ORM Hogan 86 unboxing and review

[@MrNWA4Life]

Hogan actually had two of these. The first debuted, the earliest date I can find is October 13, 1985 and had flower tooling around the perimeter of the strap. Probably has WWF letters stamped where logo plates later went, but i don't know how. It had no tip as Reggie didn't start putting tips on belts until 1986. Supposedly Hogan gave it to Bubba The Love Sponge's kid. The second which has the seashell tooling and the tip with the added piece debuted at Wrestlemania 3

[@dougmeyers]

I think it’s actually the opposite. I think the first one had no tip and seashell tooling and the second one have the tip and the flower tooling. At hogans store. He has the one with no tip on display and it has the seashell tooling

[@MrNWA4Life]

@dougmeyers Are you that stupid, or are you just being wiseass? Almost every belt Reggie Parks made between 1983-mid 1986 had flower tooling. The only exceptions were the smaller Florida/Southern style belts that had basket weave tooling. Hogan's "1985" belt had flower tooling. The 86-88 belts, the first one debuted about October 13, 1985, and had flower tooling and no tip. When Reggie started putting tips on belts in mid 1986, the WWF called wanting one. They just asked him to send one and they'd put it on themselves. That didn't work too well because Hogan swung it around in the ring, and the tip flew off. The second one debuted at WrestleMania 3. Obviously the tip came off at some point. The tips Reggie and Dave Millican use are different from the tips you can get from Figures Inc. Figures Inc tips are 2 pieces and screw together. Dave and Reggie's tips are one piece and just glued on. As far as tooling, Reggie pretty much exclusively used seashell tooling from August 1986 until the rest of his life.

[@martinriggs1749]

Finally a belt video that shows the temperament of the leather. Thank you.

[@Itsmoef]

love these vids man, they're long enough and it addresses everything u need to know keep it up my friend 👍👍

[@johnjon246]

Thanks man!

[@peterbackes5381]

Beautiful belt. How long is the strap and dimensions of the main plate ? it looks small comparing to what is seen on TV since Hulk Hogan is a tall man. Sometimes the replica belts are not ring accurate, however you did a great review. 👍

[@johnjon246]

Thanks buddy. I'll have to measure it to be sure.

[@MrNWA4Life]

My favorite WWF World belt. As soon as I get my credit cards paid off I'm gonna look to order a bunch from ORM. I like his work.

[@MrNWA4Life]

American made by Reggie Parks. That's funny because Reggie's Canadian. Born in Edmonton, Alberta.

[@MrNWA4Life]

One thing that's incorrect and you pointed it out, the original didn't have a WWF logo tooled in where logo plates would later go. The original had the letters WWF stamped.

[@chaddawson7652]

Your tag belt I think has the best etching of any belt you have ever owned IMHO. Please let me know if you agree.

[@johnjon246]

Hells yes it does. The etching stands out above all my belts

[@chaddawson7652]

Do you think it’s the tag design that makes it so great or is CLASSIC shields just that good. Thx

[@loydhenderson5695]

Good video! Nice belt! I remember seeing him with this belt on tv.

[@bohacekml]

Your CS belt is much better in quality.

[@johnjon246]

Yes, it most certainly was

[@kevinkacatin3958]

Glad to see this one arrive in solid condition!

[@STEPHENHAMMER]

Still looks good to me. Remember.. 86=different tooling, no belt tip. 87=clamshell tooling with a belt tip.

[@johnjon246]

Thanks man. Yeah its a great looking belt. What about the wwf logo stamping? Was that on any version of the beltm

[@insaneshanesworld9600]

@@johnjon246 The WWF logo stamping was on that version of the belt, which they call the 87 The 86 had vertical WWF letter stamping

[@erictate5135]

is that a 4mm belt

[@johnjon246]

Yes I believe so

[@erictate5135]

@@johnjon246 is a 4mm lot better then a 2mm

[@johnjon246]

@@erictate5135 it's 2 x better I'd say

[@chaddawson7652]

Hey John, do you believe that CS HD belts in 2021 are on par with MidWest, I know they don’t hold the same value, but most people want the quality to be the same. How do you feel MidWest belts stack up to CS Hd plates. I feel that a lot of collectors, no matter how perfect a CS belts have become, they just dismiss it as a bootleg.

[@johnjon246]

At this point there are no major differences between a CS made belt or a Midwest. CS has upped their game in the last few years and is just as good as any American belt maker for a fraction of the cost. Yeah, people will dismiss any belt that was made overseas as a bootleg, but so what. As long as you have the belt of your dreams, who gives a shit what anyone else has to say.

[@chaddawson7652]

What’s your take on the new CS crumrine Vs the Fandu crumrine. When I grew up the Crumrine might as well of been on the Spanish network, because the belt was with that “OTHER” promotion that is not nearly as good as WWF, I only paid attention to the crumrine when Flair showed up with the belt. Let me know about new Fandu luxe. vs Ultimate crumrine, I might have to send it to u for a review.. ps: 3k is a lot for a belt I did not grow up watching. We are both obviously the same age.

[@johnjon246]

@@chaddawson7652 I'll be honest, I'm not a Crumrine connoisseur but I can definitely tell the difference between the fandu Luxe vs the crumrine though. (I don't have the luxe if that's what you thought) I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one if I won it in a raffle though. The design and size look much improved, but the textured part of the Luxe version looks more like a nugget texture rather than little indented dots like a Crumrine. The textured part also looks like it was painted silver instead of plated silver. The shine of the dual plating looks just like my old fandue BG that I painted with silver paint to look dual plated.

[@kevinparks7310]

Are you selling this belt ,if not ,where can I get one of this belt?

[@johnjon246]

ORM belts or Classic Shields. Both make great versions. Google them

[@johnjon246]

Sorry, I already traded this belt for a Smoking skull belt. But the smoking skull is available to buy!

[@kevinparks7310]

@@johnjon246 ,so you still got the WWF wing eagle belt that you showed on here for $1,450???

[@kevinparks7310]

@@johnjon246 ,and the Hogan 86 belt?

[@johnjon246]

I already told you I got rid of the hogan 86

[@stevenswan5067]

Technically Savage and Orndorf wore the belt too. Looked good on both of those legends. Beautiful belt would definitely invest in a HD version. Your winged eagle HD is fire. Congrats.

[@johnjon246]

That's why I said that hogan was the only one who wore it as a champion. I will probably go HD on this belt eventually.

[@chaddawson7652]

John, would you ever buy an SD belt again or would you only go with HD from here on out..

[@johnjon246]

I don't mind SD. Matter or fact, Classic shields just showed me their non HD hogan 86 plates and I must say...the lettering in the side plates and those small circle designs are much crisper than mine

[@jimc.4917]

Great video! This belt has always been my favorite. I've never looked into buying one; can you tell me what a belt like this one would cost? I would think an original like you described with HD etching would be very expensive. Thanks for any into.

[@edge7799]

This is the most accurate style like the real versions.2mm plates are like the real ones standard or HD.

[@edge7799]

The best belt heavy weight after the winged eagle.

[@CBannon89]

How long did it take to be made and sent? I paid for a "ready to ship" belt in March, they accidently "sold it and sent it" to someone else and said they had plates etched that they could finish and send me in a couple of months and now I can't get a straight update

[@johnjon246]

The only reason I bought this was because it was in stock. It took 5 days to arrive from Pakistan.