have been practicing ori for the last week! Still go back to fish when i feel like it but im having fun playin with balls. Xd

[@MeHasNoHands]

What about getting futures market and starting mana crystal refill pot against other longer ranged control mages. Getting the lost chapter and tping back to lane super early will let you bully and constantly have the push advantage on yhe enemy letting you have prio and bassically beating them through war of attrition. I think ls had a similar video on this concept.

[@ethankp2217]

Hey! I am an emerald player who is trying to learn Ori. Where I find I struggle is when I’m into an assassin and my adc wants to swap mid. I find I am forced onto side and end up dying to them and my lead is completely gone. How to deal with this?

[@kal8586]

I really like arcane comet against high range low mobility champs like xerath or even azir where im not gonna be proccing aery off cooldown.

[@djwnegima]

"you have to be aware of your ballz location" indeed *nodes*

[@danielaaaaaaaaa]

Hi hi! Idk if anyone asked this already, but I've been seeing a lot of comet ori, where would this make sense and what do u guys think abt it vs aery/phase ?

[@haroldpham6693]

Baller video.

[@danielleonardosantos7089]

Great video bro. I have a question, I always try to position myself behind minions to cover myself, but for example, against champs like Quinn and Yone, one ability from them is enough to get close to me and get my hp in half, that really frustrates me because it's almost impossible to farm with that low hp. I would like to know what you can tell me about positioniing more specifically, thank you very much.

[@ImKioto97]

If you're playing a ranged chap into Yone is fairly easy to avoid his damage. Position to the side of the wave making him choose between you or the wave and respect his Q3. Whenever he has it, move away to his max range and then go back to pressure whenever it runs out. If he has Q3+E is the same thing, only you have to back away even further. It's basically a dance. You pressure him whenever his Q3 and/or E are down and you respect him when he has them available. If he wastes all of his abilities on the wave or misses on you you can basically run him down and chunk him or kill him

[@SeloTSM]

I love Ori a lot for several seasons despite of having

[@3d_waffle698]

Amazing videos! Just had one question, for an example you are beating your opponent out of lane but not killing them and you get a good base off. Should you look towards full buying full boots or if you are ahead is it better just to rush ludens? Also what about when losing lane should I be looking for full boots or just saving for item?

[@CoachCurtis]

Well, sorcs is more upfront damage then LC, BUT LC gives you more AH and mana, so if you are looking to really push the lane pace, sorcs is best, If you are looking to slowly get control LC is better

[@ch1lv3ryttv17]

I am still a new orianna but my friend is a good jungler and adc so i play mid and support orianna maxing e, i feel like she is a great enabler and i want to flesh out that playstyle more any tips

[@erikpotthast9708]

Hey Coach, I am a Master/Grandmaster EUW Midlane main who mostly plays Orianna. Due to the recent meta of AD midlaners, I have really been struggling to play. Since this video is a little older, you did not cover matchups such as Tristana, Corki, Ezreal, or Lucian. What do you recommend when playing into these champions? It's impossible to play aggressively because you just get stat-checked, and keeping the wave in a conservative position is also hard due to the insane waveclear of these AD champions. I feel like Orianna just always permanently loses prio in these matchups, and it's hard to play the midgame due to being stuck in the sidelane. If you try to play for neutral objectives, the enemy AD mid just takes T1 and T2 towers for free. Any thoughts on this? Thank you very much!

[@favianrahman4108]

Where is the below platinum ori guide link? I don’t see it in the description like you mentioned

[@CoachCurtis]

It's within the mid lane school : midlaneacademy.com/mid-lane-school/

[@Soul-ti5yb]

Hey curtis! I have a question about the builds. I'm currently spamming alot of Ludens into seraphs. Except when i get a 1250g back i'll tend to buy needlessly large rod first and then ill see if i can get deathcap 2nd if i get another good 1250g back. Is that a good idea or is it still better to go the ludens seraphs build?

[@CoachCurtis]

IT really depends on how important the durability is for you in this game. If you don't need the shielding/durability then for sure

[@Cube__TV]

just in time. I'm 30 games into my Ori arc

[@AsirIset]

Why is level 7 important over lvl 6?

[@gustavovalenzuela354]

NICE!

[@humbertvongikkingen8752]

Great guide, thank you so much for your great in depth content! I have two questions: - Your thoughts on ROA and Crown? The latter one I see quite regularly in pro play. - 3 points in W is because the base damage increase ist very efficient until lvl 3 and you can guarantee the damage better than with Q?

[@jasonchangdalekrule]

You're probably thinking of Faker picking crown into Vi+Syndra. Vi+Syndra will literally 100-0 orianna if Vi gets R off, because syndra's optimized full combo post first item deals orianna's entire healthbar, and Vi R guarantees it.

[@CoachCurtis]

Never build ROA, not worth it, doesn't give any AH and too slow. Crown is good situationally vs HEAVY dive when you simply cannot survive with another mythic. I prefer Crown over ROA due to it giving Haste

[@ad1v9]

Can i play orianna adc?

[@XIKaMuIX]

Watching this while im in loading screen.

[@pkjohnson7477]

Hi Curtis, in your BBC podcast this week you mentioned "yesterday on my stream" but I notice you have no vods on your twitch channel. I was wondering where I can catch these streams

[@CoachCurtis]

I'm actually going to start streaming soon, stay tuned

[@pkjohnson7477]

@@CoachCurtis HELL YES ! THIS IS INCREDIBLE NEWS

[@arturorg0]

This video is gonna be very helpful as I was looking for another champion to main. I think Orianna's gonna be a good choice. Will edit this comment when I get to m7 👌🏻😂 So I was Emerald II this morning, been playing her in ranked with some friends and I got to Diamond IV noice, I hope I can reach Diamond II or I this season! (Watched almost all guide)

[@rimouks]

Zed next bro!!

[@diiony3072]

OMG ORIANNA NICE

[@kurtismeldrum9845]

Hey man, is it common to have low DPS numbers as Oriana, or should you generally be in the middle of the pack? I find it hard to put out DPS, and also playing the game like a survival horror game at the same time.

[@CoachCurtis]

Don't worry too much about DPS numbers, not an overly great metric

[@giogonzalez499]

Hi Curits, thanks for the update!!! what are your thoughts about ROA now a days? PD: Im waiting for the Lissandra guide! ;)

[@CoachCurtis]

ROA for Orianna is not worth it. Gives no haste, and ori really enjoys LC. Also ontop of that if you need durability, just go for the seraphs second item

[@giogonzalez499]

@@CoachCurtis thank you man! Big hugh!

[@GoldenfriendQ]

Hey Curtis. On Ori I always fall into the trap of over trading on D.Shield + Second Wind users, which you mentioned in this guide. If I focus on farming with Ori in these matchups, will I generally be able to get priority? These are generally short range melee assassins I struggle against, like Akali and Yasuo. Thanks for the video!

[@CoachCurtis]

In the early game not really no. If you verse an Akali with fleet+dorans shield they CAN shove you in if they want to. Yasuo will also always have that early wave control. Same for many other of these matchups e.g. Tryn etc. You'll usually just try to have wave on your side and farm up until those key spikes

[@GoldenfriendQ]

@@CoachCurtis That makes a lot of sense. Then I assume you just prioritize keeping yourself alive and topped up on farm, responding to movement where you can.

[@CoachCurtis]

Spot on!@@GoldenfriendQ

[@praetorxak5361]

Spooky day for a Robot Girl Guide

[@Speedb0at]

anivia guide when

[@stickystevie9047]

DO RYZE!! He's in such a lovely spot right now, and there's TONS of reasons to play him right now with the state of the game.

[@Nastiic]

Im Gold, still think its worth for Gold Players to watch this Video, really dont understand why you said that in the beginning, its a great guide for me as well!

[@zimne5212]

Very supprised to hear you say when to max q and when w. Q is more efficient dmg/mana. So if you can get it off reliably, it is simply better. Against xerath, Syndra and neeko where you are typically can’t get off multiple q’s in a row you need bigger hits so max W. I don’t understand your reasoning to do the opposite.

[@glaiydan]

29:48 couldn't you have pulled her into ekko w? :DD

[@CoachCurtis]

TRUE! Orianna genius David

[@tristan6773]

half of the junglers in plat would let me die 1v1 to bel beth worth to take her raptor camps tho

[@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm]

My favorite is putting ball on Rengars, having them jump attack, and run away as the Ult sombreros nothing. And for that reason, I don’t trust the delivery service.

[@kuroblade6129]

and another day where i will keep asking, curtis where is my veigar and aurelion sol guide :(

[@CoachCurtis]

They are in the MLS program NOT on YT

[@wikingzkurwabrodaitoporem1382]

1:10:08 yasuo is common in every elo bracket

[@robinvanschaijk3154]

how much does it cost me for you to review a game with me? im a Diamond midlane main with quite a big champion pool. but ive always had the most succes on orianna. yet i cant climb past D1. im on EUW and my name is RR Skycold in case u want to check it. (currently im only D3 but ill get back) ive peaked D1 in 2 seasons but cant get to masters just yet. How much does it cost to review a game with me? i realllly wanna get to my goal someday and i feel like i can get there. just need a little help

[@CoachCurtis]

$30US , check the site in the description

[@Woah_Dizzy]

I’ve never heard anyone say “el Classico” so much lol is this a thing

[@stanaklol]

This 23:00 ori vs jayce matchup example is a bit weird to use imo when the jayce is clearly terrible at the champion and matchup. He's literally E'ing first at max range, then using Q. Q+E is a gold-level combo that EVERY jayce player should be able to do.

[@CoachCurtis]

True he was not great at the champ, it still plays out the same way regardless though

[@stanaklol]

@@CoachCurtis overall great video though!

[@derrodney6448]

CASSIO EASY MATCH UP IS CAP

[@place4sam]

malphite mid destroys orianna

[@marcustulliuscicero4386]

the build and rune is so suboptimal its funny. no way you recommend people to build tear on ori, phase rush + scorch. not talking about crown... hahaha

[@alexanders725]

Can you explain why tear is bad on ori? And he recommended aery + scorch not phase rush + scorch. I do agree on neglecting crown… would you take resolve secondary with a crown build (akali/talon etc) or is it not needed?

[@marcustulliuscicero4386]

@@alexanders7251) w is way too cheap 2) it’s too expensive 3) there’s other defense that does a better job 4) having to buy a tear slows u down too much